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Dear Sriman Aadiji,

 

Karma misra Bhakti is the yukta vairagya Krishna mentions. If anyone is

really so concerned with salvation and ending janma-mrityu-jara-vyadi

Samsar Chakra then they should take that up exclusivily, believing that

God is the only provider and protector, like a life of bhajan. The

Nirvriti-marga. Stop making new karma, to be replaiced by

sadhana-bhajan under guidance of a bona fide sampradaya - "sampradhaya

vina ye mantraste viphala mata" ---That mantra not received through a

bona fide parampara is fruitless.

 

Best regards,

Richard

 

Tulasi doesn't concern with vairagya. Tyag comes from Sukriti

--- aadi291 <aadi291 wrote:

 

> but richardsir, i agree with you on this vishnu thought.

> but i was surprised to find that some people feel that tulsi would

> grant them renunciation! yes, tulsi signifies pure devotion, but

> lord vishnu is the giver or all material comforts.

> i agree with the roopa puja. the seeker gets the benefits of the

> form he worships..tirupathi balaji and shree nathji of rajasthan are

> known to bestow tremendous wordly riches. other vishnu forms may not

> do as much. they will give as their roopa symbolises. narasimhavatar

> for eg.

> yes, brahmagyan gives vairagyam. this is something which bhagwan

> shankar's bhakti might give.. though He in the form a vishuddha

> pardeshwar shivling or a high-powered rudraksh bead may give you all

> that is needed in a material world.

> but as the shastras and saints say, one should not differentiate

> between hari and har. in harihar, there is no dwait or dualism.

> the lord takes avatar in a particular yug to take care of the

> problems in that particular era. that does not mean that bhagwan

> vishnu is great and bhagwan shiv is not or some such thing.

> parbrahma is the ultimate element.

> in india, i was surprised to hear some acclaimed experts of vastu or

> other things saying that rudraksh will not give you much money. the

> whole language is wrong.

> as phadkeji says, true devotee wont ask for anything from the lord.

> i would say, he would worship tulsi, rudraksha, valampuri shaligram

> with the true devotion of a bhakti. these things are certain to give

> their benefits but why worry about it?

>

> -- In sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown"

> <rsbj66> wrote:

> > Dear Ole,

> >

> > In short, there is not a conflict of interest if one walks the

> straight and middle

> > path. If you want to be a tyagi Vaishnava, full of misery, then

> just offend Lord

> > Shiva by ignoring His blessings. Lord Shiva is the GREATEST

> Vaishnava, as

> > well as being one of the Trimurti, and He is said to be God as

> yougurt is milk.

> >

> > Many people are afraid to become Vaishnavas because they fear

> material

> > ruination. This is not the case. Vishnu is not ones ill-wisher.

> God has better

> > things to do than cause his devotees to be in poverty. In fact,

> His consort is the

> > Goddess of Fortune Herself.

> >

> > Lord Hari doesn't even recriprocate unless He is approached

> (asked). Just as

> > ghee is in the cow's body but there is no benefit to the cow; it

> is by milking the

> > cow, creating ghee, and feeding the gree to the cow that it

> derives benefit. In

> > the same way God is in everyone, but He normally doesn't act

> unless

> > requested to do so (prayer).

> >

> > I wear a Tulasi neck mala complete with a 14 mukhi Rudraksha. And

> there is

> > no conflict. Tulasi is fine and Rudraksha is fine. FINE+FINE=FINE.

> >

> > Lord Krishna taught Yukta Vairagya, or balanced life, not poverty.

> We must be

> > self sufficent and not be a burden. And for material and spiritual

> blessings

> > Rudraksha is the most recommended talisman in the Shastras. It is

> the

> > ultimate Hindu talisman, and is available to all, rich and poor.

> >

> > My suggestion is that you wear only ONE Rudraksha bead of your

> choice for

> > good luck. And Lord Shiva is happy to grant well-being to those

> who respect

> > and take advantage of His greatness. I think you are wearing too

> many

> > Rudraksha. If you want a Rudraksha that is best for Hari Bhakti

> then use a

> > single Dos (10) Mukhi. If you want relief from problems then wear

> a 14 mukhi.

> >

> > You only need ONE good Nepali Rudraksha to compliment your Tulasi.

> Be

> > sure to use Nepali Rudraksha for maximum benefit.

> >

> > Om Shreem!!!

