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Attention to all,

 

Crude remarks have been made on lord shiva and ganash as well in this website,

for your kind attention.

http://www.themiraclesofjesusministry.org/vision-1-30-05.htm

Regards

 

Vijay

On 20 Oct 2005 22:04:26 -0000, <

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Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

"pillai_george" <pillai_george .sg> 2. Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples

Renovation.

"prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21 > 3. Re: Rama and

Krishna pastimes Sujata Krishna <

sujatakrishna2010 (AT) (DOT) co.in> 4. Re: mudras "prasanna kumar"

<prasannakumar21 > 5. Re: God gave me everything

"anil" <anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> 6. Re: Need immd

help..body shaking.. "anil" <

anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> 7. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

"anil" <anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> 8. Re: Need immd help..body

shaking..

"anil" <anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> 9. Mercury Shivalingam

pillai george <

pillai_george .sg> 10. Body Shaking pillai george

<pillai_george .sg> 11. Jokes pillai george <

pillai_george .sg> 12. Signals pillai george

<pillai_george .sg> 13. seeking your advice

"goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in> 14. Re:

Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The Three and t... "Jatadhar" <

JCsharanananda (AT) aol (DOT) com> 15. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

"anil" <anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in

> 16. Re: Signals Divakara Tanjore <div_tan > 17.

Re: Signals arjun pandit <

panditarjun2004 > 18. Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

Divakara Tanjore <div_tan > 19. Re: seeking your advice

KS Rao

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Message: 1 Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:16:20 -0000 "pillai_george"

<pillai_george .sg>Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

Dear Anil,Not to worry,Your body as received much cosmic energy which goes thru

all the72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You will feel whatyou

have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is very normal.Get readyfor Astral

Journey after the third eye opening.As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint

Arunagirinathar.Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close your

eyes.Just relax,relax,relax.

Om namah shivayaYoursGeorge Pillai,

"anil"<anil_bindal2000> wrote:

>> Aum.>> Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shakingsideways,

L-R, sometimes> R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much

energywithin and i am

> scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..>> it started on itw

own..when i was concentrating on my being..>> Need immd help..>> What is

happening to me ??>

> rgds>

anil>__________

Message: 2 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:32:39 -0000 "prasanna kumar"

<prasannakumar21 >Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

Dear membersA very good effort from Sri K.S.RAO ji for a noble cause.I am

happythat shiva group is helping the efforts for Ancient TemplesRenovation.Let

us all come forward help Prof. R. Radhakrishnan by

Providing financial support needed for the renovation of dilapidatedancient

temples.With Warm RegardsPrasanna kumarom namah

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3 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:45:48 +0100 (BST) Sujata Krishna <

sujatakrishna2010 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Rama and Krishna pastimeswow what a

beautiful krishnathank usendingsuch photosof lord krishnahare krishnahari om"

sairamdoris (AT) (DOT) es" <sairamdoris (AT) (DOT) es> wrote:

radha ratiram meet bharatrama leave homekrishna leaves mathuraKing Parikshit meet Sukadeva

vibhisan surrender to rama before battlevrindaban.com / devotional painting

"Why should you fear anything when you have such a Lord of the universe totake

care of you. I do everything for your good." - Babasairamdoris (AT) (DOT) es

Correo Comprueba qué es nuevo,

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Message: 4 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:39:04 -0000 "prasanna kumar"

<prasannakumar21 >Re: mudrasDear members

I am sorry the picture in the message is not being displayed .Pls referOur photo

section for Mudras connected to the

message.Regardsprasanna______________________

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5 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:41:34 -0000 "anil"

<anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in

>Re: God gave me everythingBEAUTIFUL..HARI OManil--- In

, pillai george <pillai_george@y

....> wrote:>>> When I Asked God for Peace> He Showed Me How to Help Others>>>

When I Asked God for Strength> He Gave Me Difficult Situations to Face>

> When I Asked God for Brain> He Gave Me Puzzles in Life to Solve>> When I Asked

God for Happiness> He Showed Me Some Unhappy People>> When I Asked God for

Wealth> He Showed Me How to Work Hard

>> When I Asked God for Favors> He Showed Me Opportunities to Work Harder>> God

Gave Me Nothing I Wanted> He Gave Me Everything I Needed>>>> Yours>

> George Pillai>>>> > Meet your soulmate!>

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6 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:48:29 -0000

"anil" <anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Need immd help..body

shaking..My unconditional love to you and i bow to GOD within you..

i feel OK.Aum Namah Shivaya namah Om.. chating is still ON inside me..AUManil---

In

, KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>wrote:>> Sh. Arun,> Do not worry, it is accumulation

of more positive energy in one of the> chakras which got opened up. I have

passed on Reiki energy to earth excess

> enrgy as you wished to have immediate help. In case of any need you may>

contact me on my mobile> KS Rao,> Navi Mumbai> Cell: 93242 94531>> Hi,>> This

is NarasimhaRao, I have 2+ years of exp. as java developer. Here I am

> forwarding my cv.Plz go through this and let me know the details.>>> Regards>

J.Narasimharao> 09867230696>>>>> On 10/19/05, anil <anil_bindal2000@y

....> wrote:> >> > Sir,> >> > it started after i felt tremors due to earth quake

in the morning.. i live> > on 14th floor in> > gurgaon..> >> > regards

> > anil> > , Mahapratibhawan

<branko.> > ivatovic@g...> wrote:> > >

> > > Dear Anil,> > > This is start spontaneous or after emotional shock?> > >

If your body not stop shaking please connect me direct to email.> > > If you

have best concentration please concentrate to point between eyes

> > and> > > up from this line on the forehead. Repeat heartily Om Namah Shivaya

(O> > God> > > all is Yours nothing My). Shavasana is perfect because is very

easy> > energy

> > > flow through Sushumna, but not good send any energy through Sushumna! If>

> you> > > can't see inner light or bindu and haven't inner sound (inner

smell,> > taste,> > > touch) better not practice any technique because you

without any sign

> > > consciousness (Kunadalini Shakti or Para Shakti), only one from Prana> >

Shakti> > > go through you ida, pingala, sushumna or any nadi. Then shavasana

or> > > makarasana is perfect for you. Only full relax.

> > > Best in any cases Maha mantra: He Prabho Praseed Aum - O God Bless (My)> >

Soul> > > - without blessing we can't do nothing. Writing is better then> >

repeating. 2> > > x 108 repeat or 1008 times writes.

> > > My God Bless You> > > Mahapratibhawan> > >> > >> > > On 10/19/05, anil

<anil_bindal2000> wrote:> > > >> > > > Aum.

> > > >> > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

sideways,> > L-R,> > > > sometimes> > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise,

anticlockwise..i feel so much energy

> > within> > > > and i am> > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake

happening..> > > >> > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my

being..

> > > >> > > > Need immd help..> > > >> > > > What is happening to me ??> > > >>

> > > rgds> > > > anil> > > >

> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >

Lord shiva<

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sig=OAeTVpNdu4gIgpXCJOVmEQ>> > > > ------------------------------

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this group, send an email to:> > > >

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7 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:45:37 -0000 "anil"

<anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in

>Re: Need immd help..body shaking..Shiva within me BOWS to yours.I have

realized that saying in Bhagwat Gita when Lord Krishna says that i remain in

alland so remaining i worhship myself..

I must have been very very lucky to have got blessing from all members of this

group..Thanks a lot..i m feeling OK now..regardsanil

, "prasanna kumar"<prasannakumar21@g...>

wrote:>> Dear esteem members> I wish to help Mr anilji let us all together pray

from him,so that i

> can be back to normal.Today i have pray for him ,i hope other also help> him

in this regard.> with warm Regards>

Prasanna>______________________

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8 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:58:19 -0000 "anil"

<anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in

>Re: Need immd help..body shaking..Thank you..By grace of GOD..one

seller from Nepal has offered me a Rudraksha Mala 3-14 Mukhi+ GS +

Ganaesha...and he wrote that he himself does not know why he is offering so

huge discount..also he will get the mala energized at Pashupatinath Temple..i

havevisited that temple 18 years back..Saab Gorakh ki maya aur Marji hai..you

are right, i need rest..as i am writing this email.. my body is still shaking

...to realize

oneself as GOD..one gets so much of the GODDISH energy.. that now i know..it

isvery difficult for an ordinary person like me to even face it..this morning i

meditated as Shiva..it is all by HIS grace..he has chosen me to express

myself well.. this is the purpose of my life in this re-incarnation and this

forum hashelped me a lot..to share my feelings..Thanks to moderators for giving

me an invitation to join this group..Aum

anil, Divakara Tanjore

<div_tan> wrote:>> Dear Anil,>> This excess energy will generate a lot of

heat in your

> body, keep drinking a lot of water and fluids, just> relax and do things which

you like for a few days,> dont exert your self doing a lot of mantra chanting,>

as long as you have compassion and love in you heart

> Lord shiva will always love you, you need plenty of> rest.>> Once your body

adjusts to this energy you will be a> changed person spiritually, you can do

more of Lord> Shiva's work, for now just relax and let the energy

> ground itself.>> Enjoy your self and by joyous.> Om namah shivaya,> Regds,>

Divakar.>> --- prasanna kumar <prasannakumar21@g...> wrote:>> > Dear esteem

members

> > I wish to help Mr anilji let us all together pray> > from him,so that i> >

can be back to normal.Today i have pray for him ,i> > hope other also help> >

him in this regard.

> > with warm Regards> > Prasanna> >> >> >> >>>>>>>

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Message: 9 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:00:24 +0800 (CST) pillai george

<pillai_george .sg>Mercury ShivalingamDear Bro's and

Sister's,

An Article that attracts me at Rudra Centre.www.rudraksha-ratna.comHe who

worships Mercury Shivalingam devotedly, whether one is male or female, Brahmin,

Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra gets full worldly pleasures, and at last attains

supreme destination (salvation). During life-span they get glory, honour, high

office, name and fame, sons, grandsons and perfection in learning. At last they

get salvation. The virtue got by seeing the Twelve Jyotirlingas is received only

by looking at the Mercury Shivalinga. The chance to look at it is possible only

when the worshipper's virtues of previous births come to light. By worshipping

the Mercury Shivalingas, the worshipper gets the fruits which are attained only

by worshipping Shivalingas which are situated in three Lokas (cosmic worlds).

Complete with 8 Sanskaars(8 stage of Purifications done as per Parad Sanmhita)

and removal of Saptakanchuki(100 % medicated and hygienic); the Siddha

Parad(Mercury mouth closed with Aghor Vidhya) is formed to make

Murthi-Badhha/Agnibadha(sustain the heat) Shiva lingam.

Prepared by Ayurvedic methods as written in ancient scriptures. Made out of

Siddh Parad/Mercury and rare herbs. The Shivling contains no other metal except

Mercury. It can be made to powder by crushing and as well can be turned in to

the Pure Mercury form by heating to the very high temperature comply with the

Parad Sanmhita. The Extract from this Shivling gives 24 Ras and 5 Tatva which

removes all diseases in the body. To have a Shiva lingam made from

Parad/Mercury, one must be blessed through good karmic deeds of past lives.

Pandit Shree Deenanathji mades it for Rudra centre.Brief about Panditji Shree

DeenanathjiBorn in Aug 1938 in a small village named Nadbai, in the district of

Bharatpur (Rajasthan), Pundit Shree Dinanathji was highly inclined to learn the

secrets of Ayurveda. To fulfill his keen desire to learn the science of

Ayurveda especially the Parad/Mercury, he joined the ashram of Saint Shree

Nirmalandji Chaitanya Brahmachai in 1971 to study mercury science. His ashram

was in southern corner of Narmada river.

Later he did his research and development on mercury at many holy places of

India namely Omkareshwar, Amarkantak, Haridwar, Hrishikesh, Pushkar, Badrinath,

Gangotri and Jamnotri. 40 years ago he opened a Ayurvedic medical research

centre in Dosa district near Jaipur. Now he is in Jaipur since last 20 years

running a medical centre which provides facilities for treatment of asthma,

blood pressure, liver, diabetes, skin, gastritis, rheumatism, arthritis,

thyroid related problems.

YoursGeorge PillaiNew and

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10 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:41:37 +0800 (CST) pillai george <

pillai_george .sg>Body ShakingDear Anil ji,Your body have

received abundant cosmic energy. Body shake is very normal at this situation.

The cosmic energy will pass thru 72000 nadi's to activate your chakras. After

the third eye opening get yourself ready to go on a Astral journey. It will be

a wonderful experience (soul) seeing your own body.

Lord Subramaniam told Saint Arunagirinathar toJust sit quietly, close your eye,

don't think anything or chant any mantra's.Just Relax,relax,relax.You will

become a "Miraculous Creator"

YoursGeorge PillaiMeet your soulmate!

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11 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:15:55 +0800 (CST)

pillai george <pillai_george .sg>JokesThis story was

sent by a Yogi from Switzerland who founded the Geneva Sivananda Yoga Center.

The Swiss, as we all know, tend to be placid people. Some go as far as claiming

that we are occasionnally somewhat slow.Three Swiss monks of the benedictine

order were meditating high in the Alps. Suddenly, a beautiful milk cow walked

by.

The first monk said : "HHHMMM, this is Fritz's cow, I tell you".Half an hour

later, the second monk said : " HHHMMM, really that was Kurt's cow. I'm quite

sure".An other half hour later, the third Swiss monk stood up and said "I'm

going away, I can't stand you guys having an argument around me when I'm trying

to meditate"....

YoursGeorge PillaiNew and

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12 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:05:01 +0800 (CST)

pillai george <pillai_george .sg>SignalsThe only

survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small, uninhabited island.

He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he scanned the horizon

for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually managed to build

a little hut out of driftwood to protect him from the elements, and to store his

few possessions.

But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to find his little

hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky.The worst had happened;

everything was lost. He was stunned with grief and anger.

"God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.Early the next day, however, he was

awakened by the sound of a ship that was approaching the island. It had come to

rescue him."How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his rescuers.

"We saw your smoke signal," they replied.It is easy to get discouraged when

things are going bad. But we shouldn't lose heart, because God is at work in

our lives, even in the midst of pain and suffering.

Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground, it just may be a

smoke signal that summons the grace of God.YoursGeorge

Pillai

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Message: 13 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:32:57 -0000 "goodgirllakshmi"

<goodgirllakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in>seeking your advice

Dear memberscan some one guide me on Silver-Parad Shiv Ling.Its benifits and how

toget and puja

procedureslakshmi______________________

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14 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:14:49 -0000 "Jatadhar"

<JCsharanananda (AT) aol (DOT) com

>Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The Three and t...I replied to

this once and for some strange reason my reply was notposted; so I reply here

again.....

, "saidevo"<saidevo> wrote:>> Dear

JCsharanananda Ji,>> 1. In my limited familiarity, I have not read anywhere in>

Theosophical literature that Theosophy favours fair-skinned

> and condemns dark-skinned. ...> 2. I think Theosophy has nothing to do with

the Aryan Invasion> or Aryan Supremacy Theory that the British and Nazis

populated.> The AIT has lately been discounted by the BBC as its Website

> says. If you think otherwise, please indicate a source that> says that

Theosophy favours the 'Aryans', the fair-skinned.> 3. However, it should be

admitted that Theosophy favours> Buddhism more than Hinduism, which may be

because of the rituals

> in our religion. ....> 4. My personal impression is that as Theosophy gains

more and> more acceptance in the New Age, there is a danger that the> modern

theosophists might present the timeless concepts of

> Vedatanta as those originated in the West. ........>> Regards,> saidevoyou can

find much on the nazis and their interest in theosophy.anyone who has an even

limited knowledge of this sees that the nazis

used the swastika. their arayan theories were inspired by theosophyand varna.

on a side note the nazis went to tibet on an expeditionto measure the cranial

structures of the tibetans to see if they werepartially arayan.

amyone with a search engine could type in "nazi theosophy" and cometo several

references. I found it out from history text books inschool.for those who are

unable to look at their search engines or history

books....here are a few reference materials that might provokefurther

study.....While on the surface the members of the third Reich looked like

theyhad mostly political aims, they actually harbored many extreme and

dangerous "religious" and mythological views, which in time theyhoped to bring

to the forefront of Germany. Hitler and his followerswere fascinated by

occultism and psychical research. One suchfascination was with the teachings of

a Mme Blavatsky, around the

late 1800s early 1900s in a school of thought now called TheosophyTheosophy was

a conglomeration of teachings including occultism,research into ghosts and

paranormal phenomena, and an extensivephilosophical/religious base often based

upon mythology, the gnostic

new testament, a sort of 'Atlantean cult" and "Alexandrian"teachings.1While the

term can be applied generically to a group of philosophies:"...Gr: knowledge of

things divine, fr. ? wise in the things of God;

God + wise: cf. F. th['e]osophie.] Any system of philosophy ormysticism which

proposes to attain intercourse with God and superiorspirits, and consequent

superhuman knowledge, by physical processes,as by the theurgic operations of

some ancient Platonists, or by the

chemical processes of the German fire philosophers; also, a direct,as

distinguished from a revealed, knowledge of God, supposed to beattained by

extraordinary illumination; especially, a direct insightinto the processes of

the divine mind, and the interior relations of

the divine nature.(Webster 1913) ormore recently: Medieval Latin theosophia,

from Late Greek, from Greekthe- + sophia wisdom -- more at -SOPHY 1 : teaching

about God and theworld based on mystical insight 2 often capitalized : the

teachings

of a modern movement originating in the U.S. in 1875 and followingchiefly

Buddhist and Brahmanic theories especially of pantheisticevolution and

reincarnation (Miriam Webster online), the movement and current rendering of

Theosophy is primarily

identified with the works of Blavatsky and cohorts around the turn ofthe

century.Part and parcel to the philosophy was the belief that one day, therace

of superior human beings who inhabited the semi-mythical Lost

City of Atlantis would reappear, through the superior Aryan peoples.They also

argued that there have been successions of 'root races" andthat we are in the

5th root of 7. When the 7th arrives, it will be

equated with power and perfection. A beginning, inferior race whichthey equated

with the Hebrews of History found in the Bible would beutter replaced, and

necessarily for the more advanced to take hold.Blavatsky and others believed

that as the human race evolved,

the 'superior' race would find its place by supplanting this earlierroot race. A

Utopia in Theosophy would only come about eventually asan evolved, genetically

superior persons descended from theAtlanteans would take hold, displacing a

people they identified as

the Jews and other inferior races. This new superior race was alignedwith and

akin to Hitler's concept of the "Master Race". Hitler,Himmler and other Inner

Circle members ascribed to thesephilosophies, although they kept them secret

from the general German

public earlier in the war. The Eugenicists of the time, funded andendorsed by

the Third Reich, active both in Europe and in Americathought to apply their

pseudo-science to the controlled advent ofthis end.

Among Blavatsky's early circle of followers who met for study andseances, were

the author Arthur Conan Doyle, and Westcott & Hort, there-translators of the

Bible version Revised Standard 2. Blavatsky's

influence was widely felt, not only in certain philosophies adheredto by the

Third Reich, but in the development of what is now referredto as "New Age"

philosophies. Westcott and Hort and others of her

followers helped found a society to study ghosts,3 which later becamethe Society

for Psychical Research, which is still extant, andstudies many instances of

paranormal phenomena.Warning Signs of Root Race Theory

I. Frequent mention of Atlantis,the descendants of Atlantis, or therecently

discovered "ruins of Atlantis" (not proven to be fromAtlantis)noteII. Notions

of Racial Superiority, or one race having characteristics

nearing perfection.III. A Replacement Race Ideas expressed about the

'replacement' of afinal race over earlier more primitive races.IV.Final Race

War: A more estoteric mention of a philsophy held by

Himmler called 'Volkeschaos" or "the peoples/nations Chaos" referringto an end

time final war (like Armaggedon, but not the same) in whichall races or ethnic

groups hold a final bloody battle, resulting in

Victory for a Master Race.V. Talk of Philosophy and Religion as a mix, using

theterm "Theosophy" as a religious term instead of directly referring toit as a

separate belief system.Root Race theory is not a 'religious group" but a

quasi-doctrine,

which may be adapted to many belief systems. The two main places itis found are

in Theosophy, where it forms the foundation for theoverall view of the course

of mankind, and in White Aryanism orNazism, where it is used as motivation for

racial cleansing or

purifying. The belief that a Master Race must emerge replacing lesserraces,

motivated the Nazis to Endlosung or the "Final Solution" ofthe 'Jewish Problem'

which translated into the mass extermination of

the Jews of Europe.Blavatsky's Polarian Race (The First Root Race)Blavatsky's

account of evolution, like those of her successors, isanthropocentric,

pertaining to the evolution of man, not of theEarth. But it is an evolution

extended out through cycles of cosmic

evolution, into the cosmos, so it is not just an anthropology, but acosmology as

well. She speaks of human evolution in terms of anumber of Root-Races, each of

which existed for a while before beingreplaced by the next. The early

Root-Races were not even physical at

all, but vast, amorphous, etheric beings."The First Root-Race, i.e. the first

"men" on earth (irrespective ofform) were the progeny of the "celestial

men"...in Indian philosophy

the "Lunar Ancestors" or the Pitris, of which there are seven classesor

Hierarchies" [p.74]Unlike Judeo-Christianity, in Blavatsky's cosmology, "man"

is thecreation of higher spiritual hierarchies, but not of "God". They are

described as the astral Shadows of the Progenitors [p.181, 188], "soethereal and

so little human in constitution they could not beaffected by any elements -

flood or fire" [p.181].Just as the Polarians are themselves non-physical, so

was

the "continent" upon which they dwelled. It is referred to asthe "Imperishable

Sacred Land", which did not "share the fate of theother continents" [p.152]

(i.e. to be destroyed at the end of the

era).The Polarians reproduced through fission, as the amoeba does today[p.189].

They "were devoid of all understanding (mind, intelligence,and will)." [p.188].

They were "ethereal, a-sexual, and even

devoid...of desire" [p.176]. The individuals of this Race did notactually die.

Instead, they "melted gradually away, becomingabsorbed in the bodies of their

own "sweat-born" progeny (the Second

Race), more solid than their own." [p.179].Blavatsky's thesis that our distant

progenitors were gigantic ethericamoebas may seem incredible at first, but

support comes from a ratherunexpected quarter: a UFO researcher, Trevor James

Constable, who

photographed unusual UFO phenomena using infra-red film in anotherwise ordinary

camera.Blavatsky's Polarian Root Race, and even the term "Polarian", wasadopted

with little modification by Rudolph Steiner

and from wikipedia a note....OverviewNazi mysticism is a volkish initiation with

roots in the Thulesociety and theosophy, as well as the racist ideas of Arthur

deGobineau. Guido von List and Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels were important

figures .............Research and expeditionsA great deal of time and resources

were spent on researching orcreating a popularly accepted "historical",

"cultural"and "scientific" background so the ideas about a "superior" Aryan

race could prosper in the German society of the time. Mysticalorganizations such

as the Thule Society, Schwarze Sonne, VrillSociety and others were created,

usually connected with elite SScorps, and adopting specific rituals,

initiations and beliefs.

Expeditions in Tibet, Nepal, Greece, the Arctic, and Neuschwabenlandin

Antarctica were organized in the search for the mythical "Aryan"nation of

Hyperborea, whose capital, Ultima Thule was supposedly

built by the extraterrestrial ancestors of the "Aryan races" who camefrom the

star Aldebaran, according to some of the "Aryan" theories.A German expedition

to Tibet was organized in order to search for the

origins of the Aryan race. To this end, the expedition leader, ErnstSchäfer, had

his anthropologist Bruno Beger make face masks and skulland nose

measurements.Similar expeditions were organized in the pursuit of semi-mythical

objects believed to bring power or granting special powers to theirowner, such

as the Holy Grail and the Spear of Destiny.again, anyone with access to a

history book, library or search enginecan easy read very much on this topic,

its not some dusty secret

hidden away.now as to your new age idea and support of theosophy, thats a

matterof opinion and personal conscience. it pains me though that youwould be

so quick to forgive a movement that was championed by adolph

hitler and other racists and new agers. It pains me because we arebrothers

under mahadev. please read more and keep open mind beforedefending these new

age movements. kali yuga has long long long timeleft. the vaishnavas and

shaivites of traditional lineages are in

agreement on this. and traditional buddhists believe that coming ofmaitreya is

a long long time away.if one wants to read alot, that is those who have lots of

time ontheir hands they can read blavatsky herself here.....The Secret

Doctrine by H. P. Blavatskyhere is a little more..... The Secret HistoryThe

Secret History's most important figures are perhaps self-proclaimed Russian

mystic Madame Helena Blavatsky and her American

husband Colonel Henry Olcott. The result of their collaboration wouldthrust the

world into the abyss and cost the lives of millions.Their Theosophy ideology

became popular amongst the middle classes in

Germany at the end of the 1800's, mostly because of its introductionto Eastern

religious and mystical ideas. Blavatsky claimed to havebeen party to

revelations from Hidden Masters called the "Great White

Brotherhood" who resided somewhere in the Himalayas. But Blavatskylater

admitted in letters to her sister that this was a codename forthe Rosicrucian

hierarchy who funded her. It is clear her work isinfluenced, if not sourced,

in the work of Masonic demagogue General

Albert Pike - the American South's Sovereign Grand Commander of theSupreme

Council of the 33rd Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry,Civil War war criminal,

and leading member of the Ku Klux Klan - whorevealed Rosicrucian/Masonic

doctrine and its "Aryan heritage" in his

unpublished pamphlet Morals & Dogma (1871) that was distributed toSublime Prince

of the Royal Secret (32nd degree) Scottish Riteinitiates.Albert Pike is regarded

as bringing "order out of chaos" by rewriting

the ancient rites of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, formerly devised bygroups in

France including the Council of the Emperors of the Eastand West (now known as

the European Council of Princes) and the RoyalStewart's Chapter of Clermont,

based at the College of the Jesuits,

Paris in 1761. Pike modernized these rituals for the modern Americanleader, and

explained their Aryan source and meaning in Morals &Dogma and numerous other

works. At this time Pike was head of theSupreme Council of Scottish Rite

Freemasonry, based in Charleston,

South Carolina, and following the Civil War and dropped charges oftreason

against Pike, the Supreme Council moved to Washington DC.Blavatsky's

breakthrough book The Secret Doctrine (1888) was anattempt to popularize the

racist concepts of Rosicrucian belief at a

time of great change and turmoil. America was recovering from theCivil War, and

the abolition of Slavery was forcing a redefinition ofthe West's perception of

Race. The radical decision to reveal thebeliefs of the power elite came at a

time when desperate measures

seemed necessary. The Priory of Sion within the Royal Houses ofEurope and

various occult circles were attempting to create amovement with their Synarchy

ideology, a politicized form ofRosicrucian dogma. Synarchy advocated

government by secret society -

an elite of enlightened initiates who rule from behind the scenes.This found

expression through the writings of Joseph Saint-Yvesd'Alveydre, which called

for the infiltration of "the three keypillars of society... political and

social institutions, economic

institutions, and religious institutions". The infamous Protocols ofthe Learned

Elders of Sion (commonly known by its Old Englishvariant "Zion") are clearly

some form of manifesto for theimplementation of Synarchy's aims, and are signed

by

the "representatives of Sion of the 33rd degree". Not surprisingly,the content

of the Protocols have much similarity to Albert Pike'scentral work Morals and

Dogma. Synarchy was opposed to ideas of

democracy and social equality, as only the Synarchists werethe "natural

leaders".As the masses of Europe were rising up rebelliously against

theirfeudal overlords, the Holy Roman Empire was in disarray. The First

Reich, founded in 800 by the 'Emperor of the West' Charlemagne, hadbeen smashed

by Napoleon following the French Revolution. WithNapoleon's eventual defeat,

the Holy Roman Empire reformed in aweakened and splintered state.

Prussia/Germany took the former

Gnostic Cathar regions of Lorraine and Alsace back from revolutionaryFrance, and

established the Second Empire under Kaiser Wilhelm I. Hewas allied with the

Austrian-Hungarian-Croatian Empire, which wasstill under the control of the

Grail bloodline House of Habsburg, who

had been ruling for the previous 600 years. Power was still verymuch in the

hands of the Princes of Europe and the Vatican, who foundunity within their

occult "Secret Church" that has historically

always existed behind the "Visible Church".Theosophy was born in 1875, a key

time of political upheavalsthroughout Europe, as Russia was moving towards

revolution, followingthe examples set by America and France. The Theosophy

movement was

an attempt to occultize the newly emerging industrial and merchantclass and

provide a spiritual antidote to Marxism straight from theRosicrucian philosophy

that previously had been for hand-pickedinitiates only. The Grail aristocratic

families of the Holy Roman

Empire were planning to reunify the old territories and needed thecontrol and

support of the managing classes. It is no coincidencethat their plan to

"infiltrate Freemasonry and seize absolute control

of the Western World's social, political and economic institutions"as outlined

in the Protocols of Sion appeared simultaneously with theSynarchy ideology and

the creation of Madame Blavatsky's Theosophymovement. As the Protocols stress

"Our philosophers will discuss all

the shortcomings of the various beliefs of the manipulated. But no-one will

ever bring under discussion our faith from its true point ofview since this

will be fully learned by none save ours who willnever dare betray its secrets".

At the turn of the 20th century this agenda was again outlined in thePriory of

Sion's Hieron du Val D'Or that described "a theocracywherein nations will be no

more than provinces, their leaders but

proconsuls in the service of a world occult government consisting ofan elite.

