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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Anna,

Namaste

 

[Now the major question I've been facing so far without answer- what

is the role of personal attraction to a certain stone in making the

choice which stone is right for a person. To give you an ex: I've

always been attracted to amethyst the most, untill I learnt it had

Saturn vibes /and Sa is malefic for my rising sign, Cancer; so, I

abstain from wearing it despite never dieing attraction- just in case

In past I wore amethyst a lot, and I love violet in general,

My reasoning is that we 'know' what energy we need for growth, well-

being, and in general I tend to trust that powerful intelligence

within us...

I would appreciate any coment on these issues.

Regards,

Anna]

 

Saturn does not work wonders for your 7th house. Being the 8th moolatrikona

lord, it does not bode well where longevity of sustaining a relationship is

concerned.

It is also said that where one lacks, that's the area where the gemstone

draws you to.

How is your relationship/partnership aspect?

 

Love,

Swee

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Hello Richard, Alok, Swee and all,

 

Greetings from a new member of the List- I've recently joined to

learn more about stones

 

I've read Richard's post on snake stone- it seems to be different

from serpentine stone --name deduced from it's resemblance of snake

skin. is that righ? What's the value, if any of that serpentine stone

I wish if you would tell me what beautiful yellow calcite stones

corespond to /in astro terms/, if at all.

 

Now the major question I've been facing so far without answer- what

is the role of personal attraction to a certain stone in making the

choice which stone is right for a person. To give you an ex: I've

always been attracted to amethyst the most, untill I learnt it had

Saturn vibes /and Sa is malefic for my rising sign, Cancer; so, I

abstain from wearing it despite never dieing attraction- just in case

In past I wore amethyst a lot, and I love violet in general,

My reasoning is that we 'know' what energy we need for growth, well-

being, and in general I tend to trust that powerful intelligence

within us...

I would appreciate any coment on these issues.

Regards,

Anna

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Dear Anna,

 

As far as the horoscope is concerned, i believe that stones related

to planets which are Shubha should be worn. Stones related to

Planets in Trik houses, or in malefic associations should be avoided.

 

Stones related to planets in Mrityoobhaga, in mritavastha, lords of

kendra trikona, in combustion etc should be worn. This increases

their dormant powers. But in general even an average astrologer

cannot determine which planet is good. Sometimes planets placed in

bad houses also affect you in a good way when their stones are worn.

( For example a while coral is good when you have Mars in the eighth

house)

 

In karka ascendant Shani is a general malefic. But placed in house

fourth it will give you good effect. Hereby you can wear its

stone.But its malefic needs to be determined and that can only be

done by very good and learned astrologer.

 

As far as personal magnetism for stones are concerned, i have a

different opinion. Your intution or AntarShakti can illude you

sometime. In my case i was always attracted to Blue Sapphires. In

reality my Saturn is with Moon and aspected by exalted Mars. I have

strange fascination for blue sapphires. But i cannot wear it because

it shows highly negative effects on me when i wear it.

 

 

I believe that perceptions illude you for some time. Even negative

planets have charms and they can create attraction for fatalistic

pieces. I trust my sixth sense but i cannot leave my logic.

 

 

Regards

 

Alok Jagawat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sacred-objects, "bona_mente" <bona_mente

wrote:

>

> Hello Richard, Alok, Swee and all,

>

> Greetings from a new member of the List- I've recently joined to

> learn more about stones

>

> I've read Richard's post on snake stone- it seems to be different

> from serpentine stone --name deduced from it's resemblance of snake

> skin. is that righ? What's the value, if any of that serpentine

stone

> I wish if you would tell me what beautiful yellow calcite stones

> corespond to /in astro terms/, if at all.

>

> Now the major question I've been facing so far without answer- what

> is the role of personal attraction to a certain stone in making the

> choice which stone is right for a person. To give you an ex: I've

> always been attracted to amethyst the most, untill I learnt it had

> Saturn vibes /and Sa is malefic for my rising sign, Cancer; so, I

> abstain from wearing it despite never dieing attraction- just in

case

> In past I wore amethyst a lot, and I love violet in general,

> My reasoning is that we 'know' what energy we need for growth, well-

> being, and in general I tend to trust that powerful intelligence

> within us...

> I would appreciate any coment on these issues.

> Regards,

> Anna

>

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Alok,

Namaste

 

But in general even an average astrologer cannot determine which planet is

good. Sometimes planets placed in bad houses also affect you in a good way

when their stones are worn.

 

Methods I use - work out the Graha Samaya and Yogi and Avayogi. Verify if

these are yogadas. An avayogi gives good results if placed in negative rasis

- dusthanas or in dagdha rasi. The trines to Yogi planet also help in a

powerful display of energies.

