Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 people are often selfish people tied down to their families and close friends. Their heart is still constricted. They are still followers of the Preyo Marga (path of immediate pleasure). They have some vague ideas about the Sreyo Marga (path of ultimate good), but are afraid to step on to the Sreyo Marga, afraid to pay the price of the Sreyo Marga. They have their fears about the sacrifices they will be called upon to make if they step onto the spiritual path. They cannot reconcile themselves to thoughts of making charity, loving strangers and enemies, eating in moderation, practising austerities, controlling anger and jealousy and things like that. If a person wants to register spiritual progress in life, he should first have this misunderstanding in his mind cleared. A good life is inadequate. What these people mean by ‘good life’ will be found to be, on close inspection, just a ‘non-evil life’. It is negative goodness. This alone will not do. Every man is a combination of beastliness, human nature and godliness. People who boast about their good life will generally be found to have transcended the beastly qualities in them, but that is only a beginning. They are still very much subject to the innumerable human foibles, failings and likes and dislikes. They suffer still from human vices like anger, jealousy and lust. Quite often they will justify their wrong actions by expressing a thought like this: "Arey Yaar! After all, I am human. In a fit of passion, I made a mistake" or "In a fit of anger, I committed that crime" or "Under a sudden impulse of greed, I made that blunder". These good people have still to conquer the human vices in them and cultivate the divine virtues or Daivi Sampat enunciated in the Gita. That is the beginning of spiritual practice. That is the beginning of a divine life. That is stepping on the road to Heaven. These men of little understanding—of meagre spiritual wisdom—identify good life with a pleasant life. They are men of weak will who are unwilling to face the unpleasantness and rigours of a truly spiritual life. You can see these people all over the world, in all walks of life, in all religions. Some of them openly deny the existence of God, but mostly affirm allegiance to formal religion, because they still have a flickering conscience. Their inner conscience, the voice of God within them, is still not completely stifled, is still not totally dead. Not only that. These friends suffer from a false sense of self-satisfaction and self-sufficiency. Since, by virtue of a little meritorious action in their previous lives, God has blessed them with creature comforts in the present life, they feel no need for any God, for any extraneous help. Their philosophy is: "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die". If you ask them, "What will happen to you in the next birth if you don’t accumulate merit by virtuous actions in the present birth?", they have their ready answer which they fling at you "Who knows if there is another birth? Who knows what happens when you die?" For them, the present life is all. Even if you try to tell them about the reincarnation theory, which has been demonstrated and reinforced by the discovery of so many real-life instances and supporting evidence, they are in no mood to listen. They have a closed mind. They suffer from a sense of self-sufficiency. Self-sufficiency and self-justification are among the greatest stumbling blocks to spiritual progress. The man who is ignorant but is willing to take in wisdom from whatever source it comes, in other words, the ignorant but humble man, can be helped by a man of greater wisdom. The man who is already wise, but who is unable to practise his wisdom in daily life because of his overwhelming pride, also has a chance to improve, because his pride will encounter resistance from the universe and will be quelled in due course. Then he will become humble and will begin to live wisely. But the ignorant man who is at the same time arrogant, who is at the same time filled with the notion that he is all-wise, is the most difficult of all to reform. Even God cannot help him. His is a hopeless situation. Now start going from Goodness to Godliness. May his blessings be with us. Yours George Pillai http://rudraaksha.com Meet your soulmate! Asia presents Meetic - where millions of singles gather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 very rightly said George Ji. In fact Hitler went to heaven.. regards anil , pillai george <pillai_george@y. ...> wrote: > > People very often fail to draw a distinction between good life and God-life or Divine Life. There are many well-intentioned individuals who think somewhat on the following lines: "Well, I am leading a good life. I am happily married. I live a clean life. I don't drink; I don't smoke; I have no bad habits. I am a vegetarian; I don't take even eggs. I don't cheat anyone. I earn by the sweat of my brow. What more do you want? ". Essentially, these are good people. They are certainly superior to the rogues and cheats and scoundrels of this world. They follow certain ethical codes. They pass for respectable citizens. All this is good. All these qualities make a good foundation. But, a foundation is not a building. It is not enough by itself. The superstructure, the building, has to come up. > > Goodness is not Godliness. Goodness makes for a good life in this world, but it will not bring spiritual salvation. The so-called good people are often selfish people tied down to their families and close friends. Their heart