This regime of the Great King will be a double hegemony ofthe Papacy and the

Empire, of the Vatican and of the Habsburgs".This ambitious scheme was thwarted

with the assassination of the

Habsburg heir Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria in 1914, an eventthat ignited

the First World War.Theosophy's teachings about enlightened mystics guiding

humanevolution towards the creation of a higher super-race, and pseudo-

theories about the ancient Aryan civilization of Atlantis, promoteddangerous

racial theories that formed the core of Austrian and Germananti-Semitism.From

an aristocratic background, Helena Blavatsky, the widow of

Russian Army General Count Blavatsky, designed elaborate geneticfamily trees

that clearly illustrated the superiority of the Aryanpeople over the other

races of the world. These strange beliefs wereheralded by middle class

occultists throughout Germany and Austria-

Hungary and merged with their extreme right-wing nationalistpolitics. Hence,

complete reunification of the Holy Roman Empire,effectively abolished by

Napoleon in 1806, became a priority not onlyof the ruling aristocracies, but

also of the merchant middle classes.

The ensuing horrors of the First World War was an attempt to takeFrance from the

democratic Republicans by a vengeful aristocracy whohad seen their brethren

murdered by the French revolution. The newmiddle-class occultists such as

Guido von List and his Armanen Order,

Baron von Sebottendorf and his Thule Society, and Lanz von Liebenfelsand the

Order of the New Templars refered to the First World War as aHoly War,

revealing the quasi-religious and philosophical motives of

their Hidden Masters. It has been documented that Nazi party leadersAdolf

Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Rudolph Hess and Hermann Goering wereall members of

these occult secret societies. The Protocols of theLearned Elders of Sion and

the Hieron du Val d'Or are proof that a

conspiracy of epic proportions was at play behind the broaderpolitical scene.The

end of the First World War resulted in Kaiser Wilhelm I beingbanished to Belgium

and the removal of the Habsburgs from the throne

of the Second Empire--the global "hegemony of Great King and Pope"was delayed.

The Habsburg's reluctant abdication was upon theinsistence of the Allied

nations and their Treaty of St. Germaine.Incidentally, the Order of St.

Germaine is the French Royal Stewart

equivalent of the Habsburg's Order of Sion (each laying claim togenetic

superiority and Kingship of Jerusalem) - such is the secretsubtext of European

war and politics. The magickally relevantregions of Alsace and Lorraine were

promptly returned to the Republic

of France through the Treaty of Versailles, which not so muchinfuriated a young

Hitler, as his aristocratic Hidden Masters behindthe curtain. While their

agenda had brutally backfired, the GreatWhite Brotherhood were by no means

beaten, and a simple reversal of

the truth (a common propaganda technique) would lead them ever closerto their

goal, and introduce the world to perhaps their greatest spindoctor.In his

popular book Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler conveniently used the

Protocols of the Elders of Sion to deceptively "prove" that a globalconspiracy

was afoot - but led by the League of Jewish Rabbis. Thisstirred massive

anti-Semitism that ultimately justified the Holocaust

to the German people. Earlier in 1919, the newly formed ThuleSociety had

distributed copies of the controversial Protocols totroops of the White Russian

army loyal to the Czar, in an attempt toblame the Jews for the ensuing

Revolution. This led to the massacre

of 60,000 Jews over two years, and was perhaps the beginning of theJewish

Holocaust. The Rosicrucian Protocols document is still usedby neo-Nazi groups

throughout the world to stir anti-Semitism andhate. Even today Rebublican

David Duke promotes these same anti-

Semitic theories on his popular website and continues to blame theRussian

Revolution on the Jewish people, regardless of the historicaloppression of the

Russian people that motivated this conflict. Thefact that Jerusalem's Mount

Sion/Zion is prophesied (according to St.

John's Revelation) as the place of the Second Coming of Jesus Christis

conveniently ignored by these right-wing groups. As is the factthat the premier

secret organization dedicated to this Second Coming,albeit through a complex and

conflicted view of genetic bloodlines

and reactionary socio-political models, is the Priory of Sion.Although thought

by many academics to be a creation of Russian CzarNicholas II's secret police,

to those aware of occult references theProtocols of Sion clearly show the hand

of the Grail/Dragon

sovereignty. It is likely the Czarists altered the texts to includetraditional

Jewish terminology that otherwise has no place in what isobviously a

Rosicrucian agenda with Jesuit undertones.The Yiddish word "Goyim" (meaning

Gentile) has been inserted in as

many places as possible, even in places grammatically inappropriate.Written in a

tone of lofty superiority, echoed in the contemporarywritings of Nicholas De

Vere, the masses are refered to throughoutas "the Mob", "bloodthirsty beasts",

"alcoholized animals"

and "cattle". Passages such as "From the premier-dictators of theday the

peoples suffer greatly and bear such abuses, as for the leastof them they would

have beheaded twenty kings... unification must be

achieved only under our Sovereign rule", clearly reveal an embitteredpost-French

Revolution power elite planning to restore the "King ofthe blood of Sion whom we

are preparing for the World".

Also overlooked in the analysis of the Protocols is their similarityto the

little heard of "Secret Instructions of the Society of Jesus",which outline a

goal of bringing in a golden age or millenium with

the entire world under the authority of the Pope to enable the SecondComing of

Jesus Christ. Indeed, the Jesuits' Secret Instructionscould be considered a

prototype of the Protocols of Sion with itsrhetoric of subterfuge such as "We

must inculcate this doctrine with

Kings and Princes, that the Catholic faith cannot exist in thepresent state,

without politics; but that in this, it is necessary toproceed with much

certainty. Of this mode, we must share theaffection of the great, and be

admitted to the most secret

councils.""We must be careful to change our politics, conforming to the

times,and excite the Princes, friends of ours to mutually make terriblewars

that everywhere the mediation of the Society will be implored;

that we may be employed in the public reconciliation... the Societyafterwards

can count on the favor and authority of the Princes,procuring that those who do

not love us shall fear us."Discovered towards the end of the Holy Roman Empire's

Thirty Year War

with itself that resulted in France being given part of Alsace andLorraine (only

to be later reclaimed by the Second and Third Empires)and cities ruined and

millions dead, the Jesuits' Secret Instructionsclearly are an inspirational

source for the Protocols of Sion, which

would be written 200 years later following the formation of Ancient &Accepted

Scottish Rite Freemasonry. With passages such as "If thePope should return as

temporal prince of all the properties; for as

much as it is very necessary to extend little by little, with muchsecrecy and

skill, the temporalities of the Society; and not havingany doubt that the world

will enter the Golden Age" there can be no

doubt that The Protocols of the Elders of Sion are the work of theJesuits, the

European Council of Princes, and their Rosicrucianallies within 33rd Degree

Scottish Rite Freemasonry. As outlined inthe final Protocol "Confirming the

roots of King David and the

training of the King", the Grail/Christ bloodline conspirators insistthat

"sensuality worse than all else disorganizes the capacities ofthe mind and

clearness of views" and should not be a quality of their

King - thus denying any instinctive connection to his humanity intrue Jesuit and

Rosicrucian style. There is little in Judaism aboutthe repressing of the senses

in order to achieve any kind of kinghood.

Following the widespread distribution of the Protocols by the ThuleSociety and

Hitler's protege Alfred Rosenberg, it was theadded "Jewish" elements that were

seized upon by Hitler's Mein Kampfand Henry Ford's The International Jew.

Conveniently both of these

fervantly anti-Semitic works chose to ignore the Rosicrucianreferences of the

Protocols, and the fact that the "Return of theKing" agenda is not

traditionally Jewish or a historical goal ofJewish Zionism, but the secret goal

of the Catholic/Rosicrucian/Grail

elites. Perhaps the popularization of the altered Protocols was anattempt at

damage control, and a pointing of the finger away from thetrue authors, as

their actual neo-feudalistic agenda was becomingknown by political and occult

scholars. Or something even more

nefarious: "It is hardly credible that the baddies would reveal theirfell

purposes so blatantly", commented Foucault's Pendulum authorUmberto Eco on the

current recycling of the Protocols within popular

culture and the disturbing rise of "crude forms of racism of the neo-Celtic

kind" -- and yet the use of the Protocols was the primaryjustification for the

Holocaust and the attempted annihilation of the

Jews, who are regarded as the historical "perfidious Enemy" of bothJesuit and

Rosicrucian elites.Hitler's Third Empire would go one step further than

Theosophy,taking Rosicrucian and Occult theories directly to the working class

people of Germany, and openly running the country according to theirprinciples.

Their use of Rosicrucian symbolism, the Swastika, theNuremberg rallies/rituals,

and inner occult orders withinHimmler's "SS", who like the Knights of Malta and

Dragon Court

insisted upon a long heritage of pure Aryan blood before initiation,clearly

illustrates how linked National Socialism was with the secretagenda and beliefs

of the power elite. It is clear the Nazi movement

was a new approach to feudalism, by the same aristocratic rulingpowers.

Realizing that some sense of revolution must be fulfilled inthe ordinary

working classes, Nazism gave the impression ofrevolution, but was in fact the

Restoration of the feudal overlords

of the Holy Roman Empire, and the beginning of the National

Socialistdeception.Hitler's personal aide escaped his clutches and fled to

Britain. In1939 he wrote an eye witness account of the madness of the Third

Reich: "What will the social order of the future be like? Comrade, Iwill tell

you. There will be a class of overlords, after them therank and file of the

party members in hierarchical order, and then

the great mass of anonymous followers, servants and workers inperpetuity, and

beneath them again all the conquered foreign races,the modern slaves. And over

and above all these will reign a new andexalted nobility of whom I cannot speak.

But of all these plans the

militant members will know nothing. The new man is living amongst usnow! He is

here. Isn't that enough for you? I will tell you asecret. I have seen the

new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I wasafraid of him" - Adolf Hitler quoted

from "Hitler Speaks" by Hermann

Rauschning.Hitler could not have expressed the aims of the Protocols of

theElders of Sion or the Hieron du Val d'Or more eloquently. Today theagenda

of the power elite continues using its network of Occult and

political structures - from the unaccountable Bilderberg Group to theelite of

the Dragon Court, from the undemocratic TrilateralCommission to the

transnational Knights of Malta. Through theirinfluence and control the

Synarchists continue to stay on top of the

power pyramid, regardless of how much global suffering and misery iscaused, and

maintain the anti-democratic structures of a hiddenfeudalist system. By his

own admission, the new head of the EuropeanCouncil of Princes HRH Prince

Michael Stewart recently replaced HSH

Prince Otto von Habsburg of Austria as chief representative of thethirty three

Royal Houses of Europe. These are the thirty three HolyGrail bloodline royal

families who bizarrely claim descent from JesusChrist (who they believe was a

Dragon high priest/king), and their

historical goal remains the same. But who exactly are their allies?Has the

Western world finally and completely internalized the valuesof the Great White

Brotherhood?Again these same secret societies are revealing the inner secrets

of

their inverted belief system, in the hope of converting new followersin key

positions of influence. Their philosophers continue to seducethe highest

levels of the military, politics, and business, and reach

out to the public through books, lectures, and the internet. Whilethe economic

and political power of 21st Century Synarchy spindoctors such as Sir Laurence

Gardner and Prince Nicholas de Vere isnarrow, their esteemed position and

knowledge within occult circles

will almost certainly reach many with genuine clout: namely highlevel Freemasons

and Rosicrucians within the corporate-military-industrial complex. While most

of the world naively believesdemocracy has truly replaced feudalism, the

concentration of wealth

in the hands of a few, with majority ownership of stocks, bonds andreal estate,

and even the 2000 American Presidential elections,proves the contrary. The

richest 254 people in the world own morewealth than 47% of the global

population.

Right-wing conspiracy theorists mistakenly believe the goal of thesecret

societies is a One World Utopia, or Global Socialist State,but this couldn't be

further from the truth. Synarchy's "Global

Village" will be ruled by the "Dark Lords from their Castles ofDarkness";

reigning supreme, uncontested, and as the past has shown,plotting to starve the

poor to feed the rich, while a divided middle-

class competes for the scraps--a historical socio-political modelthat is the

norm in most developing countries. Undemocratic andinaccessible political and

economic organizations - whether ultra-conservative "think-tanks" or

globalization commissions - ultimately

harness the methodology of fascism, and are the enemies of a trulydemocratic and

open World Unity or Global Village.The biblical struggle against the anti-Christ

is not some futureevent - it is History, past and present, and symbolic of the

struggle

between anti-hero and hero, darkness and light, feudalism anddemocracy.The

likely consequences of the Occult Conspiracy suggest that theeconomic,

political, and social decision making of individuals allied

with the aims of the European aristocatic secret society network,whether in the

Vatican, the British Crown, the American Government,European politics,

transnational Corporations, or the vastbureaucracy of Nato's military machine,

will consciously or

unconsciously reflect their initiation, indoctrination, andallegiance to the

Aryan/Rosicrucian white supremacist perception ofthe world.Having internalized

their Rulers of the Universe values, mega-

corporations and conglomerates backed by the WTO and other

spuriousorganizations, are attempting to hold the world to ransom bycopyright

patenting essential items for basic human survival, such ashuman DNA,

genetically modified rice and wheat that is forced upon

Third World farmers, and life-saving AIDS drugs (most of which weredeveloped by

public-funded universities). While the poorestcountries face trade sanctions

for trying to stay alive, moreelaborate methods of "bio-piracy" are being

devised to more

effectively steal the natural resources of our world. As drugcompanies reach

yearly profits of over $1.3 billion each, the powerelite's starve the poor to

feed the rich methodology continues intothe 21st Century. Even the CIA admits

in its recent Global 2015

report that the gap between rich and poor will grow greater with theeffects of

globalization. As South Africa's Nelson Mandela recentlyasked "Is there a

direct link between Africa's poverty, and theWestern world's wealth?" According

to Rosicrucian logic, this

inequality is not only necessary, but vital.The Spider's Web of cause and

effect, of safe-guarding interests,wealth, resources and position, and the

seeking of supreme andultimate power--economic, political, and

magickal--ultimately opposes

all progressive moves towards global democracy and freedom, humanrights and

social justice, which are perceived as a direct threat tothe New World Order

historical agenda of the Great White Brotherhood,and their reactionary Secret

Church, with all its various

denominations, royal courts, orders, and covens, who find unity ofpurpose and

intent through their Aryan white supremacist

beliefsystem.______________________

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15 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:13:39 -0000 "anil"

<anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in

>Re: Need immd help..body shaking..Thank you..I have always wanted to

do astral travel and meet my spiritual gurus to guide mefurther.. i have always

felt them to be with me.. but i want to meet them and seek

guidance..whenever i do meditation.. i only see as a light in a cave as my

spiritualgurus..i guess i need some relaxation.. shaking is becomeing more as i

keep writing andthinking about these things..

AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA..anil,

"pillai_george"<pillai_george> wrote:>>

> Dear Anil,>> Not to worry,> Your body as received much cosmic energy which

goes thru all the> 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You will feel

what> you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is very normal.Get ready> for

Astral Journey after the third eye opening.>> As what Lord Subramaniam have

told Saint Arunagirinathar.> Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close

your eyes.> Just relax,relax,relax.

>> Om namah shivaya>> Yours> George Pillai>> --- In

, "anil"

> <anil_bindal2000> wrote:> >> > Aum.> >> > Since morning my body is giving

me jerks and it is shaking> sideways, L-R, sometimes> > R-L., diagonally,

clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much energy

> within and i am> > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..> >>

> it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..> >> > Need immd

help..

> >> > What is happening to me ??> >> > rgds> > anil>

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16 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Divakara Tanjore

<div_tan

>Re: SignalsVery inspiring.Thanks,Divakar.--- pillai george

<pillai_george .sg> wrote:>>>

> The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a> small, uninhabited

island.>> He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and> every day he scanned

the horizon for help, but none

> seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually managed> to build a little hut

out of driftwood to protect> him from the elements, and to store his few>

possessions.>> But then one day, after scavenging for food, he

> arrived home to find his little hut in flames, the> smoke rolling up to the

sky.>> The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was> stunned with grief

and anger.>> "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

>> Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the> sound of a ship that was

approaching the island. It> had come to rescue him.>> "How did you know I was

here?" asked the weary man

> of his rescuers.>> "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.>> It is easy to

get discouraged when things are going> bad. But we shouldn't lose heart,

because God is at

> work in our lives, even in the midst of pain and> suffering.>> Remember, next

time your little hut is burning to> the ground, it just may be a smoke signal

that> summons the grace of God.

>>>> Yours>> George Pillai>>>>>>>>> > Do you

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17 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT) arjun pandit <

panditarjun2004 >Re: Signalsdear brother georgeyour mails with

various stories are highly inspirational for all devotees, especially for those

in distress. please continue your posting such nice lessons whenever time

permits you.

with best wishesarjunmoderatorpillai george <pillai_george .sg>

wrote:The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small, uninhabited

island.

He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he scanned the horizon

for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually managed to build

a little hut out of driftwood to protect him from the elements, and to store his

few possessions.

But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to find his little

hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky.The worst had happened;

everything was lost. He was stunned with grief and anger.

"God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.Early the next day, however, he was

awakened by the sound of a ship that was approaching the island. It had come to

rescue him."How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his rescuers.

"We saw your smoke signal," they replied.It is easy to get discouraged when

things are going bad. But we shouldn't lose heart, because God is at work in

our lives, even in the midst of pain and suffering.

Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground, it just may be a

smoke signal that summons the grace of God.YoursGeorge

Pillai

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18 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:05:12 -0700 (PDT)

Divakara Tanjore <div_tan >Re: Re: Need immd

help..body shaking..Dear Anil,As we all requested please take some rest and let

your

body adjust to your new energy. You will surely findyour quests but right now

you need to take care ofyour self. in my opinion spiritual journey is a longand

arduous.From whatever I have read and personal experience, we

can try to contact spiritual guides, but they will getback to us only when they

feel the time is right andwhen we are ready for them, only in a high

relaxedstate we can see them or communicate with them. you

dont have to focus so hard, they will communicate in asimple manner like in your

thoughts or dreams orthrough people or happenings around you, you need anopen

mind and patience, sometimes you can see then

also.Relax and spend time with your family, let your normallife go on as it is,

spiritual things happen at a veryslow pace, having so many expectations so soon

willdisappoint you, I am telling this out of my personal

experience, things happen but they happen slowly, atthe pace God wants not at

the pace we want.Relax, Sleepwell, re-joice in life. Keep thingssimple, all

great things in this world are very simplewe just dont realize.

Regds,Divakar.--- anil <anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Thank you..>> I

have always wanted to do astral travel and meet my

> spiritual gurus to guide me> further.. i have always felt them to be with

me..> but i want to meet them and seek> guidance..whenever i do meditation.. i

only see as a> light in a cave as my spiritual

> gurus..>> i guess i need some relaxation.. shaking is> becomeing more as i

keep writing and> thinking about these things..>> AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA..>> anil>

,> "pillai_george">

<pillai_george> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Anil,

> >> > Not to worry,> > Your body as received much cosmic energy which> goes

thru all the> > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You> will feel

what> > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is

> very normal.Get ready> > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.> >> >

As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint> Arunagirinathar.> > Keep quiet,don't

think or chant any mantras close

> your eyes.> > Just relax,relax,relax.> >> > Om namah shivaya> >> > Yours> >

George Pillai> >> >

,> "anil"> > <anil_bindal2000>

wrote:> > >> > > Aum.> > >> > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it

> is shaking> > sideways, L-R, sometimes> > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise,

anticlockwise..i> feel so much energy> > within and i am> > > scared...it is

like there is an eartquake

> happening..> > >> > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating> on my

being..> > >> > > Need immd help..> > >> > > What is happening to me ??

> > >> > > rgds> > > anil> > >> >>>>>>

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Vijay ji,

 

each one has his own truth.. and there are as many truths as many souls and all

are

right..

 

just watch how our mind/ego tries to label our experiences and how insecure our

ego

is which tries to overcome faith..this I is so scared that it always wants to

illude your

trueself to create an insecure feeling..

 

Enjoy all this drama as an observer..observer the mind and the reactions in the

body

which are created and enoy and laugh at it..be observant of seer within us..

 

Aum or rather Happy Jesus Christ..and this gentleman..

 

We are all oneness..

 

i would like to recommend reading Conversation with GOD , all 3 volumes written

by

Donald Welsch..

 

the gentleman who has written this.. for him this is the way to find DOW

within..

 

Hari Om..

 

anil

 

, Vijay Balachandran

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> **

> *Attention to all,*

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> *Crude remarks have been made on lord shiva and ganash as well in this

> website, for your kind attention.*

> http://www.themiraclesofjesusministry.org/vision-1-30-05.htm

>

> Regards

> Vijay

> On 20 Oct 2005 22:04:26 -0000, <

> > wrote:

> >

> >

> > There are 19 messages in this issue.

> >

> > Topics in this digest:

> >

> > 1. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > 2. Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > 3. Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

> > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > 4. Re: mudras

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > 5. Re: God gave me everything

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 6. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 7. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 8. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 9. Mercury Shivalingam

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 10. Body Shaking

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 11. Jokes

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 12. Signals

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 13. seeking your advice

> > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

> > 14. Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The Three and t...

> > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > 15. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 16. Re: Signals

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > 17. Re: Signals

> > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > 18. Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > 19. Re: seeking your advice

> > KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

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> > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> >

> > Dear Anil,

> >

> > Not to worry,

> > Your body as received much cosmic energy which goes thru all the

> > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You will feel what

> > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is very normal.Get ready

> > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> >

> > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint Arunagirinathar.

> > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close your eyes.

> > Just relax,relax,relax.

> >

> > Om namah shivaya

> >

> > Yours

> > George Pillai

> >

> > , "anil"

> > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > >

> > > Aum.

> > >

> > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much energy

> > within and i am

> > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > >

> > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..

> > >

> > > Need immd help..

> > >

> > > What is happening to me ??

> > >

> > > rgds

> > > anil

> > >

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:32:39 -0000

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> >

> > Dear members

> > A very good effort from Sri K.S.RAO ji for a noble cause.I am happy

> > that shiva group is helping the efforts for Ancient Temples

> > Renovation.Let us all come forward help Prof. R. Radhakrishnan by

> > Providing financial support needed for the renovation of dilapidated

> > ancient temples.

> > With Warm Regards

> > Prasanna kumar

> > om namah shivaya

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> > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

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> > wow what a beautiful krishna

> > thank u

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> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > Re: mudras

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> > Dear members

> > I am sorry the picture in the message is not being displayed .Pls refer

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> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: God gave me everything

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> > BEAUTIFUL..

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> > HARI OM

> > anil

> > , pillai george <

> > pillai_george@y.

> > ..> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Peace

> > > He Showed Me How to Help Others

> > >

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Strength

> > > He Gave Me Difficult Situations to Face

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Brain

> > > He Gave Me Puzzles in Life to Solve

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Happiness

> > > He Showed Me Some Unhappy People

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Wealth

> > > He Showed Me How to Work Hard

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Favors

> > > He Showed Me Opportunities to Work Harder

> > >

> > > God Gave Me Nothing I Wanted

> > > He Gave Me Everything I Needed

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> > > Yours

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> > > George Pillai

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> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > My unconditional love to you and i bow to GOD within you..

> >

> > i feel OK.

> >

> > Aum Namah Shivaya namah Om.. chating is still ON inside me..

> >

> > AUM

> >

> > anil

> >

> > , KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Sh. Arun,

> > > Do not worry, it is accumulation of more positive energy in one of the

> > > chakras which got opened up. I have passed on Reiki energy to earth

> > excess

> > > enrgy as you wished to have immediate help. In case of any need you may

> > > contact me on my mobile

> > > KS Rao,

> > > Navi Mumbai

> > > Cell: 93242 94531

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > This is NarasimhaRao, I have 2+ years of exp. as java developer. Here I

> > am

> > > forwarding my cv.Plz go through this and let me know the details.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > J.Narasimharao

> > > 09867230696

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 10/19/05, anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > >

> > > > it started after i felt tremors due to earth quake in the morning.. i

> > live

> > > > on 14th floor in

> > > > gurgaon..

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > anil

> > > > , Mahapratibhawan

> > <branko.

> > > > ivatovic@g...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Anil,

> > > > > This is start spontaneous or after emotional shock?

> > > > > If your body not stop shaking please connect me direct to email.

> > > > > If you have best concentration please concentrate to point between

> > eyes

> > > > and

> > > > > up from this line on the forehead. Repeat heartily Om Namah Shivaya

> > (O

> > > > God

> > > > > all is Yours nothing My). Shavasana is perfect because is very easy

> > > > energy

> > > > > flow through Sushumna, but not good send any energy through

> > Sushumna! If

> > > > you

> > > > > can't see inner light or bindu and haven't inner sound (inner smell,

> > > > taste,

> > > > > touch) better not practice any technique because you without any

> > sign

> > > > > consciousness (Kunadalini Shakti or Para Shakti), only one from

> > Prana

> > > > Shakti

> > > > > go through you ida, pingala, sushumna or any nadi. Then shavasana or

> > > > > makarasana is perfect for you. Only full relax.

> > > > > Best in any cases Maha mantra: He Prabho Praseed Aum - O God Bless

> > (My)

> > > > Soul

> > > > > - without blessing we can't do nothing. Writing is better then

> > > > repeating. 2

> > > > > x 108 repeat or 1008 times writes.

> > > > > My God Bless You

> > > > > Mahapratibhawan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 10/19/05, anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Aum.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > sideways,

> > > > L-R,

> > > > > > sometimes

> > > > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much energy

> > > > within

> > > > > > and i am

> > > > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Need immd help..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > anil

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > > > > Lord shiva</gads?

> > > > t=ms&k=Lord+shiva&w1=Lord+shiva&c=1&s=16&.

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> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > Shiva within me BOWS to yours.

> >

> > I have realized that saying in Bhagwat Gita when Lord Krishna says that i

> > remain in all

> > and so remaining i worhship myself..

> >

> > I must have been very very lucky to have got blessing from all members of

> > this group

> > ..

> >

> > Thanks a lot..

> >

> > i m feeling OK now..

> >

> > regards

> > anil

> > , "prasanna kumar"

> > <prasannakumar21@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear esteem members

> > > I wish to help Mr anilji let us all together pray from him,so that i

> > > can be back to normal.Today i have pray for him ,i hope other also help

> > > him in this regard.

> > > with warm Regards

> > > Prasanna

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:58:19 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > Thank you..

> >

> > By grace of GOD..one seller from Nepal has offered me a Rudraksha Mala

> > 3-14 Mukhi

> > + GS + Ganaesha...and he wrote that he himself does not know why he is

> > offering so

> > huge discount..also he will get the mala energized at Pashupatinath

> > Temple..i have

> > visited that temple 18 years back..

> >

> > Saab Gorakh ki maya aur Marji hai..

> >

> > you are right, i need rest..as i am writing this email.. my body is still

> > shaking ..to realize

> > oneself as GOD..one gets so much of the GODDISH energy.. that now i

> > know..it is

> > very difficult for an ordinary person like me to even face it..

> >

> > this morning i meditated as Shiva..it is all by HIS grace..he has chosen

> > me to express

> > myself well.. this is the purpose of my life in this re-incarnation and

> > this forum has

> > helped me a lot..to share my feelings..

> >

> > Thanks to moderators for giving me an invitation to join this group..

> >

> > Aum

> >

> > anil

> > , Divakara Tanjore

<div_tan@y

> > ...

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > This excess energy will generate a lot of heat in your

> > > body, keep drinking a lot of water and fluids, just

> > > relax and do things which you like for a few days,

> > > dont exert your self doing a lot of mantra chanting,

> > > as long as you have compassion and love in you heart

> > > Lord shiva will always love you, you need plenty of

> > > rest.

> > >

> > > Once your body adjusts to this energy you will be a

> > > changed person spiritually, you can do more of Lord

> > > Shiva's work, for now just relax and let the energy

> > > ground itself.

> > >

> > > Enjoy your self and by joyous.

> > > Om namah shivaya,

> > > Regds,

> > > Divakar.

> > >

> > > --- prasanna kumar <prasannakumar21@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear esteem members

> > > > I wish to help Mr anilji let us all together pray

> > > > from him,so that i

> > > > can be back to normal.Today i have pray for him ,i

> > > > hope other also help

> > > > him in this regard.

> > > > with warm Regards

> > > > Prasanna

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> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Mercury Shivalingam

> >

> >

> > Dear Bro's and Sister's,

> >

> >

> >

> > An Article that attracts me at Rudra Centre.

> >

> > www.rudraksha-ratna.com <http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com>

> >

> >

> >

> > He who worships Mercury Shivalingam devotedly, whether one is male or

> > female, Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra gets full worldly pleasures, and

> > at last attains supreme destination (salvation). During life-span they get

> > glory, honour, high office, name and fame, sons, grandsons and perfection in

> > learning. At last they get salvation. The virtue got by seeing the Twelve

> > Jyotirlingas is received only by looking at the Mercury Shivalinga. The

> > chance to look at it is possible only when the worshipper's virtues of

> > previous births come to light. By worshipping the Mercury Shivalingas, the

> > worshipper gets the fruits which are attained only by worshipping

> > Shivalingas which are situated in three Lokas (cosmic worlds).

> >

> >

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> > Complete with 8 Sanskaars(8 stage of Purifications done as per Parad

> > Sanmhita) and removal of Saptakanchuki(100 % medicated and hygienic); the

> > Siddha Parad(Mercury mouth closed with Aghor Vidhya) is formed to make

> > Murthi-Badhha/Agnibadha(sustain the heat) Shiva lingam.

> >

> > Prepared by Ayurvedic methods as written in ancient scriptures. Made out

> > of Siddh Parad/Mercury and rare herbs. The Shivling contains no other metal

> > except Mercury. It can be made to powder by crushing and as well can be

> > turned in to the Pure Mercury form by heating to the very high temperature

> > comply with the Parad Sanmhita. The Extract from this Shivling gives 24 Ras

> > and 5 Tatva which removes all diseases in the body. To have a Shiva lingam

> > made from Parad/Mercury, one must be blessed through good karmic deeds of

> > past lives.

