Round One Mukhi Rudraksha - CHALLANGED!!!

February 19, 2006

Dear Siddharth,

Namaste!!! Welcome to Sacred Objects. Your article below is the best I ever read

about

Rudraksha. Thanks for taking time to write and share it.

Best rgds,

Richard

sacred-objects, "sidhmis" <sidhmis wrote:

>

> Hi Friends,

> I am Siddharth Mishra. I have recently joined this group as I found

> some interesting discussion going on about Ek Mukhi ( 1 MUKHI)

> Rudraksha. At the outset I would like to submit that I am into

> business of Rudraksha since 5 years and I am teaching Rudraksha

> Therapy at Hydrabad. I have visited Nepal and I know all the Nepali

> Suppliers and their credentials.

> I had visited the link which was sent by one of the group member

> about one site claiming that they have 1 mukhi Rudraksha. First of

> all let us be very clear that any Rudraksha will have seeds inside

> which are actual the source of energy of a bead. It is a proven fact

> that a 5 mukhi bead if cut laterally will have 5 seeds inside it and

> same goes for any other mukhi bead. A 10 Mukhi will definite have 10

> seeds inside. Now the bead which is shown in the site, Friends

> believe me this is actually a 4 mukhi Rudraksha whose mukhs have not

> formed completely. If you see this bead clearly you will see that it

> has four impressions like a 4 Mukhi bead and which actually could

> have converted to 4 mukhs of the bead if formed properly. This is a

> genuine 4 mukhi rudraksha but definitely not 1 Mukhi Rudraksha as

> claimed by the site. Tomorrow I will try to post the cut section of

> a similar bead which does not have even 1 line. I have now learnt

> that this bead is called as Nirakar bead. There is no such name

> mentioned in our ancient text. Infact the description of beads after

> 14 mukhi is only mentioned in katiyani puran, otherwise there is no

> mention of any properties or description available from 15 Mukhi

> onwards in any of the text.

> Yes I agree that a javanese 1 mukhi has a clear 1 line on the bead

> and when it is cut laterally then only one seed is seen. A two mukhi

> javanese bead similarly have two seeds inside. I feel javanese one

> mukhi is more authentic than even Indian Kaju shaped 1 mukhi. And

> have you noticed the shape of 1 mukhi Javanese bead it is just like

> a flattened and tappered bead.

> I want to further submit that botanically 1 mukhi round bead can

> never exist. Simple logic behind this is thatif we srr a 6 mukhi or

> five mukhi they will be round beads to the perfection, if we see a 4

> mukhi bead , we will find it a bit squarish shaped, if we see a

> three mukhi we find it a bit triangular shaped, if we see a 2 mukhi

> bead we find it a bit more flat, so in nut shell as the mukhs of the

> bead reduces the bead becomes more and more tapered. Why ever we

> have not found a perfect shaped 2 mukhi round bead, they will always

> be flattened beads whether they are from Nepal, or India or

> Indonesia. Similarly a 1 mukhi can never be round it will definitely

> be a Kaju shaped or a haly moon shaped bead. Similarly if we go to

> higher mukhis like 12 or 13 or 17 and above we will find them more

> oval , I mean they will have more length and less breadth.

> Now I challange the site that let it cut the bead laterally and if

> it does not have 4 seeds I will pay the whole amount to the site

> otherwise this site will promise to not to misguide the devotees any

> more and dupe people on the name being a reputed site. A reputed

> site cannot stoop to such low levels for petty monetary gains. My

> suggestion is that it should be immediately removed from the site.

> And Devotees pl just do not close your eyes because one particular

> site has served you well once with the good beads. We should be very

> very rational in our thinking. We should get the best bead for the

> amount we are spending. Few devotees show their beads to me and say

> that it is 20 years old bead and has been given by one Sadhu or

> renowned Baba especially 1 mukhi Rudraksha and beleive me friends

> they are all fake ones. Even old Babas I dont know from where they

> could manage the fake 1 muhkis or Rudrakshas with artificially

> carved Trishuls etc. The age of the Rudraksha can not make it a

> genuine bead. Similarly now also the site is basically befooling the

> devotees. So beware Freinds.

> Aum Namah Shivaye

> Siddharth Mishra

>

sacred-objects, Ole Alstrup <alstrup@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Really?! This is very odd to read. So what happened? I ordered 4

> malas from Nepa Rudraksha and always received first class beads and

> treatment. In 2003 I obtained a siddha mala with stunning collector

> beads at much less price than Rudra Centre could offer. I did not

> even order collector beads, as this was before the the term was

> coined on the internet. We have also purchased from RC twice and

> their selection of beads is great, except for one incident where my

> wife received a 10 mukhi collector bead and it was quite smaller

> than advertised. RC's artisanship is very good, I dont know if any

> other retailer offer better quality for this at comparable prices.

