Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Om Namah Shivaya Namaste, It is indeed the grace of Shiva that I worship Shiva and am wearing a Rudraksha today. I bought a 12mukhi from Sri Arjun Pandit-ji and on the very first day, I could tell the subtle impact of the Rudraksha. By subtle impact I mean, serenity and peace in mind and harmony in the house. There is nothing greater in this world then a calm, thinking mind. Such a mind is fit for Karma yoga and further antahakaran shuddhi. The physical impact of the 12mukhi was a dull pain in the chest for a day or 2 and it was due to power emanating from the anahat chakra. After that, the body gets used to the power and no pain in the chest. My humble pranams to the Shiva in Sri Arjun Pandit-ji and the Lord of wisdom - Lord Dakshinamurthy. with regards, Om Namah Shivaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Om Namah Shivaya. I second that. I also bought my 12-mukhi Rudraksha from pandit Arjun-ji after he recommended one to me and after that, a thrilling synchronous incident that happened to me (I am hesitant to reveal that in a public forum). There have no extraordinary changes in my external life yet (approx a month after wearing the rudraksha), but I can feel my mental agitations calming more and more and my responsiveness to life and people getting better and better. I may be imagining (viz., I can't prove it with an objective finality), but I think people have also noted the change in me. I am not complaining at all! Jai Ma! , "mahadevadvaita" <mahadevadvaita wrote: > > Om Namah Shivaya > Namaste, It is indeed the grace of Shiva that I worship Shiva and am > wearing a Rudraksha today. I bought a 12mukhi from Sri Arjun > Pandit-ji and on the very first day, I could tell the subtle impact > of the Rudraksha. By subtle impact I mean, serenity and peace in > mind and harmony in the house. There is nothing greater in this > world then a calm, thinking mind. Such a mind is fit for Karma yoga > and further antahakaran shuddhi. The physical impact of the 12mukhi > was a dull pain in the chest for a day or 2 and it was due to power > emanating from the anahat chakra. After that, the body gets used to > the power and no pain in the chest. > > My humble pranams to the Shiva in Sri Arjun Pandit-ji and the Lord > of wisdom - Lord Dakshinamurthy. > > with regards, > Om Namah Shivaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 mind is fit for Karma yoga and further antahakaran shuddhi. The physical impact of the 12mukhi was a dull pain in the chest for a day or 2 and it was due to power emanating from the anahat chakra. After that, the body gets used to the power and no pain in the chest.My humble pranams to the Shiva in Sri Arjun Pandit-ji and the Lord of wisdom - Lord Dakshinamurthy.with regards,Om Namah Shivaya Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 People say many things. Some people say one thing and some people say another. There is no one right answer. It all depends on your point of view and your approach. Do what feels right to you. - sesha srinivas Monday, April 24, 2006 10:07 PM Re: Power of Rudraksha Om Namah Shivaya, I need a clarification regarding Rudraksha. I am wearing a Panchamukhi rudraksha from past 7 years. Some people say we are not supposed to wear rudraksha while we go to bed and when we are going to have intercourse with woman. Is it true?? plz clarify. Sarvejana Sukhino Bhavantu. Om Namah Shivayamahadevadvaita <mahadevadvaita > wrote: Om Namah ShivayaNamaste, It is indeed the grace of Shiva that I worship Shiva and am wearing a Rudraksha today. I bought a 12mukhi from Sri Arjun Pandit-ji and on the very first day, I could tell the subtle impact of the Rudraksha. By subtle impact I mean, serenity and peace in mind and harmony in the house. There is nothing greater in this world then a calm, thinking mind. Such a mind is fit for Karma yoga and further antahakaran shuddhi. The physical impact of the 12mukhi was a dull pain in the chest for a day or 2 and it was due to power emanating from the anahat chakra. After that, the body gets used to the power and no pain in the chest.My humble pranams to the Shiva in Sri Arjun Pandit-ji and the Lord of wisdom - Lord Dakshinamurthy.with regards,Om Namah Shivaya Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Namaskaram to all... The THALI and Rudraksha can not be compared... Thali is from a metal... and there is the purity and impurities of the metal is there. Rudraksha is entirely different. It has so many powers, before we use, we purifies