> >

> >

> >

> > Pandit Shree Deenanathji mades it for Rudra centre.

> >

> >

> >

> > Brief about Panditji Shree Deenanathji

> >

> >

> > Born in Aug 1938 in a small village named Nadbai, in the district of

> > Bharatpur (Rajasthan), Pundit Shree Dinanathji was highly inclined to learn

> > the secrets of Ayurveda. To fulfill his keen desire to learn the science of

> > Ayurveda especially the Parad/Mercury, he joined the ashram of Saint Shree

> > Nirmalandji Chaitanya Brahmachai in 1971 to study mercury science. His

> > ashram was in southern corner of Narmada river.

> >

> > Later he did his research and development on mercury at many holy places

> > of India namely Omkareshwar, Amarkantak, Haridwar, Hrishikesh, Pushkar,

> > Badrinath, Gangotri and Jamnotri. 40 years ago he opened a Ayurvedic medical

> > research centre in Dosa district near Jaipur. Now he is in Jaipur since last

> > 20 years running a medical centre which provides facilities for treatment of

> > asthma, blood pressure, liver, diabetes, skin, gastritis, rheumatism,

> > arthritis, thyroid related problems.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours

> >

> > George Pillai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

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> > Message: 10

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:41:37 +0800 (CST)

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Body Shaking

> >

> > Dear Anil ji,

> >

> > Your body have received abundant cosmic energy. Body shake is very normal

> > at this situation. The cosmic energy will pass thru 72000 nadi's to activate

> > your chakras. After the third eye opening get yourself ready to go on a

> > Astral journey. It will be a wonderful experience (soul) seeing your own

> > body.

> >

> > Lord Subramaniam told Saint Arunagirinathar to

> >

> > Just sit quietly, close your eye, don't think anything or chant any

> > mantra's.

> > Just Relax,relax,relax.

> >

> > You will become a "Miraculous Creator"

> >

> > Yours

> > George Pillai

> >

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> >

> > Meet your soulmate!

> > Asia presents Meetic - where millions of singles gather

> >

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> > Message: 11

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:15:55 +0800 (CST)

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Jokes

> >

> >

> > This story was sent by a Yogi from Switzerland who founded the Geneva

> > Sivananda Yoga Center.

> >

> > The Swiss, as we all know, tend to be placid people. Some go as far as

> > claiming that we are occasionnally somewhat slow.

> >

> >

> > Three Swiss monks of the benedictine order were meditating high in the

> > Alps. Suddenly, a beautiful milk cow walked by.

> >

> >

> > The first monk said : "HHHMMM, this is Fritz's cow, I tell you".

> > Half an hour later, the second monk said : " HHHMMM, really that was

> > Kurt's cow. I'm quite sure".

> >

> >

> > An other half hour later, the third Swiss monk stood up and said "I'm

> > going away, I can't stand you guys having an argument around me when I'm

> > trying to meditate"....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours

> >

> > George Pillai

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

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> > Message: 12

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:05:01 +0800 (CST)

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Signals

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small, uninhabited

> > island.

> >

> > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he scanned the

> > horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually

> > managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him from the

> > elements, and to store his few possessions.

> >

> > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to find his

> > little hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky.

> >

> > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was stunned with grief and

> > anger.

> >

> > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> >

> > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the sound of a ship that

> > was approaching the island. It had come to rescue him.

> >

> > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his rescuers.

> >

> > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> >

> > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going bad. But we shouldn't

> > lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the midst of pain

> > and suffering.

> >

> > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground, it just may

> > be a smoke signal that summons the grace of God.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours

> >

> > George Pillai

> >

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> > Message: 13

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:32:57 -0000

> > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

> > seeking your advice

> >

> > Dear members

> > can some one guide me on Silver-Parad Shiv Ling.Its benifits and how to

> > get and puja procedures

> > lakshmi

> >

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> > Message: 14

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:14:49 -0000

> > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The Three and t...

> >

> > I replied to this once and for some strange reason my reply was not

> > posted; so I reply here again.....

> > , "saidevo"

> > <saidevo> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear JCsharanananda Ji,

> > >

> > > 1. In my limited familiarity, I have not read anywhere in

> > > Theosophical literature that Theosophy favours fair-skinned

> > > and condemns dark-skinned. ...

> > > 2. I think Theosophy has nothing to do with the Aryan Invasion

> > > or Aryan Supremacy Theory that the British and Nazis populated.

> > > The AIT has lately been discounted by the BBC as its Website

> > > says. If you think otherwise, please indicate a source that

> > > says that Theosophy favours the 'Aryans', the fair-skinned.

> >

> > > 3. However, it should be admitted that Theosophy favours

> > > Buddhism more than Hinduism, which may be because of the rituals

> > > in our religion. ....

> > > 4. My personal impression is that as Theosophy gains more and

> > > more acceptance in the New Age, there is a danger that the

> > > modern theosophists might present the timeless concepts of

> > > Vedatanta as those originated in the West. ........

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > saidevo

> >

> > you can find much on the nazis and their interest in theosophy.

> > anyone who has an even limited knowledge of this sees that the nazis

> > used the swastika. their arayan theories were inspired by theosophy

> > and varna. on a side note the nazis went to tibet on an expedition

> > to measure the cranial structures of the tibetans to see if they were

> > partially arayan.

> > amyone with a search engine could type in "nazi theosophy" and come

> > to several references. I found it out from history text books in

> > school.

> > for those who are unable to look at their search engines or history

> > books....here are a few reference materials that might provoke

> > further study.....

> >

> > While on the surface the members of the third Reich looked like they

> > had mostly political aims, they actually harbored many extreme and

> > dangerous "religious" and mythological views, which in time they

> > hoped to bring to the forefront of Germany. Hitler and his followers

> > were fascinated by occultism and psychical research. One such

> > fascination was with the teachings of a Mme Blavatsky, around the

> > late 1800s early 1900s in a school of thought now called Theosophy

> > Theosophy was a conglomeration of teachings including occultism,

> > research into ghosts and paranormal phenomena, and an extensive

> > philosophical/religious base often based upon mythology, the gnostic

> > new testament, a sort of 'Atlantean cult" and "Alexandrian"

> > teachings.1

> >

> > While the term can be applied generically to a group of philosophies:

> >

> >

> > "...Gr: knowledge of things divine, fr. ? wise in the things of God;

> > God + wise: cf. F. th['e]osophie.] Any system of philosophy or

> > mysticism which proposes to attain intercourse with God and superior

> > spirits, and consequent superhuman knowledge, by physical processes,

> > as by the theurgic operations of some ancient Platonists, or by the

> > chemical processes of the German fire philosophers; also, a direct,

> > as distinguished from a revealed, knowledge of God, supposed to be

> > attained by extraordinary illumination; especially, a direct insight

> > into the processes of the divine mind, and the interior relations of

> > the divine nature.(Webster 1913) or

> > more recently: Medieval Latin theosophia, from Late Greek, from Greek

> > the- + sophia wisdom -- more at -SOPHY 1 : teaching about God and the

> > world based on mystical insight 2 often capitalized : the teachings

> > of a modern movement originating in the U.S. in 1875 and following

> > chiefly Buddhist and Brahmanic theories especially of pantheistic

> > evolution and reincarnation (Miriam Webster online)

> >

> >

> > , the movement and current rendering of Theosophy is primarily

> > identified with the works of Blavatsky and cohorts around the turn of

> > the century.

> > Part and parcel to the philosophy was the belief that one day, the

> > race of superior human beings who inhabited the semi-mythical Lost

> > City of Atlantis would reappear, through the superior Aryan peoples.

> > They also argued that there have been successions of 'root races" and

> > that we are in the 5th root of 7. When the 7th arrives, it will be

> > equated with power and perfection. A beginning, inferior race which

> > they equated with the Hebrews of History found in the Bible would be

> > utter replaced, and necessarily for the more advanced to take hold.

> > Blavatsky and others believed that as the human race evolved,

> > the 'superior' race would find its place by supplanting this earlier

> > root race. A Utopia in Theosophy would only come about eventually as

> > an evolved, genetically superior persons descended from the

> > Atlanteans would take hold, displacing a people they identified as

> > the Jews and other inferior races. This new superior race was aligned

> > with and akin to Hitler's concept of the "Master Race". Hitler,

> > Himmler and other Inner Circle members ascribed to these

> > philosophies, although they kept them secret from the general German

> > public earlier in the war. The Eugenicists of the time, funded and

> > endorsed by the Third Reich, active both in Europe and in America

> > thought to apply their pseudo-science to the controlled advent of

> > this end.

> >

> > Among Blavatsky's early circle of followers who met for study and

> > seances, were the author Arthur Conan Doyle, and Westcott & Hort, the

> > re-translators of the Bible version Revised Standard 2. Blavatsky's

> > influence was widely felt, not only in certain philosophies adhered

> > to by the Third Reich, but in the development of what is now referred

> > to as "New Age" philosophies. Westcott and Hort and others of her

> > followers helped found a society to study ghosts,3 which later became

> > the Society for Psychical Research, which is still extant, and

> > studies many instances of paranormal phenomena.

> >

> > Warning Signs of Root Race Theory

> > I. Frequent mention of Atlantis,the descendants of Atlantis, or the

> > recently discovered "ruins of Atlantis" (not proven to be from

> > Atlantis)note

> > II. Notions of Racial Superiority, or one race having characteristics

> > nearing perfection.

> >

> > III. A Replacement Race Ideas expressed about the 'replacement' of a

> > final race over earlier more primitive races.

> >

> > IV.Final Race War: A more estoteric mention of a philsophy held by

> > Himmler called 'Volkeschaos" or "the peoples/nations Chaos" referring

> > to an end time final war (like Armaggedon, but not the same) in which

> > all races or ethnic groups hold a final bloody battle, resulting in

> > Victory for a Master Race.

> >

> > V. Talk of Philosophy and Religion as a mix, using the

> > term "Theosophy" as a religious term instead of directly referring to

> > it as a separate belief system.

> >

> > Root Race theory is not a 'religious group" but a quasi-doctrine,

> > which may be adapted to many belief systems. The two main places it

> > is found are in Theosophy, where it forms the foundation for the

> > overall view of the course of mankind, and in White Aryanism or

> > Nazism, where it is used as motivation for racial cleansing or

> > purifying. The belief that a Master Race must emerge replacing lesser

> > races, motivated the Nazis to Endlosung or the "Final Solution" of

> > the 'Jewish Problem' which translated into the mass extermination of

> > the Jews of Europe.

> >

> > Blavatsky's Polarian Race (The First Root Race)

> > Blavatsky's account of evolution, like those of her successors, is

> > anthropocentric, pertaining to the evolution of man, not of the

> > Earth. But it is an evolution extended out through cycles of cosmic

> > evolution, into the cosmos, so it is not just an anthropology, but a

> > cosmology as well. She speaks of human evolution in terms of a

> > number of Root-Races, each of which existed for a while before being

> > replaced by the next. The early Root-Races were not even physical at

> > all, but vast, amorphous, etheric beings.

> >

> > "The First Root-Race, i.e. the first "men" on earth (irrespective of

> > form) were the progeny of the "celestial men"...in Indian philosophy

> > the "Lunar Ancestors" or the Pitris, of which there are seven classes

> > or Hierarchies" [p.74]

> > Unlike Judeo-Christianity, in Blavatsky's cosmology, "man" is the

> > creation of higher spiritual hierarchies, but not of "God". They are

> > described as the astral Shadows of the Progenitors [p.181, 188], "so

> > ethereal and so little human in constitution they could not be

> > affected by any elements - flood or fire" [p.181].

> >

> > Just as the Polarians are themselves non-physical, so was

> > the "continent" upon which they dwelled. It is referred to as

> > the "Imperishable Sacred Land", which did not "share the fate of the

> > other continents" [p.152] (i.e. to be destroyed at the end of the

> > era).

> >

> > The Polarians reproduced through fission, as the amoeba does today

> > [p.189]. They "were devoid of all understanding (mind, intelligence,

> > and will)." [p.188]. They were "ethereal, a-sexual, and even

> > devoid...of desire" [p.176]. The individuals of this Race did not

> > actually die. Instead, they "melted gradually away, becoming

> > absorbed in the bodies of their own "sweat-born" progeny (the Second

> > Race), more solid than their own." [p.179].

> >

> > Blavatsky's thesis that our distant progenitors were gigantic etheric

> > amoebas may seem incredible at first, but support comes from a rather

> > unexpected quarter: a UFO researcher, Trevor James Constable, who

> > photographed unusual UFO phenomena using infra-red film in an

> > otherwise ordinary camera.

> >

> > Blavatsky's Polarian Root Race, and even the term "Polarian", was

> > adopted with little modification by Rudolph Steiner

> >

> > and from wikipedia a note....

> >

> > Overview

> > Nazi mysticism is a volkish initiation with roots in the Thule

> > society and theosophy, as well as the racist ideas of Arthur de

> > Gobineau. Guido von List and Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels were important

> > figures ........

> >

> > .....Research and expeditions

> > A great deal of time and resources were spent on researching or

> > creating a popularly accepted "historical", "cultural"

> > and "scientific" background so the ideas about a "superior" Aryan

> > race could prosper in the German society of the time. Mystical

> > organizations such as the Thule Society, Schwarze Sonne, Vrill

> > Society and others were created, usually connected with elite SS

> > corps, and adopting specific rituals, initiations and beliefs.

> >

> > Expeditions in Tibet, Nepal, Greece, the Arctic, and Neuschwabenland

> > in Antarctica were organized in the search for the mythical "Aryan"

> > nation of Hyperborea, whose capital, Ultima Thule was supposedly

> > built by the extraterrestrial ancestors of the "Aryan races" who came

> > from the star Aldebaran, according to some of the "Aryan" theories.

> >

> > A German expedition to Tibet was organized in order to search for the

> > origins of the Aryan race. To this end, the expedition leader, Ernst

> > Schäfer, had his anthropologist Bruno Beger make face masks and skull

> > and nose measurements.

> >

> > Similar expeditions were organized in the pursuit of semi-mythical

> > objects believed to bring power or granting special powers to their

> > owner, such as the Holy Grail and the Spear of Destiny.

> >

> > again, anyone with access to a history book, library or search engine

> > can easy read very much on this topic, its not some dusty secret

> > hidden away.

> >

> > now as to your new age idea and support of theosophy, thats a matter

> > of opinion and personal conscience. it pains me though that you

> > would be so quick to forgive a movement that was championed by adolph

> > hitler and other racists and new agers. It pains me because we are

> > brothers under mahadev. please read more and keep open mind before

> > defending these new age movements. kali yuga has long long long time

> > left. the vaishnavas and shaivites of traditional lineages are in

> > agreement on this. and traditional buddhists believe that coming of

> > maitreya is a long long time away.

> > if one wants to read alot, that is those who have lots of time on

> > their hands they can read blavatsky herself here.....The Secret

> > Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky

> >

> > here is a little more..... The Secret History

> >

> > The Secret History's most important figures are perhaps self-

> > proclaimed Russian mystic Madame Helena Blavatsky and her American

> > husband Colonel Henry Olcott. The result of their collaboration would

> > thrust the world into the abyss and cost the lives of millions.

> >

> > Their Theosophy ideology became popular amongst the middle classes in

> > Germany at the end of the 1800's, mostly because of its introduction

> > to Eastern religious and mystical ideas. Blavatsky claimed to have

> > been party to revelations from Hidden Masters called the "Great White

> > Brotherhood" who resided somewhere in the Himalayas. But Blavatsky

> > later admitted in letters to her sister that this was a codename for

> > the Rosicrucian hierarchy who funded her. It is clear her work is

> > influenced, if not sourced, in the work of Masonic demagogue General

> > Albert Pike - the American South's Sovereign Grand Commander of the

> > Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry,

> > Civil War war criminal, and leading member of the Ku Klux Klan - who

> > revealed Rosicrucian/Masonic doctrine and its "Aryan heritage" in his

> > unpublished pamphlet Morals & Dogma (1871) that was distributed to

> > Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret (32nd degree) Scottish Rite

> > initiates.

> >

> > Albert Pike is regarded as bringing "order out of chaos" by rewriting

> > the ancient rites of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, formerly devised by

> > groups in France including the Council of the Emperors of the East

> > and West (now known as the European Council of Princes) and the Royal

> > Stewart's Chapter of Clermont, based at the College of the Jesuits,

> > Paris in 1761. Pike modernized these rituals for the modern American

> > leader, and explained their Aryan source and meaning in Morals &

> > Dogma and numerous other works. At this time Pike was head of the

> > Supreme Council of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, based in Charleston,

> > South Carolina, and following the Civil War and dropped charges of

> > treason against Pike, the Supreme Council moved to Washington DC.

> >

> > Blavatsky's breakthrough book The Secret Doctrine (1888) was an

> > attempt to popularize the racist concepts of Rosicrucian belief at a

> > time of great change and turmoil. America was recovering from the

> > Civil War, and the abolition of Slavery was forcing a redefinition of

> > the West's perception of Race. The radical decision to reveal the

> > beliefs of the power elite came at a time when desperate measures

> > seemed necessary. The Priory of Sion within the Royal Houses of

> > Europe and various occult circles were attempting to create a

> > movement with their Synarchy ideology, a politicized form of

> > Rosicrucian dogma. Synarchy advocated government by secret society -

> > an elite of enlightened initiates who rule from behind the scenes.

> > This found expression through the writings of Joseph Saint-Yves

> > d'Alveydre, which called for the infiltration of "the three key

> > pillars of society... political and social institutions, economic

> > institutions, and religious institutions". The infamous Protocols of

> > the Learned Elders of Sion (commonly known by its Old English

> > variant "Zion") are clearly some form of manifesto for the

> > implementation of Synarchy's aims, and are signed by

> > the "representatives of Sion of the 33rd degree". Not surprisingly,

> > the content of the Protocols have much similarity to Albert Pike's

> > central work Morals and Dogma. Synarchy was opposed to ideas of

> > democracy and social equality, as only the Synarchists were

> > the "natural leaders".

> >

> > As the masses of Europe were rising up rebelliously against their

> > feudal overlords, the Holy Roman Empire was in disarray. The First

> > Reich, founded in 800 by the 'Emperor of the West' Charlemagne, had

> > been smashed by Napoleon following the French Revolution. With

> > Napoleon's eventual defeat, the Holy Roman Empire reformed in a

> > weakened and splintered state. Prussia/Germany took the former

> > Gnostic Cathar regions of Lorraine and Alsace back from revolutionary

> > France, and established the Second Empire under Kaiser Wilhelm I. He

> > was allied with the Austrian-Hungarian-Croatian Empire, which was

> > still under the control of the Grail bloodline House of Habsburg, who

> > had been ruling for the previous 600 years. Power was still very

> > much in the hands of the Princes of Europe and the Vatican, who found

> > unity within their occult "Secret Church" that has historically

> > always existed behind the "Visible Church".

> >

> > Theosophy was born in 1875, a key time of political upheavals

> > throughout Europe, as Russia was moving towards revolution, following

> > the examples set by America and France. The Theosophy movement was

> > an attempt to occultize the newly emerging industrial and merchant

> > class and provide a spiritual antidote to Marxism straight from the

> > Rosicrucian philosophy that previously had been for hand-picked

> > initiates only. The Grail aristocratic families of the Holy Roman

> > Empire were planning to reunify the old territories and needed the

> > control and support of the managing classes. It is no coincidence

> > that their plan to "infiltrate Freemasonry and seize absolute control

> > of the Western World's social, political and economic institutions"

> > as outlined in the Protocols of Sion appeared simultaneously with the

> > Synarchy ideology and the creation of Madame Blavatsky's Theosophy

> > movement. As the Protocols stress "Our philosophers will discuss all

> > the shortcomings of the various beliefs of the manipulated. But no-

> > one will ever bring under discussion our faith from its true point of

> > view since this will be fully learned by none save ours who will

> > never dare betray its secrets".

> >

> > At the turn of the 20th century this agenda was again outlined in the

> > Priory of Sion's Hieron du Val D'Or that described "a theocracy

> > wherein nations will be no more than provinces, their leaders but

> > proconsuls in the service of a world occult government consisting of

> > an elite. This regime of the Great King will be a double hegemony of

> > the Papacy and the Empire, of the Vatican and of the Habsburgs".

> > This ambitious scheme was thwarted with the assassination of the

> > Habsburg heir Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria in 1914, an event

> > that ignited the First World War.

> >

> > Theosophy's teachings about enlightened mystics guiding human

> > evolution towards the creation of a higher super-race, and pseudo-

> > theories about the ancient Aryan civilization of Atlantis, promoted

> > dangerous racial theories that formed the core of Austrian and German

> > anti-Semitism.

> >

> > From an aristocratic background, Helena Blavatsky, the widow of

> > Russian Army General Count Blavatsky, designed elaborate genetic

> > family trees that clearly illustrated the superiority of the Aryan

> > people over the other races of the world. These strange beliefs were

> > heralded by middle class occultists throughout Germany and Austria-

> > Hungary and merged with their extreme right-wing nationalist

> > politics. Hence, complete reunification of the Holy Roman Empire,

> > effectively abolished by Napoleon in 1806, became a priority not only

> > of the ruling aristocracies, but also of the merchant middle classes.

> >

> > The ensuing horrors of the First World War was an attempt to take

> > France from the democratic Republicans by a vengeful aristocracy who

> > had seen their brethren murdered by the French revolution. The new

> > middle-class occultists such as Guido von List and his Armanen Order,

> > Baron von Sebottendorf and his Thule Society, and Lanz von Liebenfels

> > and the Order of the New Templars refered to the First World War as a

> > Holy War, revealing the quasi-religious and philosophical motives of

> > their Hidden Masters. It has been documented that Nazi party leaders

> > Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Rudolph Hess and Hermann Goering were

> > all members of these occult secret societies. The Protocols of the

> > Learned Elders of Sion and the Hieron du Val d'Or are proof that a

> > conspiracy of epic proportions was at play behind the broader

> > political scene.

> >

> > The end of the First World War resulted in Kaiser Wilhelm I being

> > banished to Belgium and the removal of the Habsburgs from the throne

> > of the Second Empire--the global "hegemony of Great King and Pope"

> > was delayed. The Habsburg's reluctant abdication was upon the

> > insistence of the Allied nations and their Treaty of St. Germaine.

> > Incidentally, the Order of St. Germaine is the French Royal Stewart

> > equivalent of the Habsburg's Order of Sion (each laying claim to

> > genetic superiority and Kingship of Jerusalem) - such is the secret

> > subtext of European war and politics. The magickally relevant

> > regions of Alsace and Lorraine were promptly returned to the Republic

> > of France through the Treaty of Versailles, which not so much

> > infuriated a young Hitler, as his aristocratic Hidden Masters behind

> > the curtain. While their agenda had brutally backfired, the Great

> > White Brotherhood were by no means beaten, and a simple reversal of

> > the truth (a common propaganda technique) would lead them ever closer

> > to their goal, and introduce the world to perhaps their greatest spin

> > doctor.

> >

> > In his popular book Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler conveniently used the

> > Protocols of the Elders of Sion to deceptively "prove" that a global

> > conspiracy was afoot - but led by the League of Jewish Rabbis. This

> > stirred massive anti-Semitism that ultimately justified the Holocaust

> > to the German people. Earlier in 1919, the newly formed Thule

> > Society had distributed copies of the controversial Protocols to

> > troops of the White Russian army loyal to the Czar, in an attempt to

> > blame the Jews for the ensuing Revolution. This led to the massacre

> > of 60,000 Jews over two years, and was perhaps the beginning of the

> > Jewish Holocaust. The Rosicrucian Protocols document is still used

> > by neo-Nazi groups throughout the world to stir anti-Semitism and

> > hate. Even today Rebublican David Duke promotes these same anti-

> > Semitic theories on his popular website and continues to blame the

> > Russian Revolution on the Jewish people, regardless of the historical

> > oppression of the Russian people that motivated this conflict. The

> > fact that Jerusalem's Mount Sion/Zion is prophesied (according to St.

> > John's Revelation) as the place of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ

> > is conveniently ignored by these right-wing groups. As is the fact

> > that the premier secret organization dedicated to this Second Coming,

> > albeit through a complex and conflicted view of genetic bloodlines

> > and reactionary socio-political models, is the Priory of Sion.

> >

> > Although thought by many academics to be a creation of Russian Czar

> > Nicholas II's secret police, to those aware of occult references the

> > Protocols of Sion clearly show the hand of the Grail/Dragon

> > sovereignty. It is likely the Czarists altered the texts to include

> > traditional Jewish terminology that otherwise has no place in what is

> > obviously a Rosicrucian agenda with Jesuit undertones.

> >

> > The Yiddish word "Goyim" (meaning Gentile) has been inserted in as

> > many places as possible, even in places grammatically inappropriate.

> > Written in a tone of lofty superiority, echoed in the contemporary

> > writings of Nicholas De Vere, the masses are refered to throughout

> > as "the Mob", "bloodthirsty beasts", "alcoholized animals"

> > and "cattle". Passages such as "From the premier-dictators of the

> > day the peoples suffer greatly and bear such abuses, as for the least

> > of them they would have beheaded twenty kings... unification must be

> > achieved only under our Sovereign rule", clearly reveal an embittered

> > post-French Revolution power elite planning to restore the "King of

> > the blood of Sion whom we are preparing for the World".

> >

> > Also overlooked in the analysis of the Protocols is their similarity

> > to the little heard of "Secret Instructions of the Society of Jesus",

> > which outline a goal of bringing in a golden age or millenium with

> > the entire world under the authority of the Pope to enable the Second

> > Coming of Jesus Christ. Indeed, the Jesuits' Secret Instructions

> > could be considered a prototype of the Protocols of Sion with its

> > rhetoric of subterfuge such as "We must inculcate this doctrine with

> > Kings and Princes, that the Catholic faith cannot exist in the

> > present state, without politics; but that in this, it is necessary to

> > proceed with much certainty. Of this mode, we must share the

> > affection of the great, and be admitted to the most secret

> > councils."

> >

> > "We must be careful to change our politics, conforming to the times,

> > and excite the Princes, friends of ours to mutually make terrible

> > wars that everywhere the mediation of the Society will be implored;

> > that we may be employed in the public reconciliation... the Society

> > afterwards can count on the favor and authority of the Princes,

> > procuring that those who do not love us shall fear us."

> >

> > Discovered towards the end of the Holy Roman Empire's Thirty Year War

> > with itself that resulted in France being given part of Alsace and

> > Lorraine (only to be later reclaimed by the Second and Third Empires)

> > and cities ruined and millions dead, the Jesuits' Secret Instructions

> > clearly are an inspirational source for the Protocols of Sion, which

> > would be written 200 years later following the formation of Ancient &

> > Accepted Scottish Rite Freemasonry. With passages such as "If the

> > Pope should return as temporal prince of all the properties; for as

> > much as it is very necessary to extend little by little, with much

> > secrecy and skill, the temporalities of the Society; and not having

> > any doubt that the world will enter the Golden Age" there can be no

> > doubt that The Protocols of the Elders of Sion are the work of the

> > Jesuits, the European Council of Princes, and their Rosicrucian

> > allies within 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasonry. As outlined in

> > the final Protocol "Confirming the roots of King David and the

> > training of the King", the Grail/Christ bloodline conspirators insist

> > that "sensuality worse than all else disorganizes the capacities of

> > the mind and clearness of views" and should not be a quality of their

> > King - thus denying any instinctive connection to his humanity in

> > true Jesuit and Rosicrucian style. There is little in Judaism about

> > the repressing of the senses in order to achieve any kind of kinghood.

> >

> > Following the widespread distribution of the Protocols by the Thule

> > Society and Hitler's protege Alfred Rosenberg, it was the

> > added "Jewish" elements that were seized upon by Hitler's Mein Kampf

> > and Henry Ford's The International Jew. Conveniently both of these

> > fervantly anti-Semitic works chose to ignore the Rosicrucian

> > references of the Protocols, and the fact that the "Return of the

> > King" agenda is not traditionally Jewish or a historical goal of

> > Jewish Zionism, but the secret goal of the Catholic/Rosicrucian/Grail

> > elites. Perhaps the popularization of the altered Protocols was an

> > attempt at damage control, and a pointing of the finger away from the

> > true authors, as their actual neo-feudalistic agenda was becoming

> > known by political and occult scholars. Or something even more

> > nefarious: "It is hardly credible that the baddies would reveal their

> > fell purposes so blatantly", commented Foucault's Pendulum author

> > Umberto Eco on the current recycling of the Protocols within popular

> > culture and the disturbing rise of "crude forms of racism of the neo-

> > Celtic kind" -- and yet the use of the Protocols was the primary

> > justification for the Holocaust and the attempted annihilation of the

> > Jews, who are regarded as the historical "perfidious Enemy" of both

> > Jesuit and Rosicrucian elites.

> >

> > Hitler's Third Empire would go one step further than Theosophy,

> > taking Rosicrucian and Occult theories directly to the working class

> > people of Germany, and openly running the country according to their

> > principles. Their use of Rosicrucian symbolism, the Swastika, the

> > Nuremberg rallies/rituals, and inner occult orders within

> > Himmler's "SS", who like the Knights of Malta and Dragon Court

> > insisted upon a long heritage of pure Aryan blood before initiation,

> > clearly illustrates how linked National Socialism was with the secret

> > agenda and beliefs of the power elite. It is clear the Nazi movement

> > was a new approach to feudalism, by the same aristocratic ruling

> > powers. Realizing that some sense of revolution must be fulfilled in

> > the ordinary working classes, Nazism gave the impression of

> > revolution, but was in fact the Restoration of the feudal overlords

> > of the Holy Roman Empire, and the beginning of the National Socialist

> > deception.