is still constricted. They are still followers of the Preyo Marga (path of immediate pleasure). They have some vague ideas about the Sreyo Marga (path of ultimate good), but are afraid to step on to the Sreyo Marga, afraid to pay the price of the Sreyo Marga. They have their fears about the sacrifices they will be called upon to make if they step onto the spiritual path. They cannot reconcile themselves to thoughts of making charity, loving strangers and enemies, eating in moderation, practising austerities, controlling anger and jealousy and things like that. > > If a person wants to register spiritual progress in life, he should first have this misunderstanding in his mind cleared. A good life is inadequate. What these people mean by `good life' will be found to be, on close inspection, just a `non-evil life'. It is negative goodness. This alone will not do. > > Every man is a combination of beastliness, human nature and godliness. People who boast about their good life will generally be found to have transcended the beastly qualities in them, but that is only a beginning. They are still very much subject to the innumerable human foibles, failings and likes and dislikes. They suffer still from human vices like anger, jealousy and lust. > > Quite often they will justify their wrong actions by expressing a thought like this: "Arey Yaar! After all, I am human. In a fit of passion, I made a mistake" or "In a fit of anger, I committed that crime" or "Under a sudden impulse of greed, I made that blunder". These good people have still to conquer the human vices in them and cultivate the divine virtues or Daivi Sampat enunciated in the Gita. That is the beginning of spiritual practice. That is the beginning of a divine life. That is stepping on the road to Heaven. > > These men of little understanding—of meagre spiritual wisdom—identify good life with a pleasant life. They are men of weak will who are unwilling to face the unpleasantness and rigours of a truly spiritual life. You can see these people all over the world, in all walks of life, in all religions. Some of them openly deny the existence of God, but mostly affirm allegiance to formal religion, because they still have a flickering conscience. Their inner conscience, the voice of God within them, is still not completely stifled, is still not totally dead. > > Not only that. These friends suffer from a false sense of self-satisfaction and self- sufficiency. Since, by virtue of a little meritorious action in their previous lives, God has blessed them with creature comforts in the present life, they feel no need for any God, for any extraneous help. Their philosophy is: "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die". If you ask them, "What will happen to you in the next birth if you don't accumulate merit by virtuous actions in the present birth?", they have their ready answer which they fling at you "Who knows if there is another birth? Who knows what happens when you die?" For them, the present life is all. Even if you try to tell them about the reincarnation theory, which has been demonstrated and reinforced by the discovery of so many real-life instances and supporting evidence, they are in no mood to listen. They have a closed mind. They suffer from a sense of self-sufficiency. > > Self-sufficiency and self-justification are among the greatest stumbling blocks to spiritual progress. The man who is ignorant but is willing to take in wisdom from whatever source it comes, in other words, the ignorant but humble man, can be helped by a man of greater wisdom. The man who is already wise, but who is unable to practise his wisdom in daily life because of his overwhelming pride, also has a chance to improve, because his pride will encounter resistance from the universe and will be quelled in due course. Then he will become humble and will begin to live wisely. But the ignorant man who is at the same time arrogant, who is at the same time filled with the notion that he is all-wise, is the most difficult of all to reform. Even God cannot help him. His is a hopeless situation. Now start going from Goodness to Godliness. May his blessings be with us. > > Yours > George Pillai > http://rudraaksha.com > > > > > > Meet your soulmate! > Asia presents Meetic - where millions of singles gather > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Beautiful Article George ji, Godliness needs TRUTH, COMPASSION, caring, forgiveness and Love, There is nothing above all this. Om namah shivaya, Divakar. --- pillai george <pillai_george wrote: > People very often fail to draw a distinction > between good life and God-life or Divine Life. There > are many well-intentioned individuals who think > somewhat on the following lines: "Well, I am leading > a good life. I am happily married. I live a clean > life. I don’t drink; I don’t smoke; I have no bad > habits. I am a vegetarian; I don’t take even eggs. I > don’t cheat anyone. I earn by the sweat of my brow. > What more do you want?". Essentially, these are good > people. They are certainly superior to the rogues > and cheats and scoundrels of this world. They follow > certain ethical codes. They pass for respectable > citizens. All this is good. All these qualities make > a good foundation. But, a foundation is not a > building. It is not enough by itself. The > superstructure, the building, has to come up. > > Goodness is not Godliness. Goodness makes for a > good life in this world, but it will not bring > spiritual salvation. The so-called good people are > often selfish people tied down to their families and > close