it, to make suitable to the body which wears it... There is so many powers to Rudraksha which is not yet found by us. I would like to know the Pandit's answer on this. I hope sure there is a reason, to avoid wearing the Rudraksha in impure stages... We always question the fact... curiosity to know more.. finding the truth is not wrong... But the comparisson should be in between equal items... This is not an apple to apple comparisson... Thali is holy thing... But it has its own identity.. but not equal to rudraksha... in my opinion, it is very bad we compare these two. I am not arguing, and i dont have that much knowledge too. I wish if pandit answer this... ram mohan anantha pai <pairamblr > wrote: namaskarams to all, Sri Ramaswmy has expressed some opinion , and for sure, he is free to have his opinion. I have no idea or view on this subject as i am ignorant of this. However, i have a point to bring to the notice - When Sri Ramaswamy asked the question to many, none could answer. I am sure we can understand that. But, getting no answere from a few makes it right or wrong? If Sri Ramaswamy is eager to find out the answere, then he should purse the matter...there are so many organisations websites where he could raise this subject..and after all that if he is not satisfied he still can ask in which book this subject is dealt with and explore. Our ignorance should not be the law. In a class if majority write wrong answers that does not make the right answer wrong.. We are all in the process of learning and the learning goes on and on...one is free to pursue, or discard ...it is ones will...ones conscious decision ..... prasadarao madhunapantula <prasadaraom > wrote: Dear learned Pranams. I think it is not wise or prudent to express these sort of individual opinions fearlessly among elders - Kaliyuga dharma may be provoking for such statements. If everyone is right in their thinking & doing then where is the necessity of learning or consulting elders or Sastras ? Freedom has a inherent 'POWER'like Praana - just as prana sustains all jeeva freedom is Nature's Dhaarma sakti. It has to be judiciously used. The comparison of Rudraksha and Thaali in one plane, I think, is not correct -their significance & purpose are different. M.B.Prasada Rao, Visakhapatnam. --- Thanasegar Ramasamy <arsenal_sucks > wrote: > Do what you feel that is right to you. The problem > here is when people say things, they never give > proper > explanations. > > Why should one not wear to bed, since you never know > when you might have intercourse in bed, so thats one > reason for not wearing it in bed. > > But the same thing can be questioned here again, if > a > men cant wear his rudraksha to bed, which its > considered holy, then a Thaali thats considered > holy, > how can it be worn to bed? > > I've asked this question to many people an non could > answer me. > > Its all up to an indivdual on what is right or wrong > to you. It is you whom has to decide. > > --- Mahamuni <mahamuni (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: > > > People say many things. Some people say one thing > > and some people say another. There is no one > right > > answer. It all depends on your point of view and > > your approach. Do what feels right to you. > > - > > sesha srinivas > > > > Monday, April 24, 2006 10:07 PM > > Re: Power of > > Rudraksha > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > I need a clarification regarding Rudraksha. I am > > wearing a Panchamukhi rudraksha from past 7 years. > > Some people say we are not supposed to wear > > rudraksha while we go to bed and when we are going > > to have intercourse with woman. Is it true?? plz > > clarify. > > > > Sarvejana Sukhino Bhavantu. > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > mahadevadvaita <mahadevadvaita > wrote: > > Om Namah Shivaya > > Namaste, It is indeed the grace of Shiva that > I > > worship Shiva and am > > wearing a Rudraksha today. I bought a 12mukhi > > from Sri Arjun Pandit-ji > > and on the very first day, I could tell the > > subtle impact of the > > Rudraksha. By subtle impact I mean, serenity > and > > peace in mind and > > harmony in the house. There is nothing greater > > in this world then a > > calm, thinking mind. Such a mind is fit for > > Karma yoga and further > > antahakaran shuddhi. The physical impact of > the > > 12mukhi was a dull > > pain in the chest for a day or 2 and it was > due > > to power emanating > > from the anahat chakra. After that, the body > > gets used to the power > > and no pain in