God with Form

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I had the blessing to perform Pujas, cleaning temples, lamps, gather flowers,

serving devotees and singing Bhajans. The first spiritual experience I had once

I was performing arathi to Mother Durga, I felt like an electric current passes

from feet to the head three times, I didn’t know what it was at that time. I

came to the

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mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">UK in 1989 (I was 13 years old) and I have

continued with my service to the Lord and His devotees in a nearby temple, I

get my true happiness by doing this. I love performing Siva Puja twice a day in

my home shrine, doing Om Namah Sivaya Japa, singing devotional poems written by

great Saivite saints, listing to devotional songs, fasting, reading lives of

devotees of Lord Siva and Scriptures,attending temples. I don't feel the

need to spend much time doing meditation, as Mother Kundalini nursing me like a

mother does to her new born baby. She is preparing me for higher spiritual

life; I can observe that internal spiritual transformation happening, my mind

becoming one pointed, She keeps consciousness of my mind between physical and

spiritual (double-consciousness), so that I can do worldly activities and at

the same time partially immerse in Sivanandam (Bliss). I am not after ANY

supernatural powers, all I am after is , pure, unalloyed, ETHERNAL and

overflowing devotion unto Lord Siva. To

tell you the truth I am not after Ultimate Liberation, I know that the direct

way to attain Ultimate Liberation is to destroy the ego by attaining Jnana

(Divine Wisdom) by the Grace of Lord Siva. As far as I am concern, all the

souls can eventually achieve Ultimate Liberation, but only a few will qualify

to become an eternal servant of Lord Siva (Like Sri Nandi ). I actually saw in

my vision how Sri Nandi ( with divine-body form) serving His beloved Lord ,

this has deeply inspired me, Sri Nandi is a Great Maharishi himself. You might

say Lord Siva’s Divine-Form is maya ,

Saivite Saints/Sages say: Sivam + Sakti = Lord Siva (Personnel God with Form)

Lord Siva – Sakti = Sivam (Impersonal Formless God) Sivam = Static Aspect of

the Supreme God Sakti = Dynamic Aspect of the Supreme God So Formless God

(Sivam) become Isvara (Supreme ruler of the Universe- with Form) with the aid

of His inseparable Power Sakti. The Veda says, the process of Creation,

Preservation and Destruction is eternal, so there must be an eternal Isvara.

Many Saivite saints suggest entering the Siva-Joyti Space (Kailasa) as an ideal

goal. The Supreme Consciousness world (Kailsa/ Siva-Loka) is referred by Rishi

Tirumular (a direct disciple of Lord Siva) as Suddha Maya (Pure Spirit) Sphere,

he describes Antarloka as Asuddha Maya (impure Spirit) Sphere and the Earth as

Prakriti Maya Sphere.

Roman"> Ramana Maharishi never denied the existence of Isvara (Lord Siva) or

Kailasa. His teaching is direct, results in realising Sivam (Impersonal

Fomless God, i.e all pervading Supreme Being - I) but is also very difficult

path. Sri Ramakrishna says that in order to practice Jnana yoga, one must

renounce the world both internally and externally. Ramana Maharishi himself set

a perfect example for his followers. Ramana Maharishi says that his teaching is

not meant for immature souls because it might put them off from spiritual

practices (i.e they might thing I am

God anyway and what is the point of doing sadhana). I have done extensive

reading of Hindu Scriptures AFTER my spiritual experience ( prior to this I

hardy knew anything, I only knew lives of Saivite saints, devotional songs, how

to perform Pujas and serve devotees), it was blessing of Lord Siva that some

days before Kundalini awakening , I accidently saw Sayings of Sri Ramakrishna

book in a Bookshop, I bought it and from his teaching I came to know something

called Kundalini exist, when Kundalini awakened I couldn't withstand the heat,

I first thought I was suffering from high fever, so I went to see a doctor and

I was told that my body temperature was fine but my skin was hot, the only

advice I received was, drink plenty

of water. I then went and read the book and I totally convinced that it must be

due to awakening of Kundalini, I always regard Sri Ramakrishna as my Guru

because I felt as if he was right next to me and guided me. I have read the

Brama Sutras recently, this scripture focus on enquiry into the nature of God

and it says that leaving the body at the time of death via the door of

Brahmarandhra one attains moksa by entering the Divine world, but Sri Adi

Sankara refuted this and in his commentary

to the Brama Sutras, he said as long as you have a body, then you can't be

Ultimately Liberated because body is a limitation, in the divine world one has

to have a divine-body and divine ego, so you can only attain karma-mukti by

entering this world and futher sadhana is necessary for the Ultimate Liberation

(i.e even this ego need to be dissolved). I totally agree with his conclusion.

