Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Dear Sriman Aadiji, Karma misra Bhakti is the yukta vairagya Krishna mentions. If anyone is really so concerned with salvation and ending janma-mrityu-jara-vyadi Samsar Chakra then they should take that up exclusivily, believing that God is the only provider and protector, like a life of bhajan. The Nirvriti-marga. Stop making new karma, to be replaiced by sadhana-bhajan under guidance of a bona fide sampradaya - "sampradhaya vina ye mantraste viphala mata" ---That mantra not received through a bona fide parampara is fruitless. Best regards, Richard Tulasi doesn't concern with vairagya. Tyag comes from Sukriti --- aadi291 <aadi291 wrote: > but richardsir, i agree with you on this vishnu thought. > but i was surprised to find that some people feel that tulsi would > grant them renunciation! yes, tulsi signifies pure devotion, but > lord vishnu is the giver or all material comforts. > i agree with the roopa puja. the seeker gets the benefits of the > form he worships..tirupathi balaji and shree nathji of rajasthan are > known to bestow tremendous wordly riches. other vishnu forms may not > do as much. they will give as their roopa symbolises. narasimhavatar > for eg. > yes, brahmagyan gives vairagyam. this is something which bhagwan > shankar's bhakti might give.. though He in the form a vishuddha > pardeshwar shivling or a high-powered rudraksh bead may give you all > that is needed in a material world. > but as the shastras and saints say, one should not differentiate > between hari and har. in harihar, there is no dwait or dualism. > the lord takes avatar in a particular yug to take care of the > problems in that particular era. that does not mean that bhagwan > vishnu is great and bhagwan shiv is not or some such thing. > parbrahma is the ultimate element. > in india, i was surprised to hear some acclaimed experts of vastu or > other things saying that rudraksh will not give you much money. the > whole language is wrong. > as phadkeji says, true devotee wont ask for anything from the lord. > i would say, he would worship tulsi, rudraksha, valampuri shaligram > with the true devotion of a bhakti. these things are certain to give > their benefits but why worry about it? > > -- In sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown" > <rsbj66> wrote: > > Dear Ole, > > > > In short, there is not a conflict of interest if one walks the > straight and middle > > path. If you want to be a tyagi Vaishnava, full of misery, then > just offend Lord > > Shiva by ignoring His blessings. Lord Shiva is the GREATEST > Vaishnava, as > > well as being one of the Trimurti, and He is said to be God as > yougurt is milk. > > > > Many people are afraid to become Vaishnavas because they fear > material > > ruination. This is not the case. Vishnu is not ones ill-wisher. > God has better > > things to do than cause his devotees to be in poverty. In fact, > His consort is the > > Goddess of Fortune Herself. > > > > Lord Hari doesn't even recriprocate unless He is approached > (asked). Just as > > ghee is in the cow's body but there is no benefit to the cow; it > is by milking the > > cow, creating ghee, and feeding the gree to the cow that it > derives benefit. In > > the same way God is in everyone, but He normally doesn't act > unless > > requested to do so (prayer). > > > > I wear a Tulasi neck mala complete with a 14 mukhi Rudraksha. And > there is > > no conflict. Tulasi is fine and Rudraksha is fine. FINE+FINE=FINE. > > > > Lord Krishna taught Yukta Vairagya, or balanced life, not poverty. > We must be > > self sufficent and not be a burden. And for material and spiritual > blessings > > Rudraksha is the most recommended talisman in the Shastras. It is > the > > ultimate Hindu talisman, and is available to all, rich and poor. > > > > My suggestion is that you wear only ONE Rudraksha bead of your > choice for > > good luck. And Lord Shiva is happy to grant well-being to those > who respect > > and take advantage of His greatness. I think you are wearing too > many > > Rudraksha. If you want a Rudraksha that is best for Hari Bhakti > then use a > > single Dos (10) Mukhi. If you want relief from problems then wear > a 14 mukhi. > > > > You only need ONE good Nepali Rudraksha to compliment your Tulasi. > Be > > sure to use Nepali Rudraksha for maximum benefit. > > > > Om Shreem!!! > > > > Y/s, Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects, "alstrup" <alstrup> > wrote: > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > Pranams Dandavats > > > > > > I read a very interesting piece you wrote at the RSBC group > which was > > > also published at > > > > > > http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com/articledt.php?art_id=203 > > > > > > I wanted to ask you if there is any conflict of interest > according > > > to Gaudiya Vaishnavism to wear Rudraksha and Tulasi at the same > time? > > > > > > I am asking because some Rudraksha beads give more material > > > blessings while Srimate Tulasi wants to give pure devotion to > > > Krishna. > > > > > > I have all Nepali Rudraksha beads up to 14 mukhi in genuine > > > collector size offered to Aghora Face of Lord Pashupatinath in > Nepal. > > > > > > But I discovered I have problems wearing Tulasi and Rudraksha at > the > > > same time, it feels like there is a energetic conflict of > interest. > > > I wonder if it because the rasa is different? > > > > > > The reason why I started wearing Rudraksha beads was to appeal to > > > Lord Shiva to improve my material circumstances. Maybe this is > not > > > possible when trying to become a devotee of Lord Krishna? > > > > > > Do you wear Tulasi and Rusraksha at the same time? > > > > > > I tried to discuss more in detail about this at the Open > Rudraksha > > > , but unfortunately the discussion eventually turned > into > > > an attack on Gaudiya Vaishnavism. > > > > > > But if you read these two postings below, you would get the > details > > > of what I was trying to convey: > > > > > > /message/1176 > > > /message/1194 > > > > > > I would really appreciate your comments. I have long been > searching > > > for a Vaishnava with experience in this field. > > > > > > Thank you for any help, > > > > > > Ys, Ole > > > Richard Shaw-Brown, PG Designer & Gemologist http://www.richardshawbrown.com http://www.agt-gems.com http://www.astralgemstonetalismans.com http://www.themisunderstood.com http://www.hrisikesh.com http://www.hrisikesh.net http://www.p-g-a.org http://www.satyavrat-shastri.net http://www.generalprem.com http://www.navaratna-museum.info http://www.sacred-objects.info Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 sir, pls call me aadi. you are a highly alankrit vyaktitva. i seek only knowledge from you....no alankars or adjectives to my name please... with utmost regards to you aadi -- In sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66> wrote: > > Dear Sriman Aadiji, > > Karma misra Bhakti is the yukta vairagya Krishna mentions. If anyone is > really so concerned with salvation and ending janma-mrityu-jara- vyadi > Samsar Chakra then they should take that up exclusivily, believing that > God is the only provider and protector, like a life of bhajan. The > Nirvriti-marga. Stop making new karma, to be replaiced by > sadhana-bhajan under guidance of a bona fide sampradaya - "sampradhaya > vina ye mantraste viphala mata" ---That mantra not received through a > bona fide parampara is fruitless. > > Best regards, > Richard > > Tulasi doesn't concern with vairagya. Tyag comes from Sukriti > --- aadi291 <aadi291> wrote: > > > but richardsir, i agree with you on this vishnu thought. > > but i was surprised to find that some people feel that tulsi would > > grant them renunciation! yes, tulsi signifies pure devotion, but > > lord vishnu is the giver or all material comforts. > > i agree with the roopa puja. the seeker gets the benefits of the > > form he worships..tirupathi balaji and shree nathji of rajasthan are > > known to bestow tremendous wordly riches. other vishnu forms may not > > do as much. they will give as their roopa symbolises. narasimhavatar > > for eg. > > yes, brahmagyan gives vairagyam. this is something which bhagwan > > shankar's bhakti might give.. though He in the form a vishuddha > > pardeshwar shivling or a high-powered rudraksh bead may give you all > > that is needed in a material world. > > but as the shastras and saints say, one should not differentiate > > between hari and har. in harihar, there is no dwait or dualism. > > the lord takes avatar in a particular yug to take care of the > > problems in that particular era. that does not mean that bhagwan > > vishnu is great and bhagwan shiv is not or some such thing. > > parbrahma is the ultimate element. > > in india, i was surprised to hear some acclaimed experts of vastu or > > other things saying that rudraksh will not give you much money. the > > whole language is wrong. > > as phadkeji says, true devotee wont ask for anything from the lord. > > i would say, he would worship tulsi, rudraksha, valampuri shaligram > > with the true devotion of a bhakti. these things are certain to give > > their benefits but why worry about it? > > > > -- In sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown" > > <rsbj66> wrote: > > > Dear