which is better - Achintya Bhedabheda

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Dear Sri Rajivji,

 

Sadar namaskar!!! You have seen my adbhuta shila with complete double sided

chakra.

Because I built a school in Dhulkhel Nepal late Shankar-shktyavesh avatara, Kali

Baba was

so pleased that he took me to see his amazing shalagram collection of about 20

amazing

shilas, including a 20KG Shila with complete chakra intact around the entire

center, which

was like a lingam surrounded by a chakra the size of a car tire. And from among

these he

took the smallest one, 1" around, shaped like a smooth egg with a perfect double

sided

chakra merged into the center of shila. It was millions of years water tumbled

and worn

smooth, still the chakra was undamaged. He told me THIS was his "best one". He

whispered into my ear, "Ye ASUL Shalagram, shab sey asul!" And I should worship

it. I

wrote my original Guru, Swami Prabhupada about it and he personally replied

saying (in

part), "Worship Shalagram Shila nicely..." Since then I have only worshipped

this most

perfect Shalagram I have EVER seen anywhere, with Chakra, and I have no

experience of

worshipping imprint chakra Shalagram. But with Shastrta making all these

distinctions

about markings on Shalagram have different meanings (although ALL Being Pra

Vishnu) it

seems hard to think that the presence or absence of a Chakra would have no

meaning.

 

As you have worshipped BOTH types therefore you are qualified to comment. Your

statement that they are all equal, and yet with Chakra seems more powerful,

effect wise,

this is called "Achintya Bhedabheda" --- simultanous difference & non-difference

that is

impossuble to mentally understand.

 

Warm rgds,

Richard

 

sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8> wrote:

>

> Prabhu RSB ji,

> Hare Krishna,

> It was really a very interesting mail. I am extremely happy that you explain

the things

quite implicitly with wonderful examples. Actually all the Shaligama Shilas

with or without

Chakras are equally powerful as all are 'Sakshat Vishnu'. But I personally think

that

Shaligrama Shila with Chakras are more powerful. I have felt the difference in

the

environment in my house when I brought some Shaligramas with Chakras. It might

be

psychological for me but definitely I observed a drastic change in my life. It

was all for

good.

>

> Haribol

> Rajiv

>

>

> Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66> wrote:

> Dear Guruji,

>

> Hari OM!!! Namaste!! Your words are spiritual music to open ears. Thanks for

replying.

>

> There is a story of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu when He was an infant. One day

while he

was

> playing with the other children, his mother Saci brought a dish filled

sweetmeats and

> asked the child to sit down and eat them. But when she returned to her

household

duties,

> the child began to eat dirt. Seeing this, mother Saci returned and asked,

"What is this!"

> She snatched the dirt from the hands of the child and asked why He was eating

it?

>

> The child cried and said, "Why are you angry? You have already given me Dirt

to eat?

What

> is the difference?This body is a transformation of dirt, and the eatables

are also a

> transformation of dirt. You are blaming Me without consideration. Why?"

>

> Astonished that her child was speaking nonsense, mother Saci replied, "Who has

taught

> You this philosophical speculation that justifies eating dirt?" Replying to

the child

> philosopher, mother Saci said, "My dear boy, if we eat earth transformed into

grains, our

> body is nourished, and it becomes strong. But if we eat dirt in its crude

state, the body

> becomes diseased instead of nourished, and we will be ruined."

>

> "In a waterpot, which is a transformation of dirt, I can bring water very

easily. But if I

> poured water on a lump of dirt, the lump would soak up the water, and my labor

would

be

> useless."

>

> The child replied to His mother, "Why did you conceal self-realization by not

teaching

Me

> this practical philosophy in the beginning?Now that I can understand this

philosophy,

no

> more shall I eat dirt. Whenever I am hungry I shall suck your breast and drink

your milk.

>

> Respectfully

> Richard

>

> sacred-objects, "Sri Janaardana Kalianandaswami"

> wrote:

> >

> > Hai OM

> >

> > Is a Shalagram with a chakra different than a Shalagram with only

> > the imprint of a missing chakra?

> >

> > in fact the Shalagram is the fossil of an amomonite - the attached

> > link will give an explaination of this creature:

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonite

> >

> > as for the fossil of the deceased creature or it imprint having any

> > bearing on it's power - I refer you to earlier posts on a gem

> > touching rhe flesh or not - it is found that the giving away of such

> > object gives more results then the wearing of said gems

> >

> > My Beloved Self - it is your faith - the God within you that gives

> > the strength to your endeavor - your sadhana that bears fruit - the

> > most powerful Shalagram I ever saw was a small scaucer shaped one

> > with no imprint - just black smooth stone - it is in the home of Del

> > Yahn in Jenner Calif. - he was diong puja to it as he does daily -

> > he drank some of the water he pour over it and offered the rest to

> > me - the bhava from this worship still stays with this swami to this

> > day - if I ever recieve such a gift - I wish for one like his simple

> > smooth a focus of pure divinity

> >

> > the power of the Shalagram is from you - not from some dead creature

> > nor it's imprint - you are divinity incarnate - only you can

> > enlighten yourself - Guru's such as this swami can point the way to

> > God - but we will not carry you there - all sacred objects are focal

> > points as in dharana - they steady the mind through one pointed

> > concentration - so you can move on to higher levels of understanding

> >

> > Jai Bhagavan

> > Love baba

> >

>

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