> >

> > Y/s, Richard

> >

> >

> > sacred-objects, "alstrup" <alstrup>

> wrote:

> > > Dear Richard,

> > >

> > > Pranams Dandavats

> > >

> > > I read a very interesting piece you wrote at the RSBC group

> which was

> > > also published at

> > >

> > > http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com/articledt.php?art_id=203

> > >

> > > I wanted to ask you if there is any conflict of interest

> according

> > > to Gaudiya Vaishnavism to wear Rudraksha and Tulasi at the same

> time?

> > >

> > > I am asking because some Rudraksha beads give more material

> > > blessings while Srimate Tulasi wants to give pure devotion to

> > > Krishna.

> > >

> > > I have all Nepali Rudraksha beads up to 14 mukhi in genuine

> > > collector size offered to Aghora Face of Lord Pashupatinath in

> Nepal.

> > >

> > > But I discovered I have problems wearing Tulasi and Rudraksha at

> the

> > > same time, it feels like there is a energetic conflict of

> interest.

> > > I wonder if it because the rasa is different?

> > >

> > > The reason why I started wearing Rudraksha beads was to appeal to

> > > Lord Shiva to improve my material circumstances. Maybe this is

> not

> > > possible when trying to become a devotee of Lord Krishna?

> > >

> > > Do you wear Tulasi and Rusraksha at the same time?

> > >

> > > I tried to discuss more in detail about this at the Open

> Rudraksha

> > > , but unfortunately the discussion eventually turned

> into

> > > an attack on Gaudiya Vaishnavism.

> > >

> > > But if you read these two postings below, you would get the

> details

> > > of what I was trying to convey:

> > >

> > > /message/1176

> > > /message/1194

> > >

> > > I would really appreciate your comments. I have long been

> searching

> > > for a Vaishnava with experience in this field.

> > >

> > > Thank you for any help,

> > >

> > > Ys, Ole

>

>

>

 

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sir, pls call me aadi. you are a highly alankrit vyaktitva. i seek

only knowledge from you....no alankars or adjectives to my name

please...

with utmost regards to you

aadi

 

 

 

 

-- In sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown

<rsbj66> wrote:

>

> Dear Sriman Aadiji,

>

> Karma misra Bhakti is the yukta vairagya Krishna mentions. If

anyone is

> really so concerned with salvation and ending janma-mrityu-jara-

vyadi

> Samsar Chakra then they should take that up exclusivily, believing

that

> God is the only provider and protector, like a life of bhajan. The

> Nirvriti-marga. Stop making new karma, to be replaiced by

> sadhana-bhajan under guidance of a bona fide sampradaya -

"sampradhaya

> vina ye mantraste viphala mata" ---That mantra not received

through a

> bona fide parampara is fruitless.

>

> Best regards,

> Richard

>

> Tulasi doesn't concern with vairagya. Tyag comes from Sukriti

> --- aadi291 <aadi291> wrote:

>

> > but richardsir, i agree with you on this vishnu thought.

> > but i was surprised to find that some people feel that tulsi

would

> > grant them renunciation! yes, tulsi signifies pure devotion, but

> > lord vishnu is the giver or all material comforts.

> > i agree with the roopa puja. the seeker gets the benefits of the

> > form he worships..tirupathi balaji and shree nathji of rajasthan

are

> > known to bestow tremendous wordly riches. other vishnu forms may

not

> > do as much. they will give as their roopa symbolises.

narasimhavatar

> > for eg.

> > yes, brahmagyan gives vairagyam. this is something which bhagwan

> > shankar's bhakti might give.. though He in the form a vishuddha

> > pardeshwar shivling or a high-powered rudraksh bead may give you

all

> > that is needed in a material world.

> > but as the shastras and saints say, one should not differentiate

> > between hari and har. in harihar, there is no dwait or dualism.

> > the lord takes avatar in a particular yug to take care of the

> > problems in that particular era. that does not mean that bhagwan

> > vishnu is great and bhagwan shiv is not or some such thing.

> > parbrahma is the ultimate element.

> > in india, i was surprised to hear some acclaimed experts of

vastu or

> > other things saying that rudraksh will not give you much money.

the

> > whole language is wrong.

> > as phadkeji says, true devotee wont ask for anything from the

lord.

> > i would say, he would worship tulsi, rudraksha, valampuri

shaligram

> > with the true devotion of a bhakti. these things are certain to

give

> > their benefits but why worry about it?

> >

> > -- In sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown"

> > <rsbj66> wrote:

> > > Dear Ole,

> > >

> > > In short, there is not a conflict of interest if one walks the

> > straight and middle

> > > path. If you want to be a tyagi Vaishnava, full of misery,

then

> > just offend Lord

> > > Shiva by ignoring His blessings. Lord Shiva is the GREATEST

> > Vaishnava, as

> > > well as being one of the Trimurti, and He is said to be God as

> > yougurt is milk.