friends. Their heart is still constricted. > They are still followers of the Preyo Marga (path of > immediate pleasure). They have some vague ideas > about the Sreyo Marga (path of ultimate good), but > are afraid to step on to the Sreyo Marga, afraid to > pay the price of the Sreyo Marga. They have their > fears about the sacrifices they will be called upon > to make if they step onto the spiritual path. They > cannot reconcile themselves to thoughts of making > charity, loving strangers and enemies, eating in > moderation, practising austerities, controlling > anger and jealousy and things like that. > > If a person wants to register spiritual progress > in life, he should first have this misunderstanding > in his mind cleared. A good life is inadequate. What > these people mean by ‘good life’ will be found to > be, on close inspection, just a ‘non-evil life’. It > is negative goodness. This alone will not do. > > Every man is a combination of beastliness, human > nature and godliness. People who boast about their > good life will generally be found to have > transcended the beastly qualities in them, but that > is only a beginning. They are still very much > subject to the innumerable human foibles, failings > and likes and dislikes. They suffer still from human > vices like anger, jealousy and lust. > > Quite often they will justify their wrong actions > by expressing a thought like this: "Arey Yaar! After > all, I am human. In a fit of passion, I made a > mistake" or "In a fit of anger, I committed that > crime" or "Under a sudden impulse of greed, I made > that blunder". These good people have still to > conquer the human vices in them and cultivate the > divine virtues or Daivi Sampat enunciated in the > Gita. That is the beginning of spiritual practice. > That is the beginning of a divine life. That is > stepping on the road to Heaven. > > These men of little understanding—of meagre > spiritual wisdom—identify good life with a pleasant > life. They are men of weak will who are unwilling to > face the unpleasantness and rigours of a truly > spiritual life. You can see these people all over > the world, in all walks of life, in all religions. > Some of them openly deny the existence of God, but > mostly affirm allegiance to formal religion, because > they still have a flickering conscience. Their inner > conscience, the voice of God within them, is still > not completely stifled, is still not totally dead. > > Not only that. These friends suffer from a false > sense of self-satisfaction and self-sufficiency. > Since, by virtue of a little meritorious action in > their previous lives, God has blessed them with > creature comforts in the present life, they feel no > need for any God, for any extraneous help. Their > philosophy is: "Eat, drink and be merry, for > tomorrow we die". If you ask them, "What will happen > to you in the next birth if you don’t accumulate > merit by virtuous actions in the present birth?", > they have their ready answer which they fling at you > "Who knows if there is another birth? Who knows what > happens when you die?" For them, the present life is > all. Even if you try to tell them about the > reincarnation theory, which has been demonstrated > and reinforced by the discovery of so many real-life > instances and supporting evidence, they are in no > mood to listen. They have a closed mind. They suffer > from a sense of self-sufficiency. > > Self-sufficiency and self-justification are among > the greatest stumbling blocks to spiritual progress. > The man who is ignorant but is willing to take in > wisdom from whatever source it comes, in other > words, the ignorant but humble man, can be helped by > a man of greater wisdom. The man who is already > wise, but who is unable to practise his wisdom in > daily life because of his overwhelming pride, also > has a chance to improve, because his pride will > encounter resistance from the universe and will be > quelled in due course. Then he will become humble > and will begin to live wisely. But the ignorant man > who is at the same time arrogant, who is at the same > time filled with the notion that he is all-wise, is > the most difficult of all to reform. Even God cannot > help him. His is a hopeless situation. Now start > going from Goodness to Godliness. May his blessings > be with us. > > Yours > George Pillai > http://rudraaksha.com > > > > > > Meet your soulmate! > Asia presents Meetic - where millions of > singles gather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Sir, a role is a role..in a play.. collective consciousness sometimes generates a need for a character which apparently seems very extreme..but that is the manifestation..just a role.. in satyug, character could be Lord Ram..and so on.. i myself have not seen Hitler and the heaven..it was stated in a book - Conversations with GOD..by Neil.. if the world shudders now in the name of Hitler..why would there be the Hitler then ?? Om Namah Shivaya.. , Philip Miller <pem218> wrote: > > Anilji - > > Hitler in heaven? I shudder to think of what Hitler's future lives will be and the sheer weight of karma. > > Philip > > anil_bindal2000 <no_reply> wrote: very rightly said George Ji. > > In fact Hitler went to heaven.. > > regards > anil > , pillai george <pillai_george@y. > ..