> >

> > Hitler's personal aide escaped his clutches and fled to Britain. In

> > 1939 he wrote an eye witness account of the madness of the Third

> > Reich: "What will the social order of the future be like? Comrade, I

> > will tell you. There will be a class of overlords, after them the

> > rank and file of the party members in hierarchical order, and then

> > the great mass of anonymous followers, servants and workers in

> > perpetuity, and beneath them again all the conquered foreign races,

> > the modern slaves. And over and above all these will reign a new and

> > exalted nobility of whom I cannot speak. But of all these plans the

> > militant members will know nothing. The new man is living amongst us

> > now! He is here. Isn't that enough for you? I will tell you a

> > secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was

> > afraid of him" - Adolf Hitler quoted from "Hitler Speaks" by Hermann

> > Rauschning.

> >

> > Hitler could not have expressed the aims of the Protocols of the

> > Elders of Sion or the Hieron du Val d'Or more eloquently. Today the

> > agenda of the power elite continues using its network of Occult and

> > political structures - from the unaccountable Bilderberg Group to the

> > elite of the Dragon Court, from the undemocratic Trilateral

> > Commission to the transnational Knights of Malta. Through their

> > influence and control the Synarchists continue to stay on top of the

> > power pyramid, regardless of how much global suffering and misery is

> > caused, and maintain the anti-democratic structures of a hidden

> > feudalist system. By his own admission, the new head of the European

> > Council of Princes HRH Prince Michael Stewart recently replaced HSH

> > Prince Otto von Habsburg of Austria as chief representative of the

> > thirty three Royal Houses of Europe. These are the thirty three Holy

> > Grail bloodline royal families who bizarrely claim descent from Jesus

> > Christ (who they believe was a Dragon high priest/king), and their

> > historical goal remains the same. But who exactly are their allies?

> >

> > Has the Western world finally and completely internalized the values

> > of the Great White Brotherhood?

> >

> > Again these same secret societies are revealing the inner secrets of

> > their inverted belief system, in the hope of converting new followers

> > in key positions of influence. Their philosophers continue to seduce

> > the highest levels of the military, politics, and business, and reach

> > out to the public through books, lectures, and the internet. While

> > the economic and political power of 21st Century Synarchy spin

> > doctors such as Sir Laurence Gardner and Prince Nicholas de Vere is

> > narrow, their esteemed position and knowledge within occult circles

> > will almost certainly reach many with genuine clout: namely high

> > level Freemasons and Rosicrucians within the corporate-military-

> > industrial complex. While most of the world naively believes

> > democracy has truly replaced feudalism, the concentration of wealth

> > in the hands of a few, with majority ownership of stocks, bonds and

> > real estate, and even the 2000 American Presidential elections,

> > proves the contrary. The richest 254 people in the world own more

> > wealth than 47% of the global population.

> >

> > Right-wing conspiracy theorists mistakenly believe the goal of the

> > secret societies is a One World Utopia, or Global Socialist State,

> > but this couldn't be further from the truth. Synarchy's "Global

> > Village" will be ruled by the "Dark Lords from their Castles of

> > Darkness"; reigning supreme, uncontested, and as the past has shown,

> > plotting to starve the poor to feed the rich, while a divided middle-

> > class competes for the scraps--a historical socio-political model

> > that is the norm in most developing countries. Undemocratic and

> > inaccessible political and economic organizations - whether ultra-

> > conservative "think-tanks" or globalization commissions - ultimately

> > harness the methodology of fascism, and are the enemies of a truly

> > democratic and open World Unity or Global Village.

> >

> > The biblical struggle against the anti-Christ is not some future

> > event - it is History, past and present, and symbolic of the struggle

> > between anti-hero and hero, darkness and light, feudalism and

> > democracy.

> >

> > The likely consequences of the Occult Conspiracy suggest that the

> > economic, political, and social decision making of individuals allied

> > with the aims of the European aristocatic secret society network,

> > whether in the Vatican, the British Crown, the American Government,

> > European politics, transnational Corporations, or the vast

> > bureaucracy of Nato's military machine, will consciously or

> > unconsciously reflect their initiation, indoctrination, and

> > allegiance to the Aryan/Rosicrucian white supremacist perception of

> > the world.

> >

> > Having internalized their Rulers of the Universe values, mega-

> > corporations and conglomerates backed by the WTO and other spurious

> > organizations, are attempting to hold the world to ransom by

> > copyright patenting essential items for basic human survival, such as

> > human DNA, genetically modified rice and wheat that is forced upon

> > Third World farmers, and life-saving AIDS drugs (most of which were

> > developed by public-funded universities). While the poorest

> > countries face trade sanctions for trying to stay alive, more

> > elaborate methods of "bio-piracy" are being devised to more

> > effectively steal the natural resources of our world. As drug

> > companies reach yearly profits of over $1.3 billion each, the power

> > elite's starve the poor to feed the rich methodology continues into

> > the 21st Century. Even the CIA admits in its recent Global 2015

> > report that the gap between rich and poor will grow greater with the

> > effects of globalization. As South Africa's Nelson Mandela recently

> > asked "Is there a direct link between Africa's poverty, and the

> > Western world's wealth?" According to Rosicrucian logic, this

> > inequality is not only necessary, but vital.

> >

> > The Spider's Web of cause and effect, of safe-guarding interests,

> > wealth, resources and position, and the seeking of supreme and

> > ultimate power--economic, political, and magickal--ultimately opposes

> > all progressive moves towards global democracy and freedom, human

> > rights and social justice, which are perceived as a direct threat to

> > the New World Order historical agenda of the Great White Brotherhood,

> > and their reactionary Secret Church, with all its various

> > denominations, royal courts, orders, and covens, who find unity of

> > purpose and intent through their Aryan white supremacist belief

> > system.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 15

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:13:39 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > Thank you..

> >

> > I have always wanted to do astral travel and meet my spiritual gurus to

> > guide me

> > further.. i have always felt them to be with me.. but i want to meet them

> > and seek

> > guidance..whenever i do meditation.. i only see as a light in a cave as my

> > spiritual

> > gurus..

> >

> > i guess i need some relaxation.. shaking is becomeing more as i keep

> > writing and

> > thinking about these things..

> >

> > AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA..

> >

> > anil

> > , "pillai_george"

> > <pillai_george> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > Not to worry,

> > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which goes thru all the

> > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You will feel what

> > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is very normal.Get ready

> > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > >

> > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint Arunagirinathar.

> > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close your eyes.

> > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > >

> > > Om namah shivaya

> > >

> > > Yours

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > > , "anil"

> > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Aum.

> > > >

> > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much energy

> > > within and i am

> > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > > >

> > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..

> > > >

> > > > Need immd help..

> > > >

> > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > >

> > > > rgds

> > > > anil

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 16

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:50:30 -0700 (PDT)

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > Re: Signals

> >

> > Very inspiring.

> > Thanks,

> > Divakar.

> >

> > --- pillai george <pillai_george> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a

> > > small, uninhabited island.

> > >

> > > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and

> > > every day he scanned the horizon for help, but none

> > > seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually managed

> > > to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect

> > > him from the elements, and to store his few

> > > possessions.

> > >

> > > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he

> > > arrived home to find his little hut in flames, the

> > > smoke rolling up to the sky.

> > >

> > > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was

> > > stunned with grief and anger.

> > >

> > > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> > >

> > > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the

> > > sound of a ship that was approaching the island. It

> > > had come to rescue him.

> > >

> > > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man

> > > of his rescuers.

> > >

> > > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> > >

> > > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going

> > > bad. But we shouldn't lose heart, because God is at

> > > work in our lives, even in the midst of pain and

> > > suffering.

> > >

> > > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to

> > > the ground, it just may be a smoke signal that

> > > summons the grace of God.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yours

> > >

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

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> > Message: 17

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT)

> > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > Re: Signals

> >

> > dear brother george

> >

> > your mails with various stories are highly inspirational for all devotees,

> > especially for those in distress. please continue your posting such nice

> > lessons whenever time permits you.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> > moderator

> >

> > pillai george <pillai_george> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small, uninhabited

> > island.

> >

> > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he scanned the

> > horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually

> > managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him from the

> > elements, and to store his few possessions.

> >

> > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to find his

> > little hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky.

> >

> > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was stunned with grief and

> > anger.

> >

> > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> >

> > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the sound of a ship that

> > was approaching the island. It had come to rescue him.

> >

> > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his rescuers.

> >

> > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> >

> > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going bad. But we shouldn't

> > lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the midst of pain

> > and suffering.

> >

> > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground, it just may

> > be a smoke signal that summons the grace of God.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours

> >

> > George Pillai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 18

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:05:12 -0700 (PDT)

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > Dear Anil,

> >

> > As we all requested please take some rest and let your

> > body adjust to your new energy. You will surely find

> > your quests but right now you need to take care of

> > your self. in my opinion spiritual journey is a long

> > and arduous.

> >

> > From whatever I have read and personal experience, we

> > can try to contact spiritual guides, but they will get

> > back to us only when they feel the time is right and

> > when we are ready for them, only in a high relaxed

> > state we can see them or communicate with them. you

> > dont have to focus so hard, they will communicate in a

> > simple manner like in your thoughts or dreams or

> > through people or happenings around you, you need an

> > open mind and patience, sometimes you can see then

> > also.

> >

> > Relax and spend time with your family, let your normal

> > life go on as it is, spiritual things happen at a very

> > slow pace, having so many expectations so soon will

> > disappoint you, I am telling this out of my personal

> > experience, things happen but they happen slowly, at

> > the pace God wants not at the pace we want.

> >

> > Relax, Sleepwell, re-joice in life. Keep things

> > simple, all great things in this world are very simple

> > we just dont realize.

> >

> > Regds,

> > Divakar.

> >

> > --- anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> >

> > > Thank you..

> > >

> > > I have always wanted to do astral travel and meet my

> > > spiritual gurus to guide me

> > > further.. i have always felt them to be with me..

> > > but i want to meet them and seek

> > > guidance..whenever i do meditation.. i only see as a

> > > light in a cave as my spiritual

> > > gurus..

> > >

> > > i guess i need some relaxation.. shaking is

> > > becomeing more as i keep writing and

> > > thinking about these things..

> > >

> > > AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA..

> > >

> > > anil

> > > ,

> > > "pillai_george"

> > > <pillai_george> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Anil,

> > > >

> > > > Not to worry,

> > > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which

> > > goes thru all the

> > > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You

> > > will feel what

> > > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is

> > > very normal.Get ready

> > > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > > >

> > > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint

> > > Arunagirinathar.

> > > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close

> > > your eyes.

> > > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > > >

> > > > Om namah shivaya

> > > >

> > > > Yours

> > > > George Pillai

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > "anil"

> > > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Aum.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it

> > > is shaking

> > > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i

> > > feel so much energy

> > > > within and i am

> > > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake

> > > happening..

> > > > >

> > > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating

> > > on my being..

> > > > >

> > > > > Need immd help..

> > > > >

> > > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > > >

> > > > > rgds

> > > > > anil

> > > > >

> > > >

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:59:18 +0530

> > KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

> > Re: seeking your advice

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Vijay ji,

 

Satan is Sat chit Anand for us..hope that put a smile on your face..

 

Aum

anil

, Vijay Balachandran

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> *Attention to all,*

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> *Crude remarks have been made on lord shiva and ganash as well in this

> website, for your kind attention.*

> http://www.themiraclesofjesusministry.org/vision-1-30-05.htm

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> Regards

> Vijay

> On 20 Oct 2005 22:04:26 -0000, <

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> > There are 19 messages in this issue.

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> > Topics in this digest:

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> > 1. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > 2. Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > 3. Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

> > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > 4. Re: mudras

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > 5. Re: God gave me everything

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 6. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 7. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 8. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 9. Mercury Shivalingam

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 10. Body Shaking

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 11. Jokes

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 12. Signals

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 13. seeking your advice

> > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

> > 14. Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The Three and t...

> > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > 15. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 16. Re: Signals

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > 17. Re: Signals

> > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > 18. Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > 19. Re: seeking your advice

> > KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

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> > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

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> > Dear Anil,

> >

> > Not to worry,

> > Your body as received much cosmic energy which goes thru all the

> > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You will feel what

> > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is very normal.Get ready

> > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> >

> > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint Arunagirinathar.

> > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close your eyes.

> > Just relax,relax,relax.

> >

> > Om namah shivaya

> >

> > Yours

> > George Pillai

> >

> > , "anil"

> > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

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> > > Aum.

> > >

> > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much energy

> > within and i am

> > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > >

> > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..

> > >

> > > Need immd help..

> > >

> > > What is happening to me ??

> > >

> > > rgds

> > > anil

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:32:39 -0000

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

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> > Dear members

> > A very good effort from Sri K.S.RAO ji for a noble cause.I am happy

> > that shiva group is helping the efforts for Ancient Temples

> > Renovation.Let us all come forward help Prof. R. Radhakrishnan by

> > Providing financial support needed for the renovation of dilapidated

> > ancient temples.

> > With Warm Regards

> > Prasanna kumar

> > om namah shivaya

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> > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

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> > wow what a beautiful krishna

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:39:04 -0000

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > Re: mudras

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> > Dear members

> > I am sorry the picture in the message is not being displayed .Pls refer

> > Our photo section for Mudras connected to the message.

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> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: God gave me everything

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> > BEAUTIFUL..

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> > HARI OM

> > anil

> > , pillai george <

> > pillai_george@y.

> > ..> wrote:

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> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Peace

> > > He Showed Me How to Help Others

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> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Strength

> > > He Gave Me Difficult Situations to Face

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Brain

> > > He Gave Me Puzzles in Life to Solve

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Happiness

> > > He Showed Me Some Unhappy People

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Wealth

> > > He Showed Me How to Work Hard

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> > > When I Asked God for Favors

> > > He Showed Me Opportunities to Work Harder

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> > > God Gave Me Nothing I Wanted

> > > He Gave Me Everything I Needed

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> > > Yours

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> > > George Pillai

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> > > Asia presents Meetic - where millions of singles gather

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:48:29 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

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> > My unconditional love to you and i bow to GOD within you..

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> > i feel OK.

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> > Aum Namah Shivaya namah Om.. chating is still ON inside me..

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> > AUM

> >

> > anil

> >

> > , KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

> > wrote:

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> > > Sh. Arun,

> > > Do not worry, it is accumulation of more positive energy in one of the

> > > chakras which got opened up. I have passed on Reiki energy to earth

> > excess

> > > enrgy as you wished to have immediate help. In case of any need you may

> > > contact me on my mobile

> > > KS Rao,

> > > Navi Mumbai

> > > Cell: 93242 94531

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > This is NarasimhaRao, I have 2+ years of exp. as java developer. Here I

> > am

> > > forwarding my cv.Plz go through this and let me know the details.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > J.Narasimharao

> > > 09867230696

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> > > On 10/19/05, anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > >

> > > > it started after i felt tremors due to earth quake in the morning.. i

> > live

> > > > on 14th floor in

> > > > gurgaon..

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > anil

> > > > , Mahapratibhawan

> > <branko.

> > > > ivatovic@g...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Anil,

> > > > > This is start spontaneous or after emotional shock?

> > > > > If your body not stop shaking please connect me direct to email.

> > > > > If you have best concentration please concentrate to point between

> > eyes

> > > > and

> > > > > up from this line on the forehead. Repeat heartily Om Namah Shivaya

> > (O

> > > > God

> > > > > all is Yours nothing My). Shavasana is perfect because is very easy

> > > > energy

> > > > > flow through Sushumna, but not good send any energy through

> > Sushumna! If

> > > > you

> > > > > can't see inner light or bindu and haven't inner sound (inner smell,

> > > > taste,

> > > > > touch) better not practice any technique because you without any

> > sign

> > > > > consciousness (Kunadalini Shakti or Para Shakti), only one from

> > Prana

> > > > Shakti

> > > > > go through you ida, pingala, sushumna or any nadi. Then shavasana or

> > > > > makarasana is perfect for you. Only full relax.

> > > > > Best in any cases Maha mantra: He Prabho Praseed Aum - O God Bless

> > (My)

> > > > Soul

> > > > > - without blessing we can't do nothing. Writing is better then

> > > > repeating. 2

> > > > > x 108 repeat or 1008 times writes.

> > > > > My God Bless You

> > > > > Mahapratibhawan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 10/19/05, anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Aum.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > sideways,

> > > > L-R,

> > > > > > sometimes

> > > > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much energy

> > > > within

> > > > > > and i am

> > > > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Need immd help..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > anil

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:45:37 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

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> > Shiva within me BOWS to yours.

> >

> > I have realized that saying in Bhagwat Gita when Lord Krishna says that i

> > remain in all

> > and so remaining i worhship myself..

> >

> > I must have been very very lucky to have got blessing from all members of

> > this group

> > ..

> >

> > Thanks a lot..

> >

> > i m feeling OK now..

> >

> > regards

> > anil

> > , "prasanna kumar"

> > <prasannakumar21@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear esteem members

> > > I wish to help Mr anilji let us all together pray from him,so that i

> > > can be back to normal.Today i have pray for him ,i hope other also help

> > > him in this regard.

> > > with warm Regards

> > > Prasanna

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:58:19 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

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> > Thank you..

> >

> > By grace of GOD..one seller from Nepal has offered me a Rudraksha Mala

> > 3-14 Mukhi

> > + GS + Ganaesha...and he wrote that he himself does not know why he is

> > offering so

> > huge discount..also he will get the mala energized at Pashupatinath

> > Temple..i have

> > visited that temple 18 years back..

> >

> > Saab Gorakh ki maya aur Marji hai..

> >

> > you are right, i need rest..as i am writing this email.. my body is still

> > shaking ..to realize

> > oneself as GOD..one gets so much of the GODDISH energy.. that now i

> > know..it is

> > very difficult for an ordinary person like me to even face it..

> >

> > this morning i meditated as Shiva..it is all by HIS grace..he has chosen

> > me to express

> > myself well.. this is the purpose of my life in this re-incarnation and

> > this forum has

> > helped me a lot..to share my feelings..

> >

> > Thanks to moderators for giving me an invitation to join this group..

> >

> > Aum

> >

> > anil

> > , Divakara Tanjore

<div_tan@y

> > ...

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > This excess energy will generate a lot of heat in your

> > > body, keep drinking a lot of water and fluids, just

> > > relax and do things which you like for a few days,

> > > dont exert your self doing a lot of mantra chanting,

> > > as long as you have compassion and love in you heart

> > > Lord shiva will always love you, you need plenty of

> > > rest.

> > >

> > > Once your body adjusts to this energy you will be a

> > > changed person spiritually, you can do more of Lord

> > > Shiva's work, for now just relax and let the energy

> > > ground itself.

> > >

> > > Enjoy your self and by joyous.

> > > Om namah shivaya,

> > > Regds,

> > > Divakar.

> > >

> > > --- prasanna kumar <prasannakumar21@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear esteem members

> > > > I wish to help Mr anilji let us all together pray

> > > > from him,so that i

> > > > can be back to normal.Today i have pray for him ,i

> > > > hope other also help

> > > > him in this regard.

> > > > with warm Regards

> > > > Prasanna

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:00:24 +0800 (CST)

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Mercury Shivalingam

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> > Dear Bro's and Sister's,

> >

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> >

> > An Article that attracts me at Rudra Centre.

> >

> > www.rudraksha-ratna.com <http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com>

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> > He who worships Mercury Shivalingam devotedly, whether one is male or

> > female, Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra gets full worldly pleasures, and

> > at last attains supreme destination (salvation). During life-span they get

> > glory, honour, high office, name and fame, sons, grandsons and perfection in

> > learning. At last they get salvation. The virtue got by seeing the Twelve

> > Jyotirlingas is received only by looking at the Mercury Shivalinga. The

> > chance to look at it is possible only when the worshipper's virtues of

> > previous births come to light. By worshipping the Mercury Shivalingas, the

> > worshipper gets the fruits which are attained only by worshipping

> > Shivalingas which are situated in three Lokas (cosmic worlds).

> >

> >

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> > Complete with 8 Sanskaars(8 stage of Purifications done as per Parad

> > Sanmhita) and removal of Saptakanchuki(100 % medicated and hygienic); the

> > Siddha Parad(Mercury mouth closed with Aghor Vidhya) is formed to make

> > Murthi-Badhha/Agnibadha(sustain the heat) Shiva lingam.

> >

> > Prepared by Ayurvedic methods as written in ancient scriptures. Made out

> > of Siddh Parad/Mercury and rare herbs. The Shivling contains no other metal

> > except Mercury. It can be made to powder by crushing and as well can be

> > turned in to the Pure Mercury form by heating to the very high temperature

> > comply with the Parad Sanmhita. The Extract from this Shivling gives 24 Ras

> > and 5 Tatva which removes all diseases in the body. To have a Shiva lingam

> > made from Parad/Mercury, one must be blessed through good karmic deeds of

> > past lives.

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> > Pandit Shree Deenanathji mades it for Rudra centre.

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> > Brief about Panditji Shree Deenanathji

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> >

> > Born in Aug 1938 in a small village named Nadbai, in the district of

> > Bharatpur (Rajasthan), Pundit Shree Dinanathji was highly inclined to learn

> > the secrets of Ayurveda. To fulfill his keen desire to learn the science of

> > Ayurveda especially the Parad/Mercury, he joined the ashram of Saint Shree

> > Nirmalandji Chaitanya Brahmachai in 1971 to study mercury science. His

> > ashram was in southern corner of Narmada river.

> >

> > Later he did his research and development on mercury at many holy places

> > of India namely Omkareshwar, Amarkantak, Haridwar, Hrishikesh, Pushkar,

> > Badrinath, Gangotri and Jamnotri. 40 years ago he opened a Ayurvedic medical

> > research centre in Dosa district near Jaipur. Now he is in Jaipur since last

> > 20 years running a medical centre which provides facilities for treatment of

> > asthma, blood pressure, liver, diabetes, skin, gastritis, rheumatism,

> > arthritis, thyroid related problems.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours

> >

> > George Pillai

> >

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> > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:41:37 +0800 (CST)

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Body Shaking

> >

> > Dear Anil ji,

> >

> > Your body have received abundant cosmic energy. Body shake is very normal

> > at this situation. The cosmic energy will pass thru 72000 nadi's to activate

> > your chakras. After the third eye opening get yourself ready to go on a

> > Astral journey. It will be a wonderful experience (soul) seeing your own

> > body.

> >

> > Lord Subramaniam told Saint Arunagirinathar to

> >

> > Just sit quietly, close your eye, don't think anything or chant any

> > mantra's.

> > Just Relax,relax,relax.

> >

> > You will become a "Miraculous Creator"

> >

> > Yours

> > George Pillai

> >

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> > Meet your soulmate!

> > Asia presents Meetic - where millions of singles gather

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:15:55 +0800 (CST)

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Jokes

> >

> >

> > This story was sent by a Yogi from Switzerland who founded the Geneva

> > Sivananda Yoga Center.

> >

> > The Swiss, as we all know, tend to be placid people. Some go as far as

> > claiming that we are occasionnally somewhat slow.

> >

> >

> > Three Swiss monks of the benedictine order were meditating high in the

> > Alps. Suddenly, a beautiful milk cow walked by.

> >

> >

> > The first monk said : "HHHMMM, this is Fritz's cow, I tell you".

> > Half an hour later, the second monk said : " HHHMMM, really that was

> > Kurt's cow. I'm quite sure".

> >

> >

> > An other half hour later, the third Swiss monk stood up and said "I'm

> > going away, I can't stand you guys having an argument around me when I'm

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> > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small, uninhabited

> > island.

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> > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he scanned the

> > horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually

> > managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him from the

> > elements, and to store his few possessions.

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> > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to find his

> > little hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky.

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> > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was stunned with grief and

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> > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

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> > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the sound of a ship that

> > was approaching the island. It had come to rescue him.

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> > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his rescuers.

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> > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

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> > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going bad. But we shouldn't

> > lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the midst of pain

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> > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground, it just may

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> > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

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> > can some one guide me on Silver-Parad Shiv Ling.Its benifits and how to

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> > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The Three and t...

> >

> > I replied to this once and for some strange reason my reply was not

> > posted; so I reply here again.....

> > , "saidevo"

> > <saidevo> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear JCsharanananda Ji,

> > >

> > > 1. In my limited familiarity, I have not read anywhere in

> > > Theosophical literature that Theosophy favours fair-skinned

> > > and condemns dark-skinned. ...

> > > 2. I think Theosophy has nothing to do with the Aryan Invasion

> > > or Aryan Supremacy Theory that the British and Nazis populated.

> > > The AIT has lately been discounted by the BBC as its Website

> > > says. If you think otherwise, please indicate a source that

> > > says that Theosophy favours the 'Aryans', the fair-skinned.

> >

> > > 3. However, it should be admitted that Theosophy favours

> > > Buddhism more than Hinduism, which may be because of the rituals

> > > in our religion. ....

> > > 4. My personal impression is that as Theosophy gains more and

> > > more acceptance in the New Age, there is a danger that the

> > > modern theosophists might present the timeless concepts of

> > > Vedatanta as those originated in the West. ........

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > saidevo

> >

> > you can find much on the nazis and their interest in theosophy.

> > anyone who has an even limited knowledge of this sees that the nazis

> > used the swastika. their arayan theories were inspired by theosophy

> > and varna. on a side note the nazis went to tibet on an expedition

> > to measure the cranial structures of the tibetans to see if they were

> > partially arayan.

> > amyone with a search engine could type in "nazi theosophy" and come

> > to several references. I found it out from history text books in

> > school.

> > for those who are unable to look at their search engines or history

> > books....here are a few reference materials that might provoke

> > further study.....

> >

> > While on the surface the members of the third Reich looked like they

> > had mostly political aims, they actually harbored many extreme and

> > dangerous "religious" and mythological views, which in time they

> > hoped to bring to the forefront of Germany. Hitler and his followers

> > were fascinated by occultism and psychical research. One such

> > fascination was with the teachings of a Mme Blavatsky, around the

> > late 1800s early 1900s in a school of thought now called Theosophy

> > Theosophy was a conglomeration of teachings including occultism,

> > research into ghosts and paranormal phenomena, and an extensive

> > philosophical/religious base often based upon mythology, the gnostic

> > new testament, a sort of 'Atlantean cult" and "Alexandrian"

> > teachings.1

> >

> > While the term can be applied generically to a group of philosophies:

> >

> >

> > "...Gr: knowledge of things divine, fr. ? wise in the things of God;

> > God + wise: cf. F. th['e]osophie.] Any system of philosophy or

> > mysticism which proposes to attain intercourse with God and superior

> > spirits, and consequent superhuman knowledge, by physical processes,

> > as by the theurgic operations of some ancient Platonists, or by the

> > chemical processes of the German fire philosophers; also, a direct,

> > as distinguished from a revealed, knowledge of God, supposed to be

> > attained by extraordinary illumination; especially, a direct insight

> > into the processes of the divine mind, and the interior relations of

> > the divine nature.(Webster 1913) or

> > more recently: Medieval Latin theosophia, from Late Greek, from Greek

> > the- + sophia wisdom -- more at -SOPHY 1 : teaching about God and the

> > world based on mystical insight 2 often capitalized : the teachings

> > of a modern movement originating in the U.S. in 1875 and following

> > chiefly Buddhist and Brahmanic theories especially of pantheistic

> > evolution and reincarnation (Miriam Webster online)

> >

> >

> > , the movement and current rendering of Theosophy is primarily

> > identified with the works of Blavatsky and cohorts around the turn of

> > the century.

> > Part and parcel to the philosophy was the belief that one day, the

> > race of superior human beings who inhabited the semi-mythical Lost

> > City of Atlantis would reappear, through the superior Aryan peoples.

> > They also argued that there have been successions of 'root races" and

> > that we are in the 5th root of 7. When the 7th arrives, it will be

> > equated with power and perfection. A beginning, inferior race which

> > they equated with the Hebrews of History found in the Bible would be

> > utter replaced, and necessarily for the more advanced to take hold.

> > Blavatsky and others believed that as the human race evolved,

> > the 'superior' race would find its place by supplanting this earlier

> > root race. A Utopia in Theosophy would only come about eventually as

> > an evolved, genetically superior persons descended from the

> > Atlanteans would take hold, displacing a people they identified as

> > the Jews and other inferior races. This new superior race was aligned

> > with and akin to Hitler's concept of the "Master Race". Hitler,

> > Himmler and other Inner Circle members ascribed to these

> > philosophies, although they kept them secret from the general German

> > public earlier in the war. The Eugenicists of the time, funded and

> > endorsed by the Third Reich, active both in Europe and in America

> > thought to apply their pseudo-science to the controlled advent of

> > this end.

> >

> > Among Blavatsky's early circle of followers who met for study and

> > seances, were the author Arthur Conan Doyle, and Westcott & Hort, the

> > re-translators of the Bible version Revised Standard 2. Blavatsky's

> > influence was widely felt, not only in certain philosophies adhered

> > to by the Third Reich, but in the development of what is now referred

> > to as "New Age" philosophies. Westcott and Hort and others of her

> > followers helped found a society to study ghosts,3 which later became

> > the Society for Psychical Research, which is still extant, and

> > studies many instances of paranormal phenomena.

> >

> > Warning Signs of Root Race Theory

> > I. Frequent mention of Atlantis,the descendants of Atlantis, or the

> > recently discovered "ruins of Atlantis" (not proven to be from

> > Atlantis)note

> > II. Notions of Racial Superiority, or one race having characteristics

> > nearing perfection.

