Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 fo looking at it is :- Ksharam(means)=Destructable Aksharam (means)=Non-destuctable-eternal Rudra(Lord Siva is Non-destructable,-Eternal-(Nithyam)because He is Para Brahmam-So Rudra is Akshram) Acharya Sri Sankara puts this idea in "Soundarya Lahiri" in a beautiful verse (all sri Sankara Acharya's verses are beautiful) starting with "Sudhamapi Aasvaadya------Na Sambhoho Dava Janani Thaadanga mahima) -Somayaji sababathy <sai_sababathy > wrote: Dear Friends, I know the Rudraksha mala but i do not know the meaning of rudraksha.Can anybody please explain me about the same and why it is used.What is the need for using Rudraksha...?? Regards Sai Om Namah Shivaya ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~ Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I am sorry but there is a mistake in your first description....... Rudra as you rightly point out is one of the forms of Lord Siva. However Aksha is a word in Sanskrit that means 'tear' and not 'eye'. Therefore Rudraksha actually means in this sense 'tears from the eyes of Rudra'. The story goes that Sri Rudra was meditating as usual with the welfare of the universe in his mind. During meditation, He visualised what the state of mankind would be in the Kali-Yuga. Seeing the terrible state of mankind, His heart melted and he came out of his meditation. As He opened his eyes, some tears from that feeling in his heart came out of His eyes and fell on the mountain-side. Those tears of compassion from the Lord grew into trees. These trees bear fruits of kindness and compassion of Rudra. This is the reason why all human beings are allowed to wear the fruits of compassion and kindness as this is the source of all pure and good coming directly from the one who is the giver of all things in life. The rest of your descriptions were quite refreshing to read. Kind regards Anand [] On Behalf Of Rajagopalan Somayaji12 March 2006 20:31To: Subject: Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha sri sababathy ji, Rudra (means)=Lord sri Siva Aksha(means)= means eyes Rudraaksham means Lord sri.Siva's eyes -----Another way of looking at it is :- "A"karaathi "Ksha"kaaraantham is "AKSHA"( in Sanskrit first letter is "A" and last letter is "Ksha" -as we say in English "A" to "Z") So Aksha means all things created in the Universe starting with the letter "A" and ending with the letter Ksha( A to Z) in the whole Universe is Lord SIVA- Rudra + Aksham=Rudraaksham ---- A third way fo looking at it is :- Ksharam(means)=Destructable Aksharam (means)=Non-destuctable-eternal Rudra(Lord Siva is Non-destructable,-Eternal-(Nithyam)because He is Para Brahmam-So Rudra is Akshram) Acharya Sri Sankara puts this idea in "Soundarya Lahiri" in a beautiful verse (all sri Sankara Acharya's verses are beautiful) starting with "Sudhamapi Aasvaadya------Na Sambhoho Dava Janani Thaadanga mahima) -Somayaji sababathy <sai_sababathy > wrote: Dear Friends, I know the Rudraksha mala but i do not know the meaning of rudraksha.Can anybody please explain me about the same and why it is used.What is the need for using Rudraksha...?? Regards Sai Om Namah Shivaya ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~ Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 means Eyes. I know nothing about your Lord sri."Siva's Tears(?!)"story-Rajagopalan Anand <anand_nortel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: I am sorry but there is a mistake in your first description....... Rudra as you rightly point out is one of the forms of Lord Siva. However Aksha is a word in Sanskrit that means 'tear' and not 'eye'. Therefore Rudraksha actually means in this sense 'tears from the eyes of Rudra'. The story goes that Sri Rudra was meditating as usual with the welfare of the universe in his mind. During meditation, He visualised what the state of mankind would be in the Kali-Yuga. Seeing the terrible state of mankind, His heart melted and he came out of his meditation. As He opened his eyes, some tears from that feeling in his heart came out of His eyes and fell on the mountain-side. Those tears of compassion from the Lord grew into trees. These trees bear fruits of kindness and compassion of Rudra. This is the reason why all human beings are allowed to wear the fruits of compassion and kindness as this is the source of all pure and good coming directly from the one who is the giver of all things in life. The rest of your descriptions were quite refreshing to read. Kind regards Anand [] On Behalf Of Rajagopalan Somayaji12 March 2006 20:31To: Subject: Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha sri sababathy ji, Rudra (means)=Lord sri Siva Aksha(means)= means eyes Rudraaksham means Lord sri.Siva's eyes -----Another way of looking at it is :- "A"karaathi "Ksha"kaaraantham is "AKSHA"( in Sanskrit first letter is "A" and last letter is "Ksha" -as we say in English "A" to "Z") So Aksha means all things created in the Universe starting with the letter "A" and ending with the letter Ksha( A to Z) in the whole Universe is Lord SIVA- Rudra + Aksham=Rudraaksham ---- A third way fo looking at it is :- Ksharam(means)=Destructable Aksharam (means)=Non-destuctable-eternal Rudra(Lord Siva is Non-destructable,-Eternal-(Nithyam)because He is Para Brahmam-So Rudra is Akshram) Acharya Sri Sankara puts this idea in "Soundarya Lahiri" in a beautiful verse (all sri Sankara Acharya's verses are beautiful) starting with "Sudhamapi Aasvaadya------Na Sambhoho Dava Janani Thaadanga mahima) -Somayaji sababathy <sai_sababathy > wrote: Dear Friends, I know the Rudraksha mala but i do not know the meaning of rudraksha.Can anybody please explain me about the same and why it is used.What is the need for using Rudraksha...?? Regards Sai Om Namah Shivaya ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~ Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 dear shiv bhakts om namo bhagawate rudraya what sri somayaji ji said is correct. aksha means