the chest. > > > > My humble pranams to the Shiva in Sri Arjun > > Pandit-ji and the Lord of > > wisdom - Lord Dakshinamurthy. > > > > with regards, > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your > > buddies all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" > > on the web. > > > > b.. To from this group, send an > > email to: > > > > > > > > c.. Your use of is subject to > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Om Namah Shivaaya Can someone tell me from what writing this quote is from. <<here i repeat the old wise saying which i quoted earlier also: yukti yuktam vako grahyam baladapi sukadapi yukti heenam vako tyajyam vruddhadapi sukadapi>> forgive my ignorance. I am new to the group. I like it very much , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > dear shiv bhakts > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > firstly we appreciate the way each member is expressing his views > and opinions with respect and polite language even while disagreeing > with another member's posts. as shankaracharyaji demonstrated to > chandaal and as mahamuni ji said in this message, there is no > impurity for the same atma that dwells in each human. this is the > reason why most shiv bhakts realise that shiva is there in all other > members and duly respect by saying "i bow to the shiva in you". > even if the scriptures laid down certain rules and regulations, they > change according to the desha, kala, vartamana partisthiti which is > clearly written in these scriptures. > > today most of the educated indians are settled abroad where they > find less time for rituals, so they are taking simple mantras like > om namah shivaya, wear rudraksha and visit temples on holidays. so > the freedom or choice is there for each human and we are not here to > impose any code of conduct. > > these days every one started asking for demonstration of evidence to > support any thing we write from the puranas or classics. every one > knew that the yugas happened several lakhs years ago. all the vedas > and puranas were taught by word of mouth from a guru to shishya. no > written bhojpatra books were distributed or sold. it is only in the > medieval days that these books were written as per the then scholars > who learnt these scriptures from thier gurus. people kept changing > these scriptures in their next printed editions. the constitution > of this country is getting changed several times which can be > equated to manusmriti which must have changed. in this context, the > manusmriti has no bearing in today's changed world scenario. so one > shall refer the scriptures for knowing in depth knowledge of the > practices prevailed but not to impose any code of conduct. if all > christians have followed the strict rules and regulations written in > the Holy Bible, none of their countries like US, Europe, Japan and > Australia would have been developed. > > here i repeat the old wise saying which i quoted earlier also: > > yukti yuktam vako grahyam baladapi sukadapi > yukti heenam vako tyajyam vruddhadapi sukadapi > > whatever is LOGICAL or with REASONING ought to be accept even if > told by a boy or a parrot. > whatever is ILLOGICAL or without REASONING ought to be rejected even > if told by a old man or by sage suka. > > so shiv bhakts, you read hundreds of messages and each has to apply > his or her own logic and reasoning to accept or reject anything > expressed by others. yet every one respects the shiva in others and > we say "i bow to the shiva in you". > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > pandit arjun > > , "Mahamuni" > <mahamuni@> wrote: > > > > Prasadarao Ji, > > > > Let me answer this to your comments: > > > > It all depends on your point of view. Let me expound a bit on > this. > > > > First of all, different scriptures say different things. > Sometimes they are completely conflicting, sometimes not. So just > saying well it says so in such and such sastra, is not really a > reason to speak definitively on the subject for all people at all > times. Though of course, if it works for you, you can always follow > what it says. > > > > Next, all these current written scriptures have come much later > than the oral traditions of this information. These written > scriptures were not meant to be studied outside of that Guru > Parampara because there are so many subtleties and things that need > explaining. To further complicate that situation, not only are > there different versions of many scriptures, but different oral > lineages state different