> >

> > III. A Replacement Race Ideas expressed about the 'replacement' of a

> > final race over earlier more primitive races.

> >

> > IV.Final Race War: A more estoteric mention of a philsophy held by

> > Himmler called 'Volkeschaos" or "the peoples/nations Chaos" referring

> > to an end time final war (like Armaggedon, but not the same) in which

> > all races or ethnic groups hold a final bloody battle, resulting in

> > Victory for a Master Race.

> >

> > V. Talk of Philosophy and Religion as a mix, using the

> > term "Theosophy" as a religious term instead of directly referring to

> > it as a separate belief system.

> >

> > Root Race theory is not a 'religious group" but a quasi-doctrine,

> > which may be adapted to many belief systems. The two main places it

> > is found are in Theosophy, where it forms the foundation for the

> > overall view of the course of mankind, and in White Aryanism or

> > Nazism, where it is used as motivation for racial cleansing or

> > purifying. The belief that a Master Race must emerge replacing lesser

> > races, motivated the Nazis to Endlosung or the "Final Solution" of

> > the 'Jewish Problem' which translated into the mass extermination of

> > the Jews of Europe.

> >

> > Blavatsky's Polarian Race (The First Root Race)

> > Blavatsky's account of evolution, like those of her successors, is

> > anthropocentric, pertaining to the evolution of man, not of the

> > Earth. But it is an evolution extended out through cycles of cosmic

> > evolution, into the cosmos, so it is not just an anthropology, but a

> > cosmology as well. She speaks of human evolution in terms of a

> > number of Root-Races, each of which existed for a while before being

> > replaced by the next. The early Root-Races were not even physical at

> > all, but vast, amorphous, etheric beings.

> >

> > "The First Root-Race, i.e. the first "men" on earth (irrespective of

> > form) were the progeny of the "celestial men"...in Indian philosophy

> > the "Lunar Ancestors" or the Pitris, of which there are seven classes

> > or Hierarchies" [p.74]

> > Unlike Judeo-Christianity, in Blavatsky's cosmology, "man" is the

> > creation of higher spiritual hierarchies, but not of "God". They are

> > described as the astral Shadows of the Progenitors [p.181, 188], "so

> > ethereal and so little human in constitution they could not be

> > affected by any elements - flood or fire" [p.181].

> >

> > Just as the Polarians are themselves non-physical, so was

> > the "continent" upon which they dwelled. It is referred to as

> > the "Imperishable Sacred Land", which did not "share the fate of the

> > other continents" [p.152] (i.e. to be destroyed at the end of the

> > era).

> >

> > The Polarians reproduced through fission, as the amoeba does today

> > [p.189]. They "were devoid of all understanding (mind, intelligence,

> > and will)." [p.188]. They were "ethereal, a-sexual, and even

> > devoid...of desire" [p.176]. The individuals of this Race did not

> > actually die. Instead, they "melted gradually away, becoming

> > absorbed in the bodies of their own "sweat-born" progeny (the Second

> > Race), more solid than their own." [p.179].

> >

> > Blavatsky's thesis that our distant progenitors were gigantic etheric

> > amoebas may seem incredible at first, but support comes from a rather

> > unexpected quarter: a UFO researcher, Trevor James Constable, who

> > photographed unusual UFO phenomena using infra-red film in an

> > otherwise ordinary camera.

> >

> > Blavatsky's Polarian Root Race, and even the term "Polarian", was

> > adopted with little modification by Rudolph Steiner

> >

> > and from wikipedia a note....

> >

> > Overview

> > Nazi mysticism is a volkish initiation with roots in the Thule

> > society and theosophy, as well as the racist ideas of Arthur de

> > Gobineau. Guido von List and Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels were important

> > figures ........

> >

> > .....Research and expeditions

> > A great deal of time and resources were spent on researching or

> > creating a popularly accepted "historical", "cultural"

> > and "scientific" background so the ideas about a "superior" Aryan

> > race could prosper in the German society of the time. Mystical

> > organizations such as the Thule Society, Schwarze Sonne, Vrill

> > Society and others were created, usually connected with elite SS

> > corps, and adopting specific rituals, initiations and beliefs.

> >

> > Expeditions in Tibet, Nepal, Greece, the Arctic, and Neuschwabenland

> > in Antarctica were organized in the search for the mythical "Aryan"

> > nation of Hyperborea, whose capital, Ultima Thule was supposedly

> > built by the extraterrestrial ancestors of the "Aryan races" who came

> > from the star Aldebaran, according to some of the "Aryan" theories.

> >

> > A German expedition to Tibet was organized in order to search for the

> > origins of the Aryan race. To this end, the expedition leader, Ernst

> > Schäfer, had his anthropologist Bruno Beger make face masks and skull

> > and nose measurements.

> >

> > Similar expeditions were organized in the pursuit of semi-mythical

> > objects believed to bring power or granting special powers to their

> > owner, such as the Holy Grail and the Spear of Destiny.

> >

> > again, anyone with access to a history book, library or search engine

> > can easy read very much on this topic, its not some dusty secret

> > hidden away.

> >

> > now as to your new age idea and support of theosophy, thats a matter

> > of opinion and personal conscience. it pains me though that you

> > would be so quick to forgive a movement that was championed by adolph

> > hitler and other racists and new agers. It pains me because we are

> > brothers under mahadev. please read more and keep open mind before

> > defending these new age movements. kali yuga has long long long time

> > left. the vaishnavas and shaivites of traditional lineages are in

> > agreement on this. and traditional buddhists believe that coming of

> > maitreya is a long long time away.

> > if one wants to read alot, that is those who have lots of time on

> > their hands they can read blavatsky herself here.....The Secret

> > Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky

> >

> > here is a little more..... The Secret History

> >

> > The Secret History's most important figures are perhaps self-

> > proclaimed Russian mystic Madame Helena Blavatsky and her American

> > husband Colonel Henry Olcott. The result of their collaboration would

> > thrust the world into the abyss and cost the lives of millions.

> >

> > Their Theosophy ideology became popular amongst the middle classes in

> > Germany at the end of the 1800's, mostly because of its introduction

> > to Eastern religious and mystical ideas. Blavatsky claimed to have

> > been party to revelations from Hidden Masters called the "Great White

> > Brotherhood" who resided somewhere in the Himalayas. But Blavatsky

> > later admitted in letters to her sister that this was a codename for

> > the Rosicrucian hierarchy who funded her. It is clear her work is

> > influenced, if not sourced, in the work of Masonic demagogue General

> > Albert Pike - the American South's Sovereign Grand Commander of the

> > Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry,

> > Civil War war criminal, and leading member of the Ku Klux Klan - who

> > revealed Rosicrucian/Masonic doctrine and its "Aryan heritage" in his

> > unpublished pamphlet Morals & Dogma (1871) that was distributed to

> > Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret (32nd degree) Scottish Rite

> > initiates.

> >

> > Albert Pike is regarded as bringing "order out of chaos" by rewriting

> > the ancient rites of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, formerly devised by

> > groups in France including the Council of the Emperors of the East

> > and West (now known as the European Council of Princes) and the Royal

> > Stewart's Chapter of Clermont, based at the College of the Jesuits,

> > Paris in 1761. Pike modernized these rituals for the modern American

> > leader, and explained their Aryan source and meaning in Morals &

> > Dogma and numerous other works. At this time Pike was head of the

> > Supreme Council of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, based in Charleston,

> > South Carolina, and following the Civil War and dropped charges of

> > treason against Pike, the Supreme Council moved to Washington DC.

> >

> > Blavatsky's breakthrough book The Secret Doctrine (1888) was an

> > attempt to popularize the racist concepts of Rosicrucian belief at a

> > time of great change and turmoil. America was recovering from the

> > Civil War, and the abolition of Slavery was forcing a redefinition of

> > the West's perception of Race. The radical decision to reveal the

> > beliefs of the power elite came at a time when desperate measures

> > seemed necessary. The Priory of Sion within the Royal Houses of

> > Europe and various occult circles were attempting to create a

> > movement with their Synarchy ideology, a politicized form of

> > Rosicrucian dogma. Synarchy advocated government by secret society -

> > an elite of enlightened initiates who rule from behind the scenes.

> > This found expression through the writings of Joseph Saint-Yves

> > d'Alveydre, which called for the infiltration of "the three key

> > pillars of society... political and social institutions, economic

> > institutions, and religious institutions". The infamous Protocols of

> > the Learned Elders of Sion (commonly known by its Old English

> > variant "Zion") are clearly some form of manifesto for the

> > implementation of Synarchy's aims, and are signed by

> > the "representatives of Sion of the 33rd degree". Not surprisingly,

> > the content of the Protocols have much similarity to Albert Pike's

> > central work Morals and Dogma. Synarchy was opposed to ideas of

> > democracy and social equality, as only the Synarchists were

> > the "natural leaders".

> >

> > As the masses of Europe were rising up rebelliously against their

> > feudal overlords, the Holy Roman Empire was in disarray. The First

> > Reich, founded in 800 by the 'Emperor of the West' Charlemagne, had

> > been smashed by Napoleon following the French Revolution. With

> > Napoleon's eventual defeat, the Holy Roman Empire reformed in a

> > weakened and splintered state. Prussia/Germany took the former

> > Gnostic Cathar regions of Lorraine and Alsace back from revolutionary

> > France, and established the Second Empire under Kaiser Wilhelm I. He

> > was allied with the Austrian-Hungarian-Croatian Empire, which was

> > still under the control of the Grail bloodline House of Habsburg, who

> > had been ruling for the previous 600 years. Power was still very

> > much in the hands of the Princes of Europe and the Vatican, who found

> > unity within their occult "Secret Church" that has historically

> > always existed behind the "Visible Church".

> >

> > Theosophy was born in 1875, a key time of political upheavals

> > throughout Europe, as Russia was moving towards revolution, following

> > the examples set by America and France. The Theosophy movement was

> > an attempt to occultize the newly emerging industrial and merchant

> > class and provide a spiritual antidote to Marxism straight from the

> > Rosicrucian philosophy that previously had been for hand-picked

> > initiates only. The Grail aristocratic families of the Holy Roman

> > Empire were planning to reunify the old territories and needed the

> > control and support of the managing classes. It is no coincidence

> > that their plan to "infiltrate Freemasonry and seize absolute control

> > of the Western World's social, political and economic institutions"

> > as outlined in the Protocols of Sion appeared simultaneously with the

> > Synarchy ideology and the creation of Madame Blavatsky's Theosophy

> > movement. As the Protocols stress "Our philosophers will discuss all

> > the shortcomings of the various beliefs of the manipulated. But no-

> > one will ever bring under discussion our faith from its true point of

> > view since this will be fully learned by none save ours who will

> > never dare betray its secrets".

> >

> > At the turn of the 20th century this agenda was again outlined in the

> > Priory of Sion's Hieron du Val D'Or that described "a theocracy

> > wherein nations will be no more than provinces, their leaders but

> > proconsuls in the service of a world occult government consisting of

> > an elite. This regime of the Great King will be a double hegemony of

> > the Papacy and the Empire, of the Vatican and of the Habsburgs".

> > This ambitious scheme was thwarted with the assassination of the

> > Habsburg heir Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria in 1914, an event

> > that ignited the First World War.

> >

> > Theosophy's teachings about enlightened mystics guiding human

> > evolution towards the creation of a higher super-race, and pseudo-

> > theories about the ancient Aryan civilization of Atlantis, promoted

> > dangerous racial theories that formed the core of Austrian and German

> > anti-Semitism.

> >

> > From an aristocratic background, Helena Blavatsky, the widow of

> > Russian Army General Count Blavatsky, designed elaborate genetic

> > family trees that clearly illustrated the superiority of the Aryan

> > people over the other races of the world. These strange beliefs were

> > heralded by middle class occultists throughout Germany and Austria-

> > Hungary and merged with their extreme right-wing nationalist

> > politics. Hence, complete reunification of the Holy Roman Empire,

> > effectively abolished by Napoleon in 1806, became a priority not only

> > of the ruling aristocracies, but also of the merchant middle classes.

> >

> > The ensuing horrors of the First World War was an attempt to take

> > France from the democratic Republicans by a vengeful aristocracy who

> > had seen their brethren murdered by the French revolution. The new

> > middle-class occultists such as Guido von List and his Armanen Order,

> > Baron von Sebottendorf and his Thule Society, and Lanz von Liebenfels

> > and the Order of the New Templars refered to the First World War as a

> > Holy War, revealing the quasi-religious and philosophical motives of

> > their Hidden Masters. It has been documented that Nazi party leaders

> > Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Rudolph Hess and Hermann Goering were

> > all members of these occult secret societies. The Protocols of the

> > Learned Elders of Sion and the Hieron du Val d'Or are proof that a

> > conspiracy of epic proportions was at play behind the broader

> > political scene.

> >

> > The end of the First World War resulted in Kaiser Wilhelm I being

> > banished to Belgium and the removal of the Habsburgs from the throne

> > of the Second Empire--the global "hegemony of Great King and Pope"

> > was delayed. The Habsburg's reluctant abdication was upon the

> > insistence of the Allied nations and their Treaty of St. Germaine.

> > Incidentally, the Order of St. Germaine is the French Royal Stewart

> > equivalent of the Habsburg's Order of Sion (each laying claim to

> > genetic superiority and Kingship of Jerusalem) - such is the secret

> > subtext of European war and politics. The magickally relevant

> > regions of Alsace and Lorraine were promptly returned to the Republic

> > of France through the Treaty of Versailles, which not so much

> > infuriated a young Hitler, as his aristocratic Hidden Masters behind

> > the curtain. While their agenda had brutally backfired, the Great

> > White Brotherhood were by no means beaten, and a simple reversal of

> > the truth (a common propaganda technique) would lead them ever closer

> > to their goal, and introduce the world to perhaps their greatest spin

> > doctor.

> >

> > In his popular book Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler conveniently used the

> > Protocols of the Elders of Sion to deceptively "prove" that a global

> > conspiracy was afoot - but led by the League of Jewish Rabbis. This

> > stirred massive anti-Semitism that ultimately justified the Holocaust

> > to the German people. Earlier in 1919, the newly formed Thule

> > Society had distributed copies of the controversial Protocols to

> > troops of the White Russian army loyal to the Czar, in an attempt to

> > blame the Jews for the ensuing Revolution. This led to the massacre

> > of 60,000 Jews over two years, and was perhaps the beginning of the

> > Jewish Holocaust. The Rosicrucian Protocols document is still used

> > by neo-Nazi groups throughout the world to stir anti-Semitism and

> > hate. Even today Rebublican David Duke promotes these same anti-

> > Semitic theories on his popular website and continues to blame the

> > Russian Revolution on the Jewish people, regardless of the historical

> > oppression of the Russian people that motivated this conflict. The

> > fact that Jerusalem's Mount Sion/Zion is prophesied (according to St.

> > John's Revelation) as the place of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ

> > is conveniently ignored by these right-wing groups. As is the fact

> > that the premier secret organization dedicated to this Second Coming,

> > albeit through a complex and conflicted view of genetic bloodlines

> > and reactionary socio-political models, is the Priory of Sion.

> >

> > Although thought by many academics to be a creation of Russian Czar

> > Nicholas II's secret police, to those aware of occult references the

> > Protocols of Sion clearly show the hand of the Grail/Dragon

> > sovereignty. It is likely the Czarists altered the texts to include

> > traditional Jewish terminology that otherwise has no place in what is

> > obviously a Rosicrucian agenda with Jesuit undertones.

> >

> > The Yiddish word "Goyim" (meaning Gentile) has been inserted in as

> > many places as possible, even in places grammatically inappropriate.

> > Written in a tone of lofty superiority, echoed in the contemporary

> > writings of Nicholas De Vere, the masses are refered to throughout

> > as "the Mob", "bloodthirsty beasts", "alcoholized animals"

> > and "cattle". Passages such as "From the premier-dictators of the

> > day the peoples suffer greatly and bear such abuses, as for the least

> > of them they would have beheaded twenty kings... unification must be

> > achieved only under our Sovereign rule", clearly reveal an embittered

> > post-French Revolution power elite planning to restore the "King of

> > the blood of Sion whom we are preparing for the World".

> >

> > Also overlooked in the analysis of the Protocols is their similarity

> > to the little heard of "Secret Instructions of the Society of Jesus",

> > which outline a goal of bringing in a golden age or millenium with

> > the entire world under the authority of the Pope to enable the Second

> > Coming of Jesus Christ. Indeed, the Jesuits' Secret Instructions

> > could be considered a prototype of the Protocols of Sion with its

> > rhetoric of subterfuge such as "We must inculcate this doctrine with

> > Kings and Princes, that the Catholic faith cannot exist in the

> > present state, without politics; but that in this, it is necessary to

> > proceed with much certainty. Of this mode, we must share the

> > affection of the great, and be admitted to the most secret

> > councils."

> >

> > "We must be careful to change our politics, conforming to the times,

> > and excite the Princes, friends of ours to mutually make terrible

> > wars that everywhere the mediation of the Society will be implored;

> > that we may be employed in the public reconciliation... the Society

> > afterwards can count on the favor and authority of the Princes,

> > procuring that those who do not love us shall fear us."

> >

> > Discovered towards the end of the Holy Roman Empire's Thirty Year War

> > with itself that resulted in France being given part of Alsace and

> > Lorraine (only to be later reclaimed by the Second and Third Empires)

> > and cities ruined and millions dead, the Jesuits' Secret Instructions

> > clearly are an inspirational source for the Protocols of Sion, which

> > would be written 200 years later following the formation of Ancient &

> > Accepted Scottish Rite Freemasonry. With passages such as "If the

> > Pope should return as temporal prince of all the properties; for as

> > much as it is very necessary to extend little by little, with much

> > secrecy and skill, the temporalities of the Society; and not having

> > any doubt that the world will enter the Golden Age" there can be no

> > doubt that The Protocols of the Elders of Sion are the work of the

> > Jesuits, the European Council of Princes, and their Rosicrucian

> > allies within 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasonry. As outlined in

> > the final Protocol "Confirming the roots of King David and the

> > training of the King", the Grail/Christ bloodline conspirators insist

> > that "sensuality worse than all else disorganizes the capacities of

> > the mind and clearness of views" and should not be a quality of their

> > King - thus denying any instinctive connection to his humanity in

> > true Jesuit and Rosicrucian style. There is little in Judaism about

> > the repressing of the senses in order to achieve any kind of kinghood.

> >

> > Following the widespread distribution of the Protocols by the Thule

> > Society and Hitler's protege Alfred Rosenberg, it was the

> > added "Jewish" elements that were seized upon by Hitler's Mein Kampf

> > and Henry Ford's The International Jew. Conveniently both of these

> > fervantly anti-Semitic works chose to ignore the Rosicrucian

> > references of the Protocols, and the fact that the "Return of the

> > King" agenda is not traditionally Jewish or a historical goal of

> > Jewish Zionism, but the secret goal of the Catholic/Rosicrucian/Grail

> > elites. Perhaps the popularization of the altered Protocols was an

> > attempt at damage control, and a pointing of the finger away from the

> > true authors, as their actual neo-feudalistic agenda was becoming

> > known by political and occult scholars. Or something even more

> > nefarious: "It is hardly credible that the baddies would reveal their

> > fell purposes so blatantly", commented Foucault's Pendulum author

> > Umberto Eco on the current recycling of the Protocols within popular

> > culture and the disturbing rise of "crude forms of racism of the neo-

> > Celtic kind" -- and yet the use of the Protocols was the primary

> > justification for the Holocaust and the attempted annihilation of the

> > Jews, who are regarded as the historical "perfidious Enemy" of both

> > Jesuit and Rosicrucian elites.

> >

> > Hitler's Third Empire would go one step further than Theosophy,

> > taking Rosicrucian and Occult theories directly to the working class

> > people of Germany, and openly running the country according to their

> > principles. Their use of Rosicrucian symbolism, the Swastika, the

> > Nuremberg rallies/rituals, and inner occult orders within

> > Himmler's "SS", who like the Knights of Malta and Dragon Court

> > insisted upon a long heritage of pure Aryan blood before initiation,

> > clearly illustrates how linked National Socialism was with the secret

> > agenda and beliefs of the power elite. It is clear the Nazi movement

> > was a new approach to feudalism, by the same aristocratic ruling

> > powers. Realizing that some sense of revolution must be fulfilled in

> > the ordinary working classes, Nazism gave the impression of

> > revolution, but was in fact the Restoration of the feudal overlords

> > of the Holy Roman Empire, and the beginning of the National Socialist

> > deception.

> >

> > Hitler's personal aide escaped his clutches and fled to Britain. In

> > 1939 he wrote an eye witness account of the madness of the Third

> > Reich: "What will the social order of the future be like? Comrade, I

> > will tell you. There will be a class of overlords, after them the

> > rank and file of the party members in hierarchical order, and then

> > the great mass of anonymous followers, servants and workers in

> > perpetuity, and beneath them again all the conquered foreign races,

> > the modern slaves. And over and above all these will reign a new and

> > exalted nobility of whom I cannot speak. But of all these plans the

> > militant members will know nothing. The new man is living amongst us

> > now! He is here. Isn't that enough for you? I will tell you a

> > secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was

> > afraid of him" - Adolf Hitler quoted from "Hitler Speaks" by Hermann

> > Rauschning.

> >

> > Hitler could not have expressed the aims of the Protocols of the

> > Elders of Sion or the Hieron du Val d'Or more eloquently. Today the

> > agenda of the power elite continues using its network of Occult and

> > political structures - from the unaccountable Bilderberg Group to the

> > elite of the Dragon Court, from the undemocratic Trilateral

> > Commission to the transnational Knights of Malta. Through their

> > influence and control the Synarchists continue to stay on top of the

> > power pyramid, regardless of how much global suffering and misery is

> > caused, and maintain the anti-democratic structures of a hidden

> > feudalist system. By his own admission, the new head of the European

> > Council of Princes HRH Prince Michael Stewart recently replaced HSH

> > Prince Otto von Habsburg of Austria as chief representative of the

> > thirty three Royal Houses of Europe. These are the thirty three Holy

> > Grail bloodline royal families who bizarrely claim descent from Jesus

> > Christ (who they believe was a Dragon high priest/king), and their

> > historical goal remains the same. But who exactly are their allies?

> >

> > Has the Western world finally and completely internalized the values

> > of the Great White Brotherhood?

> >

> > Again these same secret societies are revealing the inner secrets of

> > their inverted belief system, in the hope of converting new followers

> > in key positions of influence. Their philosophers continue to seduce

> > the highest levels of the military, politics, and business, and reach

> > out to the public through books, lectures, and the internet. While

> > the economic and political power of 21st Century Synarchy spin

> > doctors such as Sir Laurence Gardner and Prince Nicholas de Vere is

> > narrow, their esteemed position and knowledge within occult circles

> > will almost certainly reach many with genuine clout: namely high

> > level Freemasons and Rosicrucians within the corporate-military-

> > industrial complex. While most of the world naively believes

> > democracy has truly replaced feudalism, the concentration of wealth

> > in the hands of a few, with majority ownership of stocks, bonds and

> > real estate, and even the 2000 American Presidential elections,

> > proves the contrary. The richest 254 people in the world own more

> > wealth than 47% of the global population.

> >

> > Right-wing conspiracy theorists mistakenly believe the goal of the

> > secret societies is a One World Utopia, or Global Socialist State,

> > but this couldn't be further from the truth. Synarchy's "Global

> > Village" will be ruled by the "Dark Lords from their Castles of

> > Darkness"; reigning supreme, uncontested, and as the past has shown,

> > plotting to starve the poor to feed the rich, while a divided middle-

> > class competes for the scraps--a historical socio-political model

> > that is the norm in most developing countries. Undemocratic and

> > inaccessible political and economic organizations - whether ultra-

> > conservative "think-tanks" or globalization commissions - ultimately

> > harness the methodology of fascism, and are the enemies of a truly

> > democratic and open World Unity or Global Village.

> >

> > The biblical struggle against the anti-Christ is not some future

> > event - it is History, past and present, and symbolic of the struggle

> > between anti-hero and hero, darkness and light, feudalism and

> > democracy.

> >

> > The likely consequences of the Occult Conspiracy suggest that the

> > economic, political, and social decision making of individuals allied

> > with the aims of the European aristocatic secret society network,

> > whether in the Vatican, the British Crown, the American Government,

> > European politics, transnational Corporations, or the vast

> > bureaucracy of Nato's military machine, will consciously or

> > unconsciously reflect their initiation, indoctrination, and

> > allegiance to the Aryan/Rosicrucian white supremacist perception of

> > the world.

> >

> > Having internalized their Rulers of the Universe values, mega-

> > corporations and conglomerates backed by the WTO and other spurious

> > organizations, are attempting to hold the world to ransom by

> > copyright patenting essential items for basic human survival, such as

> > human DNA, genetically modified rice and wheat that is forced upon

> > Third World farmers, and life-saving AIDS drugs (most of which were

> > developed by public-funded universities). While the poorest

> > countries face trade sanctions for trying to stay alive, more

> > elaborate methods of "bio-piracy" are being devised to more

> > effectively steal the natural resources of our world. As drug

> > companies reach yearly profits of over $1.3 billion each, the power

> > elite's starve the poor to feed the rich methodology continues into

> > the 21st Century. Even the CIA admits in its recent Global 2015

> > report that the gap between rich and poor will grow greater with the

> > effects of globalization. As South Africa's Nelson Mandela recently

> > asked "Is there a direct link between Africa's poverty, and the

> > Western world's wealth?" According to Rosicrucian logic, this

> > inequality is not only necessary, but vital.

> >

> > The Spider's Web of cause and effect, of safe-guarding interests,

> > wealth, resources and position, and the seeking of supreme and

> > ultimate power--economic, political, and magickal--ultimately opposes

> > all progressive moves towards global democracy and freedom, human

> > rights and social justice, which are perceived as a direct threat to

> > the New World Order historical agenda of the Great White Brotherhood,

> > and their reactionary Secret Church, with all its various

> > denominations, royal courts, orders, and covens, who find unity of

> > purpose and intent through their Aryan white supremacist belief

> > system.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 15

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:13:39 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > Thank you..

> >

> > I have always wanted to do astral travel and meet my spiritual gurus to

> > guide me

> > further.. i have always felt them to be with me.. but i want to meet them

> > and seek

> > guidance..whenever i do meditation.. i only see as a light in a cave as my

> > spiritual

> > gurus..

> >

> > i guess i need some relaxation.. shaking is becomeing more as i keep

> > writing and

> > thinking about these things..

> >

> > AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA..

> >

> > anil

> > , "pillai_george"

> > <pillai_george> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > Not to worry,

> > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which goes thru all the

> > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You will feel what

> > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is very normal.Get ready

> > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > >

> > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint Arunagirinathar.

> > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close your eyes.

> > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > >

> > > Om namah shivaya

> > >

> > > Yours

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > > , "anil"

> > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Aum.

> > > >

> > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much energy

> > > within and i am

> > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > > >

> > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..

> > > >

> > > > Need immd help..

> > > >

> > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > >

> > > > rgds

> > > > anil

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 16

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:50:30 -0700 (PDT)

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > Re: Signals

> >

> > Very inspiring.

> > Thanks,

> > Divakar.

> >

> > --- pillai george <pillai_george> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a

> > > small, uninhabited island.

> > >

> > > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and

> > > every day he scanned the horizon for help, but none

> > > seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually managed

> > > to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect

> > > him from the elements, and to store his few

> > > possessions.

> > >

> > > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he

> > > arrived home to find his little hut in flames, the

> > > smoke rolling up to the sky.

> > >

> > > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was

> > > stunned with grief and anger.

> > >

> > > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> > >

> > > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the

> > > sound of a ship that was approaching the island. It

> > > had come to rescue him.

> > >

> > > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man

> > > of his rescuers.

> > >

> > > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> > >

> > > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going

> > > bad. But we shouldn't lose heart, because God is at

> > > work in our lives, even in the midst of pain and

> > > suffering.

> > >

> > > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to

> > > the ground, it just may be a smoke signal that

> > > summons the grace of God.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yours

> > >

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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> > Message: 17

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT)

> > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > Re: Signals

> >

> > dear brother george

> >

> > your mails with various stories are highly inspirational for all devotees,

> > especially for those in distress. please continue your posting such nice

> > lessons whenever time permits you.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> > moderator

> >

> > pillai george <pillai_george> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small, uninhabited

> > island.

> >

> > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he scanned the

> > horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually

> > managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him from the

> > elements, and to store his few possessions.

> >

> > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to find his

> > little hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky.

> >

> > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was stunned with grief and

> > anger.

> >

> > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> >

> > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the sound of a ship that

> > was approaching the island. It had come to rescue him.

> >

> > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his rescuers.

> >

> > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> >

> > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going bad. But we shouldn't

> > lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the midst of pain

> > and suffering.

> >

> > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground, it just may

> > be a smoke signal that summons the grace of God.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours

> >

> > George Pillai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> >

> >

> > Lord shiva

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visit your group "" on the web.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 18

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:05:12 -0700 (PDT)

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > Dear Anil,

> >

> > As we all requested please take some rest and let your

> > body adjust to your new energy. You will surely find

> > your quests but right now you need to take care of

> > your self. in my opinion spiritual journey is a long

> > and arduous.

> >

> > From whatever I have read and personal experience, we

> > can try to contact spiritual guides, but they will get

> > back to us only when they feel the time is right and

> > when we are ready for them, only in a high relaxed

> > state we can see them or communicate with them. you

> > dont have to focus so hard, they will communicate in a

> > simple manner like in your thoughts or dreams or

> > through people or happenings around you, you need an

> > open mind and patience, sometimes you can see then

> > also.

