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skills. 6. Germs are the main cause of disease. 7. The body has no capacity to

fight disease without the help of a doctor. There is no internal correction

system. 8. The body/mind complex cannot renew itself. 9. The

external/internal environment is an enemy which is constantly seeking to

destroy the body. 10. Nature is powerless against disease. 11. Disease is

static and it can be fought only by medicines at the material plane. However

almost all other forms of alternate healing are of the opinion that; 1.

Symptoms are the body's language trying to point out the source of the problem

or trying to let the body/mind/intelligence complex know that some anomaly has

ocurred. 2. Disease begins at the karmic plane making its way down through the

mental/emotional plane into the physical body. Problems at the physical level is

the

last stage of disease. 3. Only the soul is disease free, man can be diseased at

all other levels. 4. Not all diseases go against the body, many are a part of

the development process (birth-childhood-youth-adult-old age-death) and

indicate correctional processes taking place within the body which is trying to

throw away toxins of the process. 5. The patient knows best, the physicians job

is to assist the patient in his attempts to set right the malady and regain his

former state of health. 6. Cracks in the immune system lead to disease. Germs

cannot thrive unless an internal error has ocurred laying down the foundation

of disease. In some cases the germs also may be the scavengors trying to remove

the waste products generated as the immune system fights the disease. 7. The

body is fully equipped to fight disease and the physician should interfere with

proper life saving and vitality building exercises only when he

feels that the vital force is loosing against the disease force. 8. The

body/mind complex knows fully well what to do at every stage in case of disease

unless its diagnostic and healing abilities have been severely compromised by

human and mechanical forces. The inherent healing force of the body always

tries to throw out the disease force from within outwards. 10. Though the

environment and internal system is constantly at a state of flux the inherent

idea is to achieve equilibrium and not to lead to further chaos. The position

changes only at advanced old age when the soul starts preparing to shed the old

body and acquire a new one. 11. Disease is a dynamic force and the physician

should be able to deal with it at a dynamic level. If disease is not dynamic it

can not affect the dynamic life/vital force in the first place. All alternate

methods recognise the life force, the vital energy

that maintains life, and say that dis-ease occurs when the normal flow of the

life force is disturbed by physical, mental, emotional or spiritual anomalies.

There is also an attempt to recognise man as a part of nature, both sustaining

it and being sustained by it. It is only recently that streams of medicine like

eco-medicine and many branches of psychiatry (body-mind medicine) are peeping

into the complex nature of disease and unravelling the time-tested truths that

have always been a part of our grandmother recipes. By following the principles

of alternative healing methods we don't "fall back into superstition" but

uncover our roots, our connection with nature and the Universe. Alternative

medicine is based upon harmony unlike modern medicine which harps on enmity and

fear. I think now the position of modern medicine vis a vis alternate medicine

is somewhat clear. Keeping in view the new paradigm of interconnectivity being

advocated by

scientists (new to the modern, not the ancient), the purely physical and

reductionist views of modern medicine seem crude and primitive. Merely flashing

gadgets or diagnostic tools do not lead us closer to good health. The ultimate

reality is a subject of intuition and personal realisation. Health is thus a

personal matter. It is the adoption of faulty methods that has brought us to a

stage where even normal and instinctive bodily functions cannot be performed

without medication. Regards, Jagannath

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Beautifully explained.

 

Allopathy works on physical, Accupressure/Accupunture work on Etheric body and

Homeopathy / Ayurved works on Emotional Body..

 

Om Namah Shivaya Namah Om.

 

anil

, Jagannath Chatterjee

<jagchat01> wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> I am enclosing a comparative analysis of the modern medical view of disease

vis a

vis the holistic or alternative medical system view which is more spiritual in

origin. I

had prepared this for another group and have retrieved it from my "sent" box.

>

> The modern medical principles may be surmised as under;

>

> 1. The symptoms are the disease. Therefore efforts should be made to destroy

the

symptoms to destroy the disease.