Having said this, I have no objection to have a divine-body and serve Lord Siva

in Kailasa, I have a deep desire to serve Lord Siva forever. This is my Goal if

Lord Siva's Grace grant me this boon.

Sivaya Namah anil_bindal2000 <no_reply> wrote: Sir,With folded

hands..shiva in me bows to Shiva in you..Kindly allow me to says few words..1)

Be sure that whatever happened did not happen in Yog Tandra2) My personal

opninion is that purpose of manifestation is to see Lord Shiva in conscious

state..in the awakened state..If Salvation had to happen in the out of body ,

Divine dream experiences etc..all would have got salvation by now..Kind of

experiences you describe are similar to Maha Yogis similar to Maharishi Ramana

but even Maharishi says that in dreams if one sees the GOD, one should remain

in a conscious state and ask - Who is this that is

experiencing the dream ??Sab Gorakh ki Maya

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Sir,

 

You have the dear blessings of Lord Shiva..

 

my suggestion is donot have an imaginary goal - like - divine

body..Kailash..etc..

 

Just concentrate on the goal of serving Shiva..period..

how..when..is not to be pondered/believed..for then it becomes a manifestation..

 

Do we know where Hanumanji is currently ?..He is doing bhakti for Lord..in

form..and

that is it..how..when were never defined for him..

 

Having any verbal..or visionary goal will manifest if you so desire..

 

BUT Still..

 

when the mind is at still..and if you re-read your written email..in a state

when even the

bhakti or devotion is not there..no feelings..you will find a different

answer..and a

different goal..try it..

 

sometimes..i hesitate to write..for i have been told that i write too much about

self

experiences and not on Shiva..and for the fear of being taken as egoist..so

pardon

me..

 

Actually..we have undergone countless births - if we believe in Atman and

Parmatman

...there is no dirth of seekers and what they sought..along with the innumerous

paths..

 

i am only a small fry in the kitchen..but feel at times..that may be we are

trying to reach

non-duality from duality..what if this foundation is wrong..may be the path is

that I AM

SHIVA and all duality originates from ME..

 

Shivoham..Shivoham ??

 

Baki..

 

Saab Gorakh ki Maya..

 

May Lord Shiva bless us all

 

anil

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This is one good source of audio. I am not sure if you can download or you have

to play while connected to the Internet. But worth the visit nonetheless as a

lovely recording of 'Om Namah Sivaya'.

 

http://www.divyajivan.org/multimedia.htm

 

Hope this helps.

 

Kind regards

 

Anand

 

[] On Behalf Of Sunil24

January 2006 12:58Subject:

Re: God with Form

Sir,

 

OM NAMAH SHIVAYA

 

I want to download the Chantable Om Namah Shivaya Mantra for my computer. I have

tried to search the same thru internet like google etc., but could not get the

same. Can any one tell me, from where I can download the mantra.

Thanks

 

Sunil

 

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Dear Sunil ji

Thank for the message,here is the link for you to download om namah

shivaya mantra.

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.net/audio5_en.html

regards

Prasanna kumar

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Dear Sir,

 

I am deeply moved by your experiences, but I have a

question, what do you mean by serving lord shiva. how

do we serve the lord?

isnt serving humanity not serving the lord?.

 

Please let me know,

Divakar.

 

--- Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk

wrote:

 

> Om Namah Sivaya

>

> Dear Sri Anil,

>

> First of all I would like to describe my

> background to you. From my age of 5 to 12, I have

> been blessed with doing selfless service to Lord

> Siva and Divine Mother. There are three small

> temples (Siva, Kali and Durga) in my village in Sri

> Lanka. I had the blessing to perform Pujas, cleaning

> temples, lamps, gather flowers, serving devotees and

> singing Bhajans. The first spiritual experience I

> had once I was performing arathi to Mother Durga, I

> felt like an electric current passes from feet to

> the head three times, I didn’t know what it was at

> that time.

>

> I came to the UK in 1989 (I was 13 years old) and

> I have continued with my service to the Lord and His

> devotees in a nearby temple, I get my true happiness

> by doing this. I love performing Siva Puja twice a

> day in my home shrine, doing Om Namah Sivaya Japa,

> singing devotional poems written by great Saivite

> saints, listing to devotional songs, fasting,

> reading lives of devotees of Lord Siva and

> Scriptures,attending temples. I don't feel the need

> to spend much time doing meditation, as Mother

> Kundalini nursing me like a mother does to her new

> born baby. She is preparing me for higher spiritual

> life; I can observe that internal spiritual

> transformation happening, my mind becoming one

> pointed, She keeps consciousness of my mind between

> physical and spiritual (double-consciousness), so

> that I can do worldly activities and at the same

> time partially immerse in Sivanandam (Bliss). I am

> not after ANY supernatural powers, all I am after is

> , pure, unalloyed, ETHERNAL and overflowing

> devotion unto Lord Siva. To tell you the truth I am

> not after Ultimate Liberation, I know that the

> direct way to attain Ultimate Liberation is to

> destroy the ego by attaining Jnana (Divine Wisdom)

> by the Grace of Lord Siva.

