Ratna Dana Vidhi: Gomeda to leper, Yellow Sapp to Brahmin, etc.

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Dear Swee,

 

Namaste!!! It is more than just a gomeda to a leper. The exact process

of "pleasing" Rahu (which can only happen when our karma permits) is as

follows (note...there is some interesting info AFTER the mantras):

 

Propitiation of Rahu (Saturday)

 

CHARITY: Donate a hessonite or another fine orange gem, a coconut, old

coins or coal to a leper on Saturday.

 

FASTING: On the first Saturday of the waxing moon, especially during

major or minor Rahu periods.

 

MANTRA: To be chanted on Saturday, two hours after sunset, especially

during major or minor Rahu periods:

 

Rahva-astottara-shata-nama-vali

 

(The 108 names of Rahu)

 

Om rahave namah

Om saumhikeyaya namah

Om vidhuntudaya namah

Om surashatrave namah

Om tamase namah

Om phanine namah

Om gargyaynapa namah

Om surapye namah

Om nibajimutasamkashaya namah

Om caturbhujava namah

Om khangakhetaka-dharine namah

Om varadayakahastakaya namah

Om shulayudhaya namah

Om megha-varnaya namah

Om krishna-dhvajapatakavate namah

Om dakshinashamukharathaya namah

Om tikshnadamshtakarallakaya namah

Om shupokarasansthaya namah

Om gomedha-bharana-priyaya namah

Om mashapriyaya namah

Om kashyaparshinandanaya namah

Om bhujageshvaraya namah

Om ulkapatayitre namah

Om shuline namah

Om nidhipaya namah

Om krishna-sarpa-raje namah

Om vishajvalavrita ' asyaya addhashariraya namah

Om shatravapradaya namah

Om ravindubhikaraya namah

Om chaya-svarupine namah

Om kathinangakaya namah

Om dvishacchatracchedakaya namah

Om karallasyaya namah

Om bhayamkaraya namah

Om krura-karmane namah

Om tamo-rupaya namah

Om shyam-atmane namah

Om nila-lohitaya namah

Om kiritine namah

Om nilavasanaya namah

Om sanisamntavartmagaya namah

Om candala-varnaya namah

Om ashvyriksa-bhavaya namah

Om mesha-bhavaya namah

Om shanivat-phaladaya namah

Om shuraya namah

Om apasavyagataye namah

Om uparagakagaya namah

Om soma-surya-cchavivimardakaya namah

Om nila-pushpa-viharaya namah

Om graha-shreshthaya namah

Om ashtama-grahaya namah

Om kabamdhamatradehaya namah

Om yatudhanakulodbhavaya namah

Om govinda-vara-patraya namah

Om deva-jati-pravishtakaya namah

Om kruraya namah

Om gharaya namah

Om shanir-mitraya namah

Om shukra-mitraya namah

Om agocaraya namah

Om mani ganga-snanadatre' namah

Om svagrihe' pravaladhyadaya namah

Om sad-grihe'anyabaladhrite' namah

Om caturthe matri-nashakaya namah

Om candrayukte candalajati sihmajanmane rajyadatre namah

Om mahakayaya namah

Om janma-kartre' namah

Om vidhuripave' namah

Om madakajnanadaya namah

Om janmakanyarajyadatre' namah

Om janmahanidaya namah

Om navame pitrihantre' namah

Om pancame' shokadayakaya namah

Om dhyune' kalatrahantre' namah

Om saptame kalahapradaya namah

Om shashthe' vittadatre' namah

Om caturthe' vairadayaka namah

Om navame' papadatre' namah

Om dashame shokadayakaya namah

Om adau yashah pradatre' namah

Om ante vairapradayakaya namah

Om kalatmane' namah

Om gocaracaraya namah

Om ghane' kakutpradaya namah

Om pancame' ghishanashringadaya namah

Om svarbhanave' namah

Om baline' namah

Om maha-saukhya-pradayine' namah

Om chandra-vairine namah

Om shashvataya namah

Om surashatrave' namah

Om papagrahaya namah

Om shambhavaya namah

Om pujyakaya namah

Om patirapuranaya namah

Om paithinasakulodbhavaya bhakta-rakshaya namah

Om rahu-murtaye' namah

Om sarva-bhishta-phala-pradaya namah

Om dirghaya namah

Om krishnaya namah

Om atanave' namah

Om vishnu-netraraye' namah

Om devaya namah

Om danavaya namah.

