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has run into his hand and who nevertheless says, ‘Why, my hand is not at all

scratched or torn. It is all right.’ THIS KIND OF TALK WILL NOT DO. First of

all the thorn of body-consciousness has to be burnt into ashes by the fire of

Jnana."

-------------- Sri Ramakrishna Jnana and Bhakti are essentially the same!

Look at the various Stotras that Sri Adi Sankaracharya composed. They indicate

clearly that he had developed devotion to a very high degree. Self-surrender

leads to Jnana; and Jnana is synonymous with Para Bhakti (extreme devotion).

People nowadays condemn Bhakti and think that it is inferior to Jnana Yoga.

They have no understanding of Bhakti. They think that they can jump at once to

Jnana Yoga Sadhana. They have really no faith in God. They just acquire some

intellectual conception of God. This does not serve them. Jnana Yoga

without the necessary preparation is of no use. Sivaya Namah

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Aum.

 

What ever be the path, whole idea is burn the ego..Shiv Ji has stated 112

techniques

one of which is the Death Experience which also was used by Sri Ramana

Maharishi..

and your goodself..

 

Some of us take birth as mentally and physically challenged in the world..they

ignore

the world and world ignores them..they are in their own world ..with very little

ego left

and soon transcend..

 

In Bhakti, one totally surrenders..but surrendering should be total..even

without

thinking of liberation in return..that is very difficult either..it is like

running thru the

busy traffic road with eyes closed..that faith is required !!.simple tear and

vocal Jaap

will not do..devotion will fly away once any event contrary to own's own nature

happens..if one thinks that one is doinf bhakti then it is not bhakti..

 

In fact we all are thinkers and not seekers..truly speaking..Seekers donot

think..!!

 

In Jnana..even if one is being truly with the self..will spoil that state to

test and judge

if the state is bliss or not..

 

Liberation is a natural effortless process..mind has no place in the process..i

mean

mind making the effort..

 

Embrace the manifestation but as a witness as if all is happening as per cosmic

law..

without any personal doership..

 

A desire is a desire..whether for Jnana, Bhakti , as a family man or as a

brahmachari..to

worship Linga as this way or that way..correct chanting of the letters..or

not..to label

one's own desire itself is obstacle to liberation..

 

Linberation is neither thinking abt it nor aiming for it..it is Sahaja..

 

Om Namah Shivaya..

anil

 

 

, Selvaratnam Selvakumar

<selvauk> wrote:

>

> Om Namah Sivaya

>

> “Jnana Yoga is exceedingly difficult in this age of Kali. In the

first place, our life

in this age depends entirely upon food. Secondly, the term of human life now is

much

too short for this purpose. Thirdly, it is almost impossible in this age to get

rid of all

the illusion that the Self is one with the body, which cling to us. Now the

conclusion

which the Jnani must come to is: ‘I am not the body, I am one with the

Universal Soul,

the Absolute and Unconditional Being.’ ‘ As I am not the body, I am

not subject to the

conditions of the body, such as hunger, thirst, birth, death, disease and the

rest.’ One

subject to these physical conditions and yet calling oneself a Jnani, is like a

person

who is suffering from intense pain caused by a thorn that has run into his hand

and

who nevertheless says, ‘Why, my hand is not at all scratched or torn. It

is all right.’

THIS KIND OF TALK WILL NOT DO. First of all the thorn of body-consciousness

has to be burnt into ashes by the fire of

> Jnana."

> --------------

Sri Ramakrishna

>

> Jnana and Bhakti are essentially the same! Look at the various Stotras that

Sri Adi

Sankaracharya composed. They indicate clearly that he had developed devotion to

a

very high degree. Self-surrender leads to Jnana; and Jnana is synonymous with

Para

Bhakti (extreme devotion). People nowadays condemn Bhakti and think that it is

inferior to Jnana Yoga. They have no understanding of Bhakti. They think that

they

can jump at once to Jnana Yoga Sadhana. They have really no faith in God. They

just

acquire some intellectual conception of God. This does not serve them. Jnana

Yoga

without the necessary preparation is of no use.

>

> Sivaya Namah

>

>

>

>

>

>

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online search now

>

>

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