> >

> > Relax and spend time with your family, let your normal

> > life go on as it is, spiritual things happen at a very

> > slow pace, having so many expectations so soon will

> > disappoint you, I am telling this out of my personal

> > experience, things happen but they happen slowly, at

> > the pace God wants not at the pace we want.

> >

> > Relax, Sleepwell, re-joice in life. Keep things

> > simple, all great things in this world are very simple

> > we just dont realize.

> >

> > Regds,

> > Divakar.

> >

> > --- anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> >

> > > Thank you..

> > >

> > > I have always wanted to do astral travel and meet my

> > > spiritual gurus to guide me

> > > further.. i have always felt them to be with me..

> > > but i want to meet them and seek

> > > guidance..whenever i do meditation.. i only see as a

> > > light in a cave as my spiritual

> > > gurus..

> > >

> > > i guess i need some relaxation.. shaking is

> > > becomeing more as i keep writing and

> > > thinking about these things..

> > >

> > > AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA..

> > >

> > > anil

> > > ,

> > > "pillai_george"

> > > <pillai_george> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Anil,

> > > >

> > > > Not to worry,

> > > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which

> > > goes thru all the

> > > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You

> > > will feel what

> > > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is

> > > very normal.Get ready

> > > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > > >

> > > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint

> > > Arunagirinathar.

> > > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close

> > > your eyes.

> > > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > > >

> > > > Om namah shivaya

> > > >

> > > > Yours

> > > > George Pillai

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > "anil"

> > > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Aum.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it

> > > is shaking

> > > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i

> > > feel so much energy

> > > > within and i am

> > > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake

> > > happening..

> > > > >

> > > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating

> > > on my being..

> > > > >

> > > > > Need immd help..

> > > > >

> > > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > > >

> > > > > rgds

> > > > > anil

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Music Unlimited

> > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.

> > http://music./unlimited/

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> >

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> > Message: 19

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:59:18 +0530

> > KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

> > Re: seeking your advice

> >

> > Lakshmi Jee,

> > Please refer Message No: 795 vide Title "Mercury Shiv Lingam" sent by Sh

> > Pillai George for complete details.

> > It costs:

> >

> > 100 gm.INR <http://astroshastra.com/services/articles/parad_art.asp##>

> > 1100

> > USD <http://astroshastra.com/services/articles/parad_art.asp##> 24.46

> > AUM Namah Shivaya

> >

> >

> > On 10/20/05, goodgirllakshmi <goodgirllakshmi> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > > can some one guide me on Silver-Parad Shiv Ling.Its benifits and how to

> > > get and puja procedures

> > > lakshmi

> > >

> > >

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On Sept.20,2005, in another group on

i.e.Hinduism_environment, while putting forward

my views on the issue of "Conversion" I had mentioned

that "....So much so that the Christianity, the priests

would like to convince the masses that the Christ is

the only personal saviour of human beings on this earth

and all the human beings are the sinners.... {Reference:

Foundations of Faith (what the Bible says), page – 64,

Para "Prayer"}". In the same continuation,I had also

mentioned that " Religious leaders belonging to Islam and

Christianity have been considering it as their sacred

duty to attract people of other faiths in order to convert

them by hook or by crook, by means of offering temptations,

by persuasions or even by using force, if so desired."

 

The website which you have mentioned, is a clearcut case

of ongoing effort by some christian group/s to divert

people's faith from Hinduism to Christianity.

 

Vijay Shanker

 

 

 

 

, Vijay Balachandran

<vijayjunior@g...> wrote:

>

> **

> *Attention to all,*

> **

> *Crude remarks have been made on lord shiva and ganash as well in

this

> website, for your kind attention.*

> http://www.themiraclesofjesusministry.org/vision-1-30-05.htm

>

> Regards

> Vijay

> On 20 Oct 2005 22:04:26 -0000,

<

> > wrote:

> >

> >

> > There are 19 messages in this issue.

> >

> > Topics in this digest:

> >

> > 1. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > 2. Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > 3. Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

> > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > 4. Re: mudras

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > 5. Re: God gave me everything

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 6. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 7. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 8. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 9. Mercury Shivalingam

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 10. Body Shaking

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 11. Jokes

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 12. Signals

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > 13. seeking your advice

> > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

> > 14. Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The Three and t...

> > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > 15. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > 16. Re: Signals

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > 17. Re: Signals

> > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > 18. Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > 19. Re: seeking your advice

> > KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

> >

> >

> >

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> > Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:16:20 -0000

> > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> >

> > Dear Anil,

> >

> > Not to worry,

> > Your body as received much cosmic energy which goes thru all the

> > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You will feel what

> > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is very normal.Get

ready

> > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> >

> > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint Arunagirinathar.

> > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close your eyes.

> > Just relax,relax,relax.

> >

> > Om namah shivaya

> >

> > Yours

> > George Pillai

> >

> > , "anil"

> > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > >

> > > Aum.

> > >

> > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much

energy

> > within and i am

> > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > >

> > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..

> > >

> > > Need immd help..

> > >

> > > What is happening to me ??

> > >

> > > rgds

> > > anil

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 2

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:32:39 -0000

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> >

> > Dear members

> > A very good effort from Sri K.S.RAO ji for a noble cause.I am

happy

> > that shiva group is helping the efforts for Ancient Temples

> > Renovation.Let us all come forward help Prof. R. Radhakrishnan by

> > Providing financial support needed for the renovation of

dilapidated

> > ancient temples.

> > With Warm Regards

> > Prasanna kumar

> > om namah shivaya

> >

> >

> >

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> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:45:48 +0100 (BST)

> > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

> >

> > wow what a beautiful krishna

> > thank u

> > sending

> > such photos

> > of lord krishna

> > hare krishna

> > hari om

> >

> > "sairamdoris" <sairamdoris> wrote:

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> > radha rati

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> > ram meet bharat

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> > rama leave home

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> > krishna leaves mathura

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> > King Parikshit meet Sukadeva

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> > vibhisan surrender to rama before battle

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> > vrindaban.com <http://vrindaban.com> / devotional painting

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> > "Why should you fear anything when you have such a Lord of the

universe to

> > take care of you. I do everything for your good." - Baba

> >

> > sairamdoris

> >

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> >

> > Correo

> > Comprueba qué es nuevo, aquí

> > http://correo..es

> >

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> >

> >

> > Visit your group "" on the web.

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> > India Matrimony: Find your partner now.

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> > Message: 4

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:39:04 -0000

> > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > Re: mudras

> >

> > Dear members

> > I am sorry the picture in the message is not being displayed .Pls

refer

> > Our photo section for Mudras connected to the message.

> > Regards

> > prasanna

> >

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> > Message: 5

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:41:34 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: God gave me everything

> >

> > BEAUTIFUL..

> >

> > HARI OM

> > anil

> > , pillai george <

> > pillai_george@y.

> > ..> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Peace

> > > He Showed Me How to Help Others

> > >

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Strength

> > > He Gave Me Difficult Situations to Face

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Brain

> > > He Gave Me Puzzles in Life to Solve

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Happiness

> > > He Showed Me Some Unhappy People

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Wealth

> > > He Showed Me How to Work Hard

> > >

> > > When I Asked God for Favors

> > > He Showed Me Opportunities to Work Harder

> > >

> > > God Gave Me Nothing I Wanted

> > > He Gave Me Everything I Needed

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yours

> > >

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Meet your soulmate!

> > > Asia presents Meetic - where millions of singles gather

> > >

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> > Message: 6

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:48:29 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > My unconditional love to you and i bow to GOD within you..

> >

> > i feel OK.

> >

> > Aum Namah Shivaya namah Om.. chating is still ON inside me..

> >

> > AUM

> >

> > anil

> >

> > , KS Rao

<kasturisrao@g...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Sh. Arun,

> > > Do not worry, it is accumulation of more positive energy in one

of the

> > > chakras which got opened up. I have passed on Reiki energy to

earth

> > excess

> > > enrgy as you wished to have immediate help. In case of any need

you may

> > > contact me on my mobile

> > > KS Rao,

> > > Navi Mumbai

> > > Cell: 93242 94531

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > This is NarasimhaRao, I have 2+ years of exp. as java

developer. Here I

> > am

> > > forwarding my cv.Plz go through this and let me know the

details.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > J.Narasimharao

> > > 09867230696

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 10/19/05, anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > >

> > > > it started after i felt tremors due to earth quake in the

morning.. i

> > live

> > > > on 14th floor in

> > > > gurgaon..

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > anil

> > > > , Mahapratibhawan

> > <branko.

> > > > ivatovic@g...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Anil,

> > > > > This is start spontaneous or after emotional shock?

> > > > > If your body not stop shaking please connect me direct to

email.

> > > > > If you have best concentration please concentrate to point

between

> > eyes

> > > > and

> > > > > up from this line on the forehead. Repeat heartily Om Namah

Shivaya

> > (O

> > > > God

> > > > > all is Yours nothing My). Shavasana is perfect because is

very easy

> > > > energy

> > > > > flow through Sushumna, but not good send any energy through

> > Sushumna! If

> > > > you

> > > > > can't see inner light or bindu and haven't inner sound

(inner smell,

> > > > taste,

> > > > > touch) better not practice any technique because you

without any

> > sign

> > > > > consciousness (Kunadalini Shakti or Para Shakti), only one

from

> > Prana

> > > > Shakti

> > > > > go through you ida, pingala, sushumna or any nadi. Then

shavasana or

> > > > > makarasana is perfect for you. Only full relax.

> > > > > Best in any cases Maha mantra: He Prabho Praseed Aum - O

God Bless

> > (My)

> > > > Soul

> > > > > - without blessing we can't do nothing. Writing is better

then

> > > > repeating. 2

> > > > > x 108 repeat or 1008 times writes.

> > > > > My God Bless You

> > > > > Mahapratibhawan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 10/19/05, anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Aum.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > sideways,

> > > > L-R,

> > > > > > sometimes

> > > > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so

much energy

> > > > within

> > > > > > and i am

> > > > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my

being..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Need immd help..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > anil

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lord shiva</gads?

> > > > t=ms&k=Lord+shiva&w1=Lord+shiva&c=1&s=16&.

> > > > sig=OAeTVpNdu4gIgpXCJOVmEQ>

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> > sig=OAeTVpNdu4gIgpXCJOVmEQ>

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> > Message: 7

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:45:37 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > Shiva within me BOWS to yours.

> >

> > I have realized that saying in Bhagwat Gita when Lord Krishna

says that i

> > remain in all

> > and so remaining i worhship myself..

> >

> > I must have been very very lucky to have got blessing from all

members of

> > this group

> > ..

> >

> > Thanks a lot..

> >

> > i m feeling OK now..

> >

> > regards

> > anil

> > , "prasanna kumar"

> > <prasannakumar21@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear esteem members

> > > I wish to help Mr anilji let us all together pray from him,so

that i

> > > can be back to normal.Today i have pray for him ,i hope other

also help

> > > him in this regard.

> > > with warm Regards

> > > Prasanna

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 8

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:58:19 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > Thank you..

> >

> > By grace of GOD..one seller from Nepal has offered me a Rudraksha

Mala

> > 3-14 Mukhi

> > + GS + Ganaesha...and he wrote that he himself does not know why

he is

> > offering so

> > huge discount..also he will get the mala energized at

Pashupatinath

> > Temple..i have

> > visited that temple 18 years back..

> >

> > Saab Gorakh ki maya aur Marji hai..

> >

> > you are right, i need rest..as i am writing this email.. my body

is still

> > shaking ..to realize

> > oneself as GOD..one gets so much of the GODDISH energy.. that now

i

> > know..it is

> > very difficult for an ordinary person like me to even face it..

> >

> > this morning i meditated as Shiva..it is all by HIS grace..he has

chosen

> > me to express

> > myself well.. this is the purpose of my life in this re-

incarnation and

> > this forum has

> > helped me a lot..to share my feelings..

> >

> > Thanks to moderators for giving me an invitation to join this

group..

> >

> > Aum

> >

> > anil

> > , Divakara Tanjore

<div_tan@y

> > ...

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > This excess energy will generate a lot of heat in your

> > > body, keep drinking a lot of water and fluids, just

> > > relax and do things which you like for a few days,

> > > dont exert your self doing a lot of mantra chanting,

> > > as long as you have compassion and love in you heart

> > > Lord shiva will always love you, you need plenty of

> > > rest.

> > >

> > > Once your body adjusts to this energy you will be a

> > > changed person spiritually, you can do more of Lord

> > > Shiva's work, for now just relax and let the energy

> > > ground itself.

> > >

> > > Enjoy your self and by joyous.

> > > Om namah shivaya,

> > > Regds,

> > > Divakar.

> > >

> > > --- prasanna kumar <prasannakumar21@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear esteem members

> > > > I wish to help Mr anilji let us all together pray

> > > > from him,so that i

> > > > can be back to normal.Today i have pray for him ,i

> > > > hope other also help

> > > > him in this regard.

> > > > with warm Regards

> > > > Prasanna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 9

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:00:24 +0800 (CST)

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Mercury Shivalingam

> >

> >

> > Dear Bro's and Sister's,

> >

> >

> >

> > An Article that attracts me at Rudra Centre.

> >

> > www.rudraksha-ratna.com <http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com>

> >

> >

> >

> > He who worships Mercury Shivalingam devotedly, whether one is

male or

> > female, Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra gets full worldly

pleasures, and

> > at last attains supreme destination (salvation). During life-span

they get

> > glory, honour, high office, name and fame, sons, grandsons and

perfection in

> > learning. At last they get salvation. The virtue got by seeing

the Twelve

> > Jyotirlingas is received only by looking at the Mercury

Shivalinga. The

> > chance to look at it is possible only when the worshipper's

virtues of

> > previous births come to light. By worshipping the Mercury

Shivalingas, the

> > worshipper gets the fruits which are attained only by worshipping

> > Shivalingas which are situated in three Lokas (cosmic worlds).

> >

> >

> >

> > Complete with 8 Sanskaars(8 stage of Purifications done as per

Parad

> > Sanmhita) and removal of Saptakanchuki(100 % medicated and

hygienic); the

> > Siddha Parad(Mercury mouth closed with Aghor Vidhya) is formed to

make

> > Murthi-Badhha/Agnibadha(sustain the heat) Shiva lingam.

> >

> > Prepared by Ayurvedic methods as written in ancient scriptures.

Made out

> > of Siddh Parad/Mercury and rare herbs. The Shivling contains no

other metal

> > except Mercury. It can be made to powder by crushing and as well

can be

> > turned in to the Pure Mercury form by heating to the very high

temperature

> > comply with the Parad Sanmhita. The Extract from this Shivling

gives 24 Ras

> > and 5 Tatva which removes all diseases in the body. To have a

Shiva lingam

> > made from Parad/Mercury, one must be blessed through good karmic

deeds of

> > past lives.

> >

> >

> >

> > Pandit Shree Deenanathji mades it for Rudra centre.

> >

> >

> >

> > Brief about Panditji Shree Deenanathji

> >

> >

> > Born in Aug 1938 in a small village named Nadbai, in the district

of

> > Bharatpur (Rajasthan), Pundit Shree Dinanathji was highly

inclined to learn

> > the secrets of Ayurveda. To fulfill his keen desire to learn the

science of

> > Ayurveda especially the Parad/Mercury, he joined the ashram of

Saint Shree

> > Nirmalandji Chaitanya Brahmachai in 1971 to study mercury

science. His

> > ashram was in southern corner of Narmada river.

> >

> > Later he did his research and development on mercury at many holy

places

> > of India namely Omkareshwar, Amarkantak, Haridwar, Hrishikesh,

Pushkar,

> > Badrinath, Gangotri and Jamnotri. 40 years ago he opened a

Ayurvedic medical

> > research centre in Dosa district near Jaipur. Now he is in Jaipur

since last

> > 20 years running a medical centre which provides facilities for

treatment of

> > asthma, blood pressure, liver, diabetes, skin, gastritis,

rheumatism,

> > arthritis, thyroid related problems.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours

> >

> > George Pillai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> >

> > [This message contained attachments]

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 10

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:41:37 +0800 (CST)

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Body Shaking

> >

> > Dear Anil ji,

> >

> > Your body have received abundant cosmic energy. Body shake is

very normal

> > at this situation. The cosmic energy will pass thru 72000 nadi's

to activate

> > your chakras. After the third eye opening get yourself ready to

go on a

> > Astral journey. It will be a wonderful experience (soul) seeing

your own

> > body.

> >

> > Lord Subramaniam told Saint Arunagirinathar to

> >

> > Just sit quietly, close your eye, don't think anything or chant

any

> > mantra's.

> > Just Relax,relax,relax.

> >

> > You will become a "Miraculous Creator"

> >

> > Yours

> > George Pillai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Meet your soulmate!

> > Asia presents Meetic - where millions of singles gather

> >

> > [This message contained attachments]

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 11

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:15:55 +0800 (CST)

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Jokes

> >

> >

> > This story was sent by a Yogi from Switzerland who founded the

Geneva

> > Sivananda Yoga Center.

> >

> > The Swiss, as we all know, tend to be placid people. Some go as

far as

> > claiming that we are occasionnally somewhat slow.

> >

> >

> > Three Swiss monks of the benedictine order were meditating high

in the

> > Alps. Suddenly, a beautiful milk cow walked by.

> >

> >

> > The first monk said : "HHHMMM, this is Fritz's cow, I tell you".

> > Half an hour later, the second monk said : " HHHMMM, really that

was

> > Kurt's cow. I'm quite sure".

> >

> >

> > An other half hour later, the third Swiss monk stood up and

said "I'm

> > going away, I can't stand you guys having an argument around me

when I'm

> > trying to meditate"....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours

> >

> > George Pillai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> >

> > [This message contained attachments]

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 12

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:05:01 +0800 (CST)

> > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > Signals

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small,

uninhabited

> > island.

> >

> > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he

scanned the

> > horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he

eventually

> > managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him

from the

> > elements, and to store his few possessions.

> >

> > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to

find his

> > little hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky.

> >

> > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was stunned with

grief and

> > anger.

> >

> > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> >

> > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the sound of a

ship that

> > was approaching the island. It had come to rescue him.

> >

> > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his

rescuers.

> >

> > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> >

> > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going bad. But we

shouldn't

> > lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the

midst of pain

> > and suffering.

> >

> > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground, it

just may

> > be a smoke signal that summons the grace of God.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours

> >

> > George Pillai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> >

> > [This message contained attachments]

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 13

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:32:57 -0000

> > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

> > seeking your advice

> >

> > Dear members

> > can some one guide me on Silver-Parad Shiv Ling.Its benifits and

how to

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> > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The Three and t...

> >

> > I replied to this once and for some strange reason my reply was

not

> > posted; so I reply here again.....

> > , "saidevo"

> > <saidevo> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear JCsharanananda Ji,

> > >

> > > 1. In my limited familiarity, I have not read anywhere in

> > > Theosophical literature that Theosophy favours fair-skinned

> > > and condemns dark-skinned. ...

> > > 2. I think Theosophy has nothing to do with the Aryan Invasion

> > > or Aryan Supremacy Theory that the British and Nazis populated.

> > > The AIT has lately been discounted by the BBC as its Website

> > > says. If you think otherwise, please indicate a source that

> > > says that Theosophy favours the 'Aryans', the fair-skinned.

> >

> > > 3. However, it should be admitted that Theosophy favours

> > > Buddhism more than Hinduism, which may be because of the rituals

> > > in our religion. ....

> > > 4. My personal impression is that as Theosophy gains more and

> > > more acceptance in the New Age, there is a danger that the

> > > modern theosophists might present the timeless concepts of

> > > Vedatanta as those originated in the West. ........

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > saidevo

> >

> > you can find much on the nazis and their interest in theosophy.

> > anyone who has an even limited knowledge of this sees that the

nazis

> > used the swastika. their arayan theories were inspired by

theosophy

> > and varna. on a side note the nazis went to tibet on an expedition

> > to measure the cranial structures of the tibetans to see if they

were

> > partially arayan.

> > amyone with a search engine could type in "nazi theosophy" and

come

> > to several references. I found it out from history text books in

> > school.

> > for those who are unable to look at their search engines or

history

> > books....here are a few reference materials that might provoke

> > further study.....

> >

> > While on the surface the members of the third Reich looked like

they

> > had mostly political aims, they actually harbored many extreme and

> > dangerous "religious" and mythological views, which in time they

> > hoped to bring to the forefront of Germany. Hitler and his

followers

> > were fascinated by occultism and psychical research. One such

> > fascination was with the teachings of a Mme Blavatsky, around the

> > late 1800s early 1900s in a school of thought now called Theosophy

> > Theosophy was a conglomeration of teachings including occultism,

> > research into ghosts and paranormal phenomena, and an extensive

> > philosophical/religious base often based upon mythology, the

gnostic

> > new testament, a sort of 'Atlantean cult" and "Alexandrian"

> > teachings.1

> >

> > While the term can be applied generically to a group of

philosophies:

> >

> >

> > "...Gr: knowledge of things divine, fr. ? wise in the things of

God;

> > God + wise: cf. F. th['e]osophie.] Any system of philosophy or

> > mysticism which proposes to attain intercourse with God and

superior

> > spirits, and consequent superhuman knowledge, by physical

processes,

> > as by the theurgic operations of some ancient Platonists, or by

the

> > chemical processes of the German fire philosophers; also, a

direct,

> > as distinguished from a revealed, knowledge of God, supposed to be

> > attained by extraordinary illumination; especially, a direct

insight

> > into the processes of the divine mind, and the interior relations

of

> > the divine nature.(Webster 1913) or

> > more recently: Medieval Latin theosophia, from Late Greek, from

Greek

> > the- + sophia wisdom -- more at -SOPHY 1 : teaching about God and

the

> > world based on mystical insight 2 often capitalized : the

teachings

> > of a modern movement originating in the U.S. in 1875 and following

> > chiefly Buddhist and Brahmanic theories especially of pantheistic

> > evolution and reincarnation (Miriam Webster online)

> >

> >

> > , the movement and current rendering of Theosophy is primarily

> > identified with the works of Blavatsky and cohorts around the

turn of

> > the century.

> > Part and parcel to the philosophy was the belief that one day, the

> > race of superior human beings who inhabited the semi-mythical Lost

> > City of Atlantis would reappear, through the superior Aryan

peoples.

> > They also argued that there have been successions of 'root races"

and

> > that we are in the 5th root of 7. When the 7th arrives, it will be

> > equated with power and perfection. A beginning, inferior race

which

> > they equated with the Hebrews of History found in the Bible would

be

> > utter replaced, and necessarily for the more advanced to take

hold.

> > Blavatsky and others believed that as the human race evolved,

> > the 'superior' race would find its place by supplanting this

earlier

> > root race. A Utopia in Theosophy would only come about eventually

as

> > an evolved, genetically superior persons descended from the

> > Atlanteans would take hold, displacing a people they identified as

> > the Jews and other inferior races. This new superior race was

aligned

> > with and akin to Hitler's concept of the "Master Race". Hitler,

> > Himmler and other Inner Circle members ascribed to these

> > philosophies, although they kept them secret from the general

German

> > public earlier in the war. The Eugenicists of the time, funded and

> > endorsed by the Third Reich, active both in Europe and in America

> > thought to apply their pseudo-science to the controlled advent of

> > this end.

> >

> > Among Blavatsky's early circle of followers who met for study and

> > seances, were the author Arthur Conan Doyle, and Westcott & Hort,

the

> > re-translators of the Bible version Revised Standard 2.

Blavatsky's

> > influence was widely felt, not only in certain philosophies

adhered

> > to by the Third Reich, but in the development of what is now

referred

> > to as "New Age" philosophies. Westcott and Hort and others of her

> > followers helped found a society to study ghosts,3 which later

became

> > the Society for Psychical Research, which is still extant, and

> > studies many instances of paranormal phenomena.

> >

> > Warning Signs of Root Race Theory

> > I. Frequent mention of Atlantis,the descendants of Atlantis, or

the

> > recently discovered "ruins of Atlantis" (not proven to be from

> > Atlantis)note

> > II. Notions of Racial Superiority, or one race having

characteristics

> > nearing perfection.

> >

> > III. A Replacement Race Ideas expressed about the 'replacement'

of a

> > final race over earlier more primitive races.

> >

> > IV.Final Race War: A more estoteric mention of a philsophy held by

> > Himmler called 'Volkeschaos" or "the peoples/nations Chaos"

referring

> > to an end time final war (like Armaggedon, but not the same) in

which

> > all races or ethnic groups hold a final bloody battle, resulting

in

> > Victory for a Master Race.

> >

> > V. Talk of Philosophy and Religion as a mix, using the

> > term "Theosophy" as a religious term instead of directly

referring to

> > it as a separate belief system.

> >

> > Root Race theory is not a 'religious group" but a quasi-doctrine,

> > which may be adapted to many belief systems. The two main places

it

> > is found are in Theosophy, where it forms the foundation for the

> > overall view of the course of mankind, and in White Aryanism or

> > Nazism, where it is used as motivation for racial cleansing or

> > purifying. The belief that a Master Race must emerge replacing

lesser

> > races, motivated the Nazis to Endlosung or the "Final Solution" of

> > the 'Jewish Problem' which translated into the mass extermination

of

> > the Jews of Europe.

> >

> > Blavatsky's Polarian Race (The First Root Race)

> > Blavatsky's account of evolution, like those of her successors, is

> > anthropocentric, pertaining to the evolution of man, not of the

> > Earth. But it is an evolution extended out through cycles of

cosmic

> > evolution, into the cosmos, so it is not just an anthropology,

but a

> > cosmology as well. She speaks of human evolution in terms of a

> > number of Root-Races, each of which existed for a while before

being

> > replaced by the next. The early Root-Races were not even physical

at

> > all, but vast, amorphous, etheric beings.

> >

> > "The First Root-Race, i.e. the first "men" on earth (irrespective

of

> > form) were the progeny of the "celestial men"...in Indian

philosophy

> > the "Lunar Ancestors" or the Pitris, of which there are seven

classes

> > or Hierarchies" [p.74]

> > Unlike Judeo-Christianity, in Blavatsky's cosmology, "man" is the

> > creation of higher spiritual hierarchies, but not of "God". They

are

> > described as the astral Shadows of the Progenitors [p.181,

188], "so

> > ethereal and so little human in constitution they could not be

> > affected by any elements - flood or fire" [p.181].

> >

> > Just as the Polarians are themselves non-physical, so was

> > the "continent" upon which they dwelled. It is referred to as

> > the "Imperishable Sacred Land", which did not "share the fate of

the

> > other continents" [p.152] (i.e. to be destroyed at the end of the

> > era).

> >

> > The Polarians reproduced through fission, as the amoeba does today

> > [p.189]. They "were devoid of all understanding (mind,

intelligence,

> > and will)." [p.188]. They were "ethereal, a-sexual, and even

> > devoid...of desire" [p.176]. The individuals of this Race did not

> > actually die. Instead, they "melted gradually away, becoming

> > absorbed in the bodies of their own "sweat-born" progeny (the

Second

> > Race), more solid than their own." [p.179].

> >

> > Blavatsky's thesis that our distant progenitors were gigantic

etheric

> > amoebas may seem incredible at first, but support comes from a

rather

> > unexpected quarter: a UFO researcher, Trevor James Constable, who

> > photographed unusual UFO phenomena using infra-red film in an

> > otherwise ordinary camera.

> >

> > Blavatsky's Polarian Root Race, and even the term "Polarian", was

> > adopted with little modification by Rudolph Steiner

> >

> > and from wikipedia a note....

> >

> > Overview

> > Nazi mysticism is a volkish initiation with roots in the Thule

> > society and theosophy, as well as the racist ideas of Arthur de

> > Gobineau. Guido von List and Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels were

important

> > figures ........

> >

> > .....Research and expeditions

> > A great deal of time and resources were spent on researching or

> > creating a popularly accepted "historical", "cultural"

> > and "scientific" background so the ideas about a "superior" Aryan

> > race could prosper in the German society of the time. Mystical

> > organizations such as the Thule Society, Schwarze Sonne, Vrill

> > Society and others were created, usually connected with elite SS

> > corps, and adopting specific rituals, initiations and beliefs.

> >

> > Expeditions in Tibet, Nepal, Greece, the Arctic, and

Neuschwabenland

> > in Antarctica were organized in the search for the

mythical "Aryan"

> > nation of Hyperborea, whose capital, Ultima Thule was supposedly

> > built by the extraterrestrial ancestors of the "Aryan races" who

came

> > from the star Aldebaran, according to some of the "Aryan"

theories.

> >

> > A German expedition to Tibet was organized in order to search for

the

> > origins of the Aryan race. To this end, the expedition leader,

Ernst

> > Schäfer, had his anthropologist Bruno Beger make face masks and

skull

> > and nose measurements.

> >

> > Similar expeditions were organized in the pursuit of semi-mythical

> > objects believed to bring power or granting special powers to

their

> > owner, such as the Holy Grail and the Spear of Destiny.

> >

> > again, anyone with access to a history book, library or search

engine

> > can easy read very much on this topic, its not some dusty secret

> > hidden away.

> >

> > now as to your new age idea and support of theosophy, thats a

matter

> > of opinion and personal conscience. it pains me though that you

> > would be so quick to forgive a movement that was championed by

adolph

> > hitler and other racists and new agers. It pains me because we are

> > brothers under mahadev. please read more and keep open mind before

> > defending these new age movements. kali yuga has long long long

time

> > left. the vaishnavas and shaivites of traditional lineages are in

> > agreement on this. and traditional buddhists believe that coming

of

> > maitreya is a long long time away.