Rahu seed mantra: Om bhram bhrim bhraum sah rahave namah.

 

RESULT: The planetary deity Rahu is pleased granting victory over

enemies, favour from the King or government, and reduction in diseases

caused by Rahu.

 

I not only in doing this kind of yajna or graha-shanta, but I

advise Royalty, heads of state, Bank Presidents, and VVIPs to do it

also.

 

In case of pleasing Jupiter the gem would be Yellow Sapphire or topaz

to be given to a brahmin on Guruvar at late afternoon during Shukla

paksha, along with all the other items and mantras listed for Guru.

 

And for pleasing Rahu it is giving a Gomeda to a leper as described

above. Another example is to please Mars one gives a red coral to a

Sannyasi, to please Saturn a blue sapphire and black cow given to a

"poor young man" on Shanivar, etc.

 

I have seen these different graha yajnas performed for many different

planets, and always with obvious results. In fact, the last time I

helped arrange one such yajna was for a lady in America who was in Rahu

Dasha and had Rahu debilitated in the 8th house. I advised the Rahu

Yajna or Ratna arpana to please Rahu. She already had a fine Gomeda

weighing 7 carats, but she couldn't find a leper to give it to in the

USA. So I told her to send the gem to me, and I would arrange it.

According I got the gomeda, and with a desire to participate in the

Rahu ratna arpana myself, I had it set in silver and put with a silver

chain. I was ready, but, alas, in Bangkok, Thailand you cannot find a

single leper. So I sent the gem set with chain by hand to a friend in

Mumbai. This friend also had Rahu in the 8th and also wanted to

participate in the Rahu Yajna by actually finding a leper and giving

them the gem set pendant over their necks on a chain. This person

waited until Shukla Paksha Shanivar and then went and gave the Rahu

ratna talisman to a real leper, and said, Om ram rahave namah!" They

took a picture of when giving to the leper. The whole thing took about

4 months to complete (from when the Gomeda was sent to me until it got

given to a leper).

 

Result: For my little part I played in pleasing Rahu by participating

in this ratna dana I was rewarded with a real Valampuri Lakshmi Conch

that I had been seeking for 30 years, and I got it without even asking

or knowing within ONE WEEK of the Rahu Ratna Dana. Now, it didn't take

away my karma, no one can take away your karma, if we change our karma,

that is also our karma. So it was ripe for me to please Rahu, and the

result was sudden and surprising, including other signs of increased

good fortune too, and for all concerned.

 

We all know that "ratna-dana-vidhi" has suggested donating gems to

please Grahadevas. And it was in Graha Gochar Jyotish that I could find

the further details of complete yajna-japa-recepient, which are

different for each planet.

 

For complete information on Ratna Dana, please see this page of my 1995

book:

http://www.agt-gems.com/Book/Appendage/Appendage.html

 

Note: I transliterated the 108 slokas for each planet, although I

didn't use diacritical fonts, that would be better still.

 

Best rgds,

Richard

 

sacred-objects, "Swee Chan" <swee wrote:

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

>

>

> Dear Richard and Arjun,

>

> Namaste

>

>

>

> I do not to donating a gomeda to a leper. Do you? What's he

going

> to do? Take away your bad karma on your behalf when he himself is

riddled

> with disease?

>

> We need to be more realistic here. The Puranas do not to

such

> remedies. Instead, they do suggest dakshina to a Brahmana/Purohit.

This is

> so that we hope the Brahmana/Purohit can take away some of our bad

karma.

> This can be done in one of several ways: When transits are averse or

just

> before the person dies/or during a shraddha.

>

> My suggestion is that, gifts (of gems and other items) have to be

new and

> not your cast offs.