> wrote: > > > > People very often fail to draw a distinction between good life and God-life or > Divine Life. There are many well-intentioned individuals who think somewhat on the > following lines: "Well, I am leading a good life. I am happily married. I live a clean life. I > don't drink; I don't smoke; I have no bad habits. I am a vegetarian; I don't take even > eggs. I don't cheat anyone. I earn by the sweat of my brow. What more do you want? > ". Essentially, these are good people. They are certainly superior to the rogues and > cheats and scoundrels of this world. They follow certain ethical codes. They pass for > respectable citizens. All this is good. All these qualities make a good foundation. But, > a foundation is not a building. It is not enough by itself. The superstructure, the > building, has to come up. > > > > Goodness is not Godliness. Goodness makes for a good life in this world, but it > will not bring spiritual salvation. The so-called good people are often selfish people > tied down to their families and close friends. Their heart is still constricted. They are > still followers of the Preyo Marga (path of immediate pleasure). They have some > vague ideas about the Sreyo Marga (path of ultimate good), but are afraid to step on > to the Sreyo Marga, afraid to pay the price of the Sreyo Marga. They have their fears > about the sacrifices they will be called upon to make if they step onto the spiritual > path. They cannot reconcile themselves to thoughts of making charity, loving > strangers and enemies, eating in moderation, practising austerities, controlling anger > and jealousy and things like that. > > > > If a person wants to register spiritual progress in life, he should first have this > misunderstanding in his mind cleared. A good life is inadequate. What these people > mean by `good life' will be found to be, on close inspection, just a `non-evil life'. It is > negative goodness. This alone will not do. > > > > Every man is a combination of beastliness, human nature and godliness. People > who boast about their good life will generally be found to have transcended the > beastly qualities in them, but that is only a beginning. They are still very much subject > to the innumerable human foibles, failings and likes and dislikes. They suffer still from > human vices like anger, jealousy and lust. > > > > Quite often they will justify their wrong actions by expressing a thought like this: > "Arey Yaar! After all, I am human. In a fit of passion, I made a mistake" or "In a fit of > anger, I committed that crime" or "Under a sudden impulse of greed, I made that > blunder". These good people have still to conquer the human vices in them and > cultivate the divine virtues or Daivi Sampat enunciated in the Gita. That is the > beginning of spiritual practice. That is the beginning of a divine life. That is stepping > on the road to Heaven. > > > > These men of little understanding—of meagre spiritual wisdom—identify good life > with a pleasant life. They are men of weak will who are unwilling to face the > unpleasantness and rigours of a truly spiritual life. You can see these people all over > the world, in all walks of life, in all religions. Some of them openly deny the existence > of God, but mostly affirm allegiance to formal religion, because they still have a > flickering conscience. Their inner conscience, the voice of God within them, is still > not completely stifled, is still not totally dead. > > > > Not only that. These friends suffer from a false sense of self-satisfaction and self- > sufficiency. Since, by virtue of a little meritorious action in their previous lives, God > has blessed them with creature comforts in the present life, they feel no need for any > God, for any extraneous help. Their philosophy is: "Eat, drink and be merry, for > tomorrow we die". If you ask them, "What will happen to you in the next birth if you > don't accumulate merit by virtuous actions in the present birth?", they have their ready > answer which they fling at you "Who knows if there is another birth? Who knows what > happens when you die?" For them, the present life is all. Even if you try to tell them > about the reincarnation theory, which has been demonstrated and reinforced by the > discovery of so many real-life instances and supporting evidence, they are in no > mood to listen. They have a closed mind. They suffer from a sense of self-sufficiency. > > > > Self-sufficiency and self-justification are among the greatest stumbling blocks to > spiritual progress. The man who is ignorant but is willing to take in wisdom from > whatever source it comes, in other words, the ignorant but humble man, can be > helped by a man of greater wisdom. The man who is already wise, but who is unable > to practise his wisdom in daily life because of his overwhelming pride, also has a > chance to improve, because his pride will encounter resistance from the universe and > will be quelled in due course. Then he will become humble and will begin to live > wisely. But the ignorant man who is at the same time arrogant, who is at the same time > filled with the notion that he is all-wise, is the most difficult of all to reform. Even God > cannot help him. His is a hopeless situation. Now start going from Goodness to > Godliness. May his blessings be with us. > > > > Yours > > George Pillai > > http://rudraaksha.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Meet your soulmate! > > Asia presents Meetic - where millions of singles gather > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover > Photo Books. 