eyes only. some rudraksha sellers have given their own meaning of aksha means tears since the rudraksha were produced out of the tears of shiva as mentioned in the shivapuran. however, the real meaning of the sanskrit word "rudraksha" is "eyes of rudraksha" denoting that the rudraksha are the products of lord shiva's eyes. it also connotes that lord rudra is present in a rudraksha which is why even renounced persons of all religions wear rudraksha, as they believe lord rudra protects the wearer since it represent the rudra's eyes. in praise of lord shiva with best wishes arjun , Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote: > > I am very,very,very sorry,my dear sri Anand.Aksha does not mean "Tears"-but it means Eyes only.You please refer any Sanskrit- English dictionary like that of sir Monier-Williams. > > Meena(fish like)+Akshi(eyes)=Meenaakshi(in Madurai(T.N) > > Kaama(Love for her children-human beings)+Akshi(eyes)=Kaamakshi (in Kaanchipuram-T.N) > > Visaala(Broad)+Akshi(Eyes) =Visaalaakshi(Banaras-U.P.) > > I can give hundreds of examples-due to paucity of space,I shall stop here. Lochanam (Sanskrit) also means Eyes. > > I know nothing about your Lord sri."Siva's Tears(?!)"story- Rajagopalan > > Anand <anand_nortel wrote: > I am sorry but there is a mistake in your first description....... > > Rudra as you rightly point out is one of the forms of Lord Siva. However Aksha is a word in Sanskrit that means 'tear' and not 'eye'. Therefore Rudraksha actually means in this sense 'tears from the eyes of Rudra'. > > The story goes that Sri Rudra was meditating as usual with the welfare of the universe in his mind. During meditation, He visualised what the state of mankind would be in the Kali-Yuga. Seeing the terrible state of mankind, His heart melted and he came out of his meditation. As He opened his eyes, some tears from that feeling in his heart came out of His eyes and fell on the mountain- side. Those tears of compassion from the Lord grew into trees. These trees bear fruits of kindness and compassion of Rudra. This is the reason why all human beings are allowed to wear the fruits of compassion and kindness as this is the source of all pure and good coming directly from the one who is the giver of all things in life. > > The rest of your descriptions were quite refreshing to read. > > Kind regards > > Anand > > > [] On Behalf Of Rajagopalan Somayaji > 12 March 2006 20:31 > > Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha > > > sri sababathy ji, > > Rudra (means)=Lord sri Siva > Aksha(means)= means eyes > Rudraaksham means Lord sri.Siva's eyes > -------------------------------- ------------------ > Another way of looking at it is :- > "A"karaathi "Ksha"kaaraantham is "AKSHA"( in Sanskrit first letter is "A" and last letter is "Ksha" -as we say in English "A" to "Z") So Aksha means all things created in the Universe starting with the letter "A" and ending with the letter Ksha( A to Z) in the whole Universe is Lord SIVA- > Rudra + Aksham=Rudraaksham > -------------------------------- ----------------- > A third way fo looking at it is :- > Ksharam(means)=Destructable > Aksharam (means)=Non-destuctable-eternal > Rudra(Lord Siva is Non-destructable,-Eternal-(Nithyam)because He is Para Brahmam-So Rudra is Akshram) > Acharya Sri Sankara puts this idea in "Soundarya Lahiri" in a beautiful verse (all sri Sankara Acharya's verses are beautiful) starting with "Sudhamapi Aasvaadya------Na Sambhoho Dava Janani Thaadanga mahima) -Somayaji > > > sababathy <sai_sababathy wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I know the Rudraksha mala but i do not know the meaning of rudraksha.Can anybody please explain me about the same and why it is used.What is the need for using Rudraksha...?? > > Regards > Sai > Om Namah Shivaya > ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord shiva > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 This is interesting especially coming from you pandit ji. Chakshu means 'eye' and Aksh means 'from eye' or commonly interpreted as 'tear'. The word 'Rudraksha' is a mistaken transliteration and the correct or closer pronunciation is 'Rudraksh (i.e. Rudr+aksh and not Rudr+Aaksha)'. English is not very good language when it comes to lesser than complete sound of a letter in words as sometimes the case is with Sanskrit (and to a large extent Devnagiri has kept up that rich tradition from Sanskrit). It is not easy to transliterate the complex Sanskrit words in English as almost always they would have half sounds of letters that English can not correctly transliterate and that is where the confusion occurs and the correct meaning sometimes gets lost. Like our friend is doing in his e-mail below in his examples of Meenaakshi and so on. The correct version should be Meen+Aakshi and not Meena+akshi as you probably well know. What happened probably over the years and maybe centuries is that Aaksha is sometimes referred to as eye. It is almost like there is the 'correct' Sanskrit and then there is the improper or 'common' Sanskrit. Aaksha is what eventually became 'Aankh' in modern Devnagiri. Aaksha being the 'male and/or neutral' version of the word, Aakshi is sometimes used as the 'female' version and hence some of the names of deities found in the southern India where eyes were important part of the story. I think it is one of those things we grow up with certain sounds and they stick with us throughout our lives. Language and names are merely there for us humans to be able to refer to things and identify them and probably no more. Kind regards Anand [] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004 15 March 2006 02:38 Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha dear shiv bhakts om namo bhagawate rudraya what sri somayaji ji said is correct. aksha means eyes only. some rudraksha sellers have given their own meaning of aksha means tears since the rudraksha were produced out of the tears of shiva as mentioned in the