>

>

>

> Regarding the slokas sent by Richard (embedded below), these are my

initial

> thoughts:

>

>

>

> The language is not ancient Sanskrit where there was less tendency of

using

> synonyms there (an opinion after reading tomes of it; but am no

expert!!)

>

> The slokas are more modern phenomenon to use words like "Avaneya". It

is

> interesting to note that midway in the first line of shloka 81 the

author

> has forgotten that he is writing for Viguna graha Dharanaa. Certainly

not

> something the ancients would do! I venture a guess that this comes

from

> Jaina source of astrological texts which are of a much later origin.

Gaurav,

> what do you think?

>

>

>

> But there does not appear to be any variance about the ratnas that

need to

> be worn from that of Narada Purana as long as we relate the Ratnas

which are

> recommended for Dana as they relate to the grahas.

>

>

>

> What is in variance is in the matter of those that need to be worn.

>

>

>

> A careful look indicates that the shlokas are describing Viguna -

meaning

> that when the grahas are inimical - for example, Jupiter is malefic

> (functional malefic), the recommendation is to wear Pearl. For Cancer

lagna

> Jupiter will be malefic being the 6th moolatrikona lord, and here

> strengthening Moon will certainly make sense as Jupiter is going to

create

> health problems and also since Moon does not own any bad house. More

so if

> Jupiter is occupying the 8th House!

>

>

>

> In the 3rd sloka, the author appears to have changed the basis on

which he's

> written the first two shlokas.

>

>

>

> For the meaning to be clear, one must also get the shlokas, that

indicate

> what is Viguna. I assume that it must be given the book. Much would

depend

> on which position of a graha or its rasi is called as Viguna.

>

>

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004

> Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:28 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Translation of slokas from Mani Mala

on

> Planetary G...

>

>

>

> namaste richard ji

>

>

>

> the simple rule of anukul/pratikul remedies are clear like this.

>

>

>

> retain or wear the objects of a beneficial planet.

>

> donate or throw in water the objects of a malefic planet.

>

>

>

> in lalkitab system of remedies, this is what is followed precisely.

>

>

>

> after years of research through lalkitab remedies, i found stones

>

> would work positively only if those planets are beneficial to the

>

> native in a chart. when the planets are malefic, since natives

>

> cannot afford donating precious stones, they can donate objects

>

> related to those malefic planets. this is where lalkitab comes

>

> handy.

>

>

>

> i do not agree with gauravji's observation that if you wear a pearn

>

> for moon, besides moon, jupiter would also be benefited and at the

>

> same time mars gets debilitated. in my knowledge stones have

>

> scientific properties and their single objective is to

>

> receive/absorb the cosmic energies of the respective planets.

>

> simply put, if you wear a stone for a particular planet, if that

>

> planet is a benefic the native gets positive results, and if that

>

> planet is malefic, the native gets negative results.

>

>

>

> because of these ambivalence in stone recommendations, i recommend

>

> rudraksha as several puranas attribute lords to each rudaksha and

>

> also attribute what benefits the wearer gets. no anukul, no

>

> pratikul. also it has no negative affects.

>

>

>

> with best wishes

>

> arjun

>

> vedic astrology, "Richard Shaw-Brown II"

>

> <rsbj66@> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Sriman,

>

> >

>

> > The translations of Mani Mala by Tagore - Verses 79-81 are

>

> correct. I have uploaded the

>

> > original Sanskrit texts to the PHOTOS section of this group for

>

> anyone to check.

>

> >

>

> > Verses 80-81 make no sense. Therefore it appears that Mani Mala is

>

> an imperfect source

>

> > of gem knowledge. And it should not be followed as is.

>

> >

>

> > One thing interesting is that books on Indian gemology, like Mani

>

> Mala, they only talk

>

> > about adverse planets. And they never mention what to do for

>

> Anukul planets (which is

>

> > obviously to wear the gem for the Anukul graha, viz., Anukula-

>

> vad)!??

