Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Each soul is divine, like pure light but ego like a black cloud surrounds the higher self, if we can clear this black cloud through compassion and love we can see the higher self within us and others. Ego encompasses all negative qualities. Om namah shivaya, Divakar. --- B K <bkgswu wrote: > Soul exists in all living beings not Supreme soul. > According to the acquired habits, sanskars, some > human souls become Cheats and some become God like > being in original qualities and some neutral and > some in mixture of qualities. > > Supreme soul, God, is Ocean of Mercy,.........do > not indulge in 5 vices of lust, anger, greed, ego > and attachment . > Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk wrote: > Om Namah Sivaya > > "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the > All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His > Power are different in different beings. In some > places there is a manifestation of the power of > Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. > In some places there is greater manifestation of > power than in others. Don't you see that among human > beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing > of men who are like tigers. I think of them as the > 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them > from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and > embrace him, he may devour us. > > He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing > else exists but this. > > Believe in the form of God. It is only after > attaining Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality(sees > the good qualities in all beings), the oneness of > Brahman and Its Sakti. Brahman(all pervading > consciousness of every individual soul) and > Sakti(the powers of soul) are identical, like fire > and its power to burn. When a man thinks of fire, > he must also think of its power to burn. Again, when > he thinks of the power to burn, he must also think > of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk > and its whiteness, water and its wetness." > > -----Sri Ramakrishna > > > > Sivaya Namah > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make > PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. -------------------------- Divakar Tanjore, Usui Reiki Master and Teacher, Seichim Reiki Master and Teacher, Member of Distance Healing Network, http://www.the-dhn.com/ -------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 that only Jiva(ego) is subject to impurities and when Jiva(ego) dies, the only Reality left is SIVAM. We can assure that you WILL not succeed in recruting true Siva Bhaktas into your sect because your teachings are too ELEMENTARY for us. In Skanda Upanishad, the Great Lord Skanda says: "Jiva is Siva and Siva is Jiva; when bound by husk it is paddy, unbound of is rice. Thus the bound one is Jiva, released from karma he is eternal Siva. Bound by ropes, he is Jiva, unbound, Siva. The body is said to be the temple, the deity Siva is Jiva; one should throw away the flowers after worship and worship with the sense of identity. Perception of non-difference is knowledge, meditation the objectless mind. The bath is removal of mental impurity; cleanliness is control of the senses. One should drink the nectar of Brahman, take alms for sustenance, live by oneself devoid of duality. Such a person of wisdom will get liberation.” By the grace of Lord Siva, Siva Bhaktas will realise the Ultimate Truth one day. Supreme Soul (SIVAM) is in the Heart of every living beings, this is decleared in Vedas, Upanishads, Agamas, Bhavavad-Gita, teachings of Hindu Rishis, Sages and Saints. Rishis proved this by their DIRECT experience. By the arroange!! of your sect's dogmas, you have negated the teachings of Lord Siva, God Incarnations, Great Hindu Scriptures, Great Rishis, Saints and Sages. All REALIZED Souls speak the same language that One Supreme Being dwells in the Heart of all living beings. By changing someone's original posting clearly shows how FRUDULENT, discreditable and dishonest you must be. My original posting says: Om Namah Sivaya "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His Power are different in different beings. In some places there is a manifestation of the power of Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. In some places there is greater manifestation of power than in others. Don't you see that among human beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing of men who are like tigers. I think of them as the 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and embrace him, he may devour us. He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing else exists but this. Believe in the form of God. It is only after attaining Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality, the oneness of Brahman and Its Sakti. Brahman and Sakti are identical, like fire and its power to burn. When a man thinks of fire, he must also think of its power to burn. Again, when he thinks of the power to burn, he must also think of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk and its whiteness, water and its wetness." -----Sri Ramakrishna Sivaya Namah The changes you have made is indicated by me in Red below, are you trying to correct Sri Ramakrisna's teachings or what????????????????????????????????????????????????? Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Om Namah Sivaya "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His Power are different in different beings. In some places there is a manifestation of the power of Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. In some places there is greater manifestation of power than in others. Don't you see that among human beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing of men who are like tigers. I think of them as the 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and embrace him, he may devour us. He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing else exists but this. Believe in the form of God. It is only after attaining Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality(sees the good qualities in all beings), the oneness of Brahman and Its Sakti. Brahman(all pervading consciousness of every individual soul) and Sakti(the powers of soul) are identical, like fire and its power to burn. When a man thinks of fire, he must also think of its power to burn. Again, when he thinks of the power to burn, he must also think of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk and its whiteness, water and its wetness." -----Sri Ramakrishna Sivaya Namah Sivaya Namah B K <bkgswu > wrote: Soul exists in all living beings not Supreme soul. According to the acquired habits, sanskars, some human souls become Cheats and some become God like being in original qualities and some neutral and some in mixture of qualities. Supreme soul, God, is Ocean of Mercy,.........do not indulge in 5 vices of lust, anger, greed, ego and attachment .Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Om Namah Sivaya "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His Power are different in different beings. In some places there is a manifestation of the power of Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. In some places there is greater manifestation of power than in others. Don't you see that among human beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing of men who are like tigers. I think of them as the 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and embrace him, he may devour us. He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing else exists but this. Believe in the form of God. It is only after attaining Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality(sees the good qualities in all beings), the oneness of Brahman and Its Sakti. Brahman(all pervading consciousness of every individual soul) and Sakti(the powers of soul) are identical, like fire and its power to burn. When a man thinks of fire, he must also think of its power to burn. Again, when he thinks of the power to burn, he must also think of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk and its whiteness, water and its wetness." -----Sri Ramakrishna Sivaya Namah Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. For Good - Sponsor a London Marathon runner and read our runner's blogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Dear BK, you seem to come back to the same point through different route. Truth is our guide to the ultimate goal. if we deviate from truth we trave backwards. A mind cannot be still with out truth. Truth is God. Om namah shivaya, Divakar. --- Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk wrote: > Om Namah Sivaya > > B K <bkgswu > > > You have changed my original posting, which is the > exact word of a Great Spiritual Teacher: Sri > Ramakrishna. If you want to comment accoring to > your believe /your sect dogmas, please you may say > so in reply, but please don't change the original > postings. We Siva Bhaktas have a very large Heart > because we are inwardly very close to the Supreme > Being (SIVAM), we listen to other sects and we > respect others because we know for sure that every > beings will eventually reach Siva's Feet without > exception (it is a matter of time). All different > sects/religions exits to accommodate souls who are > at different stages in their spiritual journey. > Please do not underestimate Siva Bhaktas, this group > is blessed with great Siva Bhaktas, they know the > truth that only Jiva(ego) is subject to impurities > and when Jiva(ego) dies, the only Reality left is > SIVAM. We can assure that you WILL not succeed in > recruting true Siva Bhaktas into your sect because > your teachings are too ELEMENTARY for > us. > > In Skanda Upanishad, the Great Lord Skanda says: > > "Jiva is Siva and Siva is Jiva; when bound by husk > it is paddy, unbound of is rice. Thus the bound one > is Jiva, released from karma he is eternal Siva. > Bound by ropes, he is Jiva, unbound, Siva. > > The body is said to be the temple, the deity Siva > is Jiva; one should throw away the flowers after > worship and worship with the sense of identity. > Perception of non-difference is knowledge, > meditation the objectless mind. The bath is removal > of mental impurity; cleanliness is control of the > senses. One should drink the nectar of Brahman, take > alms for sustenance, live by oneself devoid of > duality. Such a person of wisdom will get > liberation.” > > > > By the grace of Lord Siva, Siva Bhaktas will > realise the Ultimate Truth one day. Supreme Soul > (SIVAM) is in the Heart of every living beings, this > is decleared in Vedas, Upanishads, Agamas, > Bhavavad-Gita, teachings of Hindu Rishis, Sages and > Saints. Rishis proved this by their DIRECT > experience. > > By the arroange!! of your sect's dogmas, you have > negated the teachings of Lord Siva, God > Incarnations, Great Hindu Scriptures, Great Rishis, > Saints and Sages. All REALIZED Souls speak the same > language that One Supreme Being dwells in the Heart > of all living beings. > > By changing someone's original posting clearly > shows how FRUDULENT, discreditable and dishonest you > must be. > > My original posting says: > > Om Namah Sivaya > > "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the > All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His > Power are different in different beings. In some > places there is a manifestation of the power of > Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. > In some places there is greater manifestation of > power than in others. Don't you see that among human > beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing > of men who are like tigers. I think of them as the > 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them > from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and > embrace him, he may devour us. > > He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing > else exists but this. > > Believe in the form of God. It is only after > attaining Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality, the > oneness of Brahman and Its Sakti. Brahman and Sakti > are identical, like fire and its power to burn. When > a man thinks of fire, he must also think of its > power to burn. Again, when he thinks of the power to > burn, he must also think of fire. Further, Brahman > and Sakti are like milk and its whiteness, water and > its wetness." > > -----Sri Ramakrishna > > > > Sivaya Namah > > > > > The changes you have made is indicated by me in > Red below, are you trying to correct Sri > Ramakrisna's teachings or > what????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk > wrote: Om Namah Sivaya > > "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the > All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His > Power are different in different beings. In some > places there is a manifestation of the power of > Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. > In some places there is greater manifestation of > power than in others. Don't you see that among human > beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing > of men who are like tigers. I think of them as the > 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them > from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and > embrace him, he may devour us. > > He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing > else exists but this. > > Believe in the form of God. It is only after > attaining Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality(sees > the good qualities in all beings), the oneness of > Brahman and Its Sakti. Brahman(all pervading > consciousness of every individual soul) and > Sakti(the powers of soul) are identical, like fire > and its power to burn. When a man thinks of fire, > he must also think of its power to burn. Again, when > he thinks of the power to burn, he must also think > of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk > and its whiteness, water and its wetness." > > -----Sri Ramakrishna > > > > Sivaya Namah > > > > > Sivaya Namah > > > > B K <bkgswu wrote: > Soul exists in all living beings not Supreme > soul. According to the acquired habits, sanskars, > some human souls become Cheats and some become God > like being in original qualities and some neutral > and some in mixture of qualities. > > Supreme soul, God, is Ocean of Mercy,.........do > not indulge in 5 vices of lust, anger, greed, ego > and attachment . > Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk wrote: > Om Namah Sivaya > > "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the > All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His > Power are different in different beings. In some > places there is a manifestation of the power of > Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. > In some places there is greater manifestation of > power than in others. Don't you see that among human > beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing > of men who are like tigers. I think of them as the > 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them > from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and > embrace him, he may devour us. > > He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing > else exists but this. > > Believe in the form of God. It is only after > attaining Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality(sees > the good qualities in all beings), the oneness of > Brahman and Its Sakti. Brahman(all pervading > consciousness of every individual soul) and > Sakti(the powers of soul) are identical, like fire > and its power to burn. When a man thinks of fire, > he must also think of its power to burn. Again, when > he thinks of the power to burn, he must also think > of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk > and its whiteness, water and its wetness." > > -----Sri Ramakrishna > > > > Sivaya Namah > > === message truncated === -------------------------- Divakar Tanjore, Usui Reiki Master and Teacher, Seichim Reiki Master and Teacher, Member of Distance Healing Network, http://www.the-dhn.com/ -------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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