 

Love,

Swee

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exalted Mars. I have strange fascination for blue sapphires. But i cannot wear

it because it shows highly negative effects on me when i wear it.I believe that

perceptions illude you for some time. Even negative planets have charms and they

can create attraction for fatalistic pieces. I trust my sixth sense but i cannot

leave my logic. -ha ha! Who says that only GOOD /gems, people, situations/ is

appealing- life would be too easy for majority of us /and it's not, "not meant

to be easy"/On the contrary, it seems, we are so often attracted, addicted,

pulled, etc, to what hurt us. I've just written, in response to Swee, that

maybe that attraction helps us meet our destiny, experience burn off some

negative karma, and we get lured to that, either by gems or drugs,

lovers and foes... I wear violet bcs I look and feel good with that colour, I

wore amethyst /and sapphire and diamonds/, but stopped, for reasons you

mentioned. Just in case. I don't have clear indications, experience on

(-)effect of these gems, as you do, thus cannot 'blame' them for either success

or suffering, since I've experienced both. Maybe /strong, AmK/ Sa was good for

my prof.career, but not for health, relationships../in certain periods only/

If I may ask you one more question, and hope Swee and others may want to

respond,

too, What one should do if a planet is both Ava-Yogi and MahaYogada in the

chart- My Rahu /in 8th/and Lord Sa in 3rd, op.Ju in Pisces. How do we decide

which significance prevails? /you would be right if you assume that I have a

personal interest- I am experiencing some problems in 8th H area: inheritance,

compensation, others' money, and am currently in Mars MD- Mars exactly trines

Rahu in Aq. It seems that Rahu benefits from contact with Mars, since I've been

mostly lucky with 8thH matters, so far. Rahu is MK, and Ishta Devata!!! I wear

red coral, occasionally only. Would hesonit garnet be advisable or prohibited

in this situation. Mars MD is not bad so far, except for these problems I hope

to resolve this year/?/ Best wishes, Anna RegardsAloe Jagawat

sacred-objects, "bona_mente" <bona_mente wrote:>>

Hello Richard, Alok, Swee and all,> > Greetings from a new member of the List-

I've recently joined to > learn more about stones> > I've read Richard's post

on snake stone- it seems to be different > from serpentine stone --name deduced

from it's resemblance of snake > skin. is that righ? What's the value, if any of

that serpentine stone> I wish if you would tell me what beautiful yellow calcite

stones > corespond to /in astro terms/, if at all.> > Now the major question

I've been facing so far without answer- what > is the role of personal

attraction to a certain stone in making the > choice which stone is right for a

person. To give you an ex: I've > always been attracted to amethyst

the most, untill I learnt it had > Saturn vibes /and Sa is malefic for my rising

sign, Cancer; so, I > abstain from wearing it despite never dieing attraction-

just in case> In past I wore amethyst a lot, and I love violet in general, > My

reasoning is that we 'know' what energy we need for growth, well-> being, and in

general I tend to trust that powerful intelligence > within us...> I would

appreciate any coment on these issues.> Regards,> Anna>

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Jaya

Jagannatha

 

Dear Anna,

Namaste

 

An avayogi

if placed in a negative house – either a dusthana or a dagdha rasi will

give positive results. Rahu takes on the energy of that house wherever it is

posited, in your case, I will not encourage a gemstone for Rahu. Gomedha –

is not hessonite as such, but I would opt more for the colour of amber –

like the colour of cow urine.

 

Parashara

clearly states that a malefic in the 7th will drive the spouse away.

Not taking the literal context, but in applying it to yours because both the 7th

and 8th belong to a natural malefic. It also has 2 co-lords whom you

will need to contend with. Both give their strength during their 3rd

phase – Rahu, being the other way around as it is always retrograde. Hence,

during its 3rd (“first”) drekkana 30 – 20 degrees,

you will see the impact of Rahu at work. While for Saturn, it is 20 – 30 degrees.

Saturn is also a real poser for you until it leaves your ascendant. So do hang

on in there. The Violet colour actually comes from Moon which can help you with

unblocking many indecisive moments that you are currently experiencing. What strength

is the graha samaya? If it is good, even better!

Richard is

the right person here to help you with obtaining a natural pearl.

 

Love,

Swee

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sacred-objects [sacred-objects] On Behalf Of 108ar

Wednesday, February 22, 2006

5:10 AM

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Gem appeal, Calcite, serpentine, etc

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Dear Alok,

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Thanks

for this nice and informative response.

You've so nicely caught the subtle

shades of attraction , allure, fascination/sixth sense and common sense and

experience. Yes, I would go with the later, as you stated.