>

> >

>

> > Point is that for Pratikul Graha we DONATE the gem (ratna-arpana),

>

> and for Anukul Graha

>

> > we WEAR the gem. Based on the philosophy that gems strengthen

>

> their plant when worn,

>

> > and reduce their planet when donated. One is accepting, other is

>

> giving away.

>

> >

>

> > Best rgds,

>

> > Richard

>

> >

>

> > vedic astrology, yobrevol@ wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> > >

>

> > > Namaste Richard Ji,

>

> > >

>

> > > So they are actually correct. Please understand that my

>

> reservations were

>

> > > not personal towards you in nature, rather towards the stated

>

> translation. I am

>

> > > in agreement with you with the sloka 79 as I also come from

>

> Anukul school of

>

> > > thought as taught by my guru.

>

> > >

>

> > > I am just trying to figure out why would mani mala say what it

>

> states in

>

> > > sloka 80+...have you read another version of mani mala

>

> translated by another

>

> > > author...?

>

> > >

>

> > > To think that we should wear Blue sapphire for adverse moon is

>

> beyond my

>

> > > limited understanding, specially when we make a blunt general

>

> statement like

>

> > > that...I mean moon is neither exalted nor debilitated in saturn

>

> signs, and then

>

> > > the author of mani mala further suggests wearing a pearl for

>

> adverse

>

> > > Jupiter...where jupiter gets exalted, so their is inconsistency

>

> here...

>

> > >

>

> > > Having said that, may be Guru Ji and other learned will throw

>

> some light...

>

> > >

>

> > > Namaste

>

> > > Gaurav Jain

>

> > >

>

> > > In a message dated 2/20/2006 3:57:55 P.M. Eastern Standard

>

> Time,

>

> > > rsbj66@ writes:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear Sriman,

>

> > >

>

> > > Namaste!!! I am not suggesting anything, these are three slokas

>

> taken from

>

> > > Mani Mala

>

> > > written by SM Tagore published in 1879. I'm just putting these

>

> slokas out

>

> > > for comment.

>

> > >

>

> > > I personally agree with the first sloka 79. When Sun is adverse

>

> one should

>

> > > DONATE a ruby,

>

> > > for adverse Moon one should donate a pearl, as in Ratna-dana-

>

> vidhi

>

> > >

>

> > > And when these planets are beneficial (anukul) then one should

>

> WEAR the

>

> > > associated gem,

>

> > > as if Sun is anukul in the chart then Ruby can be worn, as in

>

> ratna-dharana.

>

> > >

>

> > > Gem should be WORN for good planet / gem should be DONATED for

>

> bad planet.

>

> > >

>

> > > I personally disagree with slokas 80-81. But as they are from

>

> the famous

>

> > > Mani Mali so I

>

> > > have put them for your interest.

>

> > >

>

> > > Best regards,

>

> > > Richard

>

> > >

>

> > > vedic astrology, yobrevol@ wrote:

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> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Namaste richard ji,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > If I am reading it correctly , what you are suggesting via

>

> these slokas is

>

> > >

>

> > > > that we should give away diamond to propitiate venus, and at

>

> the same time

>

> > > wear

>

> > > > diamond when venus is adverse? and that we wear blue

>

> sapphire to nullify

>

> > > > adverse effects of moon?....lets not forget that jupiter

>

> exalts in

>

> > > cancer, so

>

> > > > how in the right mind can we suggest wearing pearl to "ward

>

> off" the

>

> > > adverse

>

> > > > effects of jupiter...?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > are you sure about the authenticity of the translations?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Also, to the learned, where can I get a copy of Mani mala?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Namaste

>

> > > > Gaurav Jain

>

> > > >

>

> > > > In a message dated 2/20/2006 2:50:03 P.M. Eastern Standard

>

> Time,

>

> > > > rsbj66@ writes:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Translation 79: Ill Stars and how to propitiate them by

>

> bestowal (dana)

>

> > > > of gems:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > When the Sun is hostile (donate) a pure ruby; when the Moon,