> 2. Lack of physical symptoms or "negative test results" denote lack of

disease.

> 3. The physical body and a part of the mind alone are susceptible to

disease.

> 4. All disease (or dis-ease) has to be fought on war footing as it is bad

for health.

> 5. The physician knows best. The patient should remain a silent spectator

to his

skills.

> 6. Germs are the main cause of disease.

> 7. The body has no capacity to fight disease without the help of a doctor.

There is

no internal correction system.

> 8. The body/mind complex cannot renew itself.

> 9. The external/internal environment is an enemy which is constantly seeking

to

destroy the body.

> 10. Nature is powerless against disease.

> 11. Disease is static and it can be fought only by medicines at the material

plane.

>

> However almost all other forms of alternate healing are of the opinion that;

>

> 1. Symptoms are the body's language trying to point out the source of the

problem or trying to let the body/mind/intelligence complex know that some

anomaly

has ocurred.

> 2. Disease begins at the karmic plane making its way down through the

mental/

emotional plane into the physical body. Problems at the physical level is the

last stage

of disease.

> 3. Only the soul is disease free, man can be diseased at all other levels.

> 4. Not all diseases go against the body, many are a part of the development

process (birth-childhood-youth-adult-old age-death) and indicate correctional

processes taking place within the body which is trying to throw away toxins of

the

process.

> 5. The patient knows best, the physicians job is to assist the patient in

his attempts

to set right the malady and regain his former state of health.

> 6. Cracks in the immune system lead to disease. Germs cannot thrive unless

an

internal error has ocurred laying down the foundation of disease. In some cases

the

germs also may be the scavengors trying to remove the waste products generated

as

the immune system fights the disease.

> 7. The body is fully equipped to fight disease and the physician should

interfere

with proper life saving and vitality building exercises only when he feels that

the vital

force is loosing against the disease force.

> 8. The body/mind complex knows fully well what to do at every stage in case

of

disease unless its diagnostic and healing abilities have been severely

compromised

by human and mechanical forces. The inherent healing force of the body always

tries

to throw out the disease force from within outwards.

> 10. Though the environment and internal system is constantly at a state of

flux the

inherent idea is to achieve equilibrium and not to lead to further chaos. The

position

changes only at advanced old age when the soul starts preparing to shed the old

body and acquire a new one.

> 11. Disease is a dynamic force and the physician should be able to deal with

it at a

dynamic level. If disease is not dynamic it can not affect the dynamic

life/vital force in

the first place.

>

> All alternate methods recognise the life force, the vital energy that

maintains life,

and say that dis-ease occurs when the normal flow of the life force is disturbed

by

physical, mental, emotional or spiritual anomalies. There is also an attempt to

recognise man as a part of nature, both sustaining it and being sustained by it.

It is

only recently that streams of medicine like eco-medicine and many branches of

psychiatry (body-mind medicine) are peeping into the complex nature of disease

and

unravelling the time-tested truths that have always been a part of our

grandmother

recipes. By following the principles of alternative healing methods we don't

"fall back

into superstition" but uncover our roots, our connection with nature and the

Universe.

Alternative medicine is based upon harmony unlike modern medicine which harps on

enmity and fear.

>

> I think now the position of modern medicine vis a vis alternate medicine is

somewhat clear. Keeping in view the new paradigm of interconnectivity being

advocated by scientists (new to the modern, not the ancient), the purely

physical and

reductionist views of modern medicine seem crude and primitive. Merely flashing

gadgets or diagnostic tools do not lead us closer to good health. The ultimate

reality

is a subject of intuition and personal realisation. Health is thus a personal

matter. It is

the adoption of faulty methods that has brought us to a stage where even normal

and

instinctive bodily functions cannot be performed without medication.

>

> Regards,

> Jagannath

>

>

>

>

>

> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

>

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Dear Jagannath,

 

Thanks for sharing a Very good article about alternate

medicine or holistic medicine and its outlook and

approach compared to allopathic medicine.