things as well. > > > > So the best thing to do, is follow what your Guru has to say on > the subject and what feels right for you. > > > > Now regarding the example of Ravan that you gave. You call him an > Asura and describe him as inhuman and that he was punished. Now > that is entirely true from one point of view. But there are other > points of view on the subject. > > > > Another point of view looks at Ravan at one of the greatest > devotees of the Lord and a Great Yogi. Asuras can be thought of as > another race, not just as demons. Hey, Lord Shiva loves to keep > their company, so how bad could they be? He did incredible Tapas to > achieve the Darshan and Boon of Lord Shiva. He was always thinking > of Ram. In fact, Ravan was such a great devotee that the Lord > Himself, Incarnate in a human form, came and gave him liberation by > crushing him at his heart area under His Lotus Foot. Think about > that. He didn't even just shoot him. He placed his Lotus Foot, the > source of worship where His energy comes out, and put it on Ravan's > heart and released his soul from his body. Hey, I'll take that > punishment anyday! > > > > I could go on, but I think this point is explained fairly enough. > In a similiar fashion, some do sadhanas in the cremation grounds. > Some eat meat. Some even use sexual acts as part of their sadhana. > Some make their whole life their sadhana. So what is impure for one > is pure for another, dependent on the point of view. It doesn't > make one person right and the other wrong. Both are right, for > their own lives, which is all you can worry about and be concerned > with. Live and let live. Let us just decide what is right for us > and then do that. Let us not comment on what is right for another > or tell them that they are wrong, unless they are come and asking us > for advice. Then we can express our point of view and they can see > if it works for them. > > > > Are you the body or are you the Atma? The Atma is part of the > Paramatma, so how could it ever become impure? It can't. The body > is just Bhu. It is the Earth. It will either become dirt again or > it will become Vibhuti/Bhasma. Both of these are also pure--at > least from my point of view. > > > > Pranams and Blessings, > > > > Surya > > > > > > - > > prasadarao madhunapantula > > > > Friday, April 28, 2006 12:10 AM > > Re: Power of Rudraksha > > > > > > Respected mahamuni and learned - pranams. > > with my limited knowledge & understanding I have, I > > would like to state this regarding your statement > > "God/Goddess sees all anyway, so how could any act be > > "impure"? ". > > GOD/GODDESS is ALMIGHTY and sudhdha tatwa. > > Its only for human this dwandwa bhava of pure or > > impure > > good or bad is applicable. So these dos & donts are > > prescribed in sastra for humans to srictly believe & > > follow sincerely. Almighty has seen actions of > > Rama(ideal human) as well as Ravana(Aasura > > -inhuman)and so Rama was rewarded and Ravana was > > punished as we read history. Let us develop faith in > > those results. > > I stand to be corrected pl. > > M.B.Prasada Rao, Visakhapatnam > > > > --- Mahamuni <mahamuni@> wrote: > > > > > Here is the explanation of why some people say you > > > shouldn't wear your rudraksha to sleep, during sex, > > > and while defecating (some say even while > > > urinating), while drinking alcohol, while eating > > > garlic and onions, and while eating non-veg food: > > > > > > These are really grouped into two types. The first > > > is sex and going to the bathroom. During both these > > > actions, prana/energy is leaving the body, and > > > through the lower gates, so the body is said to then > > > experience "impurity". One is prescribed to take a > > > bath after. > > > > > > The other things on the list, including sleep, fall > > > into the category of actions that are tamasic in > > > nature. Again leading to a state of impurity. > > > > > > The whole idea of not wearing your rudraksha during > > > these actions is so as to not subject it to these > > > "impure" vibrations which occur during these > > > actions. We want our rudraksha to just keep getting > > > charged with positive vibrations and not assaulted > > > with "negative" ones, or even ones that aren't our > > > own, like letting someone else touch it. > > > > > > One is suggested to not even walk into the bathroom > > > area while wearing the rudraksha, as this place is a > > > place where this type of "impure" act is done again > > > and again so it is permeated with those vibrations. > > > The