Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 come across a article on rudra centre: http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com/articledt.php?art_id=201 , GivLivLight <shombaz> wrote: > > thank you for your help. the little i do know about kundalini awakening according to Dr Robert E Svoboda's book Kundalini, it does not happen easily. in the book Vimalananda mentioned a lot of people claim that their kundalini is awakened and running in their body but it is talk only. the awakened ones do not reveal such. > > there are cases of kundalini awakenings but it could be ego awakening too, if there is no guidance from a enlightened guru. > > this is my personal opinion > simone > > > AumShiningLotus@a... wrote: > Dear Friend > > Namaskar and thank you for your question...........the subject matter you are > asking about can fill a library........best way to answer this one is to > suggest for you to go online to Google search engine and type in Kundalini and > start your research........dureing this research you will find many answers > > hope this helps a little > > Thanks > > Rudra Center America > > DharmaDev Arya > > In a message dated 11/16/2005 9:58:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, > shombaz writes: > > > Subj: Re: RBSC : ek mukhi > > 11/16/2005 9:58:08 AM Pacific Standard Time > > shombaz > > Reply-to: > > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > how is kundalini awakened ? i am getting confused as i thought only the guru > > can awaken anothers kundalini. > > > > simone > > > > anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Simone, I have always considered Lord Hanuman Ji as my Guru as per Doha.. Shri Guru charan Saroj raj, nij maan mukul sudhari.. if i write more then it will be considered as from my ego.. Aum namah Shivaya Shivaya namah Aum anil , GivLivLight <shombaz> wrote: > > thank you for your help. the little i do know about kundalini awakening according to Dr Robert E Svoboda's book Kundalini, it does not happen easily. in the book Vimalananda mentioned a lot of people claim that their kundalini is awakened and running in their body but it is talk only. the awakened ones do not reveal such. > > there are cases of kundalini awakenings but it could be ego awakening too, if there is no guidance from a enlightened guru. > > this is my personal opinion > simone > > > AumShiningLotus@a... wrote: > Dear Friend > > Namaskar and thank you for your question...........the subject matter you are > asking about can fill a library........best way to answer this one is to > suggest for you to go online to Google search engine and type in Kundalini and > start your research........dureing this research you will find many answers > > hope this helps a little > > Thanks > > Rudra Center America > > DharmaDev Arya > > In a message dated 11/16/2005 9:58:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, > shombaz writes: > > > Subj: Re: RBSC : ek mukhi > > 11/16/2005 9:58:08 AM Pacific Standard Time > > shombaz > > Reply-to: > > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > how is kundalini awakened ? i am getting confused as i thought only the guru > > can awaken anothers kundalini. > > > > simone > > > > anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 bondwith mother and is called as Mooladhara. Only from earth livingbeings like plants etc. (life) are born. The Kundalini sleeps in theMooladhara wheel. This indicates your sleeping state of mind in thewomb of your mother.The awakening of Kundalini means that you are delivered and came intoworld and you are trapped in bonds as your mind grows. So, there isno need of awakening the Kundalini, which was already in the awakenedstate. By closing your eyes, you are encouraging Kundalini (mind) tosleep. First you have to cut your bond/love with mother for the sakeof God. The second wheel is `Manipura' of water representing thefather. The sky having clouds is said to be the father in Veda. Whenwater falls from the sky and unites with earth, life is produced. Thebond with the father should also be cut as Prahlada left his fatherfor the sake of God. Now, you may argue that Veda says mother andfather are God (Matru devaha, pitru devaha). These words have twomeanings as per the grammar. The first meaning is that mother andfather are God. This is correct because in the world among all thepeople, they should be very highly respected and loved. The secondmeaning for these words is that God is mother and father. This meaning should be taken, when God comes into yourlife and competes with mother and father. The third wheel isSwadhistana (fire) representing the bond between wife and husband.The union of a couple takes place only due to heat (fire). Buddhaleft his wife and Meera left her husband for the sake of God. Thefourth wheel is