 

The increase in killer diseases like diabetes, heart

disease and cancer are making people to look for

holistic treatments, These holistic treatments are

always there, since the spirituality is decreasing

people have lost touch with them, God and angels are

again raising awarenes of these spiritual healing

approaches to heal this world and bring back

spirituality and love.

 

our old scriptures talk about life energy and its

healing effects, enlightened spiritual souls like

Shiridi Saibaba, Jesus Christ are holistic healers,

the life energy and love emanating from them healed

people. Though they are physically not present now

they are still continuing the healing spiritually at a

very higher plane.

 

Each soul is a healer by itself, we just have to

realize our inner potential of healing using life

force or love, there are innumerable ways to use

lifeforce to heal our selves and others, Reiki,

prayer, Chanting mantras, om chanting and other pranik

healings. we can all be healers and heal this world.

 

we are going through testing times on this earth,

toomuch of materialism, lack of spiritualism, global

warming, etc are destroying this world, we have to

heal ourselves spiritually and karmically and we have

to heal others, we have to spread love and heal the

earth.

 

Love heals,

Om namah shivaya,

Divakar.

 

 

--- Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01 wrote:

 

> Dear Friends,

>

> I am enclosing a comparative analysis of the

> modern medical view of disease vis a vis the

> holistic or alternative medical system view which is

> more spiritual in origin. I had prepared this for

> another group and have retrieved it from my "sent"

> box.

>

> The modern medical principles may be surmised as

> under;

>

> 1. The symptoms are the disease. Therefore efforts

> should be made to destroy the symptoms to destroy

> the disease.

> 2. Lack of physical symptoms or "negative test

> results" denote lack of disease.

> 3. The physical body and a part of the mind alone

> are susceptible to disease.

> 4. All disease (or dis-ease) has to be fought on

> war footing as it is bad for health.

> 5. The physician knows best. The patient should

> remain a silent spectator to his skills.

> 6. Germs are the main cause of disease.

> 7. The body has no capacity to fight disease

> without the help of a doctor. There is no internal

> correction system.

> 8. The body/mind complex cannot renew itself.

> 9. The external/internal environment is an enemy

> which is constantly seeking to destroy the body.

> 10. Nature is powerless against disease.

> 11. Disease is static and it can be fought only by

> medicines at the material plane.

>

> However almost all other forms of alternate

> healing are of the opinion that;

>

> 1. Symptoms are the body's language trying to

> point out the source of the problem or trying to let

> the body/mind/intelligence complex know that some

> anomaly has ocurred.

> 2. Disease begins at the karmic plane making its

> way down through the mental/emotional plane into the

> physical body. Problems at the physical level is the

> last stage of disease.

> 3. Only the soul is disease free, man can be

> diseased at all other levels.

> 4. Not all diseases go against the body, many are

> a part of the development process

> (birth-childhood-youth-adult-old age-death) and

> indicate correctional processes taking place within

> the body which is trying to throw away toxins of the

> process.

> 5. The patient knows best, the physicians job is

> to assist the patient in his attempts to set right

> the malady and regain his former state of health.

> 6. Cracks in the immune system lead to disease.

> Germs cannot thrive unless an internal error has

> ocurred laying down the foundation of disease. In

> some cases the germs also may be the scavengors

> trying to remove the waste products generated as the

> immune system fights the disease.

> 7. The body is fully equipped to fight disease and

> the physician should interfere with proper life

> saving and vitality building exercises only when he

> feels that the vital force is loosing against the

> disease force.

> 8. The body/mind complex knows fully well what to

> do at every stage in case of disease unless its

> diagnostic and healing abilities have been severely

> compromised by human and mechanical forces. The

> inherent healing force of the body always tries to

> throw out the disease force from within outwards.

> 10. Though the environment and internal system is

> constantly at a state of flux the inherent idea is

> to achieve equilibrium and not to lead to further

> chaos. The position changes only at advanced old age

> when the soul starts preparing to shed the old body

> and acquire a new one.