> > >

> > > Many people are afraid to become Vaishnavas because they fear

> > material

> > > ruination. This is not the case. Vishnu is not ones ill-

wisher.

> > God has better

> > > things to do than cause his devotees to be in poverty. In

fact,

> > His consort is the

> > > Goddess of Fortune Herself.

> > >

> > > Lord Hari doesn't even recriprocate unless He is approached

> > (asked). Just as

> > > ghee is in the cow's body but there is no benefit to the cow;

it

> > is by milking the

> > > cow, creating ghee, and feeding the gree to the cow that it

> > derives benefit. In

> > > the same way God is in everyone, but He normally doesn't act

> > unless

> > > requested to do so (prayer).

> > >

> > > I wear a Tulasi neck mala complete with a 14 mukhi Rudraksha.

And

> > there is

> > > no conflict. Tulasi is fine and Rudraksha is fine.

FINE+FINE=FINE.

> > >

> > > Lord Krishna taught Yukta Vairagya, or balanced life, not

poverty.

> > We must be

> > > self sufficent and not be a burden. And for material and

spiritual

> > blessings

> > > Rudraksha is the most recommended talisman in the Shastras. It

is

> > the

> > > ultimate Hindu talisman, and is available to all, rich and

poor.

> > >

> > > My suggestion is that you wear only ONE Rudraksha bead of your

> > choice for

> > > good luck. And Lord Shiva is happy to grant well-being to

those

> > who respect

> > > and take advantage of His greatness. I think you are wearing

too

> > many

> > > Rudraksha. If you want a Rudraksha that is best for Hari

Bhakti

> > then use a

> > > single Dos (10) Mukhi. If you want relief from problems then

wear

> > a 14 mukhi.

> > >

> > > You only need ONE good Nepali Rudraksha to compliment your

Tulasi.

> > Be

> > > sure to use Nepali Rudraksha for maximum benefit.

> > >

> > > Om Shreem!!!

> > >

> > > Y/s, Richard

> > >

> > >

> > > sacred-objects, "alstrup"

<alstrup>

> > wrote:

> > > > Dear Richard,

> > > >

> > > > Pranams Dandavats

> > > >

> > > > I read a very interesting piece you wrote at the RSBC group

> > which was

> > > > also published at

> > > >

> > > > http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com/articledt.php?art_id=203

> > > >

> > > > I wanted to ask you if there is any conflict of interest

> > according

> > > > to Gaudiya Vaishnavism to wear Rudraksha and Tulasi at the

same

> > time?

> > > >

> > > > I am asking because some Rudraksha beads give more material

> > > > blessings while Srimate Tulasi wants to give pure devotion to

> > > > Krishna.

> > > >

> > > > I have all Nepali Rudraksha beads up to 14 mukhi in genuine

> > > > collector size offered to Aghora Face of Lord Pashupatinath

in

> > Nepal.

> > > >

> > > > But I discovered I have problems wearing Tulasi and

Rudraksha at

> > the

> > > > same time, it feels like there is a energetic conflict of

> > interest.

> > > > I wonder if it because the rasa is different?

> > > >

> > > > The reason why I started wearing Rudraksha beads was to

appeal to

> > > > Lord Shiva to improve my material circumstances. Maybe this

is

> > not

> > > > possible when trying to become a devotee of Lord Krishna?

> > > >

> > > > Do you wear Tulasi and Rusraksha at the same time?

> > > >

> > > > I tried to discuss more in detail about this at the Open

> > Rudraksha

> > > > , but unfortunately the discussion eventually

turned

> > into

> > > > an attack on Gaudiya Vaishnavism.

> > > >

> > > > But if you read these two postings below, you would get the

> > details

> > > > of what I was trying to convey:

> > > >

> > > > /message/1176

> > > > /message/1194

> > > >

> > > > I would really appreciate your comments. I have long been

> > searching

> > > > for a Vaishnava with experience in this field.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for any help,

> > > >

> > > > Ys, Ole

> >

> >

> >

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown, PG

> Designer & Gemologist

> http://www.richardshawbrown.com

> http://www.agt-gems.com

> http://www.astralgemstonetalismans.com

> http://www.themisunderstood.com

> http://www.hrisikesh.com

> http://www.hrisikesh.net

> http://www.p-g-a.org

> http://www.satyavrat-shastri.net

> http://www.generalprem.com

> http://www.navaratna-museum.info

> http://www.sacred-objects.info

>

> Send instant messages to your online friends

http://uk.messenger.

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