shivapuran. however, the real meaning of the sanskrit word "rudraksha" is "eyes of rudraksha" denoting that the rudraksha are the products of lord shiva's eyes. it also connotes that lord rudra is present in a rudraksha which is why even renounced persons of all religions wear rudraksha, as they believe lord rudra protects the wearer since it represent the rudra's eyes. in praise of lord shiva with best wishes arjun , Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote: > > I am very,very,very sorry,my dear sri Anand.Aksha does not mean "Tears"-but it means Eyes only.You please refer any Sanskrit- English dictionary like that of sir Monier-Williams. > > Meena(fish like)+Akshi(eyes)=Meenaakshi(in Madurai(T.N) > > Kaama(Love for her children-human beings)+Akshi(eyes)=Kaamakshi (in Kaanchipuram-T.N) > > Visaala(Broad)+Akshi(Eyes) =Visaalaakshi(Banaras-U.P.) > > I can give hundreds of examples-due to paucity of space,I shall stop here. Lochanam (Sanskrit) also means Eyes. > > I know nothing about your Lord sri."Siva's Tears(?!)"story- Rajagopalan > > Anand <anand_nortel wrote: > I am sorry but there is a mistake in your first description....... > > Rudra as you rightly point out is one of the forms of Lord Siva. However Aksha is a word in Sanskrit that means 'tear' and not 'eye'. Therefore Rudraksha actually means in this sense 'tears from the eyes of Rudra'. > > The story goes that Sri Rudra was meditating as usual with the welfare of the universe in his mind. During meditation, He visualised what the state of mankind would be in the Kali-Yuga. Seeing the terrible state of mankind, His heart melted and he came out of his meditation. As He opened his eyes, some tears from that feeling in his heart came out of His eyes and fell on the mountain- side. Those tears of compassion from the Lord grew into trees. These trees bear fruits of kindness and compassion of Rudra. This is the reason why all human beings are allowed to wear the fruits of compassion and kindness as this is the source of all pure and good coming directly from the one who is the giver of all things in life. > > The rest of your descriptions were quite refreshing to read. > > Kind regards > > Anand > > > [] On Behalf Of Rajagopalan Somayaji > 12 March 2006 20:31 > > Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha > > > sri sababathy ji, > > Rudra (means)=Lord sri Siva > Aksha(means)= means eyes > Rudraaksham means Lord sri.Siva's eyes > -------------------------------- ------------------ > Another way of looking at it is :- > "A"karaathi "Ksha"kaaraantham is "AKSHA"( in Sanskrit first letter is "A" and last letter is "Ksha" -as we say in English "A" to "Z") So Aksha means all things created in the Universe starting with the letter "A" and ending with the letter Ksha( A to Z) in the whole Universe is Lord SIVA- > Rudra + Aksham=Rudraaksham > -------------------------------- ----------------- > A third way fo looking at it is :- > Ksharam(means)=Destructable > Aksharam (means)=Non-destuctable-eternal > Rudra(Lord Siva is Non-destructable,-Eternal-(Nithyam)because He is Para Brahmam-So Rudra is Akshram) > Acharya Sri Sankara puts this idea in "Soundarya Lahiri" in a beautiful verse (all sri Sankara Acharya's verses are beautiful) starting with "Sudhamapi Aasvaadya------Na Sambhoho Dava Janani Thaadanga mahima) -Somayaji > > > sababathy <sai_sababathy wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I know the Rudraksha mala but i do not know the meaning of rudraksha.Can anybody please explain me about the same and why it is used.What is the need for using Rudraksha...?? > > Regards > Sai > Om Namah Shivaya > ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord shiva > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 dear shiv bhakt anand ji om namo bhagawate rudraya you are right in saying that "Aaksha" means "tears". but in the first ever mention of the word "aksha" in rigved the meaning varies in two references: 1. aksha means eyes akin to vishnu is referred "kamalaaksha" and "pundarikaksha". 2. aksha means "A-kara" and "Ksha-kara". if we read the akshamala upanishad and give a correlation to "A" and "Ksha" it looks more like the meaning of Akara to Kshakara i.e. A to Z. in that rigveda text, it goes on saying that this "rudraksha" mala of 108 beads representing the 108 elements is used to recite all the seven crore mantras in the world and to invoke all Akaras viz. "A-kara" to "Ksha-kara". in other words A to Z. i consider myself at student level till last breath and we shall be grateful to lord shiva for his bhakts like us to share our little knoweldge and learn more on his eyes and tears of eyes. we also take this opportunity to thank all active members without whose valuable contributions, we would not learn more. in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes and regards arjun , "Anand" <anand_nortel wrote: > > This is interesting especially coming from you pandit ji. > > Chakshu means 'eye' and Aksh means 'from eye' or commonly interpreted as > 'tear'. The word 'Rudraksha' is a mistaken transliteration and the > correct or closer pronunciation is 'Rudraksh (i.e. Rudr+aksh and not > Rudr+Aaksha)'. English is not very good language when it comes to > lesser than complete sound of a letter in words as sometimes the case is > with Sanskrit (and to a large extent Devnagiri has kept up that rich > tradition from Sanskrit). It is not easy to transliterate the complex > Sanskrit words in English as almost always they would have half sounds > of letters that English can not correctly transliterate and that is > where the confusion occurs and the correct meaning sometimes gets lost. > Like our friend is doing in his e-mail below in his examples of > Meenaakshi and so on. The correct version should be Meen+Aakshi and not > Meena+akshi as you probably well know. > > What happened probably over the years and maybe centuries is that Aaksha > is sometimes referred to as eye. It is almost like there is the > 