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Guest guest Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 The distinction between pleasant life,good life and God Life or spiritual life is very well explained by Sri Pillai Gergeji.Good life is only a foundation to have the building of Divine life.From Preyomarga one has to shift to Sreyo Marga to attain salvation.One should not be satisfied by merely leading a good life to have a better Janma in ones next birth.Really the message is an eye-opener for all people leading good life to turn to lead Spiritual life. Regards, Jabalimuni pillai george <pillai_george wrote: People very often fail to draw a distinction between good life and God-life or Divine Life. There are many well-intentioned individuals who think somewhat on the following lines: "Well, I am leading a good life. I am happily married. I live a clean life. I don't drink; I don't smoke; I have no bad habits. I am a vegetarian; I don't take even eggs. I don't cheat anyone. I earn by the sweat of my brow. What more do you want?". Essentially, these are good people. They are certainly superior to the rogues and cheats and scoundrels of this world. They follow certain ethical codes. They pass for respectable citizens. All this is good. All these qualities make a good foundation. But, a foundation is not a building. It is not enough by itself. The superstructure, the building, has to come up. Goodness is not Godliness. Goodness makes for a good life in this world, but it will not bring spiritual salvation. The so-called good people are often selfish people tied down to their families and close friends. Their heart is still constricted. They are still followers of the Preyo Marga (path of immediate pleasure). They have some vague ideas about the Sreyo Marga (path of ultimate good), but are afraid to step on to the Sreyo Marga, afraid to pay the price of the Sreyo Marga. They have their fears about the sacrifices they will be called upon to make if they step onto the spiritual path. They cannot reconcile themselves to thoughts of making charity, loving strangers and enemies, eating in moderation, practising austerities, controlling anger and jealousy and things like that. If a person wants to register spiritual progress in life, he should first have this misunderstanding in his mind cleared. A good life is inadequate. What these people mean by `good life' will be found to be, on close inspection, just a `non-evil life'. It is negative goodness. This alone will not do. Every man is a combination of beastliness, human nature and godliness. People who boast about their good life will generally be found to have transcended the beastly qualities in them, but that is only a beginning. They are still very much subject to the innumerable human foibles, failings and likes and dislikes. They suffer still from human vices like anger, jealousy and lust. Quite often they will justify their wrong actions by expressing a thought like this: "Arey Yaar! After all, I am human. In a fit of passion, I made a mistake" or "In a fit of anger, I committed that crime" or "Under a sudden impulse of greed, I made that blunder". These good people have still to conquer the human vices in them and cultivate the divine virtues or Daivi Sampat enunciated in the Gita. That is the beginning of spiritual practice. That is the beginning of a divine life. That is stepping on the road to Heaven. These men of little understanding—of meagre spiritual wisdom— identify good life with a pleasant life. They are men of weak will who are unwilling to face the unpleasantness and rigours of a truly spiritual life. You can see these people all over the world, in all walks of life, in all religions. Some of them openly deny the existence of God, but mostly affirm allegiance to formal religion, because they still have a flickering conscience. Their inner conscience, the voice of God within them, is still not completely stifled, is still not totally dead. Not only that. These friends suffer from a false sense of self- satisfaction and self-sufficiency. Since, by virtue of a little meritorious action in their previous lives, God has blessed them with creature comforts in the present life, they feel no need for any God, for any extraneous help. Their philosophy is: "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die". If you ask them, "What will happen to you in the next birth if you don't accumulate merit by virtuous actions in the present birth?", they have their ready answer which they fling at you "Who knows if there is another birth? Who knows what happens when you die?" For them, the present life is all. Even if you try to tell them about the reincarnation theory, which has been demonstrated and reinforced by the discovery of so many real-life instances and supporting evidence, they are in no mood to listen. They have a closed mind. They suffer from a sense of self-sufficiency. Self-sufficiency and self-justification are among the greatest stumbling blocks to spiritual progress. The man who is ignorant but is willing to take in wisdom from whatever source it comes, in other words, the ignorant but humble man, can be helped by a man of greater wisdom. The man who is already wise, but who is unable to practise his wisdom in daily life because of his overwhelming pride, also has a chance to improve, because his pride will encounter resistance from the universe and will be quelled in due course. Then he will become humble and will begin to live wisely. But the ignorant man who is at the same time arrogant, who is at the same time filled with the notion that he is all-wise, is the most difficult of all to reform. Even God cannot help him. His is a hopeless situation. Now start going from Goodness to Godliness. May his blessings be with us. Yours George Pillai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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