Glory of Lord Siva in Simad Bhagavatam

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Om Namah Sivaya,

 

 

Hara-Krishna sect says that Lord Krishna (body form!!)

is the original form of the Supreme Being. They say

only Srimad Bhagavatam and Bhagavad Gita are reliable

source to understand the nature of God. They say Lord

Krishna used the term ‘I am’ the Supreme Lord in

Bhagavad Gita but they failed to recognise which ‘I

‘Lord Krishna referring to, they thing it is the body

form of the Lord (holding a flute), this is clearly

wrong, Lord Krishna preached Arjuna the all pervading

I (SIVAM). In an Upanishad Indra Deva said to his

disciple ‘I am’ the Supreme Lord, clearly he was not

referring to his body form and by tradition when Guru

instruct his disciple they always pretend them to be

the Supreme Self (or SIVAM).

 

It is utterly a grave-blunder to say Lord Siva as a

DEMI-GOD, this view is not even accepted by majority

of decent Vaishnavites. Hara-Krishna group prise so

much of Srimad Bhagavatam but the purana itself says :

 

Karabhajana Instructs

 

The king Nimi said: “By what name and form and with

what rites is the Lord worshipped in the different

Yugas? Please tell me of the same.”

 

Karabhajana said: “O king, in the four ages of Satya

(Krita), Treta, Dvapara and Kali, Narayana is

worshipped in diverse ways as having personalities of

different hues, names, forms and orders.

 

“In Satya Yuga the Lord is of white complexion. He has

four arms, wears matted locks, bark and deer skin, and

the sacred thread and holds RUDRAKSHA, staff and

Kamandalu.

 

“In that age men are tranquil in mind, have no feeling

of enmity or hatred. All are friends and equals. They

propitiate the Lord by their penance, meditation and

control of mind and the senses.

 

“In this age the Lord is styled as Swan (Hamsa),

Suparna, Vaikunta, Dharma, Yogesvara, Amala (pure),

Isvara, Purusha, Avyakta (unmanifest) and Paramatman.

 

“In the Treta age He is blood-red, four armed, has

THREE LINES on his forehead and golden locks. The

Lord, who is the one purport of the Vedas is an

embodiment of the sacrificed. He is worshipped as the

Lord of sacrifices. Sruk (chaplet) and Sruva (ladle)

are His special marks.

 

“In that age men adore the Lord Hari who is in the

form of all the gods with the help of the Vedas. They

observe rigidly the course of righteousness, read and

expound the Vedas. They propitiate Him by sacrifices,

imagining Him in all Devas. In this age, the Lord Hari

is styled as Vishnu, Yajna, Prisnigarbha (the son of

Prisni), Sarvadeva Uru Krama, Vrishakapi, Jayanta and

Urugaya.

 

“In the age of Dvapara the Lord is dark-blue, is clad

in yellow silk and is marked with His own weapons and

distinguished with special marks such as Srivatsa. O

king! In that age, being desirous of realising Para

Brahman the mortals worship Him as the great king

according to the rules of the Vedas and Tantra.

 

“Salutations unto Thee, the Vasudeva; salutations unto

Sankarshana; salutations unto Thee who are the Divine

Pradyumna and Aniruddha. Salutations unto Narayana,

the Almighty One, the Rishi, the Perfect Purusha, the

All-pervading great Atman, the Ruler of the universe,

the Perfect One; salutations to the Antaryamin of all

beings, the soul of all creatures, the Lord of the

universe. In this manner O king! In the Dvapara, the

mortals praise the Lord of the universe.

 

“Hear how in Kali they worship Him by various ways

laid down in Tantras. The wise sing His glories adore

Him who is black, yet brilliant, perfect in every

limb, adorned with ornaments, equipped with His

weapons and waited on by His attendants.

 

“O most exalted Purusha, O protector of those who bow

to Thee, I bow to Thy lotus-feet which are ever worthy

of being meditated upon, which remove all

difficulties, which yield all that is wished for,

which are the abode of all piety, which are eulogised

by Siva and Brahma, which are fit to be sought for

refuge, which destroy the afflictions of Thy devoted

servants and which form the raft in the sea of

Samsara.