> >

> > Having said this, I am happy that this sort of information can

> be exchanged, but ubnfortunately I am also aware that negative

> stories can easily be fabricated on forums in the name of promoting

> business....

> >

> > ~ Ole

> >

> > deven chopra <chopradeven81@> wrote:

> > i ordered few months ago from nepa rudraksh a and that guy

> sent me severly cracked beads

> >

> > even the secons time they sent me cracked beads

> >

> > Since then i have only ordered from rudra center

> >

> > DEVEN

> >

> > alstrup <alstrup@> wrote:

> > Dear Richard and Friends,

> >

> > I was just visiting the site of Nepa Rudraksha, considered to be

> one

> > of the most authentic and reliable wholesellers of the Nepali

> > Rudraksha. I believe they supply the majority of the large Indian

> > retailers. They have just added the STUNNING DISCOVERY, the first

> in

> > their 40 years of doing business, of GENUINE ROUND ONE MUKHI AND

> > NIRAKAR NEPALI RUDRAKSHA, WOW, THIS IS TRULY INCREDIBLE!!!

> >

> > I believe we can be sure these beads are the real thing, Nepa

> > Rudraksha have an impeccable reputation and would definitely not

> risk

> > to jeopardize this by offering fake beads.

> >

> > Go to http://www.nepalirudraksha.com/ to take Darshan of these most

> > rare Rudraksha in existence. I have contacted Mukunda Khatiwada

> for

> > more information and will update as soon as I learn more.

> >

> > ~ Ole

> >

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> time.

> >

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>

February 20, 2006

Thanks for sharing such useful information . I totally agree that since the

bead tapers and flattens down as the mukhis are reduced , a round 1 mukhi is

botanically never possible . Indeed 2 mukhi is always flat, whether from

Nepal or Indonesia or India , and thus a 1 mukhi would always be more flat or

half moon shape , which holds true when we see 1 mukhi from India or Java . So

1 mukhi Nepal, if ever found would be half moon only . What an interesting

discovery !!!