You write:

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font-family:"Courier New"">----As far as personal magnetism for stones are

concerned, i have a

different opinion. Your intuition or AntarShakti can illude you

sometime. In my case i was always attracted to Blue Sapphires. In

reality my Saturn is with Moon and aspected by exalted Mars. I have

strange fascination for blue sapphires. But i cannot wear it because

it shows highly negative effects on me when i wear it.

I believe that perceptions illude you for some time. Even negative

planets have charms and they can create attraction for fatalistic

pieces. I trust my sixth sense but i cannot leave my logic.

font-family:"Courier New"">-ha

ha! Who says that only GOOD /gems, people, situations/ is appealing- life

would be too easy for majority of us /and it's not, "not meant to be

easy"/On the contrary, it seems, we are so often attracted, addicted,

pulled, etc, to what hurt us.

I've

just written, in response to Swee,

that maybe

that attraction helps us meet our destiny, experience

burn off some negative karma,

and we get

lured to that, either by gems or dru gs, lovers and foes...

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I wear violet bcs I look and feel good

with that colour, I wore amethyst /and sapphire and diamonds/,

but stopped, for reasons you mentioned.

Just in case.

I don't have clear indications,

experience on (-)effect of these gems, as you do,

thus cannot 'blame' them for either

success or suffering, since I've experienced both. Maybe /strong, AmK/ Sa was

good for my prof.career, but not for health, relationships../in certain

periods only/

 

If I may

ask you one more question,

and hope Swee

and others may want to respond, too,

What one

should do if a planet is both Ava-Yogi and MahaYogada in the chart-

My Rahu /in 8th/and Lord Sa in 3rd, op.Ju in Pisces. How do we decide which

significance prevails?

/you would be

right if you assume that I have a personal interest- I am experiencing some

problems in 8th H area: inheritance, compensation, others' money, and am

currently in Mars MD- Mars exactly trines Rahu in Aq. It seems that Rahu

benefits from contact with Mars, since I've been mostly lucky with 8thH

matters, so far. Rahu is MK, and Ishta Devata!!!

I wear

red coral, occasionally only. Would hesonit garnet be advisable or prohibited

in this situation. Mars MD is not bad so far, except for these problems I hope

to resolve this year/?/

 

Best wishes,

 

Anna

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Regards

Aloe Jagawat

sacred-objects, "bona_mente"

<bona_mente

wrote:

>

> Hello Richard, Alok, Swee and all,

>

> Greetings from a new member of the List- I've recently joined to

> learn more about stones

>

> I've read Richard's post on snake stone- it seems to be different

> from serpentine stone --name deduced from it's resemblance of snake

> skin. is that righ? What's the value, if any of that serpentine

stone

> I wish if you would tell me what beautiful yellow calcite stones

> corespond to /in astro terms/, if at all.

>

> Now the major question I've been facing so far without answer- what

> is the role of personal attraction to a certain stone in making the

> choice which stone is right for a person. To give you an ex: I've

> always been attracted to ame thyst the most, untill I learnt it had

> Saturn vibes /and Sa is malefic for my rising sign, Cancer; so, I

> abstain from wearing it despite never dieing attraction- just in

case

> In past I wore amethyst a lot, and I love violet in general,

> My reasoning is that we 'know' what energy we need for growth, well-

> being, and in general I tend to trust that powerful intelligence

> within us...

> I would appreciate any coment on these issues.

> Regards,

> Anna

>

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is Yoga karaka- but as you know, I am not versed in gems- that's the reason I

joined the group, to learn more- I think I'll always be very cautious in this

area when giving advice to others, until/if ever I become proficient enough in

this area. This seems to be a 'lazy' way to deal with (-)periods, as somebody,

I think you said that! Or maybe I just tend to believe, in absence of strong

proofs so far maybe?, in prayers, mantras, donations, generosity, help, 'help

others where/when in need for help' etc along that line. Professional

deformation?maybe, but my personal set-up and experience as well. Amber

colour or amber itself? I have nice pieces with yellow hesonite garnet, light,

intense yellow-orange I like, but I am not sure if I should wear it, now in

Mars MD /Sa antar, or ever? i like it, though. I respect your opinion, please

answer these Qs. I am not sure whether you'd encourage me to wear violet

colour only /I like it so much/, or that I can wear violet gems like amethyst,

beautiful rainbow fluorite...I abstain from that now. Swee, Sa in 1st on

lagna, hasn't been so bad for me so far/First time when that happened I married

and gave birth to my son/. Perhaps high Sa SAV points there help. I expect Mars

MD to be good-and better as time goes on /UNLESS Rahu picked up Mars energy and

beneficence, being in exact trine with mars, conjunct in navamsa of course./in

5th/ I worry about my mother the most, and pray for her, since mars is in

4th. She is doing well and I pray that God grant me many more years of that

unique blessing of my life, as my mother is. Please comment if you get a

chance. Thanks again, Swee. Love, yours, AnnaSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm>

wrote:

MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> Jaya Jagannatha Dear Anna, Namaste

Style'"> An avayogi if placed in a negative house – either a dusthana or a

dagdha rasi will give positive results. Rahu takes on the energy of that house

wherever it is posited, in your case, I will not encourage a gemstone for Rahu.