> 11. Disease is a dynamic force and the physician

> should be able to deal with it at a dynamic level.

> If disease is not dynamic it can not affect the

> dynamic life/vital force in the first place.

>

> All alternate methods recognise the life force,

> the vital energy that maintains life, and say that

> dis-ease occurs when the normal flow of the life

> force is disturbed by physical, mental, emotional or

> spiritual anomalies. There is also an attempt to

> recognise man as a part of nature, both sustaining

> it and being sustained by it. It is only recently

> that streams of medicine like eco-medicine and many

> branches of psychiatry (body-mind medicine) are

> peeping into the complex nature of disease and

> unravelling the time-tested truths that have always

> been a part of our grandmother recipes. By following

> the principles of alternative healing methods we

> don't "fall back into superstition" but uncover our

> roots, our connection with nature and the Universe.

> Alternative medicine is based upon harmony unlike

> modern medicine which harps on enmity and fear.

>

> I think now the position of modern medicine vis a

> vis alternate medicine is somewhat clear. Keeping in

> view the new paradigm of interconnectivity being

> advocated by scientists (new to the modern, not the

> ancient), the purely physical and reductionist views

> of modern medicine seem crude and primitive. Merely

> flashing gadgets or diagnostic tools do not lead us

> closer to good health. The ultimate reality is a

> subject of intuition and personal realisation.

> Health is thus a personal matter. It is the adoption

> of faulty methods that has brought us to a stage

> where even normal and instinctive bodily functions

> cannot be performed without medication.

>

> Regards,

> Jagannath

>

>

>

>

>

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> one click.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Recently I saw a tv show about a man in india who got

healed by chanting the maha mrutyunjaya mantra.

 

This person is a chronic diabetic and doctors

(allopathic) doctors have suggested to ampute his

right leg to prevent the infection from spreading to

other parts of the body, he had no choice.

 

But his inner voice has suggested that he try

spiritual ways, his brother suggested chanting Maha

Mrutyunjaya mantra and he consulted a spiritual guru

who taught him the mantra. After chanting the mantra

for a few days this person is completely healed, he

can walk now, he avoided amputation.

 

This shows in most cases healing is not at physical

body, it is done spiritually and karmically.

 

People have to be aware of this life foce which heals,

and we all have this life force, this awareness will

increase our health, spiritualism, faith in god and

make our life holistic.

 

Om namah shivaya,

Regards,

Divakar.

 

--- anil <bindal wrote:

 

> Beautifully explained.

>

> Allopathy works on physical,

> Accupressure/Accupunture work on Etheric body and

> Homeopathy / Ayurved works on Emotional Body..

>

> Om Namah Shivaya Namah Om.

>

> anil

> ,

> Jagannath Chatterjee

> <jagchat01> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > I am enclosing a comparative analysis of the

> modern medical view of disease vis a

> vis the holistic or alternative medical system view

> which is more spiritual in origin. I

> had prepared this for another group and have

> retrieved it from my "sent" box.

> >

> > The modern medical principles may be surmised

> as under;

> >

> > 1. The symptoms are the disease. Therefore

> efforts should be made to destroy the

> symptoms to destroy the disease.

> > 2. Lack of physical symptoms or "negative test

> results" denote lack of disease.

> > 3. The physical body and a part of the mind

> alone are susceptible to disease.

> > 4. All disease (or dis-ease) has to be fought

> on war footing as it is bad for health.

> > 5. The physician knows best. The patient should

> remain a silent spectator to his

> skills.

> > 6. Germs are the main cause of disease.

> > 7. The body has no capacity to fight disease

> without the help of a doctor. There is

> no internal correction system.

> > 8. The body/mind complex cannot renew itself.

> > 9. The external/internal environment is an enemy

> which is constantly seeking to

> destroy the body.

> > 10. Nature is powerless against disease.

> > 11. Disease is static and it can be fought only

> by medicines at the material plane.