 

“O most exalted Purusha! I bow to Thy lotus feet. Thou

art highly pious, because abandoning at the mere words

of Thy father the prosperous kingdom which it is hard

to renounce and which is coveted even by the gods,

thou didst enter the forest and there didst thou

pursue the illusory deer at the request of Thy beloved

one.

 

“Thus, O king Nimi! The Lord, the source of all good,

is worshipped by his devotees in the different Yugas

in the manner appropriate to each Yuga as above

mentioned.

 

“The wise who can discern the good in each of the

various Yugas hold the Kali Yuga in high reverence,

for in this age mortals attain Self-realisation by

merely uttering the names of the Lord and by mere

singing His glories. ........................

 

Source:

By Sri Swami Sivananda, Founder of Divine life Society

and a devotee of Lord Krishna.

Link:

http://www.dlshq.org/download/lordkrishna.htm#_VPID_87

 

 

Hara-Krishna sect has fabricated so many FALSE stories

like Lord Siva signed a document!!!! saying that He is

a slave of Lord Krishna and so many nonsense to hide

the truth, these people read a few pages from Srimad

Bhagavatam and Bhagavad Gita and thing they know

every thing about the Supreme Being, LITTLE LEARNING

IS DENGEROUS. Clearly they are not in the spiritual

height to realise that Siva and Vishnu(Krishna) are

one which the Simad Bhagavatam trying to verify.

 

Namah Sivaya

 

 

 

 

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Dear brother,

 

I really understand your anger and guess most of all true devotees

of Parameshwara Shiva will do the same. Indeed, in the meantime, I

feel sad for those which are caught in this illusion. They will

still probably have to experience several rebirths. Maybe it is

better to forgive them, because most of the Krishna sects are

unknowing and are manipulated. Nobody has to insult Shiva! If

anybody does it, he will have to suffer. So if they wish going this

way, ok, then it could be a heavy road...without Shivas grace.

 

Blessings to all of you, OM namah Shivay, HAR HAR MAHADEVA!

 

Suryanadi, a tiny star* of Almighty Shiva, the ONLY ONE!

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Dear Suryanadi ji,

 

What you are saying is so true. I probably shouldn't be saying this

but the hare Krishna movement....well lets just say the world would

have been better without it. People these days simply have no better

thing to do than to impose ones own ideas on others. These people

don't undertstand that Siva, that supreme brahman has manifested in

so many different forms and any deity that one prays to, either

knowingly or unknowingly, is praying to they supreme brahman and it

is the compasssion of this supreme brahman that these people don;t

have to suffer the wrath of this supreme brahman, but the path tho

Siva realization would be easyfor such people.

 

Nobody is free from Sivas maya. Even Brahma once made the mistake of

thinking Rudra to be his son just becuase Rudra emerged from

Brahma's body. hat to talk about ordinary people who don;t know how

to solve problems and mysteries in their own life yet claim to have

an answer to Sivas lila, yet at the same time do not recognise Suiva

as the supreme brahma....but than again it is all Sivas lila.

 

Sincerely,

BJ

 

, "Beatrix Mankel"

<suryanadi@w...> wrote:

>

>

> Dear brother,

>

> I really understand your anger and guess most of all true devotees

> of Parameshwara Shiva will do the same. Indeed, in the meantime, I

> feel sad for those which are caught in this illusion. They will

> still probably have to experience several rebirths. Maybe it is

> better to forgive them, because most of the Krishna sects are

> unknowing and are manipulated. Nobody has to insult Shiva! If

> anybody does it, he will have to suffer. So if they wish going

this

> way, ok, then it could be a heavy road...without Shivas grace.

>

> Blessings to all of you, OM namah Shivay, HAR HAR MAHADEVA!

>

> Suryanadi, a tiny star* of Almighty Shiva, the ONLY ONE!

>