Gomedha – is not hessonite as such, but I would opt more for the colour of amber

– like the colour of cow urine. Parashara clearly states that a malefic in the

7th will drive the spouse away. Not

taking the literal context, but in applying it to yours because both the 7th and

8th belong to a natural malefic. It also has 2 co-lords whom you will need to

contend with. Both give their strength during their 3rd phase – Rahu, being the

other way around as it is always retrograde. Hence, during its 3rd (“first”)

drekkana 30 – 20 degrees, you will see the impact of Rahu at work. While for

Saturn, it is 20 – 30 degrees. Saturn is also a real poser for you until it

leaves your ascendant. So do hang on in there. The Violet colour actually comes

from Moon which can help you with unblocking many indecisive moments that you

are currently experiencing. What strength is the graha samaya? If it is good,

even better! Richard is the right person here to help you with

obtaining a natural pearl. Love, Swee sacred-objects

[sacred-objects] On Behalf Of 108arWednesday,

February 22, 2006 5:10 AMsacred-objectsSubject: Re:

Re: Gem appeal, Calcite, serpentine, etc Dear Alok,

Thanks for this nice and informative response. You've so nicely caught the

subtle shades of attraction , allure, fascination/sixth sense and common sense

and experience. Yes, I would go with the later, as you stated. You

write: ----As far as personal magnetism for stones are concerned, i have a

different opinion. Your intuition or AntarShakti can illude you sometime. In my

case i was always attracted to Blue Sapphires. In reality my Saturn is with Moon

and aspected by exalted Mars. I have strange fascination for blue sapphires. But

i cannot wear it because it shows highly negative effects on me when i wear it.I

believe that perceptions illude you for some time. Even negative planets have

charms and they can create attraction for

fatalistic pieces. I trust my sixth sense but i cannot leave my logic. -ha ha!

Who says that only GOOD /gems, people, situations/ is appealing- life would be

too easy for majority of us /and it's not, "not meant to be easy"/On the

contrary, it seems, we are so often attracted, addicted, pulled, etc, to what

hurt us. I've just written, in response to Swee, that maybe that attraction

helps us meet our destiny, experience burn off some negative karma, and we get

lured to that, either by gems or dru gs, lovers and foes...

BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> I wear violet bcs I look and feel good with that

colour, I wore amethyst /and sapphire and diamonds/, but stopped, for reasons

you mentioned. Just in case. I don't have clear indications, experience on

(-)effect of these gems, as you do, thus cannot 'blame' them for either

success or suffering, since I've experienced

both. Maybe /strong, AmK/ Sa was good for my prof.career, but not for health,

relationships../in certain periods only/ If I may ask you one more

question, and hope Swee and others may want to respond, too, What one should

do if a

planet is both Ava-Yogi and MahaYogada in the chart- My Rahu /in 8th/and Lord Sa

in 3rd, op.Ju in Pisces. How do we decide which significance prevails? /you

would be right if you assume that I have a personal interest- I am experiencing

some problems in 8th H area: inheritance, compensation, others' money, and am

currently in Mars MD- Mars exactly trines Rahu in Aq. It seems that Rahu

benefits from contact with Mars, since I've been mostly lucky with 8thH

matters, so far. Rahu is MK, and Ishta Devata!!! I wear red coral,

occasionally only. Would hesonit garnet be advisable or prohibited in

this situation. Mars MD is not bad so far, except for these problems I hope to

resolve this year/?/ Best wishes, Anna

New'"> RegardsAloe Jagawat sacred-objects,

"bona_mente" <bona_mente wrote:>> Hello Richard, Alok, Swee and all,> >

Greetings from a new member of the List- I've recently joined to > learn more

about stones> > I've read Richard's post on snake stone- it seems to be

different > from serpentine stone --name deduced from it's resemblance of snake

> skin. is that righ? What's the value, if any of that serpentine stone> I wish

if

you would tell me what beautiful yellow calcite stones > corespond to /in astro

terms/, if at all.> > Now the major question I've been facing so far without

answer- what > is the role of personal attraction to a certain stone in making

the > choice which stone is right for a person. To give you an ex: I've >

always been attracted to ame thyst the most, untill I learnt it had > Saturn

vibes /and Sa is malefic for my rising sign, Cancer; so, I > abstain from

wearing it despite never dieing attraction- just in case> In past I wore

amethyst a lot, and I love violet in general, > My reasoning is that we 'know'

what energy we need for growth, well-> being, and in general I tend to trust

that powerful intelligence > within us...> I would appreciate any coment on

these issues.> Regards,> Anna> Relax. Mail virus scanning helps

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Jaya

Jagannatha

 