'correct' Sanskrit and then there is the improper or 'common' Sanskrit. > Aaksha is what eventually became 'Aankh' in modern Devnagiri. Aaksha > being the 'male and/or neutral' version of the word, Aakshi is sometimes > used as the 'female' version and hence some of the names of deities > found in the southern India where eyes were important part of the story. > > I think it is one of those things we grow up with certain sounds and > they stick with us throughout our lives. Language and names are merely > there for us humans to be able to refer to things and identify them and > probably no more. > > Kind regards > > Anand > > > > [] On Behalf Of > panditarjun2004 > 15 March 2006 02:38 > > Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha > > > dear shiv bhakts > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > what sri somayaji ji said is correct. aksha means eyes only. > > some rudraksha sellers have given their own meaning of aksha means > tears since the rudraksha were produced out of the tears of shiva as > mentioned in the shivapuran. however, the real meaning of the > sanskrit word "rudraksha" is "eyes of rudraksha" denoting that the > rudraksha are the products of lord shiva's eyes. it also connotes > that lord rudra is present in a rudraksha which is why even > renounced persons of all religions wear rudraksha, as they believe > lord rudra protects the wearer since it represent the rudra's eyes. > > in praise of lord shiva with best wishes > arjun > > > , Rajagopalan Somayaji > <ssrvj@> wrote: > > > > I am very,very,very sorry,my dear sri Anand.Aksha does not > mean "Tears"-but it means Eyes only.You please refer any Sanskrit- > English dictionary like that of sir Monier-Williams. > > > > Meena(fish like)+Akshi(eyes)=Meenaakshi(in Madurai(T.N) > > > > Kaama(Love for her children-human beings)+Akshi(eyes)=Kaamakshi > (in Kaanchipuram-T.N) > > > > Visaala(Broad)+Akshi(Eyes) =Visaalaakshi(Banaras-U.P.) > > > > I can give hundreds of examples-due to paucity of space,I shall > stop here. Lochanam (Sanskrit) also means Eyes. > > > > I know nothing about your Lord sri."Siva's Tears(?!)"story- > Rajagopalan > > > > Anand <anand_nortel@> wrote: > > I am sorry but there is a mistake in your first > description....... > > > > Rudra as you rightly point out is one of the forms of Lord > Siva. However Aksha is a word in Sanskrit that means 'tear' and > not 'eye'. Therefore Rudraksha actually means in this sense 'tears > from the eyes of Rudra'. > > > > The story goes that Sri Rudra was meditating as usual with the > welfare of the universe in his mind. During meditation, He > visualised what the state of mankind would be in the Kali-Yuga. > Seeing the terrible state of mankind, His heart melted and he came > out of his meditation. As He opened his eyes, some tears from that > feeling in his heart came out of His eyes and fell on the mountain- > side. Those tears of compassion from the Lord grew into trees. > These trees bear fruits of kindness and compassion of Rudra. This > is the reason why all human beings are allowed to wear the fruits of > compassion and kindness as this is the source of all pure and good > coming directly from the one who is the giver of all things in life. > > > > The rest of your descriptions were quite refreshing to read. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Anand > > > > > > > [] On Behalf Of > Rajagopalan Somayaji > > 12 March 2006 20:31 > > > > Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha > > > > > > sri sababathy ji, > > > > Rudra (means)=Lord sri Siva > > Aksha(means)= means eyes > > Rudraaksham means Lord sri.Siva's eyes > > ------------------------------ -- > ------------------ > > Another way of looking at it is :- > > "A"karaathi "Ksha"kaaraantham is "AKSHA"( in Sanskrit first > letter is "A" and last letter is "Ksha" -as we say in English "A" > to "Z") So Aksha means all things created in the Universe starting > with the letter "A" and ending with the letter Ksha( A to Z) in the > whole Universe is Lord SIVA- > > Rudra + Aksham=Rudraaksham > > ------------------------------ -- > ----------------- > > A third way fo looking at it is :- > > Ksharam(means)=Destructable > > Aksharam (means)=Non-destuctable-eternal > > Rudra(Lord Siva is Non-destructable,-Eternal-(Nithyam)because He > is Para Brahmam-So Rudra is Akshram) > > Acharya Sri Sankara puts this idea in "Soundarya Lahiri" in a > beautiful verse (all sri Sankara Acharya's verses are beautiful) > starting with "Sudhamapi Aasvaadya------Na Sambhoho Dava Janani > Thaadanga mahima) -Somayaji > > > > > > sababathy <sai_sababathy@> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > > I know the Rudraksha mala but i do not know the meaning of > rudraksha.Can anybody please explain me about the same and why it is > used.What is the need for using Rudraksha...?? > > > > Regards > > Sai > > Om Namah Shivaya > > ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Tears--- people say lord Siva who removes the cause of Tears is sheddingg Tears!!!!????(---what to say--It is only Avidhya-Rajagopalan Anand <anand_nortel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: This is interesting especially coming from you pandit ji. Chakshu means 'eye' and Aksh means 'from eye' or commonly interpreted as'tear'. The word 'Rudraksha' is a mistaken transliteration and thecorrect or closer pronunciation is 'Rudraksh (i.e. Rudr+aksh and notRudr+Aaksha)'. English is not very good language when it comes tolesser than complete sound of a letter in words as sometimes the case iswith Sanskrit (and to a large extent Devnagiri has kept up that richtradition from Sanskrit). Lord shiva Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 dear shiv bhakt shri somayaji ji om namo bhagawate rudraya in my last mail, i wrote that "aksha" means eyes only and "Aaksha" means tears differentiating "Aksha" and "Aaksha". if this is wrong, please correct. in the sanskrit dhyana slokam it says "tryaksha rudraksha mala...." also in shivapuran, lingapuran and padmapuran besides few upanishads, the word "rudraksha" finds mention in sanskrit. all my mails start with the first line of namakam (praising lord shiva) and end with "in praise of lord shiva". hope there is nothing wrong in doing so. thank you very much for explaining the meaning of each word. in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes and regards arjun , Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote: > > > "Rudraksh" is not a sanskrit word.It is a Hindi word. "Rudraaksham" is a Sanskrit word.