Juliane

sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown II" <rsbj66

wrote:>> Dear Siddharth,> > Namaste!!! Welcome to Sacred Objects. Your article

below is the best I ever read about > Rudraksha. Thanks for taking time to

write and share it. > > Best rgds,> Richard> > --- In

sacred-objects, "sidhmis" sidhmis@ wrote:> >> > Hi Friends,> >

I am Siddharth Mishra. I have recently joined this group as I found > > some

interesting discussion going on about Ek Mukhi ( 1 MUKHI) > > Rudraksha. At the

outset I would like to submit that I am into > > business of Rudraksha since 5

years and I am teaching Rudraksha > > Therapy at Hydrabad. I have visited Nepal

and I know all the Nepali > > Suppliers and their credentials.> > I had visited

the link which was sent by one of the group member > > about one site claiming

that they have 1 mukhi Rudraksha. First of > > all let us be very clear that

any Rudraksha will have seeds inside > > which are actual the source of energy

of a bead. It is a proven fact > > that a 5 mukhi bead if cut laterally will

have 5 seeds inside it and > > same goes for any other mukhi bead. A 10 Mukhi

will definite have 10 > > seeds inside. Now the bead which is shown in the

site, Friends > > believe me this is actually a 4 mukhi Rudraksha whose mukhs

have not > > formed completely. If you see this bead clearly you will see that

it > > has four impressions like a 4 Mukhi bead and which actually could > >

have converted to 4 mukhs of the bead if formed properly. This is a > > genuine

4 mukhi rudraksha but definitely not 1 Mukhi Rudraksha as > > claimed by the

site. Tomorrow I will try to post the cut section of > > a similar bead which

does not have even 1 line. I have now learnt > > that this bead is called as

Nirakar bead. There is no such name > > mentioned in our ancient text. Infact

the description of beads after > > 14 mukhi is only mentioned in katiyani

puran, otherwise there is no > > mention of any properties or description

available from 15 Mukhi > > onwards in any of the text. > > Yes I agree that a

javanese 1 mukhi has a clear 1 line on the bead > > and when it is cut

laterally then only one seed is seen. A two mukhi > > javanese bead similarly

have two seeds inside. I feel javanese one > > mukhi is more authentic than

even Indian Kaju shaped 1 mukhi. And > > have you noticed the shape of 1 mukhi

Javanese bead it is just like > > a flattened and tappered bead.> > I want to

further submit that botanically 1 mukhi round bead can > > never exist. Simple

logic behind this is thatif we srr a 6 mukhi or > > five mukhi they will be

round beads to the perfection, if we see a 4 > > mukhi bead , we will find it a

bit squarish shaped, if we see a > > three mukhi we find it a bit triangular

shaped, if we see a 2 mukhi > > bead we find it a bit more flat, so in nut

shell as the mukhs of the > > bead reduces the bead becomes more and more

tapered. Why ever we > > have not found a perfect shaped 2 mukhi round bead,

they will always > > be flattened beads whether they are from Nepal, or India

or > > Indonesia. Similarly a 1 mukhi can never be round it will definitely > >

be a Kaju shaped or a haly moon shaped bead. Similarly if we go to > > higher

mukhis like 12 or 13 or 17 and above we will find them more > > oval , I mean

they will have more length and less breadth.> > Now I challange the site that

let it cut the bead laterally and if > > it does not have 4 seeds I will pay

the whole amount to the site > > otherwise this site will promise to not to

misguide the devotees any > > more and dupe people on the name being a reputed

site. A reputed > > site cannot stoop to such low levels for petty monetary

gains. My > > suggestion is that it should be immediately removed from the

site.> > And Devotees pl just do not close your eyes because one particular > >

site has served you well once with the good beads. We should be very > > very

rational in our thinking. We should get the best bead for the > > amount we are

spending. Few devotees show their beads to me and say > > that it is 20 years

old bead and has been given by one Sadhu or > > renowned Baba especially 1

mukhi Rudraksha and beleive me friends > > they are all fake ones. Even old

Babas I dont know from where they > > could manage the fake 1 muhkis or

Rudrakshas with artificially > > carved Trishuls etc. The age of the Rudraksha

can not make it a > > genuine bead. Similarly now also the site is basically

befooling the > > devotees. So beware Freinds.> > Aum Namah Shivaye> >

Siddharth Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

sacred-objects, Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> > > wrote:> > >> > >

Really?! This is very odd to read. So what happened? I ordered 4 > > malas from

Nepa Rudraksha and always received first class beads and > > treatment. In 2003

I obtained a siddha mala with stunning collector > > beads at much less price

than Rudra Centre could offer. I did not > > even order collector beads, as

this was before the the term was > > coined on the internet. We have also

purchased from RC twice and > > their selection of beads is great, except for

one incident where my > > wife received a 10 mukhi collector bead and it was

quite smaller > > than advertised. RC's artisanship is very good, I dont know

if any > > other retailer offer better quality for this at comparable prices.>

> > > > > Having said this, I am happy that this sort of information can > > be

exchanged, but ubnfortunately I am also aware that negative > > stories can

easily be fabricated on forums in the name of promoting > > business....> > > >

> > ~ Ole> > > > > > deven chopra <chopradeven81@> wrote:> > > i ordered few

months ago from nepa rudraksh a and that guy > > sent me severly cracked beads>

> > > > > even the secons time they sent me cracked beads> > > > > > Since then

i have only ordered from rudra center> > > > > > DEVEN> > > > > > alstrup

<alstrup@> wrote:> > > Dear Richard and Friends,> > > > > > I was just visiting

the site of Nepa Rudraksha, considered to be > > one> > > of the most authentic

and reliable wholesellers of the Nepali> > > Rudraksha. I believe they supply

the majority of the large Indian> > > retailers. They have just added the

STUNNING DISCOVERY, the first > > in> > > their 40 years of doing business, of

GENUINE ROUND ONE MUKHI AND > > > NIRAKAR NEPALI RUDRAKSHA, WOW, THIS IS TRULY

INCREDIBLE!!!> > > > > > I believe we can be sure these beads are the real

thing, Nepa > > > Rudraksha have an impeccable reputation and would definitely

not > > risk > > > to jeopardize this by offering fake beads.> > > > > > Go to

http://www.nepalirudraksha.com/ to take Darshan of these most> > > rare

Rudraksha in existence. I have contacted Mukunda Khatiwada > > for > > > more

information and will update as soon as I learn more. > > > > > > ~ Ole> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> Jiyo cricket on India cricket> > > Messenger Mobile Stay in

touch with your buddies all the > > time. > > > > > > > > > 9;s

eye Bona fide Yellow sapphire Blue sapphires > > Symbols > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web.> > > > > > To from

this group, send an email to:> > > sacred-objects>

> > > > > Terms of > >

Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Photos – NEW, now

offering a quality print service from > > just 8p a photo.> > >> >>

February 20, 2006

> all let us be very clear that any Rudraksha will have seeds inside

> which are actual the source of energy of a bead. It is a proven fact

> that a 5 mukhi bead if cut laterally will have 5 seeds inside it and

> same goes for any other mukhi bead.Can you give references for the same? What

experiments and tests have been conducted, regarding the same that it proves

beyond doubt that seeds will correspond to the mukhas?

Simple logic behind this is thatif we srr a 6 mukhi or