> > if one wants to read alot, that is those who have lots of time on

> > their hands they can read blavatsky herself here.....The Secret

> > Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky

> >

> > here is a little more..... The Secret History

> >

> > The Secret History's most important figures are perhaps self-

> > proclaimed Russian mystic Madame Helena Blavatsky and her American

> > husband Colonel Henry Olcott. The result of their collaboration

would

> > thrust the world into the abyss and cost the lives of millions.

> >

> > Their Theosophy ideology became popular amongst the middle

classes in

> > Germany at the end of the 1800's, mostly because of its

introduction

> > to Eastern religious and mystical ideas. Blavatsky claimed to have

> > been party to revelations from Hidden Masters called the "Great

White

> > Brotherhood" who resided somewhere in the Himalayas. But Blavatsky

> > later admitted in letters to her sister that this was a codename

for

> > the Rosicrucian hierarchy who funded her. It is clear her work is

> > influenced, if not sourced, in the work of Masonic demagogue

General

> > Albert Pike - the American South's Sovereign Grand Commander of

the

> > Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry,

> > Civil War war criminal, and leading member of the Ku Klux Klan -

who

> > revealed Rosicrucian/Masonic doctrine and its "Aryan heritage" in

his

> > unpublished pamphlet Morals & Dogma (1871) that was distributed to

> > Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret (32nd degree) Scottish Rite

> > initiates.

> >

> > Albert Pike is regarded as bringing "order out of chaos" by

rewriting

> > the ancient rites of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, formerly devised

by

> > groups in France including the Council of the Emperors of the East

> > and West (now known as the European Council of Princes) and the

Royal

> > Stewart's Chapter of Clermont, based at the College of the

Jesuits,

> > Paris in 1761. Pike modernized these rituals for the modern

American

> > leader, and explained their Aryan source and meaning in Morals &

> > Dogma and numerous other works. At this time Pike was head of the

> > Supreme Council of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, based in Charleston,

> > South Carolina, and following the Civil War and dropped charges of

> > treason against Pike, the Supreme Council moved to Washington DC.

> >

> > Blavatsky's breakthrough book The Secret Doctrine (1888) was an

> > attempt to popularize the racist concepts of Rosicrucian belief

at a

> > time of great change and turmoil. America was recovering from the

> > Civil War, and the abolition of Slavery was forcing a

redefinition of

> > the West's perception of Race. The radical decision to reveal the

> > beliefs of the power elite came at a time when desperate measures

> > seemed necessary. The Priory of Sion within the Royal Houses of

> > Europe and various occult circles were attempting to create a

> > movement with their Synarchy ideology, a politicized form of

> > Rosicrucian dogma. Synarchy advocated government by secret

society -

> > an elite of enlightened initiates who rule from behind the scenes.

> > This found expression through the writings of Joseph Saint-Yves

> > d'Alveydre, which called for the infiltration of "the three key

> > pillars of society... political and social institutions, economic

> > institutions, and religious institutions". The infamous Protocols

of

> > the Learned Elders of Sion (commonly known by its Old English

> > variant "Zion") are clearly some form of manifesto for the

> > implementation of Synarchy's aims, and are signed by

> > the "representatives of Sion of the 33rd degree". Not

surprisingly,

> > the content of the Protocols have much similarity to Albert Pike's

> > central work Morals and Dogma. Synarchy was opposed to ideas of

> > democracy and social equality, as only the Synarchists were

> > the "natural leaders".

> >

> > As the masses of Europe were rising up rebelliously against their

> > feudal overlords, the Holy Roman Empire was in disarray. The First

> > Reich, founded in 800 by the 'Emperor of the West' Charlemagne,

had

> > been smashed by Napoleon following the French Revolution. With

> > Napoleon's eventual defeat, the Holy Roman Empire reformed in a

> > weakened and splintered state. Prussia/Germany took the former

> > Gnostic Cathar regions of Lorraine and Alsace back from

revolutionary

> > France, and established the Second Empire under Kaiser Wilhelm I.

He

> > was allied with the Austrian-Hungarian-Croatian Empire, which was

> > still under the control of the Grail bloodline House of Habsburg,

who

> > had been ruling for the previous 600 years. Power was still very

> > much in the hands of the Princes of Europe and the Vatican, who

found

> > unity within their occult "Secret Church" that has historically

> > always existed behind the "Visible Church".

> >

> > Theosophy was born in 1875, a key time of political upheavals

> > throughout Europe, as Russia was moving towards revolution,

following

> > the examples set by America and France. The Theosophy movement was

> > an attempt to occultize the newly emerging industrial and merchant

> > class and provide a spiritual antidote to Marxism straight from

the

> > Rosicrucian philosophy that previously had been for hand-picked

> > initiates only. The Grail aristocratic families of the Holy Roman

> > Empire were planning to reunify the old territories and needed the

> > control and support of the managing classes. It is no coincidence

> > that their plan to "infiltrate Freemasonry and seize absolute

control

> > of the Western World's social, political and economic

institutions"

> > as outlined in the Protocols of Sion appeared simultaneously with

the

> > Synarchy ideology and the creation of Madame Blavatsky's Theosophy

> > movement. As the Protocols stress "Our philosophers will discuss

all

> > the shortcomings of the various beliefs of the manipulated. But

no-

> > one will ever bring under discussion our faith from its true

point of

> > view since this will be fully learned by none save ours who will

> > never dare betray its secrets".

> >

> > At the turn of the 20th century this agenda was again outlined in

the

> > Priory of Sion's Hieron du Val D'Or that described "a theocracy

> > wherein nations will be no more than provinces, their leaders but

> > proconsuls in the service of a world occult government consisting

of

> > an elite. This regime of the Great King will be a double hegemony

of

> > the Papacy and the Empire, of the Vatican and of the Habsburgs".

> > This ambitious scheme was thwarted with the assassination of the

> > Habsburg heir Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria in 1914, an

event

> > that ignited the First World War.

> >

> > Theosophy's teachings about enlightened mystics guiding human

> > evolution towards the creation of a higher super-race, and pseudo-

> > theories about the ancient Aryan civilization of Atlantis,

promoted

> > dangerous racial theories that formed the core of Austrian and

German

> > anti-Semitism.

> >

> > From an aristocratic background, Helena Blavatsky, the widow of

> > Russian Army General Count Blavatsky, designed elaborate genetic

> > family trees that clearly illustrated the superiority of the Aryan

> > people over the other races of the world. These strange beliefs

were

> > heralded by middle class occultists throughout Germany and

Austria-

> > Hungary and merged with their extreme right-wing nationalist

> > politics. Hence, complete reunification of the Holy Roman Empire,

> > effectively abolished by Napoleon in 1806, became a priority not

only

> > of the ruling aristocracies, but also of the merchant middle

classes.

> >

> > The ensuing horrors of the First World War was an attempt to take

> > France from the democratic Republicans by a vengeful aristocracy

who

> > had seen their brethren murdered by the French revolution. The new

> > middle-class occultists such as Guido von List and his Armanen

Order,

> > Baron von Sebottendorf and his Thule Society, and Lanz von

Liebenfels

> > and the Order of the New Templars refered to the First World War

as a

> > Holy War, revealing the quasi-religious and philosophical motives

of

> > their Hidden Masters. It has been documented that Nazi party

leaders

> > Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Rudolph Hess and Hermann Goering

were

> > all members of these occult secret societies. The Protocols of the

> > Learned Elders of Sion and the Hieron du Val d'Or are proof that a

> > conspiracy of epic proportions was at play behind the broader

> > political scene.

> >

> > The end of the First World War resulted in Kaiser Wilhelm I being

> > banished to Belgium and the removal of the Habsburgs from the

throne

> > of the Second Empire--the global "hegemony of Great King and Pope"

> > was delayed. The Habsburg's reluctant abdication was upon the

> > insistence of the Allied nations and their Treaty of St. Germaine.

> > Incidentally, the Order of St. Germaine is the French Royal

Stewart

> > equivalent of the Habsburg's Order of Sion (each laying claim to

> > genetic superiority and Kingship of Jerusalem) - such is the

secret

> > subtext of European war and politics. The magickally relevant

> > regions of Alsace and Lorraine were promptly returned to the

Republic

> > of France through the Treaty of Versailles, which not so much

> > infuriated a young Hitler, as his aristocratic Hidden Masters

behind

> > the curtain. While their agenda had brutally backfired, the Great

> > White Brotherhood were by no means beaten, and a simple reversal

of

> > the truth (a common propaganda technique) would lead them ever

closer

> > to their goal, and introduce the world to perhaps their greatest

spin

> > doctor.

> >

> > In his popular book Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler conveniently used the

> > Protocols of the Elders of Sion to deceptively "prove" that a

global

> > conspiracy was afoot - but led by the League of Jewish Rabbis.

This

> > stirred massive anti-Semitism that ultimately justified the

Holocaust

> > to the German people. Earlier in 1919, the newly formed Thule

> > Society had distributed copies of the controversial Protocols to

> > troops of the White Russian army loyal to the Czar, in an attempt

to

> > blame the Jews for the ensuing Revolution. This led to the

massacre

> > of 60,000 Jews over two years, and was perhaps the beginning of

the

> > Jewish Holocaust. The Rosicrucian Protocols document is still used

> > by neo-Nazi groups throughout the world to stir anti-Semitism and

> > hate. Even today Rebublican David Duke promotes these same anti-

> > Semitic theories on his popular website and continues to blame the

> > Russian Revolution on the Jewish people, regardless of the

historical

> > oppression of the Russian people that motivated this conflict. The

> > fact that Jerusalem's Mount Sion/Zion is prophesied (according to

St.

> > John's Revelation) as the place of the Second Coming of Jesus

Christ

> > is conveniently ignored by these right-wing groups. As is the fact

> > that the premier secret organization dedicated to this Second

Coming,

> > albeit through a complex and conflicted view of genetic bloodlines

> > and reactionary socio-political models, is the Priory of Sion.

> >

> > Although thought by many academics to be a creation of Russian

Czar

> > Nicholas II's secret police, to those aware of occult references

the

> > Protocols of Sion clearly show the hand of the Grail/Dragon

> > sovereignty. It is likely the Czarists altered the texts to

include

> > traditional Jewish terminology that otherwise has no place in

what is

> > obviously a Rosicrucian agenda with Jesuit undertones.

> >

> > The Yiddish word "Goyim" (meaning Gentile) has been inserted in as

> > many places as possible, even in places grammatically

inappropriate.

> > Written in a tone of lofty superiority, echoed in the contemporary

> > writings of Nicholas De Vere, the masses are refered to throughout

> > as "the Mob", "bloodthirsty beasts", "alcoholized animals"

> > and "cattle". Passages such as "From the premier-dictators of the

> > day the peoples suffer greatly and bear such abuses, as for the

least

> > of them they would have beheaded twenty kings... unification must

be

> > achieved only under our Sovereign rule", clearly reveal an

embittered

> > post-French Revolution power elite planning to restore the "King

of

> > the blood of Sion whom we are preparing for the World".

> >

> > Also overlooked in the analysis of the Protocols is their

similarity

> > to the little heard of "Secret Instructions of the Society of

Jesus",

> > which outline a goal of bringing in a golden age or millenium with

> > the entire world under the authority of the Pope to enable the

Second

> > Coming of Jesus Christ. Indeed, the Jesuits' Secret Instructions

> > could be considered a prototype of the Protocols of Sion with its

> > rhetoric of subterfuge such as "We must inculcate this doctrine

with

> > Kings and Princes, that the Catholic faith cannot exist in the

> > present state, without politics; but that in this, it is

necessary to

> > proceed with much certainty. Of this mode, we must share the

> > affection of the great, and be admitted to the most secret

> > councils."

> >

> > "We must be careful to change our politics, conforming to the

times,

> > and excite the Princes, friends of ours to mutually make terrible

> > wars that everywhere the mediation of the Society will be

implored;

> > that we may be employed in the public reconciliation... the

Society

> > afterwards can count on the favor and authority of the Princes,

> > procuring that those who do not love us shall fear us."

> >

> > Discovered towards the end of the Holy Roman Empire's Thirty Year

War

> > with itself that resulted in France being given part of Alsace and

> > Lorraine (only to be later reclaimed by the Second and Third

Empires)

> > and cities ruined and millions dead, the Jesuits' Secret

Instructions

> > clearly are an inspirational source for the Protocols of Sion,

which

> > would be written 200 years later following the formation of

Ancient &

> > Accepted Scottish Rite Freemasonry. With passages such as "If the

> > Pope should return as temporal prince of all the properties; for

as

> > much as it is very necessary to extend little by little, with much

> > secrecy and skill, the temporalities of the Society; and not

having

> > any doubt that the world will enter the Golden Age" there can be

no

> > doubt that The Protocols of the Elders of Sion are the work of the

> > Jesuits, the European Council of Princes, and their Rosicrucian

> > allies within 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasonry. As outlined

in

> > the final Protocol "Confirming the roots of King David and the

> > training of the King", the Grail/Christ bloodline conspirators

insist

> > that "sensuality worse than all else disorganizes the capacities

of

> > the mind and clearness of views" and should not be a quality of

their

> > King - thus denying any instinctive connection to his humanity in

> > true Jesuit and Rosicrucian style. There is little in Judaism

about

> > the repressing of the senses in order to achieve any kind of

kinghood.

> >

> > Following the widespread distribution of the Protocols by the

Thule

> > Society and Hitler's protege Alfred Rosenberg, it was the

> > added "Jewish" elements that were seized upon by Hitler's Mein

Kampf

> > and Henry Ford's The International Jew. Conveniently both of these

> > fervantly anti-Semitic works chose to ignore the Rosicrucian

> > references of the Protocols, and the fact that the "Return of the

> > King" agenda is not traditionally Jewish or a historical goal of

> > Jewish Zionism, but the secret goal of the

Catholic/Rosicrucian/Grail

> > elites. Perhaps the popularization of the altered Protocols was an

> > attempt at damage control, and a pointing of the finger away from

the

> > true authors, as their actual neo-feudalistic agenda was becoming

> > known by political and occult scholars. Or something even more

> > nefarious: "It is hardly credible that the baddies would reveal

their

> > fell purposes so blatantly", commented Foucault's Pendulum author

> > Umberto Eco on the current recycling of the Protocols within

popular

> > culture and the disturbing rise of "crude forms of racism of the

neo-

> > Celtic kind" -- and yet the use of the Protocols was the primary

> > justification for the Holocaust and the attempted annihilation of

the

> > Jews, who are regarded as the historical "perfidious Enemy" of

both

> > Jesuit and Rosicrucian elites.

> >

> > Hitler's Third Empire would go one step further than Theosophy,

> > taking Rosicrucian and Occult theories directly to the working

class

> > people of Germany, and openly running the country according to

their

> > principles. Their use of Rosicrucian symbolism, the Swastika, the

> > Nuremberg rallies/rituals, and inner occult orders within

> > Himmler's "SS", who like the Knights of Malta and Dragon Court

> > insisted upon a long heritage of pure Aryan blood before

initiation,

> > clearly illustrates how linked National Socialism was with the

secret

> > agenda and beliefs of the power elite. It is clear the Nazi

movement

> > was a new approach to feudalism, by the same aristocratic ruling

> > powers. Realizing that some sense of revolution must be fulfilled

in

> > the ordinary working classes, Nazism gave the impression of

> > revolution, but was in fact the Restoration of the feudal

overlords

> > of the Holy Roman Empire, and the beginning of the National

Socialist

> > deception.

> >

> > Hitler's personal aide escaped his clutches and fled to Britain.

In

> > 1939 he wrote an eye witness account of the madness of the Third

> > Reich: "What will the social order of the future be like?

Comrade, I

> > will tell you. There will be a class of overlords, after them the

> > rank and file of the party members in hierarchical order, and then

> > the great mass of anonymous followers, servants and workers in

> > perpetuity, and beneath them again all the conquered foreign

races,

> > the modern slaves. And over and above all these will reign a new

and

> > exalted nobility of whom I cannot speak. But of all these plans

the

> > militant members will know nothing. The new man is living amongst

us

> > now! He is here. Isn't that enough for you? I will tell you a

> > secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was

> > afraid of him" - Adolf Hitler quoted from "Hitler Speaks" by

Hermann

> > Rauschning.

> >

> > Hitler could not have expressed the aims of the Protocols of the

> > Elders of Sion or the Hieron du Val d'Or more eloquently. Today

the

> > agenda of the power elite continues using its network of Occult

and

> > political structures - from the unaccountable Bilderberg Group to

the

> > elite of the Dragon Court, from the undemocratic Trilateral

> > Commission to the transnational Knights of Malta. Through their

> > influence and control the Synarchists continue to stay on top of

the

> > power pyramid, regardless of how much global suffering and misery

is

> > caused, and maintain the anti-democratic structures of a hidden

> > feudalist system. By his own admission, the new head of the

European

> > Council of Princes HRH Prince Michael Stewart recently replaced

HSH

> > Prince Otto von Habsburg of Austria as chief representative of the

> > thirty three Royal Houses of Europe. These are the thirty three

Holy

> > Grail bloodline royal families who bizarrely claim descent from

Jesus

> > Christ (who they believe was a Dragon high priest/king), and their

> > historical goal remains the same. But who exactly are their

allies?

> >

> > Has the Western world finally and completely internalized the

values

> > of the Great White Brotherhood?

> >

> > Again these same secret societies are revealing the inner secrets

of

> > their inverted belief system, in the hope of converting new

followers

> > in key positions of influence. Their philosophers continue to

seduce

> > the highest levels of the military, politics, and business, and

reach

> > out to the public through books, lectures, and the internet. While

> > the economic and political power of 21st Century Synarchy spin

> > doctors such as Sir Laurence Gardner and Prince Nicholas de Vere

is

> > narrow, their esteemed position and knowledge within occult

circles

> > will almost certainly reach many with genuine clout: namely high

> > level Freemasons and Rosicrucians within the corporate-military-

> > industrial complex. While most of the world naively believes

> > democracy has truly replaced feudalism, the concentration of

wealth

> > in the hands of a few, with majority ownership of stocks, bonds

and

> > real estate, and even the 2000 American Presidential elections,

> > proves the contrary. The richest 254 people in the world own more

> > wealth than 47% of the global population.

> >

> > Right-wing conspiracy theorists mistakenly believe the goal of the

> > secret societies is a One World Utopia, or Global Socialist State,

> > but this couldn't be further from the truth. Synarchy's "Global

> > Village" will be ruled by the "Dark Lords from their Castles of

> > Darkness"; reigning supreme, uncontested, and as the past has

shown,

> > plotting to starve the poor to feed the rich, while a divided

middle-

> > class competes for the scraps--a historical socio-political model

> > that is the norm in most developing countries. Undemocratic and

> > inaccessible political and economic organizations - whether ultra-

> > conservative "think-tanks" or globalization commissions -

ultimately

> > harness the methodology of fascism, and are the enemies of a truly

> > democratic and open World Unity or Global Village.

> >

> > The biblical struggle against the anti-Christ is not some future

> > event - it is History, past and present, and symbolic of the

struggle

> > between anti-hero and hero, darkness and light, feudalism and

> > democracy.

> >

> > The likely consequences of the Occult Conspiracy suggest that the

> > economic, political, and social decision making of individuals

allied

> > with the aims of the European aristocatic secret society network,

> > whether in the Vatican, the British Crown, the American

Government,

> > European politics, transnational Corporations, or the vast

> > bureaucracy of Nato's military machine, will consciously or

> > unconsciously reflect their initiation, indoctrination, and

> > allegiance to the Aryan/Rosicrucian white supremacist perception

of

> > the world.

> >

> > Having internalized their Rulers of the Universe values, mega-

> > corporations and conglomerates backed by the WTO and other

spurious

> > organizations, are attempting to hold the world to ransom by

> > copyright patenting essential items for basic human survival,

such as

> > human DNA, genetically modified rice and wheat that is forced upon

> > Third World farmers, and life-saving AIDS drugs (most of which

were

> > developed by public-funded universities). While the poorest

> > countries face trade sanctions for trying to stay alive, more

> > elaborate methods of "bio-piracy" are being devised to more

> > effectively steal the natural resources of our world. As drug

> > companies reach yearly profits of over $1.3 billion each, the

power

> > elite's starve the poor to feed the rich methodology continues

into

> > the 21st Century. Even the CIA admits in its recent Global 2015

> > report that the gap between rich and poor will grow greater with

the

> > effects of globalization. As South Africa's Nelson Mandela

recently

> > asked "Is there a direct link between Africa's poverty, and the

> > Western world's wealth?" According to Rosicrucian logic, this

> > inequality is not only necessary, but vital.

> >

> > The Spider's Web of cause and effect, of safe-guarding interests,

> > wealth, resources and position, and the seeking of supreme and

> > ultimate power--economic, political, and magickal--ultimately

opposes

> > all progressive moves towards global democracy and freedom, human

> > rights and social justice, which are perceived as a direct threat

to

> > the New World Order historical agenda of the Great White

Brotherhood,

> > and their reactionary Secret Church, with all its various

> > denominations, royal courts, orders, and covens, who find unity of

> > purpose and intent through their Aryan white supremacist belief

> > system.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 15

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:13:39 -0000

> > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > Thank you..

> >

> > I have always wanted to do astral travel and meet my spiritual

gurus to

> > guide me

> > further.. i have always felt them to be with me.. but i want to

meet them

> > and seek

> > guidance..whenever i do meditation.. i only see as a light in a

cave as my

> > spiritual

> > gurus..

> >

> > i guess i need some relaxation.. shaking is becomeing more as i

keep

> > writing and

> > thinking about these things..

> >

> > AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA..

> >

> > anil

> > , "pillai_george"

> > <pillai_george> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > Not to worry,

> > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which goes thru all the

> > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You will feel

what

> > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is very normal.Get

ready

> > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > >

> > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint Arunagirinathar.

> > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close your eyes.

> > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > >

> > > Om namah shivaya

> > >

> > > Yours

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > > , "anil"

> > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Aum.

> > > >

> > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much

energy

> > > within and i am

> > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > > >

> > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..

> > > >

> > > > Need immd help..

> > > >

> > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > >

> > > > rgds

> > > > anil

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> > Message: 16

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:50:30 -0700 (PDT)

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > Re: Signals

> >

> > Very inspiring.

> > Thanks,

> > Divakar.

> >

> > --- pillai george <pillai_george> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a

> > > small, uninhabited island.

> > >

> > > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and

> > > every day he scanned the horizon for help, but none

> > > seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually managed

> > > to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect

> > > him from the elements, and to store his few

> > > possessions.

> > >

> > > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he

> > > arrived home to find his little hut in flames, the

> > > smoke rolling up to the sky.

> > >

> > > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was

> > > stunned with grief and anger.

> > >

> > > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> > >

> > > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the

> > > sound of a ship that was approaching the island. It

> > > had come to rescue him.

> > >

> > > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man

> > > of his rescuers.

> > >

> > > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> > >

> > > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going

> > > bad. But we shouldn't lose heart, because God is at

> > > work in our lives, even in the midst of pain and

> > > suffering.

> > >

> > > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to

> > > the ground, it just may be a smoke signal that

> > > summons the grace of God.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yours

> > >

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > Message: 17

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT)

> > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > Re: Signals

> >

> > dear brother george

> >

> > your mails with various stories are highly inspirational for all

devotees,

> > especially for those in distress. please continue your posting

such nice

> > lessons whenever time permits you.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> > moderator

> >

> > pillai george <pillai_george> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small,

uninhabited

> > island.

> >

> > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he

scanned the

> > horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he

eventually

> > managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him

from the

> > elements, and to store his few possessions.

> >

> > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to

find his

> > little hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky.

> >

> > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was stunned with

grief and

> > anger.

> >

> > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> >

> > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the sound of a

ship that

> > was approaching the island. It had come to rescue him.

> >

> > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his

rescuers.

> >

> > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> >

> > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going bad. But we

shouldn't

> > lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the

midst of pain

> > and suffering.

> >

> > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground, it

just may

> > be a smoke signal that summons the grace of God.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours

> >

> > George Pillai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> >

> >

> > Lord shiva

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 18

> > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:05:12 -0700 (PDT)

> > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> >

> > Dear Anil,

> >

> > As we all requested please take some rest and let your

> > body adjust to your new energy. You will surely find

> > your quests but right now you need to take care of

> > your self. in my opinion spiritual journey is a long

> > and arduous.

> >

> > From whatever I have read and personal experience, we

> > can try to contact spiritual guides, but they will get

> > back to us only when they feel the time is right and

> > when we are ready for them, only in a high relaxed

> > state we can see them or communicate with them. you

> > dont have to focus so hard, they will communicate in a

> > simple manner like in your thoughts or dreams or

> > through people or happenings around you, you need an

> > open mind and patience, sometimes you can see then

> > also.

> >

> > Relax and spend time with your family, let your normal

> > life go on as it is, spiritual things happen at a very

> > slow pace, having so many expectations so soon will

> > disappoint you, I am telling this out of my personal

> > experience, things happen but they happen slowly, at

> > the pace God wants not at the pace we want.

> >

> > Relax, Sleepwell, re-joice in life. Keep things

> > simple, all great things in this world are very simple

> > we just dont realize.

> >

> > Regds,

> > Divakar.

> >

> > --- anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> >

> > > Thank you..

> > >

> > > I have always wanted to do astral travel and meet my

> > > spiritual gurus to guide me

> > > further.. i have always felt them to be with me..

> > > but i want to meet them and seek

> > > guidance..whenever i do meditation.. i only see as a

> > > light in a cave as my spiritual

> > > gurus..

> > >

> > > i guess i need some relaxation.. shaking is

> > > becomeing more as i keep writing and

> > > thinking about these things..

> > >

> > > AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA..

> > >

> > > anil

> > > ,

> > > "pillai_george"

> > > <pillai_george> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Anil,

> > > >

> > > > Not to worry,

> > > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which

> > > goes thru all the

> > > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You

> > > will feel what

> > > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is

> > > very normal.Get ready

> > > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > > >

> > > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint

> > > Arunagirinathar.

> > > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close

> > > your eyes.

> > > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > > >

> > > > Om namah shivaya

> > > >

> > > > Yours

> > > > George Pillai

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > "anil"

> > > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Aum.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it

> > > is shaking

> > > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i

> > > feel so much energy

> > > > within and i am

> > > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake

> > > happening..

> > > > >

> > > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating

> > > on my being..

> > > > >

> > > > > Need immd help..

> > > > >

> > > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > > >

> > > > > rgds

> > > > > anil

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Re: seeking your advice

> >

> > Lakshmi Jee,

> > Please refer Message No: 795 vide Title "Mercury Shiv Lingam"

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> > >

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Yes Anil ji,

 

Its the ego that causes all these problems, people

first try to show that they are better than others and

if that is not possible then their religion, country,

language ... become better that others.

 

if we shed this ego, we can see God, this is very easy

said than done, everyday I fight with my ego, and ask

god to help me get rid of it, but still struuggling.

 

Regards,

Divakar.

 

--- anil <anil_bindal2000 wrote:

 

> Vijay ji,

>

> each one has his own truth.. and there are as many

> truths as many souls and all are

> right..

>

> just watch how our mind/ego tries to label our

> experiences and how insecure our ego

> is which tries to overcome faith..this I is so

> scared that it always wants to illude your

> trueself to create an insecure feeling..

>

> Enjoy all this drama as an observer..observer the

> mind and the reactions in the body

> which are created and enoy and laugh at it..be

> observant of seer within us..

>

> Aum or rather Happy Jesus Christ..and this

> gentleman..

>

> We are all oneness..

>

> i would like to recommend reading Conversation with

> GOD , all 3 volumes written by

> Donald Welsch..

>

> the gentleman who has written this.. for him this is

> the way to find DOW within..

>

> Hari Om..

>

> anil

>

> , Vijay

> Balachandran

> <vijayjunior@g...> wrote:

> >

> > **

> > *Attention to all,*

> > **

> > *Crude remarks have been made on lord shiva and

> ganash as well in this

> > website, for your kind attention.*

> >

>

http://www.themiraclesofjesusministry.org/vision-1-30-05.htm

> >

> > Regards

> > Vijay

> > On 20 Oct 2005 22:04:26 -0000,

> <

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > There are 19 messages in this issue.

> > >

> > > Topics in this digest:

> > >

> > > 1. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > > 2. Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > 3. Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

> > > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > > 4. Re: mudras

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > 5. Re: God gave me everything

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 6. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 7. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 8. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 9. Mercury Shivalingam

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 10. Body Shaking

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 11. Jokes

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 12. Signals

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 13. seeking your advice

> > > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

> > > 14. Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The

> Three and t...

> > > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > > 15. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 16. Re: Signals

> > > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > > 17. Re: Signals

> > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > > 18. Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > > 19. Re: seeking your advice

> > > KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > > Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:16:20 -0000

> > > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > Not to worry,

> > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which

> goes thru all the

> > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's.

> You will feel what

> > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is

> very normal.Get ready

> > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > >

> > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint

> Arunagirinathar.

> > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras

> close your eyes.

> > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > >

> > > Om namah shivaya

> > >

> > > Yours

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > > ,

> "anil"

> > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Aum.

> > > >

> > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and

> it is shaking

> > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i

> feel so much energy

> > > within and i am

> > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake

> happening..

> > > >

> > > > it started on itw own..when i was

> concentrating on my being..

> > > >

> > > > Need immd help..

> > > >

> > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > >

> > > > rgds

> > > > anil

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

____________________

> __

> > >

>

____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 2

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:32:39 -0000

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > > A very good effort from Sri K.S.RAO ji for a

> noble cause.I am happy

> > > that shiva group is helping the efforts for

> Ancient Temples

> > > Renovation.Let us all come forward help Prof. R.