Dear Anna,

Namaste

 

Moon being

AK makes one rather compassionate. You have a special connection with people

– perhaps a psychic of sorts with the 8th lord on the

ascendant with AL as Jupiter in the 10th

from AL,

rewards comes with teaching or when you have found your

“teacher/Guru” – perhaps through a change in your environment

– rather long distance, isn’t it?

Marriage

and child during Saturn with 8th lord on the ascendant must be a rewarding

and introspective time for you where both husband and child are concerned. Much

sufferings have had to be realized. I was born during my AK period. So what

would I know about sufferings? Our mind only allows us to identify that

negative situations are called sufferings, but is it? We need to transcend

those thoughts to a non physical plane and understand what He is all about.

Prasara is

quite clear when it comes to a malefic placement in a satvic sign. That sign

gets contaminated. You will certainly need to wear a Pearl and that means as natural as it comes

– not nucleated, not tissue cultured. This is to enable to

“clear” any residual negative aura from yourself that maybe

transferred during or after your healing sessions with people especially when

you do your psychic work. Do you?

 

Why not a

gemstone for AK? If it the gemstone of a weak benefic, you’ll need to

strengthen it. I gave this talk in Puri and gave chart examples. Since then,

Sanjay ji has changed his mind about not prescribing the gemstone for an AK.

 

So where

is your Venus?

 

Love,

Swee

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[sacred-objects] On Behalf Of 108ar

Saturday, February 25, 2006

7:10 AM

sacred-objects

RE: Re:

Gem appeal, Calcite, serpentine, etc

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Dear Swee,

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Thanks so much for this response and explanation- yes, you are

right-I did have positive experience related to Rahu in 8th in the past.

This is an area I wish to investigate- Some Jyotisha say that Rahu in

8th behaves well, some that's like a curse. I feel that what you

wrote fits my actual experience. I am in Mars MD now /conj. Hora lagna/

and I do have corals, but wear them only occasionally bcs I like them

/present from my mom/. I have pearls I wore during the Moon MD occasionally,

cannot say whether that helped or not, really. Moon is my AK, maybe I should

not wear them at all?-don't know- it was the most intense /in terms of

suffering, ah!/ MD at one big period of time, at least. My AL is

Pisces with Ju there, so Mars is in 8th from AL- /and Rahu is 12th from

AL-now you know how giving I am, LOL!/ I wouldn't advice anybody to wear

stone of such a planet, even if it is Yoga karaka- but as you know, I am

not versed in gems- that's the reason I joined the group, to learn more-

I think I'll always be very cautious in this area when giving advice to others,

until/if ever I become proficient enough in this area.

This seems to be a 'lazy' way to deal with (-)periods, as somebody, I think you

said that! Or maybe I just tend to believe, in absence of strong proofs so far

maybe?, in prayers, mantras, donations, generosity, help, 'help others

where/when in need for help' etc along that line. Professional

deformation?maybe, but my personal set-up and experience as well.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Amber colour or amber itself? I have nice pieces with yellow hesonite

garnet, light, intense yellow-orange I like, but I am not sure if I should wear

it, now in Mars MD /Sa antar, or ever? i like it, though.

12.0pt">I respect your opinion, please answer these Qs.

12.0pt">I am not sure whether you'd encourage me to wear violet colour

only /I like it so much/, or that I can wear violet gems like

amethyst, beautiful rainbow fluorite...I abstain from that now.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Swee, Sa in 1st on lagna, hasn't been so bad for me so far/First time

when that happened I married and gave birth to my son/. Perhaps high

Sa SAV points there help.

12.0pt">I expect Mars MD to be good-and better as time goes on /UNLESS

Rahu picked up Mars energy and beneficence, being in exact trine with mars,

conjunct in navamsa of course./in 5th/

12.0pt">

12.0pt">I worry about my mother the most, and pray for her, since mars is

in 4th. She is doing well and I pray that God grant me many more years of that

unique blessing of my life, as my mother is. Please comment if you get a

chance.

12.0pt">Thanks again, Swee.