> >

> > However almost all other forms of alternate

> healing are of the opinion that;

> >

> > 1. Symptoms are the body's language trying to

> point out the source of the

> problem or trying to let the body/mind/intelligence

> complex know that some anomaly

> has ocurred.

> > 2. Disease begins at the karmic plane making

> its way down through the mental/

> emotional plane into the physical body. Problems at

> the physical level is the last stage

> of disease.

> > 3. Only the soul is disease free, man can be

> diseased at all other levels.

> > 4. Not all diseases go against the body, many

> are a part of the development

> process (birth-childhood-youth-adult-old age-death)

> and indicate correctional

> processes taking place within the body which is

> trying to throw away toxins of the

> process.

> > 5. The patient knows best, the physicians job is

> to assist the patient in his attempts

> to set right the malady and regain his former state

> of health.

> > 6. Cracks in the immune system lead to disease.

> Germs cannot thrive unless an

> internal error has ocurred laying down the

> foundation of disease. In some cases the

> germs also may be the scavengors trying to remove

> the waste products generated as

> the immune system fights the disease.

> > 7. The body is fully equipped to fight disease

> and the physician should interfere

> with proper life saving and vitality building

> exercises only when he feels that the vital

> force is loosing against the disease force.

> > 8. The body/mind complex knows fully well what

> to do at every stage in case of

> disease unless its diagnostic and healing abilities

> have been severely compromised

> by human and mechanical forces. The inherent healing

> force of the body always tries

> to throw out the disease force from within outwards.

>

> > 10. Though the environment and internal system

> is constantly at a state of flux the

> inherent idea is to achieve equilibrium and not to

> lead to further chaos. The position

> changes only at advanced old age when the soul

> starts preparing to shed the old

> body and acquire a new one.

> > 11. Disease is a dynamic force and the physician

> should be able to deal with it at a

> dynamic level. If disease is not dynamic it can not

> affect the dynamic life/vital force in

> the first place.

> >

> > All alternate methods recognise the life force,

> the vital energy that maintains life,

> and say that dis-ease occurs when the normal flow of

> the life force is disturbed by

> physical, mental, emotional or spiritual anomalies.

> There is also an attempt to

> recognise man as a part of nature, both sustaining

> it and being sustained by it. It is

> only recently that streams of medicine like

> eco-medicine and many branches of

> psychiatry (body-mind medicine) are peeping into the

> complex nature of disease and

> unravelling the time-tested truths that have always

> been a part of our grandmother

> recipes. By following the principles of alternative

> healing methods we don't "fall back

> into superstition" but uncover our roots, our

> connection with nature and the Universe.

> Alternative medicine is based upon harmony unlike

> modern medicine which harps on

> enmity and fear.

> >

> > I think now the position of modern medicine vis

> a vis alternate medicine is

> somewhat clear. Keeping in view the new paradigm of

> interconnectivity being

> advocated by scientists (new to the modern, not the

> ancient), the purely physical and

> reductionist views of modern medicine seem crude and

> primitive. Merely flashing

> gadgets or diagnostic tools do not lead us closer to

> good health. The ultimate reality

> is a subject of intuition and personal realisation.

> Health is thus a personal matter. It is

> the adoption of faulty methods that has brought us

> to a stage where even normal and

> instinctive bodily functions cannot be performed

> without medication.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Jagannath

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Anil & Divakara,

 

Namaste. Thank you both for your enlightening response. I think much of

the current resurfacing of interest in spirituality comes from facing

personal horrors in the health front. We must thank allopathy for

that!! Life is cyclical and errors lead us back to God through pain and

suffering.

 

As ayurveda went out of our lives the concept of the practice of

brahmacharya (celibacy) too was shown the door. Modern medicine said

sex was therapeutic and that more was better. Sattwic food too was

declared non-nutritious and animal food was advocated. Animal serums

were injected as vaccines thus contaminating our DNA structure and

pushing animal like qualities into us. Processed foods and market

produce replaced home grown vegetables and fruits. Mass production

favoured the use of lethal pesticides. Chemical poisons replaced

herbals. Parties replaced pranayama.

