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------ Sri Ramakrishna Sri Appar

Appar flourished in the 7th century A. D. He is one of the four great Saiva

Samaya Acharyas (Saivite spiritual teachers). He was a celibate. He sang the

glories of Lord Siva at all the sacred places that he visited. These hymns are

called Thevaram. They have been collected into a book-form. All devotees sing

the Thevaram even today. Appar spent his days in worshipping and serving the

Lord in various ways, to set an example even to saints that they should not

relax their eternal spiritual vigilance, lest they should fall a prey to Maya

and to exhort them to lead the ideal life of a devotee for the guidance of

others. He also visited many sacred shrines, thus emphasising the glory of

pilgrimage.

Lord Siva wanted to test him. When Appar was doing his services in a temple

(cutting grasses, etc), the Lord made the entire floor appear as though it was

strewn with gold and diamonds. To Appar, gold and diamonds were worthless

‘straw’. He collected all of them and threw them in a near-by tank. Again, the

Lord made celestial damsels appear before him and tempt him with their charms.

Appar remained undisturbed. His entire heart and soul was centred on the Lotus

Feet of the Lord. Appar spent the rest of his life there and at the age of 81

merged himself with Siva. Tirumantiram by Rishi Tirumular Verse 172:

Wealth is a Flood that Ebbs and Flows Weigh well the pros and cons, and having

weighed, waver not,Lose not your bearings, caught in wealth's eddy;Fling aside

the transient trappings of earthly treasuresAnd thus when the Pale Sargeant

comes, for the great leap be ready. Commentary: Wealth comes like the flood

of waters and flour away. Put not your trust in it. Fling it aside and think of

the Lord. You can defy death in triumphant

joy. Verse 175: Worldly Desires are Never-Ending Our desires grow, but

none the truth to find;There's one stake to hold but nine exits to leave;The

old familiar faces come smiling to greet and bow;Deceivers ever, they abandon

us without a reprieve.

0pt">Verse 176: All Your Wealth Cannot Bribe Death Away When the vital spark

leaves this mortal mould,Bribe be none to lure it back; think, think of the

Lord;Death's loyal servants on restless mission bent,Do nothing consider that

with hot breath you pulse. Commentary: When life takes its flight from the

body, think of the Lord. You cannot bribe death to stay his hands. The Lord

alone shall be our refuge

then. Verse 205: Incontinent Passion Spells Ruin The worldly folk who seek

connubial delightsAre, like eddying water, sucked into whirling pool;Such is

passion, incontinent, fleeting as a dream;Real it is not; let not its siren

spell you befool.

0pt">Verse 208: Irretrievable Loss in Lust Those unfirm of mind who, in

folly vain,Struggle to plant seeds deep in moss-covered tank--If such betimes

we bind not and restrain,Irretrievably lost are they in lust of sex, sordid and

rank. Commentary: Indulgence in lust gets you into irretrievable waters. The

deeper

you plunge, the surer you perish. Sivaya Namah

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Does Siva really needs to test HIS devotees? Accoording to Siva

Purana, Siva knows all and determines the action of all. What then

the need for a test when HE has determined the outcome of the test.

This is what I do not understand, frequently we see stories of

Devotees being tested by Gods thru hardships, but how can it be.

Siva knows more about us than we do, what then the need for a

test...or rather is it really a test or character bulding or just

effects of past karma?

 

Need some enlightenment here.

 

Regards,

Bhupendra.

 

, Selvaratnam

Selvakumar <selvauk wrote:

>

> Om Namah Sivaya

>

>

> "When attachment for wealth and sex is wiped out from the mind,

what else is left in the soul? Only the bliss of Brahman."

>

------ Sri Ramakrishna

>

>

>

>

>

> Sri Appar

>

> Appar flourished in the 7th century A. D. He is one of the four

great Saiva Samaya Acharyas (Saivite spiritual teachers). He was a

celibate. He sang the glories of Lord Siva at all the sacred places

that he visited. These hymns are called Thevaram. They have been

collected into a book-form. All devotees sing the Thevaram even

today.

>

> Appar spent his days in worshipping and serving the Lord in

various ways, to set an example even to saints that they should not

relax their eternal spiritual vigilance, lest they should fall a

prey to Maya and to exhort them to lead the ideal life of a devotee

for the guidance of others. He also visited many sacred shrines,

thus emphasising the glory of pilgrimage.

>

> Lord Siva wanted to test him. When Appar was doing his services

in a temple (cutting grasses, etc), the Lord made the entire floor

appear as though it was strewn with gold and diamonds. To Appar,

gold and diamonds were worthless `straw'. He collected all of them

and threw them in a near-by tank. Again, the Lord made celestial

damsels appear before him and tempt him with their charms. Appar

remained undisturbed. His entire heart and soul was centred on the

Lotus Feet of the Lord. Appar spent the rest of his life there and

at the age of 81 merged himself with Siva.