same as how a meditation room/area becomes > > > filled with holy, spiritual, uplifting vibrations > > > and Shakti. > > > > > > Now one has to decide how they want to go from here. > > > Many people say many different things, like you > > > shouldn't wear a mala you do japa on. Some say of > > > course you should. > > > > > > God/Goddess sees all anyway, so how could any act be > > > "impure"? It is a point of view. Still there are > > > benefits to following certain practices and a > > > certain effect results from them. You have to > > > experience yourself and decide from there. > > > > > > Bom Mahadev! > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > - > > > Thanasegar Ramasamy > > > > > > Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:08 PM > > > Re: Power of > > > Rudraksha > > > > > > > > > Do what you feel that is right to you. The problem > > > here is when people say things, they never give > > > proper > > > explanations. > > > > > > Why should one not wear to bed, since you never > > > know > > > when you might have intercourse in bed, so thats > > > one > > > reason for not wearing it in bed. > > > > > > But the same thing can be questioned here again, > > > if a > > > men cant wear his rudraksha to bed, which its > > > considered holy, then a Thaali thats considered > > > holy, > > > how can it be worn to bed? > > > > > > I've asked this question to many people an non > > > could > > > answer me. > > > > > > Its all up to an indivdual on what is right or > > > wrong > > > to you. It is you whom has to decide. > > > > > > --- Mahamuni <mahamuni@> wrote: > > > > > > > People say many things. Some people say one > > > thing > > > > and some people say another. There is no one > > > right > > > > answer. It all depends on your point of view > > > and > > > > your approach. Do what feels right to you. > > > > - > > > > sesha srinivas > > > > > > > > Monday, April 24, 2006 10:07 PM > > > > Re: Power of > > > > Rudraksha > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > > > > > I need a clarification regarding Rudraksha. I > > > am > > > > wearing a Panchamukhi rudraksha from past 7 > > > years. > > > > Some people say we are not supposed to wear > > > > rudraksha while we go to bed and when we are > > > going > > > > to have intercourse with woman. Is it true?? plz > > > > clarify. > > > > > > > > Sarvejana Sukhino Bhavantu. > > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > mahadevadvaita <mahadevadvaita@> > > > wrote: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > Namaste, It is indeed the grace of Shiva > > > that I > > > > worship Shiva and am > > > > wearing a Rudraksha today. I bought a > > > 12mukhi > > > > from Sri Arjun Pandit-ji > > > > and on the very first day, I could tell the > > > > subtle impact of the > > > > Rudraksha. By subtle impact I mean, serenity > > > and > > > > peace in mind and > > > > harmony in the house. There is nothing > > > greater > > > > in this world then a > > > > calm, thinking mind. Such a mind is fit for > > > > Karma yoga and further > > > > antahakaran shuddhi. The physical impact of > > > the > > > > 12mukhi was a dull > > > > pain in the chest for a day or 2 and it was > > > due > > > > to power emanating > > > > from the anahat chakra. After that, the body > > > > gets used to the power > > > > and no pain in the chest. > > > > > > > > My humble pranams to the Shiva in Sri Arjun > > > > Pandit-ji and the Lord of > > > > wisdom - Lord Dakshinamurthy. > > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- - > ------------- > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > > > > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with > > > your > > > > buddies all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- - > ------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group > > > "" > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > b.. To from this group, send an > > > > email to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c.. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 dear shiv bhakt om namo bhagawate rudraya this sanskrit quote was told by many gurus to their shishyas to apply reasoning or logic before accepting anything. the first time i read it as a printed reference was in the book "Vedic Metaphysics" written by his holiness jagatguru sankaracharya sri sri bharati krisha tirthaji of govardhana math, Puri and published by Motilal Banarsidass in 1978. In this book under the chaper 15 "Vedic Metaphysics and Advaita" his holiness lectures on "reason, the sole artbiter" in page 230. even though i am not able to give you the first origin of this quote centuries back, i was told by gurus as an old wise saying. i request more learnt shiv bhakts to share any more information on the first origin of this verse. in praise of lord shiva with best wishes and regards pandit arjun , "Michael Denney" <thehealingdrum> wrote: > > Om Namah Shivaaya > Can someone tell me from what writing this quote is from. > <<here i repeat the old wise saying which i quoted earlier also: > yukti yuktam vako grahyam baladapi sukadapi > yukti heenam vako tyajyam vruddhadapi sukadapi>> > > forgive my ignorance. I am new to the group. I like it very much > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > firstly we appreciate the way each member is expressing his views > > and opinions with respect and polite language even while > disagreeing > > with another member's posts. as shankaracharyaji demonstrated to > > chandaal and as mahamuni ji said in this message, there is no > > impurity for the same atma that dwells in each human. this is the > > reason why most shiv bhakts realise that shiva is there in all > other > > members and duly respect by saying "i bow to the shiva in you". > > even if the scriptures laid down certain rules and regulations, > they > > change according to the desha, kala, vartamana partisthiti which is > > clearly written in these scriptures. > > > > today most of the educated indians are settled abroad where they > > find less time for rituals, so they are taking simple mantras like > > om namah shivaya, wear rudraksha and visit temples on holidays. so > > the freedom or choice is there for each human and we are not here > to > > impose any code of conduct. > > > > these days every one started asking for demonstration of evidence > to > > support any thing we write from the puranas or classics. every one > > knew that the yugas happened several lakhs years ago. all the > vedas > > and puranas were taught by word of mouth from a guru to shishya. > no > > written bhojpatra books were distributed or sold. it is only in > the > > medieval days that these books were written as per the then > scholars > > who learnt these scriptures from thier gurus. people kept changing > > these scriptures in their next printed editions. the constitution > > of this country is getting changed several times which can be > > equated to manusmriti which must have changed. in this context, > the > > manusmriti has no bearing in today's changed world scenario. so > one > > shall refer the scriptures for knowing in depth knowledge of the > > practices prevailed but not to impose any code of conduct. if all > > christians have followed the strict rules and regulations written > in > > the Holy Bible, none of their countries like US, Europe, Japan and > > Australia would have been developed. > > > > here i repeat the old wise saying which i quoted earlier also: > > > > yukti yuktam vako grahyam baladapi sukadapi > > yukti heenam vako tyajyam vruddhadapi sukadapi > > > > whatever is LOGICAL or with REASONING ought to be accept even if > > told by a boy or a parrot. > > whatever is ILLOGICAL or without REASONING ought to be rejected > even > > if told by a old man or by sage suka. > > > > so shiv bhakts, you read hundreds of messages and each has to apply > > his or her own logic and reasoning to accept or reject anything > > expressed by others. yet every one respects the shiva in others > and > > we say "i bow to the shiva in you". > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > pandit arjun > > > > , "Mahamuni" > > <mahamuni@> wrote: > > > > > > Prasadarao Ji, > > > > > > Let me answer this to your comments: > > > > > > It all depends on your point of view. Let me expound a bit on > > this. > > > > > > First of all, different scriptures say different things. > > Sometimes they are completely conflicting, sometimes not. So just > > saying well it says so in such and such sastra, is not really a > > reason to speak definitively on the subject for all people at all > > times. Though of course, if it works for you, you can always > follow > > what it says. > > > > > > Next, all these current written scriptures have come much later > > than the oral traditions of this information. These written > > scriptures were not meant to be studied outside of that Guru > > Parampara because there are so many subtleties and things that need > > explaining. To further complicate that situation, not only are > > there different versions of many scriptures, but different