>

> a good

>

> > > > pearl; when Mangala, a good coral; when Budha, a good

>

> emerald; when

>

> > > > Brihaspati, a good yellow sapphire; when Shukra, the

>

> diamond; when

>

> > > > Shani, a good blue sapphire; when Rahu, the gomeda; and when

>

> Ketu, a

>

> > > > good cat's eye, should be donated

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Translation 80-81: Ill Stars and how to ward them off by

>

> wearing

>

> > > > (dharan) of gems:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > If the Sun is adverse, (wear) the cat's eye; if the Moon,

>

> the blue

>

> > > > sapphire; if Mangala, the ruby; if Budha, the ruby too; if

>

> Vrihaspati,

>

> > > > the pearl; if Shukra, the diamond; if Shani, the great blue

>

> sapphire;

>

> > > > if Rahu, the gomeda, and if Ketu, the emerald, should be

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especiallyduring major or minor Rahu

periods:Rahva-astottara-shata-nama-vali(The 108 names of Rahu)Om rahave namahOm

saumhikeyaya namahOm vidhuntudaya namahOm surashatrave namahOm tamase namahOm

phanine namahOm gargyaynapa namahOm surapye namahOm nibajimutasamkashaya

namahOm caturbhujava namahOm khangakhetaka-dharine namahOm varadayakahastakaya

namahOm shulayudhaya namahOm megha-varnaya namahOm krishna-dhvajapatakavate

namahOm dakshinashamukharathaya namahOm tikshnadamshtakarallakaya namahOm

shupokarasansthaya namahOm gomedha-bharana-priyaya namahOm mashapriyaya namahOm

kashyaparshinandanaya namahOm bhujageshvaraya namahOm ulkapatayitre namahOm

shuline namahOm nidhipaya namahOm krishna-sarpa-raje namahOm vishajvalavrita '

asyaya addhashariraya namahOm shatravapradaya

namahOm ravindubhikaraya namahOm chaya-svarupine namahOm kathinangakaya namahOm

dvishacchatracchedakaya namah Om karallasyaya namahOm bhayamkaraya namahOm

krura-karmane namahOm tamo-rupaya namahOm shyam-atmane namahOm nila-lohitaya

namahOm kiritine namahOm nilavasanaya namahOm sanisamntavartmagaya namahOm

candala-varnaya namahOm ashvyriksa-bhavaya namahOm mesha-bhavaya namahOm

shanivat-phaladaya namah Om shuraya namahOm apasavyagataye namahOm

uparagakagaya namahOm soma-surya-cchavivimardakaya namahOm nila-pushpa-viharaya

namahOm graha-shreshthaya namahOm ashtama-grahaya namahOm kabamdhamatradehaya

namahOm yatudhanakulodbhavaya namahOm govinda-vara-patraya namahOm

deva-jati-pravishtakaya namahOm kruraya namahOm gharaya namahOm shanir-mitraya

namahOm shukra-mitraya namahOm agocaraya namahOm mani ganga-snanadatre' namahOm

svagrihe' pravaladhyadaya

namahOm sad-grihe'anyabaladhrite' namahOm caturthe matri-nashakaya namahOm

candrayukte candalajati sihmajanmane rajyadatre namahOm mahakayaya namahOm

janma-kartre' namahOm vidhuripave' namahOm madakajnanadaya namahOm

janmakanyarajyadatre' namahOm janmahanidaya namahOm navame pitrihantre' namahOm

pancame' shokadayakaya namahOm dhyune' kalatrahantre' namahOm saptame

kalahapradaya namahOm shashthe' vittadatre' namahOm caturthe' vairadayaka

namahOm navame' papadatre' namahOm dashame shokadayakaya namahOm adau yashah

pradatre' namahOm ante vairapradayakaya namahOm kalatmane' namahOm gocaracaraya

namahOm ghane' kakutpradaya namahOm pancame' ghishanashringadaya namahOm

svarbhanave' namahOm baline' namahOm maha-saukhya-pradayine' namahOm

chandra-vairine namahOm shashvataya namahOm surashatrave' namahOm papagrahaya

namahOm shambhavaya namahOm pujyakaya namahOm

patirapuranaya namahOm paithinasakulodbhavaya bhakta-rakshaya namahOm

rahu-murtaye' namah Om sarva-bhishta-phala-pradaya namahOm dirghaya namahOm

krishnaya namahOm atanave' namah Om vishnu-netraraye' namahOm devaya namahOm

danavaya namah.Rahu seed mantra: Om bhram bhrim bhraum sah rahave namah.RESULT:

The planetary deity Rahu is pleased granting victory overenemies, favour from

the King or government, and reduction in diseasescaused by Rahu.I not only

in doing this kind of yajna or graha-shanta, but Iadvise Royalty,

heads of state, Bank Presidents, and VVIPs to do italso. In case of pleasing

Jupiter the gem would be Yellow Sapphire or topazto be given to a brahmin on

Guruvar at late afternoon during Shuklapaksha, along with all the other items

and mantras listed for Guru. And for pleasing Rahu it is giving a Gomeda to a

leper as describedabove. Another example is to

please Mars one gives a red coral to aSannyasi, to please Saturn a blue sapphire

and black cow given to a"poor young man" on Shanivar, etc.I have seen these

different graha yajnas performed for many differentplanets, and always with

obvious results. In fact, the last time Ihelped arrange one such yajna was for

a lady in America who was in RahuDasha and had Rahu debilitated in the 8th

house. I advised the RahuYajna or Ratna arpana to please Rahu. She already had

a fine Gomedaweighing 7 carats, but she couldn't find a leper to give it to in

theUSA. So I told her to send the gem to me, and I would arrange it.According I

got the gomeda, and with a desire to participate in theRahu ratna arpana myself,

I had it set in silver and put with a silverchain. I was ready, but, alas, in

Bangkok, Thailand you cannot find asingle leper. So I sent the gem set with

chain by hand to a friend inMumbai. This friend also had Rahu in the 8th and

also wanted toparticipate in the Rahu Yajna by actually finding a leper and

givingthem the gem set pendant over their necks on a chain. This personwaited

until Shukla Paksha Shanivar and then went and gave the Rahuratna talisman to a

real leper, and said, Om ram rahave namah!" Theytook a picture of when giving

to the leper. The whole thing took about4 months to complete (from when the

Gomeda was sent to me until it gotgiven to a leper).Result: For my little part

I played in pleasing Rahu by participatingin this ratna dana I was rewarded

with a real Valampuri Lakshmi Conchthat I had been seeking for 30 years, and I

got it without even askingor knowing within ONE WEEK of the Rahu Ratna Dana.

Now, it didn't takeaway my karma, no one can take away your karma, if we change

our karma,that is also our karma. So it was ripe for me to please Rahu, and

theresult was sudden and surprising, including other signs of

increasedgood fortune too, and for all concerned.We all know that

"ratna-dana-vidhi" has suggested donating gems toplease Grahadevas. And it was

in Graha Gochar Jyotish that I could findthe further details of complete

yajna-japa-recepient, which aredifferent for each planet.For complete

information on Ratna Dana, please see this page of my

1995book:http://www.agt-gems.com/Book/Appendage/Appendage.htmlNote: I

transliterated the 108 slokas for each planet, although Ididn't use diacritical

fonts, that would be better still.Best rgds,Richard--- In

sacred-objects, "Swee Chan" <swee wrote:>> Jaya

Jagannatha> > > > Dear Richard and Arjun,> > Namaste> > > > I do not

to donating a gomeda to a leper. Do you? What's

hegoing> to do? Take away your bad karma on your behalf when he himself

isriddled> with disease?> > We need to be more realistic here. The Puranas do

not tosuch> remedies. Instead, they do suggest dakshina to a

Brahmana/Purohit.This is> so that we hope the Brahmana/Purohit can take away

some of our badkarma.> This can be done in one of several ways: When transits

are averse orjust> before the person dies/or during a shraddha.> > My

suggestion is that, gifts (of gems and other items) have to benew and> not your

cast offs.> > > > Regarding the slokas sent by Richard (embedded below), these

are myinitial> thoughts:> > > > The language is not ancient Sanskrit where

there was less tendency ofusing> synonyms there (an opinion after reading tomes

of it; but am

noexpert!!)> > The slokas are more modern phenomenon to use words like

"Avaneya". Itis> interesting to note that midway in the first line of shloka 81

theauthor> has forgotten that he is writing for Viguna graha Dharanaa.