Anahata, of air, representing the bond with children.Veda says air is the strongest. This wheel is placed in the heart,which means that this is the heart or the essence of all the bonds.Buddha left his one year old son for the sake of God. The fifth wheelis Visuddha of Akasha (space), which is in the throat, representingthe bond with false gurus (preachers). A fraud guru preaches onlynonsense, which represents nothing like space. To reach the God whois the Sadguru you must leave all the gurus. Prahlada left suchteachers. The final wheel is Aajna, in between the two eyebrows,representing the `Jnananetra' i.e., the sight of knowledge. This is of mind. With the help of knowledge that is Vedas and Sashtras,you must decide the real form of God as Lord Datta and all otherforms are only his various dresses. Vedas say that Datta is only theultimate and real God (Brahman). Veda says that God should be one andthat one God creates, rules and destroys the universe. Datta is onlyone and does these three works through His three divine faces. But,such ultimate God cannot be reached because Vedas say that evenwords, mind, intelligence, logic and even imagination cannot touchhim. But, He comes in the human form and then only you can see,touch, talk and even spend your whole life with Him. Such human formis called DATTA. Datta means the God who is given to devotees, youcan meet Him in this world in human form only. Gita says that Godcomes in human form only (Manusheem……). Gita also says that if oneworships formless, he or she gets sorrow only (Avyaktahi…). Gita alsosays that if you worship a statue, you are born as a stone (Bhutejyah….). A statue has only a limited use of being seenby devotees (Darsanam) and is not meant for worship. A human formonly gives full satisfaction to devotees during worship.Yoga means joining the God after cutting all the family bonds throughcheating to avoid hurting as explained above. The bonds can be cutonly when a new bond with God is formed. Without the new bond, theold bond cannot be cut. First attachment to God (Bhakti) should comeand detachment from the relatives (Vyragya) is a natural consequencefor which no effort is needed. Once you taste the divine nectar, youwill naturally stop drinking coffee. Without tasting the divinenectar it is impossible to leave coffee, because we desire always todrink something. So without Bhakti Vyragya is impossible andmeaningless. It is meaningless because a stone having no bond at allis not salvated.Lord Datta who is called Yogi raja (Master of Yoga) can only bringout the real essence of Yoga and He has given the true explanationtoday to show the real path to ignorant people.The strength of this discourse is only Truth and hence it will pierceinto the heart of anyone having open mind in this world. My aim ofthis discourse is all foreigners and those Indians who have open mindwithout blind conservatism. lakshmi Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Lakshmiji, Thanq 4 giving a beautiful article bringing the simile with "Pancha Bhutas". Please don't think it a criticism. The write up needs a small change. The Order of "Chakras or Padmas" is as enumerated under 1. Mooladhara - Earth, 2. Swadisthana- Water (Pubic area is the location) 3. Mani Pura - Fire or "Agni" Stomach or belly is the location. Rest all are in order. Each "Padma" is having fixed number of petals. To start awakening Kudalini, the practitioner shall start from "Vishuddhi Chakra" (Please refer Lalitha Sahasram). "Sadhak shall chant the "Beejakshar" assigned to each chakra. Like "Yam", "VamRamLamHam" and "Aum" (For Vishuddhi) as taught by "Guru". By chanting these "Beejakshar one can awakens "Kundalini" and heals the problems or ailments of the part concerned. One can heal his own illness or pray for others for healing. Each Chakra is responsible for rendering defined power. Each Chakra is having Goddess of its own. The colur of the chakras are well defined (Not VIBGYOR as often given in some of the present day scripts). Explanation to Impress upon the Goddess of particular Chakra,, the offerings (as "Naivedya") is also avilable. All these details are vividly given in Lalitha Sahasram. AUM Namah Shivaya , lakshmi k <goodgirllakshmi> wrote: > > Deae Members > I came across the beautiful message in one of the group flet like share this > and hope members can enlight me with their experiences. > > Kundalini Awakening > > Kundalini is your mind which is the base of your love and which is > called as the serpent going with curves. Generally the mind of the > people is curved by nature. Mind is energy and is propagated as waves > according to science. These wheels are the family bonds and crossing > them in a curved way is cheating those cheating bonds. This justifies > that Maya can be crossed by Maya and a thorn can be taken