oral > > lineages state different things as well. > > > > > > So the best thing to do, is follow what your Guru has to say on > > the subject and what feels right for you. > > > > > > Now regarding the example of Ravan that you gave. You call him > an > > Asura and describe him as inhuman and that he was punished. Now > > that is entirely true from one point of view. But there are other > > points of view on the subject. > > > > > > Another point of view looks at Ravan at one of the greatest > > devotees of the Lord and a Great Yogi. Asuras can be thought of as > > another race, not just as demons. Hey, Lord Shiva loves to keep > > their company, so how bad could they be? He did incredible Tapas > to > > achieve the Darshan and Boon of Lord Shiva. He was always thinking > > of Ram. In fact, Ravan was such a great devotee that the Lord > > Himself, Incarnate in a human form, came and gave him liberation by > > crushing him at his heart area under His Lotus Foot. Think about > > that. He didn't even just shoot him. He placed his Lotus Foot, > the > > source of worship where His energy comes out, and put it on Ravan's > > heart and released his soul from his body. Hey, I'll take that > > punishment anyday! > > > > > > I could go on, but I think this point is explained fairly > enough. > > In a similiar fashion, some do sadhanas in the cremation grounds. > > Some eat meat. Some even use sexual acts as part of their > sadhana. > > Some make their whole life their sadhana. So what is impure for > one > > is pure for another, dependent on the point of view. It doesn't > > make one person right and the other wrong. Both are right, for > > their own lives, which is all you can worry about and be concerned > > with. Live and let live. Let us just decide what is right for us > > and then do that. Let us not comment on what is right for another > > or tell them that they are wrong, unless they are come and asking > us > > for advice. Then we can express our point of view and they can see > > if it works for them. > > > > > > Are you the body or are you the Atma? The Atma is part of the > > Paramatma, so how could it ever become impure? It can't. The body > > is just Bhu. It is the Earth. It will either become dirt again or > > it will become Vibhuti/Bhasma. Both of these are also pure--at > > least from my point of view. > > > > > > Pranams and Blessings, > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > - > > > prasadarao madhunapantula > > > > > > Friday, April 28, 2006 12:10 AM > > > Re: Power of Rudraksha > > > > > > > > > Respected mahamuni and learned - pranams. > > > with my limited knowledge & understanding I have, I > > > would like to state this regarding your statement > > > "God/Goddess sees all anyway, so how could any act be > > > "impure"? ". > > > GOD/GODDESS is ALMIGHTY and sudhdha tatwa. > > > Its only for human this dwandwa bhava of pure or > > > impure > > > good or bad is applicable. So these dos & donts are > > > prescribed in sastra for humans to srictly believe & > > > follow sincerely. Almighty has seen actions of > > > Rama(ideal human) as well as Ravana(Aasura > > > -inhuman)and so Rama was rewarded and Ravana was > > > punished as we read history. Let us develop faith in > > > those results. > > > I stand to be corrected pl. > > > M.B.Prasada Rao, Visakhapatnam > > > > > > --- Mahamuni <mahamuni@> wrote: > > > > > > > Here is the explanation of why some people say you > > > > shouldn't wear your rudraksha to sleep, during sex, > > > > and while defecating (some say even while > > > > urinating), while drinking alcohol, while eating > > > > garlic and onions, and while eating non-veg food: > > > > > > > > These are really grouped into two types. The first > > > > is sex and going to the bathroom. During both these > > > > actions, prana/energy is leaving the body, and > > > > through the lower gates, so the body is said to then > > > > experience "impurity". One is prescribed to take a > > > > bath after. > > > > > > > > The other things on the list, including sleep, fall > > > > into the category of actions that are tamasic in > > > > nature. Again leading to a state of impurity. > > > > > > > > The whole idea of not wearing your rudraksha during > > > > these actions is so as to not subject it to these > > > > "impure" vibrations which occur during these > > > > actions. We want our rudraksha to just keep getting > > > > charged with positive vibrations and not assaulted > > > > with "negative" ones, or even ones that aren't our > > > > own, like letting