Certainlynot> something the ancients would do! I venture a guess that this

comesfrom> Jaina source of astrological texts which are of a much later

origin.Gaurav,> what do you think?> > > > But there does not appear to be any

variance about the ratnas thatneed to> be worn from that of Narada Purana as

long as we relate the Ratnaswhich are> recommended for Dana as they relate to

the grahas. > > > > What is in variance is in the matter of those that need to

be worn.> > > > A careful look indicates that the shlokas are describing Viguna

-meaning> that when

the grahas are inimical - for example, Jupiter is malefic> (functional malefic),

the recommendation is to wear Pearl. For Cancerlagna> Jupiter will be malefic

being the 6th moolatrikona lord, and here> strengthening Moon will certainly

make sense as Jupiter is going tocreate> health problems and also since Moon

does not own any bad house. Moreso if> Jupiter is occupying the 8th House!> >

> > In the 3rd sloka, the author appears to have changed the basis onwhich

he's> written the first two shlokas.> > > > For the meaning to be clear, one

must also get the shlokas, thatindicate> what is Viguna. I assume that it must

be given the book. Much woulddepend> on which position of a graha or its rasi

is called as Viguna.> > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] On

Behalf Of panditarjun2004> Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:28 AM> To:

vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Re: Translation of

slokas from Mani Malaon> Planetary G...> > > > namaste richard ji> > > > the

simple rule of anukul/pratikul remedies are clear like this.> > > > retain or

wear the objects of a beneficial planet.> > donate or throw in water the

objects of a malefic planet.> > > > in lalkitab system of remedies, this is

what is followed precisely.> > > > after years of research through lalkitab

remedies, i found stones > >

would work positively only if those planets are beneficial to the > > native in

a chart. when the planets are malefic, since natives > > cannot afford

donating precious stones, they can donate objects > > related to those malefic

planets. this is where lalkitab comes > > handy.> > > > i do not agree with

gauravji's observation that if you wear a pearn > > for moon, besides moon,

jupiter would also be benefited and at the > > same time mars gets debilitated.

in my knowledge stones have > > scientific properties and their single

objective is to > > receive/absorb the cosmic energies of the respective

planets. > > simply put, if you wear a stone for a particular planet, if that

> > planet is a benefic the native gets positive results, and if that > >

planet is malefic, the

native gets negative results.> > > > because of these ambivalence in stone

recommendations, i recommend > > rudraksha as several puranas attribute lords

to each rudaksha and > > also attribute what benefits the wearer gets. no

anukul, no > > pratikul. also it has no negative affects.> > > > with best

wishes> > arjun> > vedic astrology, "Richard Shaw-Brown

II" > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Sriman,> > > > > > The translations of