--Aksh does not mean "From eyes" and Aksha does not mean tears but means Eyes only.It is all wild imagination-Avidhya > > I have quoted from the the Dhyaana slokam of sri.Rudraadhyaayee itself:-"Trayaksha"=three eyes > > Another member who mentions in every post "Om Namo Bhagavathe Rudraya" also writes "Aksha means tears!!??. > > What does " Om Namo Bhagavathe Rudraaya "means? > > I have already annotatd OM(A+U+Ma)--Namo means salutations- I shall seperately annotate Bhagavathe>Now annotating "Rudraaya"---- > > >:Rhodhana hethu Rooham > > ---Rooham=Extreme mental pain/stress/anxiety -Rooham is the cause---hethu=reason for---Rhodhanam =weeping with "TEARS"(effect)- cause-effect relationship-Apriori- > > >Rooham Traayathethi Rudram > > Traaayathe=the one which removes the cause for weeping with tears ----ithi =that one is---Rudram=the praise(namakam)of sri Rudra (Lord Siva)---Lord siva is one who removes the cause which makes one to weep with Tears--- people say lord Siva who removes the cause of Tears is sheddingg Tears!!!!????(---what to say--It is only Avidhya- Rajagopalan > > Anand <anand_nortel wrote: > This is interesting especially coming from you pandit ji. > > Chakshu means 'eye' and Aksh means 'from eye' or commonly interpreted as > 'tear'. The word 'Rudraksha' is a mistaken transliteration and the > correct or closer pronunciation is 'Rudraksh (i.e. Rudr+aksh and not > Rudr+Aaksha)'. English is not very good language when it comes to > lesser than complete sound of a letter in words as sometimes the case is > with Sanskrit (and to a large extent Devnagiri has kept up that rich > tradition from Sanskrit). > > Lord shiva > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Travel > Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Thank you for the explanations. I find it not easy, to read in English, the grammatical accuracies of Sanskrit. Despite using English as my first language, I prefer to go back to the original texts in Sanskrit as that is when the subtleties of the values especially of the lower and higher sounds of vowels becomes clearer. Many people have done much work trying to transliterate but it still lacks that crispness that one gets in original Sanskrit and even Devnagiri versions. Kind regards Anand [] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004 15 March 2006 14:51 Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha dear shiv bhakt anand ji om namo bhagawate rudraya you are right in saying that "Aaksha" means "tears". but in the first ever mention of the word "aksha" in rigved the meaning varies in two references: 1. aksha means eyes akin to vishnu is referred "kamalaaksha" and "pundarikaksha". 2. aksha means "A-kara" and "Ksha-kara". if we read the akshamala upanishad and give a correlation to "A" and "Ksha" it looks more like the meaning of Akara to Kshakara i.e. A to Z. in that rigveda text, it goes on saying that this "rudraksha" mala of 108 beads representing the 108 elements is used to recite all the seven crore mantras in the world and to invoke all Akaras viz. "A-kara" to "Ksha-kara". in other words A to Z. i consider myself at student level till last breath and we shall be grateful to lord shiva for his bhakts like us to share our little knoweldge and learn more on his eyes and tears of eyes. we also take this opportunity to thank all active members without whose valuable contributions, we would not learn more. in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes and regards arjun , "Anand" <anand_nortel wrote: > > This is interesting especially coming from you pandit ji. > > Chakshu means 'eye' and Aksh means 'from eye' or commonly interpreted as > 'tear'. The word 'Rudraksha' is a mistaken transliteration and the > correct or closer pronunciation is 'Rudraksh (i.e. Rudr+aksh and not > Rudr+Aaksha)'. English is not very good language when it comes to > lesser than complete sound of a letter in words as sometimes the case is > with Sanskrit (and to a large extent Devnagiri has kept up that rich > tradition from Sanskrit). It is not easy to transliterate the complex > Sanskrit words in English as almost always they would have half sounds > of letters that English can not correctly transliterate and that is > where the confusion occurs and the correct meaning sometimes gets lost. > Like our friend is doing in his e-mail below in his examples of > Meenaakshi and so on. The correct version should be Meen+Aakshi and not > Meena+akshi as you probably well know. > > What happened probably over the years and maybe centuries is that Aaksha > is sometimes referred to as eye. It is almost like there is the > 'correct' Sanskrit and then there is the improper or 'common' Sanskrit. > Aaksha is what eventually became 'Aankh' in modern Devnagiri. Aaksha > being the 'male and/or neutral' version of the word, Aakshi is sometimes > used as the 'female' version and hence some of the names of deities > found in the southern India where eyes were important part of the story. > > I think it is one of those things we grow up with certain sounds and > they stick with us throughout our lives. Language and names are merely > there for us humans to be able to refer to things and identify them and > probably no more. > > Kind regards > > Anand > > > > [] On Behalf Of > panditarjun2004 > 15 March 2006 02:38 > > Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha > > > dear shiv bhakts > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > what sri somayaji ji said is correct. aksha means eyes only. > > some rudraksha sellers have given their own meaning of aksha means > tears since the rudraksha were produced out of the tears of shiva as > mentioned in the shivapuran. however, the real meaning of the > sanskrit word "rudraksha" is "eyes of rudraksha" denoting that the > rudraksha are the products of lord shiva's eyes. it also connotes > that lord rudra is present in a rudraksha which is why even > renounced persons of all religions wear rudraksha, as they believe > lord rudra protects the wearer since it represent the rudra's eyes. > > in praise of lord shiva with best wishes > arjun > > > , Rajagopalan Somayaji > <ssrvj@> wrote: > > > > I am very,very,very sorry,my dear sri Anand.Aksha does not > mean "Tears"-but it means Eyes only.You please refer any Sanskrit- > English dictionary like that of sir Monier-Williams. > > > > Meena(fish like)+Akshi(eyes)=Meenaakshi(in Madurai(T.N) > > > > Kaama(Love for her children-human beings)+Akshi(eyes)=Kaamakshi > (in Kaanchipuram-T.N) > > > > Visaala(Broad)+Akshi(Eyes) =Visaalaakshi(Banaras-U.P.) > > > > I can give hundreds of examples-due to paucity of space,I shall > stop here. Lochanam (Sanskrit) also means Eyes. > > > > I know nothing about your Lord sri."Siva's Tears(?!)"story- > Rajagopalan > > > > Anand <anand_nortel@> wrote: > > I am sorry but there is a mistake in your first > description....... > > > > Rudra as you rightly point out is one of the forms of Lord > Siva. However Aksha is a word in Sanskrit that means 'tear' and > not 'eye'. Therefore Rudraksha actually means in this sense 'tears > from the eyes of Rudra'. > > > > The story goes that Sri Rudra was meditating as usual with the > welfare of the universe in his mind. During meditation, He > visualised what the state of mankind would be in the Kali-Yuga. > Seeing the terrible state of mankind, His heart melted and he came > out of his meditation. As He opened his eyes, some tears from that > feeling in his heart came out of His eyes and fell on the mountain- > side. Those tears of compassion from the Lord grew into trees. > These trees bear fruits of kindness and compassion of Rudra. This > is the reason why all human beings are allowed to wear the fruits of > compassion and kindness as this is the source of all pure and good > coming directly from the one who is the giver of all things in life. > > > > The rest of your descriptions were quite refreshing to read. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Anand > > > > > > > [] On Behalf Of > Rajagopalan Somayaji > > 12 March 2006 20:31 > > > > Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha > > > > > > sri sababathy ji, > > > > Rudra (means)=Lord sri Siva > > Aksha(means)= means eyes > > Rudraaksham means Lord sri.Siva's eyes > > ------------------------------ -- > ------------------ > > Another way of looking at it is :- > > "A"karaathi "Ksha"kaaraantham is "AKSHA"( in Sanskrit first > letter is "A" and last letter is "Ksha" -as we say in English "A" > to "Z") So Aksha means all things created in the Universe starting > with the letter "A" and ending with the letter Ksha( A to Z) in the > whole Universe is Lord SIVA- > > Rudra + Aksham=Rudraaksham > > ------------------------------ -- > ----------------- > > A third way fo looking at it is :- > > Ksharam(means)=Destructable > > Aksharam (means)=Non-destuctable-eternal > > Rudra(Lord Siva is Non-destructable,-Eternal-(Nithyam)because He > is Para Brahmam-So Rudra is Akshram) > > Acharya Sri Sankara puts this idea in "Soundarya Lahiri" in a > beautiful verse (all sri Sankara Acharya's verses are beautiful) > starting with "Sudhamapi Aasvaadya------Na Sambhoho Dava Janani > Thaadanga mahima) -Somayaji > > > > > > sababathy <sai_sababathy@> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > > I know the Rudraksha mala but i do not know the meaning of > rudraksha.Can anybody please explain me about the same and why it is > used.What is the need for using Rudraksha...?? > > > > Regards > > Sai > > Om Namah Shivaya > > ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Friend I did not mean to offend you. I have never professed to be a know it all either. However what little knowledge I have I shared with you. I am not interested in this debate as this is leaning towards 'I am right and you are wrong' sort of way. I think it would keep the environment healthy in this group if we drop this senseless debate. The beads are holy and have a connection to the soul. I am sure you would agree to that as well. Beyond that we are delving into Grammatical accuracies of a language in a different language that can not accurately transliterate the original words. Therefore let's move onto another subject. Kind regards Anand [] On Behalf Of Rajagopalan Somayaji16 March 2006 02:46To: Subject: RE: Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha "Rudraksh" is not a sanskrit word.It is a Hindi word. "Rudraaksham" is a Sanskrit word.--Aksh does not mean "From eyes" and Aksha does not mean tears but means Eyes only.It is all wild imagination-Avidhya I have quoted from the the Dhyaana slokam of sri.Rudraadhyaayee itself:-"Trayaksha"=three eyes Another member who mentions in every post "Om Namo Bhagavathe Rudraya" also writes "Aksha means tears!!??. What does " Om Namo Bhagavathe Rudraaya "means? I have already annotatd OM(A+U+Ma)--Namo means salutations- I shall seperately annotate Bhagavathe>Now annotating "Rudraaya"---- >:Rhodhana hethu Rooham ---Rooham=Extreme mental pain/stress/anxiety -Rooham is the cause---hethu=reason for---Rhodhanam =weeping with "TEARS"(effect)-cause-effect relationship-Apriori- >Rooham Traayathethi Rudram Traaayathe=the one which removes the cause for weeping with tears ----ithi =that one is---Rudram=the praise(namakam)of sri Rudra(Lord Siva)---Lord siva is one who removes the cause which makes one to weep with Tears--- people say lord Siva who removes the cause of Tears is sheddingg Tears!!!!????