someone else touch it. > > > > > > > > One is suggested to not even walk into the bathroom > > > > area while wearing the rudraksha, as this place is a > > > > place where this type of "impure" act is done again > > > > and again so it is permeated with those vibrations. > > > > The same as how a meditation room/area becomes > > > > filled with holy, spiritual, uplifting vibrations > > > > and Shakti. > > > > > > > > Now one has to decide how they want to go from here. > > > > Many people say many different things, like you > > > > shouldn't wear a mala you do japa on. Some say of > > > > course you should. > > > > > > > > God/Goddess sees all anyway, so how could any act be > > > > "impure"? It is a point of view. Still there are > > > > benefits to following certain practices and a > > > > certain effect results from them. You have to > > > > experience yourself and decide from there. > > > > > > > > Bom Mahadev! > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Thanasegar Ramasamy > > > > > > > > Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:08 PM > > > > Re: Power of > > > > Rudraksha > > > > > > > > > > > > Do what you feel that is right to you. The problem > > > > here is when people say things, they never give > > > > proper > > > > explanations. > > > > > > > > Why should one not wear to bed, since you never > > > > know > > > > when you might have intercourse in bed, so thats > > > > one > > > > reason for not wearing it in bed. > > > > > > > > But the same thing can be questioned here again, > > > > if a > > > > men cant wear his rudraksha to bed, which its > > > > considered holy, then a Thaali thats considered > > > > holy, > > > > how can it be worn to bed? > > > > > > > > I've asked this question to many people an non > > > > could > > > > answer me. > > > > > > > > Its all up to an indivdual on what is right or > > > > wrong > > > > to you. It is you whom has to decide. > > > > > > > > --- Mahamuni <mahamuni@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > People say many things. Some people say one > > > > thing > > > > > and some people say another. There is no one > > > > right > > > > > answer. It all depends on your point of view > > > > and > > > > > your approach. Do what feels right to you. > > > > > - > > > > > sesha srinivas > > > > > > > > > > Monday, April 24, 2006 10:07 PM > > > > > Re: Power of > > > > > Rudraksha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > > > > > > > I need a clarification regarding Rudraksha. I > > > > am > > > > > wearing a Panchamukhi rudraksha from past 7 > > > > years. > > > > > Some people say we are not supposed to wear > > > > > rudraksha while we go to bed and when we are > > > > going > > > > > to have intercourse with woman. Is it true?? plz > > > > > clarify. > > > > > > > > > > Sarvejana Sukhino Bhavantu. > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > mahadevadvaita <mahadevadvaita@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > > Namaste, It is indeed the grace of Shiva > > > > that I > > > > > worship Shiva and am > > > > > wearing a Rudraksha today. I bought a > > > > 12mukhi > > > > > from Sri Arjun Pandit-ji > > > > > and on the very first day, I could tell the > > > > > subtle impact of the > > > > > Rudraksha. By subtle impact I mean, serenity > > > > and > > > > > peace in mind and > > > > > harmony in the house. There is nothing > > > > greater > > > > > in this world then a > > > > > calm, thinking mind. Such a mind is fit for > > > > > Karma yoga and further > > > > > antahakaran shuddhi. The physical impact of > > > > the > > > > > 12mukhi was a dull > > > > > pain in the chest for a day or 2 and it was > > > > due > > > > > to power emanating > > > > > from the anahat chakra. 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Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 With all regards and reverences to the thoughts expressed by honourable members of the group, the following passage may inspire thoughts. It is not explained further as it is self explanatory. Sarvam khalvidam brahma, tajjalaniti santa upasita, atha khalu kratumayah puruso yatha-kratur-asmin-loke puruso bhavati tathetah pretya bhavati, sa kratum kurvita. This is a famous passage in the Upanishad. Sarvam khalvidam brahma. All this manifestation which you see in the form of individuality, whether organic or inorganic, visible or invisible, wherever it is, is That. Nothing but That is. " on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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