Ole, > > > > > > In short, there is not a conflict of interest if one walks the > > straight and middle > > > path. If you want to be a tyagi Vaishnava, full of misery, then > > just offend Lord > > > Shiva by ignoring His blessings. Lord Shiva is the GREATEST > > Vaishnava, as > > > well as being one of the Trimurti, and He is said to be God as > > yougurt is milk. > > > > > > Many people are afraid to become Vaishnavas because they fear > > material > > > ruination. This is not the case. Vishnu is not ones ill- wisher. > > God has better > > > things to do than cause his devotees to be in poverty. In fact, > > His consort is the > > > Goddess of Fortune Herself. > > > > > > Lord Hari doesn't even recriprocate unless He is approached > > (asked). Just as > > > ghee is in the cow's body but there is no benefit to the cow; it > > is by milking the > > > cow, creating ghee, and feeding the gree to the cow that it > > derives benefit. In > > > the same way God is in everyone, but He normally doesn't act > > unless > > > requested to do so (prayer). > > > > > > I wear a Tulasi neck mala complete with a 14 mukhi Rudraksha. And > > there is > > > no conflict. Tulasi is fine and Rudraksha is fine. FINE+FINE=FINE. > > > > > > Lord Krishna taught Yukta Vairagya, or balanced life, not poverty. > > We must be > > > self sufficent and not be a burden. And for material and spiritual > > blessings > > > Rudraksha is the most recommended talisman in the Shastras. It is > > the > > > ultimate Hindu talisman, and is available to all, rich and poor. > > > > > > My suggestion is that you wear only ONE Rudraksha bead of your > > choice for > > > good luck. And Lord Shiva is happy to grant well-being to those > > who respect > > > and take advantage of His greatness. I think you are wearing too > > many > > > Rudraksha. If you want a Rudraksha that is best for Hari Bhakti > > then use a > > > single Dos (10) Mukhi. If you want relief from problems then wear > > a 14 mukhi. > > > > > > You only need ONE good Nepali Rudraksha to compliment your Tulasi. > > Be > > > sure to use Nepali Rudraksha for maximum benefit. > > > > > > Om Shreem!!! > > > > > > Y/s, Richard > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "alstrup" <alstrup> > > wrote: > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > > > Pranams Dandavats > > > > > > > > I read a very interesting piece you wrote at the RSBC group > > which was > > > > also published at > > > > > > > > http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com/articledt.php?art_id=203 > > > > > > > > I wanted to ask you if there is any conflict of interest > > according > > > > to Gaudiya Vaishnavism to wear Rudraksha and Tulasi at the same > > time? > > > > > > > > I am asking because some Rudraksha beads give more material > > > > blessings while Srimate Tulasi wants to give pure devotion to > > > > Krishna. > > > > > > > > I have all Nepali Rudraksha beads up to 14 mukhi in genuine > > > > collector size offered to Aghora Face of Lord Pashupatinath in > > Nepal. > > > > > > > > But I discovered I have problems wearing Tulasi and Rudraksha at > > the > > > > same time, it feels like there is a energetic conflict of > > interest. > > > > I wonder if it because the rasa is different? > > > > > > > > The reason why I started wearing Rudraksha beads was to appeal to > > > > Lord Shiva to improve my material circumstances. Maybe this is > > not > > > > possible when trying to become a devotee of Lord Krishna? > > > > > > > > Do you wear Tulasi and Rusraksha at the same time? > > > > > > > > I tried to discuss more in detail about this at the Open > > Rudraksha > > > > , but unfortunately the discussion eventually turned > > into > > > > an attack on Gaudiya Vaishnavism. > > > > > > > > But if you read these two postings below, you would get the > > details > > > > of what I was trying to convey: > > > > > > > > /message/1176 > > > > /message/1194 > > > > > > > > I would really appreciate your comments. I have long been > > searching > > > > for a Vaishnava with experience in this field. > > > > > > > > Thank you for any help, > > > > > > > > Ys, Ole > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown, PG > Designer & Gemologist > http://www.richardshawbrown.com > http://www.agt-gems.com > http://www.astralgemstonetalismans.com > http://www.themisunderstood.com > http://www.hrisikesh.com > http://www.hrisikesh.net > http://www.p-g-a.org > http://www.satyavrat-shastri.net > http://www.generalprem.com > http://www.navaratna-museum.info > http://www.sacred-objects.info > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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