12.0pt">Love,

yours,

12.0pt">Anna

Swee Chan

<swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

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Jaya

Jagannatha

 

Dear Anna,

Namaste

 

An avayogi

if placed in a negative house – either a dusthana or a dagdha rasi will give

positive results. Rahu takes on the energy of that house wherever it is

posited, in your case, I will not encourage a gemstone for Rahu. Gomedha

– is not hessonite as such, but I would opt more for the colour of amber

– like the colour of cow urine.

 

Parashara

clearly states that a malefic in the 7th will drive the spouse aw

ay. Not taking the literal context, but in applying it to yours because both

the 7th and 8th belong to a natural malefic. It also has

2 co-lords whom you will need to contend with. Both give their strength during

their 3rd phase – Rahu, being the other way around as it is

always retrograde. Hence, during its 3rd (“first”)

drekkana 30 – 20 degrees, you will see the impact of Rahu at work. While

for Saturn, it is 20 – 30 degrees. Saturn is also a real poser for you

until it leaves your ascendant. So do hang on in there. The Violet colour

actually comes from Moon which can help you with unblocking many indecisive

moments that you are currently experiencing. What strength is the graha samaya?

If it is good, even better!

Richard is

the right person here to help you with obtaining a natural pearl.

 

Love,

Swee

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[sacred-objects] On Behalf Of 108ar

Wednesday, February 22, 2006

5:10 AM

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Re: Re:

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Dear Alok,

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Thanks for this nice and informative

response.

You've so nicely caught the subtle

shades of attraction , allure, fascination/sixth sense and common sense and

experience. Yes, I would go with the later, as you stated.

You write:

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font-family:"Courier New"">----As far as personal magnetism for stones are

concerned, i have a

different opinion. Your intuition or AntarShakti can illude you

sometime. In my case i was always attracted to Blue Sapphires. In

reality my Saturn is with Moon and aspected by exalted Mars. I have

strange fascination for blue sapphires. But i cannot wear it because

it shows highly negative effects on me when i wear it.

I believe that perceptions illude you for some time. Even negative

planets have charms and they can create attracti on for fatalistic

pieces. I trust my sixth sense but i cannot leave my logic.

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ha! Who says that only GOOD /gems, people, situations/ is appealing- life

would be too easy for majority of us /and it's not, "not meant to be

easy"/On the contrary, it seems, we are so often attracted, addicted,

pulled, etc, to what hurt us.

I've

just written, in response to Swee,

that maybe

that attraction helps us meet our destiny, experience

burn off some negative karma,

and we get

lured to that, either by gems or dru gs, lovers and foes...

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I wear violet bcs I look and feel good

with that colour, I wore amethyst /and sapphire and diamonds/,

but stopped, for reasons you mentioned.

Just in case.

I don't have clear indications,

experience on (-)effect of these gems, as you do,

thus cannot 'blame' them for either

success or suffering, since I've experie nced both. Maybe /strong, AmK/ Sa was

good for my prof.career, but not for health, relationships../in certain

periods only/

 

If I may

ask you one more question,

and hope Swee

and others may want to respond, too,

What one

should do if a planet is both Ava-Yogi and MahaYogada in the chart- My

Rahu /in 8th/and Lord Sa in 3rd, op.Ju in Pisces. How do we decide which

significance prevails?

/you would be

right if you assume that I have a personal interest- I am experiencing some

problems in 8th H area: inheritance, compensation, others' money, and am

currently in Mars MD- Mars exactly trines Rahu in Aq. It seems that Rahu

benefits from contact with Mars, since I've been mostly lucky with 8thH

matters, so far. Rahu is MK, and Ishta Devata!!!

I wear

red coral, occasionally only. Would hesonit garnet be advisable or prohibit ed

in this situation. Mars MD is not bad so far, except for these problems I hope

to resolve this year/?/

 

Best wishes,

 

Anna

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Regards

Aloe Jagawat

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"bona_mente" <bona_mente

wrote:

>

> Hello Richard, Alok, Swee and all,

>

> Greetings from a new member of the List- I've recently joined to

> learn more about stones

>

> I've read Richard's post on snake stone- it seems to be different

> from serpentine stone --name deduced from it's resemblance of snake

> skin. is that righ? What's the value, if any of that serpentine

stone

> I wish if you would tell me what beautiful yellow calcite stones

> corespond to /in astro terms/, if at all.

>

> Now the major question I've been facing so far without answer- what

> is the role of personal attraction to a certain stone in making the

> choice which stone is right for a person. To give you an ex: I've

> always been attracted to ame thyst the most, untill I learnt it had

> Saturn vibes /and Sa is malefic for my rising sign, Cancer; so, I

> abstain from wearing it despite never dieing attraction- just in

case

> In past I wore amethyst a lot, and I love violet in general,

> My reasoning is that we 'know' what energy we need for growth, well-

> being, and in general I tend to trust that powerful intelligence

> within us...