out by > another thorn. The first wheel represents earth, which is the bond > with mother and is called as Mooladhara. Only from earth living > beings like plants etc. (life) are born. The Kundalini sleeps in the > Mooladhara wheel. This indicates your sleeping state of mind in the > womb of your mother. > > The awakening of Kundalini means that you are delivered and came into > world and you are trapped in bonds as your mind grows. So, there is > no need of awakening the Kundalini, which was already in the awakened > state. By closing your eyes, you are encouraging Kundalini (mind) to > sleep. First you have to cut your bond/love with mother for the sake > of God. The second wheel is `Manipura' of water representing the > father. The sky having clouds is said to be the father in Veda. When > water falls from the sky and unites with earth, life is produced. The > bond with the father should also be cut as Prahlada left his father > for the sake of God. Now, you may argue that Veda says mother and > father are God (Matru devaha, pitru devaha). These words have two > meanings as per the grammar. The first meaning is that mother and > father are God. This is correct because in the world among all the > people, they should be very highly respected and loved. The second > meaning for these words is that God is mother > and father. This meaning should be taken, when God comes into your > life and competes with mother and father. The third wheel is > Swadhistana (fire) representing the bond between wife and husband. > The union of a couple takes place only due to heat (fire). Buddha > left his wife and Meera left her husband for the sake of God. The > fourth wheel is Anahata, of air, representing the bond with children. > Veda says air is the strongest. This wheel is placed in the heart, > which means that this is the heart or the essence of all the bonds. > Buddha left his one year old son for the sake of God. The fifth wheel > is Visuddha of Akasha (space), which is in the throat, representing > the bond with false gurus (preachers). A fraud guru preaches only > nonsense, which represents nothing like space. To reach the God who > is the Sadguru you must leave all the gurus. Prahlada left such > teachers. The final wheel is Aajna, in between the two eyebrows, > representing the `Jnananetra' i.e., the sight of knowledge. This > is of mind. With the help of knowledge that is Vedas and Sashtras, > you must decide the real form of God as Lord Datta and all other > forms are only his various dresses. Vedas say that Datta is only the > ultimate and real God (Brahman). Veda says that God should be one and > that one God creates, rules and destroys the universe. Datta is only > one and does these three works through His three divine faces. But, > such ultimate God cannot be reached because Vedas say that even > words, mind, intelligence, logic and even imagination cannot touch > him. But, He comes in the human form and then only you can see, > touch, talk and even spend your whole life with Him. Such human form > is called DATTA. Datta means the God who is given to devotees, you > can meet Him in this world in human form only. Gita says that God > comes in human form only (Manusheem……). Gita also says that if one > worships formless, he or she gets sorrow only (Avyaktahi…). Gita also > says that if you worship a statue, you are born as a > stone (Bhutejyah….). A statue has only a limited use of being seen > by devotees (Darsanam) and is not meant for worship. A human form > only gives full satisfaction to devotees during worship. > > Yoga means joining the God after cutting all the family bonds through > cheating to avoid hurting as explained above. The bonds can be cut > only when a new bond with God is formed. Without the new bond, the > old bond cannot be cut. First attachment to God (Bhakti) should come > and detachment from the relatives (Vyragya) is a natural consequence > for which no effort is needed. Once you taste the divine nectar, you > will naturally stop drinking coffee. Without tasting the divine > nectar it is impossible to leave coffee, because we desire always to > drink something. So without Bhakti Vyragya is impossible and > meaningless. It is meaningless because a stone having no bond at all > is not salvated. > > Lord Datta who is called Yogi raja (Master of Yoga) can only bring > out the real essence of Yoga and He has given the true explanation > today to show the real path to ignorant people. > > The strength of this discourse is only Truth and hence it will pierce > into the heart of anyone having open mind in this world. My aim of > this discourse is all foreigners and those Indians who have open mind > without blind conservatism. > > lakshmi > > > > Enjoy this Diwali with Y! 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