(---what to say--It is only Avidhya-Rajagopalan Anand <anand_nortel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: This is interesting especially coming from you pandit ji. Chakshu means 'eye' and Aksh means 'from eye' or commonly interpreted as'tear'. The word 'Rudraksha' is a mistaken transliteration and thecorrect or closer pronunciation is 'Rudraksh (i.e. Rudr+aksh and notRudr+Aaksha)'. English is not very good language when it comes tolesser than complete sound of a letter in words as sometimes the case iswith Sanskrit (and to a large extent Devnagiri has kept up that richtradition from Sanskrit). Lord shiva TravelFind great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 which is why even renounced persons of all religions wear rudraksha, as they believe lord rudra protects the wearer since it represent the rudra's eyes.in praise of lord shiva with best wishesarjun--- In , Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote:>> I am very,very,very sorry,my dear sri Anand.Aksha does not mean "Tears"-but it means Eyes only.You please refer any Sanskrit-English dictionary like that of sir Monier-Williams.> > Meena(fish like)+Akshi(eyes)=Meenaakshi(in Madurai(T.N)> > Kaama(Love for her children-human beings)+Akshi(eyes)=Kaamakshi (in Kaanchipuram-T.N) > > Visaala(Broad)+Akshi(Eyes) =Visaalaakshi(Banaras-U.P.)> > I can give hundreds of examples-due to paucity of space,I shall stop here. Lochanam (Sanskrit) also means Eyes.> > I know nothing about your Lord sri."Siva's Tears(?!)"story-Rajagopalan > > Anand <anand_nortel wrote:> I am sorry but there is a mistake in your first description.......> > Rudra as you rightly point out is one of the forms of Lord Siva. However Aksha is a word in Sanskrit that means 'tear' and not 'eye'. Therefore Rudraksha actually means in this sense 'tears from the eyes of Rudra'.> > The story goes that Sri Rudra was meditating as usual with the welfare of the universe in his mind. During meditation, He visualised what the state of mankind would be in the Kali-Yuga. Seeing the terrible state of mankind, His heart melted and he came out of his meditation. As He opened his eyes, some tears from that feeling in his heart came out of His eyes and fell on the mountain-side. Those tears of compassion from the Lord grew into trees. These trees bear fruits of kindness and compassion of Rudra. This is the reason why all human beings are allowed to wear the fruits of compassion and kindness as this is the source of all pure and good coming directly from the one who is the giver of all things in life.> > The rest of your descriptions were quite refreshing to read.> > Kind regards> > Anand > > > [] On Behalf Of Rajagopalan Somayaji> 12 March 2006 20:31> To: > Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha> > > sri sababathy ji,> > Rudra (means)=Lord sri Siva> Aksha(means)= means eyes> Rudraaksham means Lord sri.Siva's eyes> -----> Another way of looking at it is :-> "A"karaathi "Ksha"kaaraantham is "AKSHA"( in Sanskrit first letter is "A" and last letter is "Ksha" -as we say in English "A" to "Z") So Aksha means all things created in the Universe starting with the letter "A" and ending with the letter Ksha( A to Z) in the whole Universe is Lord SIVA- > Rudra + Aksham=Rudraaksham> ----> A third way fo looking at it is :-> Ksharam(means)=Destructable> Aksharam (means)=Non-destuctable-eternal> Rudra(Lord Siva is Non-destructable,-Eternal-(Nithyam)because He is Para Brahmam-So Rudra is Akshram) > Acharya Sri Sankara puts this idea in "Soundarya Lahiri" in a beautiful verse (all sri Sankara Acharya's verses are beautiful) starting with "Sudhamapi Aasvaadya------Na Sambhoho Dava Janani Thaadanga mahima) -Somayaji > > > sababathy <sai_sababathy wrote:> Dear Friends,> > I know the Rudraksha mala but i do not know the meaning of rudraksha.Can anybody please explain me about the same and why it is used.What is the need for using Rudraksha...?? > > Regards> Sai> Om Namah Shivaya> ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > Lord shiva > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > >ravi Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 dear shiv bhakt ravi om namo bhagawate rudraya in my limited knowledge on rudraksha, i find mention of only one to fourteen mukh rudraksha. 15 to 21 mukh and beyond are also heard and sold but their references, lordships and benefits have not been explained in the shivapuran. similarly these days we are seeing people selling om rudraksha, ganesh rudraksh, ganeshgauri rudraksha, gaurishankar rudraksha and trijuti or gauripaath rudraksha. in gaurishankar rudraksha, two rudrakshas are joined together which these rudraksha sellers attribute to gauri and shankar. similarly the trijuti rudraksha is a conjoin of three rudrakshas and the rudraksha sellers attribute it to brahma, vishnu and shiva. i recently heard in the rudraksha circles that a new product of chaturbrahma is being launched soon where one finds four rudrakshas joined together which represent the four faces of lord brahma. recently few people discovered round ek mukh rudraksha trees suddenly and have started selling them for several lakhs of rupees per bead. i have no comment on all these rudraksha except one mukh to fourteen mukh recommended by lord shiva. i always advise shiv bhakts to choose between one to fourteen mukh rudraksha, for they find their illustruous mention in the shivapuran. if other members have any substantiation of these rudraksha (other than 1 to 14) from the holy scriptures i would be grateful to learn from them. in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes arjun , "d.k.ravindran krishnasamy" <dkravi wrote: > > Respected Sir, > I have a Rudraaksha mala with a pendent of two Rudraaksha joint together , I bought it as it was told that two Rudraaksha joint to gether means Shiva and Paravathi, please let me know if it can worn always > Pranams > Ravi. > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear shiv bhakts > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > what sri somayaji ji said is correct. aksha means eyes only. > > some rudraksha sellers have given their own meaning of aksha means > tears since the rudraksha were produced out of the tears of shiva as > mentioned in the shivapuran. however, the real meaning of the > sanskrit word "rudraksha" is "eyes of rudraksha" denoting that the > rudraksha are the products of lord shiva's eyes. it also connotes > that lord rudra is present in a rudraksha which is why even > renounced persons of all religions wear rudraksha, as they believe > lord rudra protects the wearer since it represent the rudra's eyes. > > in praise of lord shiva with best wishes > arjun > > > , Rajagopalan Somayaji > <ssrvj@> wrote: > > > > I am very,very,very sorry,my dear sri Anand.Aksha does not > mean "Tears"-but it means Eyes only.You please refer any Sanskrit- > English dictionary like that of sir Monier-Williams. > > > > Meena(fish like)+Akshi(eyes)=Meenaakshi(in Madurai(T.N) > > > > Kaama(Love for her children-human beings)+Akshi(eyes) =Kaamakshi > (in Kaanchipuram-T.N) > > > > Visaala(Broad)+Akshi(Eyes) =Visaalaakshi(Banaras-U.P.) > > > > I can give hundreds of examples-due to paucity of space,I shall > stop here. Lochanam (Sanskrit) also means Eyes. > > > > I know nothing about your Lord sri."Siva's Tears(?!)"story- > Rajagopalan > > > > Anand <anand_nortel@> wrote: > > I am sorry but there is a mistake in your first > description....... > > > > Rudra as you rightly point out is one of the forms of Lord > Siva. However Aksha is a word in Sanskrit that means 'tear' and > not 'eye'. Therefore Rudraksha actually means in this sense 'tears > from the eyes of Rudra'. > > > > The story goes that Sri Rudra was meditating as usual with the > welfare of the universe in his mind. During meditation, He > visualised what the state of mankind would be in the Kali-Yuga. > Seeing the terrible state of mankind, His heart melted and he came > out of his meditation. As He opened his eyes, some tears from that > feeling in his heart came out of His eyes and fell on the mountain- > side. Those tears of compassion from the Lord grew into trees. > These trees bear fruits of kindness and compassion of Rudra. This > is the reason why all human beings are allowed to wear the fruits of > compassion and kindness as this is the source of all pure and good > coming directly from the one who is the giver of all things in life. > > > > The rest of your descriptions were quite refreshing to read. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Anand > > > > > > > [] On Behalf Of > Rajagopalan Somayaji > > 12 March 2006 20:31 > > > > Re: Meaning of Rudraaksha > > > > > > sri sababathy ji, > > > > Rudra (means)=Lord sri Siva > > Aksha(means)= means eyes > > Rudraaksham means Lord sri.Siva's eyes > > ------------------------------ -- > ------------------ > > Another way of looking at it is :- > > "A"karaathi "Ksha"kaaraantham is "AKSHA"( in Sanskrit first > letter is "A" and last letter is "Ksha" -as we say in English "A" > to "Z") So Aksha means all things created in the Universe starting > with the letter "A" and ending with the letter Ksha( A to Z) in the > whole Universe is Lord SIVA- > > Rudra + Aksham=Rudraaksham > > ------------------------------ -- > ----------------- > > A third way fo looking at it is :- > > Ksharam(means)=Destructable > > Aksharam (means)=Non-destuctable-eternal > > Rudra(Lord Siva is Non-destructable,-Eternal-(Nithyam)because He > is Para Brahmam-So Rudra is Akshram) > > Acharya Sri Sankara puts this idea in "Soundarya Lahiri" in a > beautiful verse (all sri Sankara Acharya's verses are beautiful) > starting with "Sudhamapi Aasvaadya------Na Sambhoho Dava Janani > Thaadanga mahima) -Somayaji > > > > > > sababathy <sai_sababathy@> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > > I know the Rudraksha mala but i do not know the meaning of > rudraksha.Can anybody please explain me about the same and why it is > used.What is the need for using Rudraksha...?? > > > > Regards > > Sai > > Om Namah Shivaya > > ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord shiva > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > ravi > > > > Mail > Bring photos to life! 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Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 itself:-"Trayaksha"=three eyes Another member who mentions in every post "Om Namo Bhagavathe Rudraya" also writes "Aksha means tears!!??. What does " Om Namo Bhagavathe Rudraaya "means? I have already annotatd OM(A+U+Ma)--Namo means salutations- I shall seperately annotate Bhagavathe>Now annotating "Rudraaya"---- >:Rhodhana hethu Rooham ---Rooham=Extreme mental pain/stress/anxiety -Rooham is the cause---hethu=reason for---Rhodhanam =weeping with "TEARS"(effect)-cause-effect relationship-Apriori- >Rooham Traayathethi Rudram Traaayathe=the one which removes the cause for weeping with tears ----ithi =that one is---Rudram=the praise(namakam)of sri Rudra(Lord Siva)---Lord siva is one who removes the cause which makes one to weep with Tears--- people say lord Siva who removes the cause of Tears is sheddingg Tears!!!!????(---what to say--It is only Avidhya-Rajagopalan Anand <anand_nortel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: This is interesting especially coming from you pandit ji. Chakshu means 'eye' and Aksh means 'from eye' or commonly interpreted as'tear'. The word 'Rudraksha' is a mistaken transliteration and thecorrect or closer pronunciation is 'Rudraksh (i.e. Rudr+aksh and notRudr+Aaksha)'. English is not very good language when it comes tolesser than complete sound of a letter in words as sometimes the case iswith Sanskrit (and to a large extent Devnagiri has kept up that richtradition from Sanskrit). Lord shiva TravelFind great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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