>

> As far as I am concern, all the souls can

> eventually achieve Ultimate Liberation, but only a

> few will qualify to become an eternal servant of

> Lord Siva (Like Sri Nandi ). I actually saw in my

> vision how Sri Nandi ( with divine-body form)

> serving His beloved Lord , this has deeply inspired

> me, Sri Nandi is a Great Maharishi himself. You

> might say Lord Siva’s Divine-Form is maya , Saivite

> Saints/Sages say:

> Sivam + Sakti = Lord Siva (Personnel God with

> Form)

> Lord Siva – Sakti = Sivam (Impersonal Formless

> God)

> Sivam = Static Aspect of the Supreme God

> Sakti = Dynamic Aspect of the Supreme God

>

> So Formless God (Sivam) become Isvara (Supreme

> ruler of the Universe- with Form) with the aid of

> His inseparable Power Sakti. The Veda says, the

> process of Creation, Preservation and Destruction is

> eternal, so there must be an eternal Isvara. Many

> Saivite saints suggest entering the Siva-Joyti Space

> (Kailasa) as an ideal goal. The Supreme

> Consciousness world (Kailsa/ Siva-Loka) is referred

> by Rishi Tirumular (a direct disciple of Lord Siva)

> as Suddha Maya (Pure Spirit) Sphere, he describes

> Antarloka as Asuddha Maya (impure Spirit) Sphere and

> the Earth as Prakriti Maya Sphere.

>

>

> Ramana Maharishi never denied the existence of

> Isvara (Lord Siva) or Kailasa. His teaching is

> direct, results in realising Sivam (Impersonal

> Fomless God, i.e all pervading Supreme Being - I)

> but is also very difficult path. Sri Ramakrishna

> says that in order to practice Jnana yoga, one must

> renounce the world both internally and externally.

> Ramana Maharishi himself set a perfect example for

> his followers. Ramana Maharishi says that his

> teaching is not meant for immature souls because it

> might put them off from spiritual practices (i.e

> they might thing I am God anyway and what is the

> point of doing sadhana).

>

> I have done extensive reading of Hindu Scriptures

> AFTER my spiritual experience ( prior to this I

> hardy knew anything, I only knew lives of Saivite

> saints, devotional songs, how to perform Pujas and

> serve devotees), it was blessing of Lord Siva that

> some days before Kundalini awakening , I accidently

> saw Sayings of Sri Ramakrishna book in a Bookshop, I

> bought it and from his teaching I came to know

> something called Kundalini exist, when Kundalini

> awakened I couldn't withstand the heat, I first

> thought I was suffering from high fever, so I went

> to see a doctor and I was told that my body

> temperature was fine but my skin was hot, the only

> advice I received was, drink plenty of water. I then

> went and read the book and I totally convinced that

> it must be due to awakening of Kundalini, I always

> regard Sri Ramakrishna as my Guru because I felt as

> if he was right next to me and guided me.

>

> I have read the Brama Sutras recently, this

> scripture focus on enquiry into the nature of God

> and it says that leaving the body at the time of

> death via the door of Brahmarandhra one attains

> moksa by entering the Divine world, but Sri Adi

> Sankara refuted this and in his commentary to the

> Brama Sutras, he said as long as you have a body,

> then you can't be Ultimately Liberated because body

> is a limitation, in the divine world one has to have

> a divine-body and divine ego, so you can only attain

> karma-mukti by entering this world and futher

> sadhana is necessary for the Ultimate Liberation

> (i.e even this ego need to be dissolved). I totally

> agree with his conclusion.

>

> Having said this, I have no objection to have a

> divine-body and serve Lord Siva in Kailasa, I have a

> deep desire to serve Lord Siva forever. This is my

> Goal if Lord Siva's Grace grant me this boon.

>

> Sivaya Namah

>

>

> anil_bindal2000 <no_reply> wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> With folded hands..shiva in me bows to Shiva in

> you..

>

> Kindly allow me to says few words..

>

> 1) Be sure that whatever happened did not happen in

> Yog Tandra

> 2) My personal opninion is that purpose of

> manifestation is to see Lord Shiva in

> conscious state..in the awakened state..

>

> If Salvation had to happen in the out of body ,

> Divine dream experiences etc..all

> would have got salvation by now..

>

> Kind of experiences you describe are similar to Maha

> Yogis similar to Maharishi

> Ramana but even Maharishi says that in dreams if one

> sees the GOD, one should

> remain in a conscious state and ask - Who is this

> that is experiencing the dream ??

>

> Sab Gorakh ki Maya

>

>

>

>

>

>

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