 

In my childhood I had witnessed an award winning Bengali film on the

life of a traditional ayurved. He watched helplessly as life giving

principles were replaced with "scientific thought". People shied away

from his advice on shunning greed and lust for a healthy life. The last

straw was his own son deciding to study modern medicine blaming his

fathers profession for the family's poverty. Old and haggard, but

spiritually strong the ayurved became a recluse occasionally pondering

about the host of life sapping diseases that would grip mankind if

natural laws were flouted. The people continued to ignore him and

laughed at his outdated theories. The last scene showed the healer

studying his own pulse to determine how much longer he had to live and

suffer the crticism his village folk showered on him.

 

In the times of Lord Chaitanya there lived in Jagannath Puri a devotee

called Achyutananda. He was an Indian Nostradamus and made many

prophecies about the future. One of them is very appropriate for our

current subject;

 

"In the Kali Yuga," he wrote 500 years ago, "will emerge a group of

people who will know nothing about disease nor of cure but will be

revered as doctors". In Oriya, to quote his exact words, "Roga na

janibe, nidana na janibe, baidya bolaibe".

 

Regards,

Jagannath.

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Dear Jagannath,

 

Totally agree with you, we all have to wish, pray,

hope and work for spreading the importance and

significance of holistic spritutal treatments and

practices, we as spiritual people have seen a lot of

miracles, the cases declared by doctors as hopeless

have come back to life. Lord shiva is the highest

healer all spiritual healing is done through him.

 

thanks for sharing and enlightening the group with

very important and significant information.

 

Regads,

Om namah shivaya,

Divakar.

 

--- jagchat01 <jagchat01 wrote:

 

>

> Dear Anil & Divakara,

>

> Namaste. Thank you both for your enlightening

> response. I think much of

> the current resurfacing of interest in spirituality

> comes from facing

> personal horrors in the health front. We must thank

> allopathy for

> that!! Life is cyclical and errors lead us back to

> God through pain and

> suffering.

>

> As ayurveda went out of our lives the concept of the

> practice of

> brahmacharya (celibacy) too was shown the door.

> Modern medicine said

> sex was therapeutic and that more was better.

> Sattwic food too was

> declared non-nutritious and animal food was

> advocated. Animal serums

> were injected as vaccines thus contaminating our DNA

> structure and

> pushing animal like qualities into us. Processed

> foods and market

> produce replaced home grown vegetables and fruits.

> Mass production

> favoured the use of lethal pesticides. Chemical

> poisons replaced

> herbals. Parties replaced pranayama.

>

> In my childhood I had witnessed an award winning

> Bengali film on the

> life of a traditional ayurved. He watched helplessly

> as life giving

> principles were replaced with "scientific thought".

> People shied away

> from his advice on shunning greed and lust for a

> healthy life. The last

> straw was his own son deciding to study modern

> medicine blaming his

> fathers profession for the family's poverty. Old and

> haggard, but

> spiritually strong the ayurved became a recluse

> occasionally pondering

> about the host of life sapping diseases that would

> grip mankind if

> natural laws were flouted. The people continued to

> ignore him and

> laughed at his outdated theories. The last scene

> showed the healer

> studying his own pulse to determine how much longer

> he had to live and

> suffer the crticism his village folk showered on

> him.

>

> In the times of Lord Chaitanya there lived in

> Jagannath Puri a devotee

> called Achyutananda. He was an Indian Nostradamus

> and made many

> prophecies about the future. One of them is very

> appropriate for our

> current subject;

>

> "In the Kali Yuga," he wrote 500 years ago, "will

> emerge a group of

> people who will know nothing about disease nor of

> cure but will be

> revered as doctors". In Oriya, to quote his exact

> words, "Roga na

> janibe, nidana na janibe, baidya bolaibe".

>

> Regards,

> Jagannath.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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