>

>

> Tirumantiram by Rishi Tirumular

>

> Verse 172: Wealth is a Flood that Ebbs and Flows

>

> Weigh well the pros and cons, and having weighed, waver not,

> Lose not your bearings, caught in wealth's eddy;

> Fling aside the transient trappings of earthly treasures

> And thus when the Pale Sargeant comes, for the great leap be ready.

>

> Commentary: Wealth comes like the flood of waters and flour

away. Put not your trust in it. Fling it aside and think of the

Lord. You can defy death in triumphant joy.

>

> Verse 175: Worldly Desires are Never-Ending

>

> Our desires grow, but none the truth to find;

> There's one stake to hold but nine exits to leave;

> The old familiar faces come smiling to greet and bow;

> Deceivers ever, they abandon us without a reprieve.

>

>

> Verse 176: All Your Wealth Cannot Bribe Death Away

>

>

> When the vital spark leaves this mortal mould,

> Bribe be none to lure it back; think, think of the Lord;

> Death's loyal servants on restless mission bent,

> Do nothing consider that with hot breath you pulse.

>

> Commentary: When life takes its flight from the body, think of

the Lord. You cannot bribe death to stay his hands. The Lord alone

shall be our refuge then.

>

> Verse 205: Incontinent Passion Spells Ruin

>

> The worldly folk who seek connubial delights

> Are, like eddying water, sucked into whirling pool;

> Such is passion, incontinent, fleeting as a dream;

> Real it is not; let not its siren spell you befool.

>

>

> Verse 208: Irretrievable Loss in Lust

>

>

> Those unfirm of mind who, in folly vain,

> Struggle to plant seeds deep in moss-covered tank--

> If such betimes we bind not and restrain,

> Irretrievably lost are they in lust of sex, sordid and rank.

>

> Commentary: Indulgence in lust gets you into irretrievable

waters. The deeper you plunge, the surer you perish.

>

>

>

> Sivaya Namah

>

>

>

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wrote:>> Om Namah Sivaya> > > "When attachment for wealth and sex is

wiped out from the mind, what else is left in the soul? Only the bliss of

Brahman.">

------ Sri Ramakrishna> > >

> > > Sri Appar>

> Appar flourished in the 7th century A. D. He is one of the four

great Saiva Samaya Acharyas (Saivite spiritual teachers). He was a celibate. He

sang the glories of Lord Siva at all the sacred places that he visited. These

hymns are called Thevaram. They have been collected into a book-form. All

devotees sing the Thevaram even today. > > Appar spent his days in

worshipping and serving the Lord in various ways, to set

an example even to saints that they should not relax their eternal spiritual

vigilance, lest they should fall a prey to Maya and to exhort them to lead the

ideal life of a devotee for the guidance of others. He also visited many sacred

shrines, thus emphasising the glory of pilgrimage. > > Lord Siva wanted to

test him. When Appar was doing his services in a temple (cutting grasses, etc),

the Lord made the entire floor appear as though it was strewn with gold and

diamonds. To Appar, gold and diamonds were worthless `straw'. He collected all

of them and threw them in a near-by tank. Again, the Lord made celestial

damsels appear before him and tempt him with their charms. Appar remained

undisturbed. His entire heart and soul was centred on the Lotus Feet of the

Lord. Appar spent the rest of his life there and at the age of 81 merged

himself with Siva. >

> > Tirumantiram by Rishi Tirumular> > Verse 172: Wealth is a Flood

that Ebbs and Flows> > Weigh well the pros and cons, and having weighed,

waver not,> Lose not your bearings, caught in wealth's eddy;> Fling aside the

transient trappings of earthly treasures> And thus when the Pale Sargeant

comes, for the great leap be ready.> > Commentary: Wealth comes like the

flood of waters and flour away. Put not your trust in it. Fling it aside and

think of the Lord. You can defy death in triumphant joy.> > Verse 175:

Worldly Desires are Never-Ending> > Our desires grow, but none the truth to

find;> There's one stake to hold but nine exits to leave;> The old familiar

faces come smiling

to greet and bow;> Deceivers ever, they abandon us without a reprieve. > >

> Verse 176: All Your Wealth Cannot Bribe Death Away> > > When the vital

spark leaves this mortal mould,> Bribe be none to lure it back; think, think of

the Lord;> Death's loyal servants on restless mission bent,> Do nothing

consider that with hot breath you pulse.> > Commentary: When life takes

its flight from the body, think of the Lord. You cannot bribe death to stay his

hands. The Lord alone shall be our refuge then.> > Verse 205:

Incontinent Passion Spells Ruin> > The worldly folk who seek connubial

delights> Are, like eddying water, sucked into whirling pool;> Such is passion,

incontinent,

fleeting as a dream;> Real it is not; let not its siren spell you befool.> >

> Verse 208: Irretrievable Loss in Lust> > > Those unfirm of mind who,

in folly vain,> Struggle to plant seeds deep in moss-covered tank--> If such

betimes we bind not and restrain,> Irretrievably lost are they in lust of sex,

sordid and rank.> > Commentary: Indulgence in lust gets you into

irretrievable waters. The deeper you plunge, the surer you perish.> > > >

Sivaya

Namah > > >

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births that particular soul will have to take. om namaha shivaye Parasuraman

<parasu41 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Friends, Lord Siva tests only staunch

devotees. That too only to make the greatness of that devotee to the

public.b_jamnadas <b_jamnadas (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: Does Siva really needs to test

HIS devotees? Accoording to Siva Purana, Siva knows all and determines the

action of all. What then the need for a test when HE has determined the outcome

of the test. This is what I do not understand, frequently we see stories of

Devotees being tested by Gods thru hardships, but how can it be. Siva knows

more about us than we do, what then the

need for a test...or rather is it really a test or character bulding or just

effects of past karma?Need some enlightenment here.Regards,Bhupendra.--- In

, Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk

wrote:>> Om Namah Sivaya> > > "When attachment for wealth and sex is

wiped out from the mind, what else is left in the soul? Only the bliss of

Brahman.">

------ Sri Ramakrishna> > > >

> > Sri Appar>

> Appar flourished in the 7th century A. D. He is one of the four great

Saiva Samaya Acharyas (Saivite spiritual teachers). He was a

celibate. He sang the glories of Lord Siva at all the sacred places that he

visited. These hymns are called Thevaram. They have been collected into a

book-form. All devotees sing the Thevaram even today. > > Appar spent his

days in worshipping and serving the Lord in various ways, to set an example

even to saints that they should not relax their eternal spiritual vigilance,

lest they should fall a prey to Maya and to exhort them to lead the ideal life

of a devotee for the guidance of others. He also visited many sacred shrines,

thus emphasising the glory of pilgrimage. > > Lord Siva wanted to test

him. When Appar was doing his services in a temple (cutting grasses, etc), the

Lord made the entire floor appear as though it was strewn with gold and

diamonds. To Appar, gold and diamonds were worthless `straw'. He collected all

of them and

threw them in a near-by tank. Again, the Lord made celestial damsels appear

before him and tempt him with their charms. Appar remained undisturbed. His

entire heart and soul was centred on the Lotus Feet of the Lord. Appar spent

the rest of his life there and at the age of 81 merged himself with Siva. >

> > Tirumantiram by Rishi Tirumular> > Verse 172: Wealth is a Flood

that Ebbs and Flows> > Weigh well the pros and cons, and having weighed, waver

not,> Lose not your bearings, caught in wealth's eddy;> Fling aside the

transient trappings of earthly treasures> And thus when the Pale Sargeant

comes, for the great leap be ready.> > Commentary: Wealth comes like the

flood of waters and flour away. Put not your trust in it. Fling it aside and

think of the Lord. You can defy death in triumphant joy.> > Verse 175:

Worldly Desires are Never-Ending> > Our desires grow, but none the truth to

find;> There's one stake to hold but nine exits to leave;> The old familiar

faces come smiling to greet and bow;> Deceivers ever, they abandon us without a

reprieve. > > > Verse 176: All Your Wealth Cannot Bribe Death Away>

> > When the vital spark leaves this mortal mould,> Bribe be none to lure it

back; think, think of the Lord;> Death's loyal servants on restless mission

bent,> Do nothing consider that with hot breath you pulse.> > Commentary:

When life takes its flight from the body, think of the Lord. You

cannot bribe death to stay his hands. The Lord alone shall be our refuge then.>

> Verse 205: Incontinent Passion Spells Ruin> > The worldly folk who

seek connubial delights> Are, like eddying water, sucked into whirling pool;>

Such is passion, incontinent, fleeting as a dream;> Real it is not; let not its

siren spell you befool.> > > Verse 208: Irretrievable Loss in Lust> >

> Those unfirm of mind who, in folly vain,> Struggle to plant seeds deep in

moss-covered tank--> If such betimes we bind not and restrain,> Irretrievably

lost are they in lust of sex, sordid and rank.> > Commentary: Indulgence

in lust gets you into irretrievable waters. The deeper you plunge, the

surer you perish.> > > > Sivaya Namah

> > > > To help you

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Centre.> With Best Regards, N.S. Parasuraman Please visit my

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