> I would appreciate any coment on these issues.

> Regards,

> Anna

>

 

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some psychic faculties /that I am sometimes affraid of/- but I strongly believe

in 'mind power"- we can recognize it within ourselves, or externalize it, and

strengthen through meditation, prayers- I've found this to be The most

powerful. /I was referring to transit Sa over my Lagna- And Ju is on my AL/.

Love, Anna

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Dear Anna,

Namaste

 

It is good

to offer Narasimha Stuti with transit Sani over your ascendant. The double

functional malefic is Mercury, being a functional malefic and is also the

badhakesh from your AL - 2nd from

badhaksthana (of AL)

is your own ascendant. Considering Moon’s moolatrikona is from 3 –

30 deg in the 11th house which is also 6th from your AL. Hence your judgment

on your self may falter due to this. [Wearing a diamond will cause problems

where fixed assets are concerned. Not that I am recommending you dole out

more bucks.]

Anyway, hopefully

you’ll begin your offering of prayers soon before the opposition of

Saturn and Jupiter….

 

I will

leave Richard to answer about legalities wrt harvesting natural Pearls.

 

Good luck.

 

Love,

Swee

 

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[sacred-objects] On Behalf Of 108ar

Tuesday, February 28, 2006

7:29 AM

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RE: Re:

Gem appeal, Calcite, serpentine, etc

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12.0pt">Dear Swee,

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12.0pt">Always good to read your writings- yes, you are right,

I've learned AK stuff from Sanjay- it was confirmed by my own AK period,

so I tend to accept the 'whole package'. I didn't notice any effect of pearls

during my MoonAK MD- neither + nor -. I think I had to go through that the way

I did- I played by ears /following and trusting my instincts/, and I

think, in retrospective, it was the right way to do things.

I like stones, in general. I wear pearls when they fit my wardrobe now, LOL. If

AK stone brings suffering or nor- I don't know- I haven't had experience of

either. Besides "natural pearls" are illegal to harvest, nowadays-

plus, even I were a royalty I would choose charity and prayers over

overpriced gems- I have so many people in my life I'd like to support, I

would feel guilty about spending much on gems, even if I could afford

them. I am a psychologist /clinical/ Swee- and yes, I do have some psychic

faculties /that I am sometimes affraid of/- but I strongly believe in

'mind power"- we can recognize it within ourselves, or externalize

it, and strengthen through meditation, prayers- I've found this to be The

most powerful.

/I was referring to transit Sa over my Lagna- And Ju is on my AL/.

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like/dislike/ diamonds. Just want to understand the rule behind your suggestion.

Knowledge, new knowledge, my life-long excitement about learning, accumulation

of /wealth, LOL/ of knowledge, so you wet my appetite , please elaborate on

this. Dear Swee, I am a staunch orthodox Cristian- and I don't know what

Narasimha Stuti means /stuti/. I believe that we all were born with certain

religion for a reason, and conversion is not an option for me . This must be Ju

in 9th devotion... Love, AnnaSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Jaya

Jagannatha Dear Anna, Namaste It is good to offer Narasimha Stuti with

transit Sani over your ascendant. The double functional malefic is Mercury,

being a functional malefic and is also the badhakesh from your AL - 2nd from

badhaksthana (of AL) is your own ascendant. Considering Moon’s moolatrikona is

from 3 – 30 deg in the 11th house which is also 6th from your AL. Hence your

judgment on your self may falter due to this. [Wearing a diamond will cause

problems where fixed assets are

concerned. Not that I am recommending you dole out more bucks.] Anyway,

hopefully you’ll begin your offering of prayers soon before the opposition of

Saturn and Jupiter…. I will leave Richard to answer about legalities wrt

harvesting natural Pearls.

Style'"> Good luck. Love, Swee sacred-objects

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February 28, 2006 7:29 AMsacred-objectsSubject: RE:

Re: Gem appeal, Calcite, serpentine,

etc Dear Swee, Always good to read your writings- yes, you are right,

I've learned AK stuff from Sanjay- it was confirmed by my own AK period, so I

tend to accept the 'whole package'. I didn't notice any effect of pearls during

my MoonAK MD- neither + nor -. I think I had to go through that the way I did- I

played by ears /following and trusting my instincts/, and I think, in

retrospective, it was the right way to do things. I like stones, in

general. I wear pearls when they fit my wardrobe now, LOL. If AK stone brings

suffering or nor- I don't know- I haven't had experience of either. Besides

"natural pearls" are illegal to harvest, nowadays- plus, even I were a royalty

I would choose charity and prayers over overpriced gems- I have so many people

in my life I'd like to support, I would feel guilty about spending much on

gems, even if I could afford them. I am a psychologist /clinical/ Swee- and

yes, I do have some psychic faculties /that I am sometimes affraid of/- but I

strongly believe in 'mind power"- we can recognize it within ourselves, or

externalize it, and strengthen through meditation, prayers- I've found this to

be The most powerful. /I was referring to transit Sa over my Lagna- And Ju is

on my AL/. Love, Anna MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail

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Jagannatha

 

Dear Anna,

Namaste

 

Now you’ve

cleared the point that your AL

is actually in Pi. So mutable sign will be badhaksthana from AL.