Mani Mala by Tagore - Verses 79-81 are > > correct. I have uploaded the > > >

original Sanskrit texts to the PHOTOS section of this group for > > anyone to

check.> > > > > > Verses 80-81 make no sense. Therefore it

appears that Mani Mala is > > an imperfect source > > > of gem knowledge. And it

should not be followed as is.> > > > > > One thing interesting is that books on

Indian gemology, like Mani > > Mala, they only talk > > > about adverse

planets. And they never mention what to do for > > Anukul planets (which is > >

> obviously to wear the gem for the Anukul graha, viz., Anukula-> > vad)!??> > >

> > > Point is that for Pratikul Graha we DONATE the gem (ratna-arpana), > > and

for Anukul Graha > > > we WEAR the gem. Based on the philosophy that gems

strengthen > > their plant when worn, > > > and reduce their planet when

donated. One is accepting, other is > > giving away.> > > > > > Best rgds,>

> > Richard> > > > > > vedic astrology, yobrevol@ wrote:>

> > >> > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > Namaste Richard

Ji,> > > > > > > > So they are actually correct. Please understand that my > >

reservations were > > > > not personal towards you in nature, rather towards

the stated > > translation. I am > > > > in agreement with you with the sloka

79 as I also come from > > Anukul school of > > > > thought as taught by my

guru. > > > > > > > > I am just trying to figure out why would mani mala say

what it > > states in > > > > sloka

80+...have you read another version of mani mala > > translated by another > >

> > author...?> > > > > > > > To think that we should wear Blue sapphire for

adverse moon is > > beyond my > > > > limited understanding, specially when we

make a blunt general > > statement like > > > > that...I mean moon is neither

exalted nor debilitated in saturn > > signs, and then > > > > the author of

mani mala further suggests wearing a pearl for > > adverse > > > >

Jupiter...where jupiter gets exalted, so their is inconsistency > > here...> >

> > > > > > Having said that, may be Guru Ji and other learned will throw > >

some light...> > > > >

> > > Namaste> > > > Gaurav Jain> > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/20/2006

3:57:55 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > > > rsbj66@ writes:> > > > > > > >

Dear Sriman,> > > > > > > > Namaste!!! I am not suggesting anything, these are

three slokas > > taken from > > > > Mani Mala > > > > written by SM Tagore

published in 1879. I'm just putting these > > slokas out > > > > for comment.>

> > > > > > > I personally agree with the first sloka 79. When Sun is adverse >

> one should > > > > DONATE a ruby, > > > > for adverse Moon one should donate

a pearl, as in Ratna-dana->

> vidhi> > > > > > > > And when these planets are beneficial (anukul) then one

should > > WEAR the > > > > associated gem, > > > > as if Sun is anukul in the

chart then Ruby can be worn, as in > > ratna-dharana.> > > > > > > > Gem should

be WORN for good planet / gem should be DONATED for > > bad planet.> > > > > >

> > I personally disagree with slokas 80-81. But as they are from > > the

famous > > > > Mani Mali so I > > > > have put them for your interest.> > > >

> > > > Best regards,> > > > Richard> > > > > > > >

vedic astrology, yobrevol@ wrote:>

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > > > Namaste

richard ji,> > > > > > > > > > If I am reading it correctly , what you are

suggesting via > > these slokas is > > > > > > > > > that we should give away

diamond to propitiate venus, and at > > the same time > > > > wear > > > > >

diamond when venus is adverse? and that we wear blue > > sapphire to nullify >

> > > > adverse effects of moon?....lets not forget that jupiter > > exalts in

> > > > cancer, so > > > > > how in the right mind can we suggest wearing

pearl

to "ward > > off" the > > > > adverse > > > > > effects of jupiter...? > > >

> > > > > > > are you sure about the authenticity of the translations?> > > >

> > > > > > Also, to the learned, where can I get a copy of Mani mala?> > > >

> > > > > > Namaste> > > > > Gaurav Jain> > > > > > > > > > In a message

dated 2/20/2006 2:50:03 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > > > > rsbj66@

writes:> > > > > > > > > > Translation 79: Ill Stars and how to propitiate

them by > > bestowal (dana)> > > > > of gems: >

> > > > > > > > > When the Sun is hostile (donate) a pure ruby; when the Moon,

> > a good> > > > > pearl; when Mangala, a good coral; when Budha, a good > >

emerald; when> > > > > Brihaspati, a good yellow sapphire; when Shukra, the >

> diamond; when> > > > > Shani, a good blue sapphire; when Rahu, the gomeda;

and when > > Ketu, a> > > > > good cat's eye, should be donated> > > > > > >

> > > Translation 80-81: Ill Stars and how to ward them off by > > wearing> >

> > > (dharan) of gems:> > > > > > > > > > If the Sun is adverse, (wear) the

cat's eye; if the Moon, > > the blue>

> > > > sapphire; if Mangala, the ruby; if Budha, the ruby too; if > >

Vrihaspati,> > > > > the pearl; if Shukra, the diamond; if Shani, the great

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