Staunch

Roman Catholic? The little book on Psalms will help you.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

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[sacred-objects] On Behalf Of 108ar

Tuesday, February 28, 2006

8:34 PM

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RE: Re:

Gem appeal, Calcite, serpentine, etc

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12.0pt">Dear Swee,

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12.0pt">I found an interesting piece of information from your post- I haven't

heard about so far- you say that 2nd from badakastana from AL is my own Lagna-

It's 8th H from Al for

mutable ascedents. So for fixed Al it would be 10th H from AL???

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12.0pt">I would appreciate if you'd elaborate on this.

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12.0pt">I don't understand the major issue here: My AL is Pi-Ju is in Pi-

12.0pt">8th H from AL is

Libra with Mars- why is this my Lagna, derived Lagna?, how do we treat this in

interpretation. I don't know anything about that. Which Lagna you actually

consider as AL?

8th from Al is second marrige, end of first marriage, 8th H issues as well...

12.0pt">Me is functional malefic, yes, but it's Vipareeta RY- I've experienced

quite beneficial things in Me antars which I accredit to its VRY status- is

that right?

Why would diamond be bad for fixed assets? Ve lord of 4th?

12.0pt">/I don't like/dislike/ diamonds. Just want to understand the rule

behind your suggestion. Knowledge, new knowledge, my life-long excitement about

learning, accumulation of /wealth, LOL/ of knowledge,

12.0pt">so you wet my appetite ,

12.0pt">please elaborate on this.

12.0pt">Dear Swee, I am a staunch orthodox Cristian- and I don't know what

Narasimha Stuti means /stuti/. I believe that we all were born with certain

religion for a reason, and conversion is not an option for me . This must be Ju

in 9th devotion...

12.0pt">Love,

12.0pt">Anna

Swee Chan

<swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

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Jaya

Jagannatha

 

Dear Anna,

Namaste

 

It is good

to offer Narasimha Stuti with transit Sani over your ascendant. The double

functional malefic is Mercury, being a functional malefic and is also the

badhakesh from your AL

- 2nd from badhaksthana (of AL)

is your own ascendant. Considering Moon’s moolatrikona is from 3 –

30 deg in the 11th house which is also 6th from your AL.

Hence your judgment on your self may falter due to this. [Wearing a diamond

will cause problems where fixed ass ets are concerned. Not that I am

recommending you dole out more bucks.]

Anyway,

hopefully you’ll begin your offering of prayers soon before the

opposition of Saturn and Jupiter….

 

I will

leave Richard to answer about legalities wrt harvesting natural Pearls.

 

Good luck.

 

Love,

Swee

 

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On Behalf Of 108ar

Tuesday, February 28, 2006

7:29 AM

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RE: Re:

Gem appeal, Calcite, serpentine, etc

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12.0pt">Dear Swee,

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12.0pt">Always good to read your writings- yes, you are right,

I've learned AK stuff from Sanjay- it was confirmed by my own AK period,

so I tend to accept the 'whole package'. I didn't notice any effect of pearls

during my MoonAK MD- neither + nor -. I think I had to go through that the way

I did- I played by ears /following and trusting my instincts/, and I think,

in retrospective, it was the right way to do things.

I like stone s, in general. I wear pearls when they fit my wardrobe now, LOL.

If AK stone brings suffering or nor- I don't know- I haven't had experience of

either. Besides "natural pearls" are illegal to harvest, nowadays-

plus, even I were a royalty I would choose charity and prayers over

overpriced gems- I have so many people in my life I'd like to support, I

would feel guilty about spending much on gems, even if I could afford them. I

am a psychologist /clinical/ Swee- and yes, I do have some psychic faculties

/that I am sometimes affraid of/- but I strongly believe in 'mind

power"- we can recognize it within ourselves, or externalize it, and

strengthen through meditation, prayers- I've found this to be The

most powerful.

/I was referring to transit Sa over my Lagna- And Ju is on my AL/.

 

12.0pt">Love,

12.0pt">Anna

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