> Radhakrishnan by

> > > Providing financial support needed for the

> renovation of dilapidated

> > > ancient temples.

> > > With Warm Regards

> > > Prasanna kumar

> > > om namah shivaya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

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Om namah shivaya

 

 

With due respects to pujya Guruji , I am attaching a mail which is apt

for all of us to remember and act always

 

Om namah shivaya

 

 

 

Regards,

Balachandran

 

 

 

[] On Behalf Of Divakara

Tanjore

Friday, October 21, 2005 5:50 PM

 

Re: Re: Digest Number 81

 

Yes Anil ji,

 

Its the ego that causes all these problems, people

first try to show that they are better than others and

if that is not possible then their religion, country,

language ... become better that others.

 

if we shed this ego, we can see God, this is very easy

said than done, everyday I fight with my ego, and ask

god to help me get rid of it, but still struuggling.

 

Regards,

Divakar.

 

--- anil <anil_bindal2000 wrote:

 

> Vijay ji,

>

> each one has his own truth.. and there are as many

> truths as many souls and all are

> right..

>

> just watch how our mind/ego tries to label our

> experiences and how insecure our ego

> is which tries to overcome faith..this I is so

> scared that it always wants to illude your

> trueself to create an insecure feeling..

>

> Enjoy all this drama as an observer..observer the

> mind and the reactions in the body

> which are created and enoy and laugh at it..be

> observant of seer within us..

>

> Aum or rather Happy Jesus Christ..and this

> gentleman..

>

> We are all oneness..

>

> i would like to recommend reading Conversation with

> GOD , all 3 volumes written by

> Donald Welsch..

>

> the gentleman who has written this.. for him this is

> the way to find DOW within..

>

> Hari Om..

>

> anil

>

> , Vijay

> Balachandran

> <vijayjunior@g...> wrote:

> >

> > **

> > *Attention to all,*

> > **

> > *Crude remarks have been made on lord shiva and

> ganash as well in this

> > website, for your kind attention.*

> >

>

http://www.themiraclesofjesusministry.org/vision-1-30-05.htm

> >

> > Regards

> > Vijay

> > On 20 Oct 2005 22:04:26 -0000,

> <

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > There are 19 messages in this issue.

> > >

> > > Topics in this digest:

> > >

> > > 1. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > > 2. Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > 3. Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

> > > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > > 4. Re: mudras

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > 5. Re: God gave me everything

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 6. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 7. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 8. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 9. Mercury Shivalingam

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 10. Body Shaking

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 11. Jokes

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 12. Signals

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 13. seeking your advice

> > > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

> > > 14. Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The

> Three and t...

> > > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > > 15. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 16. Re: Signals

> > > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > > 17. Re: Signals

> > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > > 18. Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > > 19. Re: seeking your advice

> > > KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

____________________

> __

> > >

>

____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 1

> > > Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:16:20 -0000

> > > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > Not to worry,

> > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which

> goes thru all the

> > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's.

> You will feel what

> > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is

> very normal.Get ready

> > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > >

> > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint

> Arunagirinathar.

> > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras

> close your eyes.

> > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > >

> > > Om namah shivaya

> > >

> > > Yours

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > > ,

> "anil"

> > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Aum.

> > > >

> > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and

> it is shaking

> > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i

> feel so much energy

> > > within and i am

> > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake

> happening..

> > > >

> > > > it started on itw own..when i was

> concentrating on my being..

> > > >

> > > > Need immd help..

> > > >

> > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > >

> > > > rgds

> > > > anil

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

____________________

> __

> > >

>

____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 2

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:32:39 -0000

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > > A very good effort from Sri K.S.RAO ji for a

> noble cause.I am happy

> > > that shiva group is helping the efforts for

> Ancient Temples

> > > Renovation.Let us all come forward help Prof. R.

> Radhakrishnan by

> > > Providing financial support needed for the

> renovation of dilapidated

> > > ancient temples.

> > > With Warm Regards

> > > Prasanna kumar

> > > om namah shivaya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

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"Rao Jagannath" sarvajrao

"balachandran m" balachandran_m, anandchhabra, dmr14

Cc: dalbir469, niranjan.dasiga, vijayavishwa, vadlamani_padmavathi

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I too felt all religions are same because we are thought so are every

Swami preaches that. But after meeting Indian Christians and wat

lovely respect they have for Hindus, i have changed my view. They

openly tell today st a church 5 converted. I had oppurtunity to meet

converted KOLIS ( Fisherwomen ) who had come to atemple i was present.

They had come from Mumbai to visit a Church ceremony about 45 of them.

They saw that in the Temple festivities were going on so they came in.

After Doing Namaskar and pranam to Goddess, they said now we have to

go to church and confess to father that we done a sin to visit a

temple. NOTE: SIN TO GO TO A TEMPLE> If you have gone to a church is

it a sin?????

 

When asked why did u convert ? They tld we had loans , and the Church

told we will give you money if you convert? Lovely spirituality

involved in the process?

 

 

 

, "Vijay" <shankerv@b...>

wrote:

>

> On Sept.20,2005, in another group on

> i.e.Hinduism_environment, while putting forward

> my views on the issue of "Conversion" I had mentioned

> that "....So much so that the Christianity, the priests

> would like to convince the masses that the Christ is

> the only personal saviour of human beings on this earth

> and all the human beings are the sinners.... {Reference:

> Foundations of Faith (what the Bible says), page – 64,

> Para "Prayer"}". In the same continuation,I had also

> mentioned that " Religious leaders belonging to Islam and

> Christianity have been considering it as their sacred

> duty to attract people of other faiths in order to convert

> them by hook or by crook, by means of offering temptations,

> by persuasions or even by using force, if so desired."

>

> The website which you have mentioned, is a clearcut case

> of ongoing effort by some christian group/s to divert

> people's faith from Hinduism to Christianity.

>

> Vijay Shanker

>

>

>

>

> , Vijay Balachandran

> <vijayjunior@g...> wrote:

> >

> > **

> > *Attention to all,*

> > **

> > *Crude remarks have been made on lord shiva and ganash as well in

> this

> > website, for your kind attention.*

> > http://www.themiraclesofjesusministry.org/vision-1-30-05.htm

> >

> > Regards

> > Vijay

> > On 20 Oct 2005 22:04:26 -0000,

> <

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > There are 19 messages in this issue.

> > >

> > > Topics in this digest:

> > >

> > > 1. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > > 2. Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > 3. Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

> > > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > > 4. Re: mudras

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > 5. Re: God gave me everything

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 6. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 7. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 8. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 9. Mercury Shivalingam

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 10. Body Shaking

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 11. Jokes

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 12. Signals

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 13. seeking your advice

> > > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

> > > 14. Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The Three and t...

> > > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > > 15. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 16. Re: Signals

> > > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > > 17. Re: Signals

> > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > > 18. Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > > 19. Re: seeking your advice

> > > KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 1

> > > Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:16:20 -0000

> > > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > Not to worry,

> > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which goes thru all the

> > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You will feel what

> > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is very normal.Get

> ready

> > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > >

> > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint Arunagirinathar.

> > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close your eyes.

> > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > >

> > > Om namah shivaya

> > >

> > > Yours

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > > , "anil"

> > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Aum.

> > > >

> > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much

> energy

> > > within and i am

> > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > > >

> > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..

> > > >

> > > > Need immd help..

> > > >

> > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > >

> > > > rgds

> > > > anil

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 2

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:32:39 -0000

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > > A very good effort from Sri K.S.RAO ji for a noble cause.I am

> happy

> > > that shiva group is helping the efforts for Ancient Temples

> > > Renovation.Let us all come forward help Prof. R. Radhakrishnan by

> > > Providing financial support needed for the renovation of

> dilapidated

> > > ancient temples.

> > > With Warm Regards

> > > Prasanna kumar

> > > om namah shivaya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 3

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:45:48 +0100 (BST)

> > > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > > Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

> > >

> > > wow what a beautiful krishna

> > > thank u

> > > sending

> > > such photos

> > > of lord krishna

> > > hare krishna

> > > hari om

> > >

> > > "sairamdoris" <sairamdoris> wrote:

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > radha rati

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ram meet bharat

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > rama leave home

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > krishna leaves mathura

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > King Parikshit meet Sukadeva

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vibhisan surrender to rama before battle

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vrindaban.com <http://vrindaban.com> / devotional painting

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "Why should you fear anything when you have such a Lord of the

> universe to

> > > take care of you. I do everything for your good." - Baba

> > >

> > > sairamdoris

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Correo

> > > Comprueba qué es nuevo, aquí

> > > http://correo..es

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visit your group "" on the web.

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> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 4

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:39:04 -0000

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > Re: mudras

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > > I am sorry the picture in the message is not being displayed .Pls

> refer

> > > Our photo section for Mudras connected to the message.

> > > Regards

> > > prasanna

> > >

> > >

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> > > Message: 5

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:41:34 -0000

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > Re: God gave me everything

> > >

> > > BEAUTIFUL..

> > >

> > > HARI OM

> > > anil

> > > , pillai george <

> > > pillai_george@y.

> > > ..> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When I Asked God for Peace

> > > > He Showed Me How to Help Others

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When I Asked God for Strength

> > > > He Gave Me Difficult Situations to Face

> > > >

> > > > When I Asked God for Brain

> > > > He Gave Me Puzzles in Life to Solve

> > > >

> > > > When I Asked God for Happiness

> > > > He Showed Me Some Unhappy People

> > > >

> > > > When I Asked God for Wealth

> > > > He Showed Me How to Work Hard

> > > >

> > > > When I Asked God for Favors

> > > > He Showed Me Opportunities to Work Harder

> > > >

> > > > God Gave Me Nothing I Wanted

> > > > He Gave Me Everything I Needed

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yours

> > > >

> > > > George Pillai

> > > >

> > > >

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> ____________________

> __

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 6

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:48:29 -0000

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > >

> > > My unconditional love to you and i bow to GOD within you..

> > >

> > > i feel OK.

> > >

> > > Aum Namah Shivaya namah Om.. chating is still ON inside me..

> > >

> > > AUM

> > >

> > > anil

> > >

> > > , KS Rao

> <kasturisrao@g...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sh. Arun,

> > > > Do not worry, it is accumulation of more positive energy in one

> of the

> > > > chakras which got opened up. I have passed on Reiki energy to

> earth

> > > excess

> > > > enrgy as you wished to have immediate help. In case of any need

> you may

> > > > contact me on my mobile

> > > > KS Rao,

> > > > Navi Mumbai

> > > > Cell: 93242 94531

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > This is NarasimhaRao, I have 2+ years of exp. as java

> developer. Here I

> > > am

> > > > forwarding my cv.Plz go through this and let me know the

> details.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > J.Narasimharao

> > > > 09867230696

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 10/19/05, anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > it started after i felt tremors due to earth quake in the

> morning.. i

> > > live

> > > > > on 14th floor in

> > > > > gurgaon..

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > anil

> > > > > , Mahapratibhawan

> > > <branko.

> > > > > ivatovic@g...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Anil,

> > > > > > This is start spontaneous or after emotional shock?

> > > > > > If your body not stop shaking please connect me direct to

> email.

> > > > > > If you have best concentration please concentrate to point

> between

> > > eyes

> > > > > and

> > > > > > up from this line on the forehead. Repeat heartily Om Namah

> Shivaya

> > > (O

> > > > > God

> > > > > > all is Yours nothing My). Shavasana is perfect because is

> very easy

> > > > > energy

> > > > > > flow through Sushumna, but not good send any energy through

> > > Sushumna! If

> > > > > you

> > > > > > can't see inner light or bindu and haven't inner sound

> (inner smell,

> > > > > taste,

> > > > > > touch) better not practice any technique because you

> without any

> > > sign

> > > > > > consciousness (Kunadalini Shakti or Para Shakti), only one

> from

> > > Prana

> > > > > Shakti

> > > > > > go through you ida, pingala, sushumna or any nadi. Then

> shavasana or

> > > > > > makarasana is perfect for you. Only full relax.

> > > > > > Best in any cases Maha mantra: He Prabho Praseed Aum - O

> God Bless

> > > (My)

> > > > > Soul

> > > > > > - without blessing we can't do nothing. Writing is better

> then

> > > > > repeating. 2

> > > > > > x 108 repeat or 1008 times writes.

> > > > > > My God Bless You

> > > > > > Mahapratibhawan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 10/19/05, anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Aum.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > > sideways,

> > > > > L-R,

> > > > > > > sometimes

> > > > > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so

> much energy

> > > > > within

> > > > > > > and i am

> > > > > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my

> being..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Need immd help..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > > anil

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lord shiva</gads?

> > > > > t=ms&k=Lord+shiva&w1=Lord+shiva&c=1&s=16&.

> > > > > sig=OAeTVpNdu4gIgpXCJOVmEQ>

> > > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Visit your group "<

> > > > >

> > > > > >"

> > > > > > > on the web.

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > - (AT) (DOT)

> > > > > com<?

> > > > > subject=Un>

> > > > > > > -

> Terms of

> > > > > > > Service <>.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Lord shiva</gads?

> > > t=ms&k=Lord+shiva&w1=Lord+shiva&c=1&s=16&.

> > > sig=OAeTVpNdu4gIgpXCJOVmEQ>

> > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > - Visit your group "<

> > >

> > > >"

> > > > > on the web.

> > > > > -

> > > > > - (AT) (DOT)

> > > com<?

> > > subject=Un>

> > > > > - Terms of

> > > > > Service <>.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> ____________________

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> > >

> > > Message: 7

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:45:37 -0000

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > >

> > > Shiva within me BOWS to yours.

> > >

> > > I have realized that saying in Bhagwat Gita when Lord Krishna

> says that i

> > > remain in all

> > > and so remaining i worhship myself..

> > >

> > > I must have been very very lucky to have got blessing from all

> members of

> > > this group

> > > ..

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot..

> > >

> > > i m feeling OK now..

> > >

> > > regards

> > > anil

> > > , "prasanna kumar"

> > > <prasannakumar21@g...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear esteem members

> > > > I wish to help Mr anilji let us all together pray from him,so

> that i

> > > > can be back to normal.Today i have pray for him ,i hope other

> also help

> > > > him in this regard.

> > > > with warm Regards

> > > > Prasanna

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> ____________________

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> > >

> > > Message: 8

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:58:19 -0000

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > >

> > > Thank you..

> > >

> > > By grace of GOD..one seller from Nepal has offered me a Rudraksha

> Mala

> > > 3-14 Mukhi

> > > + GS + Ganaesha...and he wrote that he himself does not know why

> he is

> > > offering so

> > > huge discount..also he will get the mala energized at

> Pashupatinath

> > > Temple..i have

> > > visited that temple 18 years back..

> > >

> > > Saab Gorakh ki maya aur Marji hai..

> > >

> > > you are right, i need rest..as i am writing this email.. my body

> is still

> > > shaking ..to realize

> > > oneself as GOD..one gets so much of the GODDISH energy.. that now

> i

> > > know..it is

> > > very difficult for an ordinary person like me to even face it..

> > >

> > > this morning i meditated as Shiva..it is all by HIS grace..he has

> chosen

> > > me to express

> > > myself well.. this is the purpose of my life in this re-

> incarnation and

> > > this forum has

> > > helped me a lot..to share my feelings..

> > >

> > > Thanks to moderators for giving me an invitation to join this

> group..

> > >

> > > Aum

> > >

> > > anil

> > > , Divakara Tanjore

> <div_tan@y

> > > ...

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Anil,

> > > >

> > > > This excess energy will generate a lot of heat in your

> > > > body, keep drinking a lot of water and fluids, just

> > > > relax and do things which you like for a few days,

> > > > dont exert your self doing a lot of mantra chanting,

> > > > as long as you have compassion and love in you heart

> > > > Lord shiva will always love you, you need plenty of

> > > > rest.

> > > >

> > > > Once your body adjusts to this energy you will be a

> > > > changed person spiritually, you can do more of Lord

> > > > Shiva's work, for now just relax and let the energy

> > > > ground itself.

> > > >

> > > > Enjoy your self and by joyous.

> > > > Om namah shivaya,

> > > > Regds,

> > > > Divakar.

> > > >

> > > > --- prasanna kumar <prasannakumar21@g...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear esteem members

> > > > > I wish to help Mr anilji let us all together pray

> > > > > from him,so that i

> > > > > can be back to normal.Today i have pray for him ,i

> > > > > hope other also help

> > > > > him in this regard.

> > > > > with warm Regards

> > > > > Prasanna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> ____________________

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> > >

> > > Message: 9

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:00:24 +0800 (CST)

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > Mercury Shivalingam

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Bro's and Sister's,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > An Article that attracts me at Rudra Centre.

> > >

> > > www.rudraksha-ratna.com <http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > He who worships Mercury Shivalingam devotedly, whether one is

> male or

> > > female, Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra gets full worldly

> pleasures, and

> > > at last attains supreme destination (salvation). During life-span

> they get

> > > glory, honour, high office, name and fame, sons, grandsons and

> perfection in

> > > learning. At last they get salvation. The virtue got by seeing

> the Twelve

> > > Jyotirlingas is received only by looking at the Mercury

> Shivalinga. The

> > > chance to look at it is possible only when the worshipper's

> virtues of

> > > previous births come to light. By worshipping the Mercury

> Shivalingas, the

> > > worshipper gets the fruits which are attained only by worshipping

> > > Shivalingas which are situated in three Lokas (cosmic worlds).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Complete with 8 Sanskaars(8 stage of Purifications done as per

> Parad

> > > Sanmhita) and removal of Saptakanchuki(100 % medicated and

> hygienic); the

> > > Siddha Parad(Mercury mouth closed with Aghor Vidhya) is formed to

> make

> > > Murthi-Badhha/Agnibadha(sustain the heat) Shiva lingam.

> > >

> > > Prepared by Ayurvedic methods as written in ancient scriptures.

> Made out

> > > of Siddh Parad/Mercury and rare herbs. The Shivling contains no

> other metal

> > > except Mercury. It can be made to powder by crushing and as well

> can be

> > > turned in to the Pure Mercury form by heating to the very high

> temperature

> > > comply with the Parad Sanmhita. The Extract from this Shivling

> gives 24 Ras

> > > and 5 Tatva which removes all diseases in the body. To have a

> Shiva lingam

> > > made from Parad/Mercury, one must be blessed through good karmic

> deeds of

> > > past lives.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Pandit Shree Deenanathji mades it for Rudra centre.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Brief about Panditji Shree Deenanathji

> > >

> > >

> > > Born in Aug 1938 in a small village named Nadbai, in the district

> of

> > > Bharatpur (Rajasthan), Pundit Shree Dinanathji was highly

> inclined to learn

> > > the secrets of Ayurveda. To fulfill his keen desire to learn the

> science of

> > > Ayurveda especially the Parad/Mercury, he joined the ashram of

> Saint Shree

> > > Nirmalandji Chaitanya Brahmachai in 1971 to study mercury

> science. His

> > > ashram was in southern corner of Narmada river.

> > >

> > > Later he did his research and development on mercury at many holy

> places

> > > of India namely Omkareshwar, Amarkantak, Haridwar, Hrishikesh,

> Pushkar,

> > > Badrinath, Gangotri and Jamnotri. 40 years ago he opened a

> Ayurvedic medical

> > > research centre in Dosa district near Jaipur. Now he is in Jaipur

> since last

> > > 20 years running a medical centre which provides facilities for

> treatment of

> > > asthma, blood pressure, liver, diabetes, skin, gastritis,

> rheumatism,

> > > arthritis, thyroid related problems.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yours

> > >

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> > >

> > > [This message contained attachments]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> __

> > >

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> __

> > >

> > > Message: 10

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:41:37 +0800 (CST)

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > Body Shaking

> > >

> > > Dear Anil ji,

> > >

> > > Your body have received abundant cosmic energy. Body shake is

> very normal

> > > at this situation. The cosmic energy will pass thru 72000 nadi's

> to activate

> > > your chakras. After the third eye opening get yourself ready to

> go on a

> > > Astral journey. It will be a wonderful experience (soul) seeing

> your own

> > > body.

> > >

> > > Lord Subramaniam told Saint Arunagirinathar to

> > >

> > > Just sit quietly, close your eye, don't think anything or chant

> any

> > > mantra's.

> > > Just Relax,relax,relax.

> > >

> > > You will become a "Miraculous Creator"

> > >

> > > Yours

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Meet your soulmate!

> > > Asia presents Meetic - where millions of singles gather

> > >

> > > [This message contained attachments]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

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> > >

> > > Message: 11

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:15:55 +0800 (CST)

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > Jokes

> > >

> > >

> > > This story was sent by a Yogi from Switzerland who founded the

> Geneva

> > > Sivananda Yoga Center.

> > >

> > > The Swiss, as we all know, tend to be placid people. Some go as

> far as

> > > claiming that we are occasionnally somewhat slow.

> > >

> > >

> > > Three Swiss monks of the benedictine order were meditating high

> in the

> > > Alps. Suddenly, a beautiful milk cow walked by.

> > >

> > >

> > > The first monk said : "HHHMMM, this is Fritz's cow, I tell you".

> > > Half an hour later, the second monk said : " HHHMMM, really that

> was

> > > Kurt's cow. I'm quite sure".

> > >

> > >

> > > An other half hour later, the third Swiss monk stood up and

> said "I'm

> > > going away, I can't stand you guys having an argument around me

> when I'm

> > > trying to meditate"....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yours

> > >

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> > >

> > > [This message contained attachments]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > > Message: 12

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:05:01 +0800 (CST)

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > Signals

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small,

> uninhabited

> > > island.

> > >

> > > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he

> scanned the

> > > horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he

> eventually

> > > managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him

> from the

> > > elements, and to store his few possessions.

> > >

> > > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to

> find his

> > > little hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky.

> > >

> > > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was stunned with

> grief and

> > > anger.

> > >

> > > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> > >

> > > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the sound of a

> ship that

> > > was approaching the island. It had come to rescue him.

> > >

> > > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his

> rescuers.

> > >

> > > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> > >

> > > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going bad. But we

> shouldn't

> > > lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the

> midst of pain

> > > and suffering.

> > >

> > > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground, it

> just may

> > > be a smoke signal that summons the grace of God.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yours

> > >

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> > >

> > > [This message contained attachments]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> __

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 13

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:32:57 -0000

> > > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

> > > seeking your advice

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > > can some one guide me on Silver-Parad Shiv Ling.Its benifits and

> how to

> > > get and puja procedures

> > > lakshmi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 14

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:14:49 -0000

> > > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > > Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The Three and t...

> > >

> > > I replied to this once and for some strange reason my reply was

> not

> > > posted; so I reply here again.....

> > > , "saidevo"

> > > <saidevo> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear JCsharanananda Ji,

> > > >

> > > > 1. In my limited familiarity, I have not read anywhere in

> > > > Theosophical literature that Theosophy favours fair-skinned

> > > > and condemns dark-skinned. ...

> > > > 2. I think Theosophy has nothing to do with the Aryan Invasion

> > > > or Aryan Supremacy Theory that the British and Nazis populated.

> > > > The AIT has lately been discounted by the BBC as its Website

> > > > says. If you think otherwise, please indicate a source that

> > > > says that Theosophy favours the 'Aryans', the fair-skinned.

> > >

> > > > 3. However, it should be admitted that Theosophy favours

> > > > Buddhism more than Hinduism, which may be because of the rituals

> > > > in our religion. ....

> > > > 4. My personal impression is that as Theosophy gains more and

> > > > more acceptance in the New Age, there is a danger that the

> > > > modern theosophists might present the timeless concepts of

> > > > Vedatanta as those originated in the West. ........

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > saidevo

> > >

> > > you can find much on the nazis and their interest in theosophy.

> > > anyone who has an even limited knowledge of this sees that the

> nazis

> > > used the swastika. their arayan theories were inspired by

> theosophy

> > > and varna. on a side note the nazis went to tibet on an expedition

> > > to measure the cranial structures of the tibetans to see if they

> were

> > > partially arayan.

> > > amyone with a search engine could type in "nazi theosophy" and

> come

> > > to several references. I found it out from history text books in

> > > school.

> > > for those who are unable to look at their search engines or

> history

> > > books....here are a few reference materials that might provoke

> > > further study.....

> > >

> > > While on the surface the members of the third Reich looked like

> they

> > > had mostly political aims, they actually harbored many extreme and

> > > dangerous "religious" and mythological views, which in time they

> > > hoped to bring to the forefront of Germany. Hitler and his

> followers

> > > were fascinated by occultism and psychical research. One such

> > > fascination was with the teachings of a Mme Blavatsky, around the

> > > late 1800s early 1900s in a school of thought now called Theosophy

> > > Theosophy was a conglomeration of teachings including occultism,

> > > research into ghosts and paranormal phenomena, and an extensive

> > > philosophical/religious base often based upon mythology, the

> gnostic

> > > new testament, a sort of 'Atlantean cult" and "Alexandrian"

> > > teachings.1

> > >

> > > While the term can be applied generically to a group of

> philosophies:

> > >

> > >

> > > "...Gr: knowledge of things divine, fr. ? wise in the things of

> God;

> > > God + wise: cf. F. th['e]osophie.] Any system of philosophy or

> > > mysticism which proposes to attain intercourse with God and

> superior

> > > spirits, and consequent superhuman knowledge, by physical

> processes,

> > > as by the theurgic operations of some ancient Platonists, or by

> the

> > > chemical processes of the German fire philosophers; also, a

> direct,

> > > as distinguished from a revealed, knowledge of God, supposed to be

> > > attained by extraordinary illumination; especially, a direct

> insight

> > > into the processes of the divine mind, and the interior relations

> of

> > > the divine nature.(Webster 1913) or

> > > more recently: Medieval Latin theosophia, from Late Greek, from

> Greek

> > > the- + sophia wisdom -- more at -SOPHY 1 : teaching about God and

> the

> > > world based on mystical insight 2 often capitalized : the

> teachings

> > > of a modern movement originating in the U.S. in 1875 and following

> > > chiefly Buddhist and Brahmanic theories especially of pantheistic

> > > evolution and reincarnation (Miriam Webster online)

> > >

> > >

> > > , the movement and current rendering of Theosophy is primarily

> > > identified with the works of Blavatsky and cohorts around the

> turn of

> > > the century.

> > > Part and parcel to the philosophy was the belief that one day, the

> > > race of superior human beings who inhabited the semi-mythical Lost

> > > City of Atlantis would reappear, through the superior Aryan

> peoples.

> > > They also argued that there have been successions of 'root races"

> and

> > > that we are in the 5th root of 7. When the 7th arrives, it will be

> > > equated with power and perfection. A beginning, inferior race

> which

> > > they equated with the Hebrews of History found in the Bible would

> be

> > > utter replaced, and necessarily for the more advanced to take

> hold.

> > > Blavatsky and others believed that as the human race evolved,

> > > the 'superior' race would find its place by supplanting this

> earlier

> > > root race. A Utopia in Theosophy would only come about eventually

> as

> > > an evolved, genetically superior persons descended from the

> > > Atlanteans would take hold, displacing a people they identified as

> > > the Jews and other inferior races. This new superior race was

> aligned

> > > with and akin to Hitler's concept of the "Master Race". Hitler,

> > > Himmler and other Inner Circle members ascribed to these

> > > philosophies, although they kept them secret from the general

> German

> > > public earlier in the war. The Eugenicists of the time, funded and

> > > endorsed by the Third Reich, active both in Europe and in America

> > > thought to apply their pseudo-science to the controlled advent of

> > > this end.

> > >

> > > Among Blavatsky's early circle of followers who met for study and

> > > seances, were the author Arthur Conan Doyle, and Westcott & Hort,

> the

> > > re-translators of the Bible version Revised Standard 2.

> Blavatsky's

> > > influence was widely felt, not only in certain philosophies

> adhered

> > > to by the Third Reich, but in the development of what is now

> referred

> > > to as "New Age" philosophies. Westcott and Hort and others of her

> > > followers helped found a society to study ghosts,3 which later

> became

> > > the Society for Psychical Research, which is still extant, and

> > > studies many instances of paranormal phenomena.

> > >

> > > Warning Signs of Root Race Theory

> > > I. Frequent mention of Atlantis,the descendants of Atlantis, or

> the

> > > recently discovered "ruins of Atlantis" (not proven to be from

> > > Atlantis)note

> > > II. Notions of Racial Superiority, or one race having

> characteristics

> > > nearing perfection.

> > >

> > > III. A Replacement Race Ideas expressed about the 'replacement'

> of a

> > > final race over earlier more primitive races.

> > >

> > > IV.Final Race War: A more estoteric mention of a philsophy held by

> > > Himmler called 'Volkeschaos" or "the peoples/nations Chaos"

> referring

> > > to an end time final war (like Armaggedon, but not the same) in

> which

> > > all races or ethnic groups hold a final bloody battle, resulting

> in

> > > Victory for a Master Race.

> > >

> > > V. Talk of Philosophy and Religion as a mix, using the

> > > term "Theosophy" as a religious term instead of directly

> referring to

> > > it as a separate belief system.

> > >

> > > Root Race theory is not a 'religious group" but a quasi-doctrine,

> > > which may be adapted to many belief systems. The two main places

> it

> > > is found are in Theosophy, where it forms the foundation for the

> > > overall view of the course of mankind, and in White Aryanism or

> > > Nazism, where it is used as motivation for racial cleansing or

> > > purifying. The belief that a Master Race must emerge replacing

> lesser

> > > races, motivated the Nazis to Endlosung or the "Final Solution" of

> > > the 'Jewish Problem' which translated into the mass extermination

> of

> > > the Jews of Europe.

> > >

> > > Blavatsky's Polarian Race (The First Root Race)

> > > Blavatsky's account of evolution, like those of her successors, is

> > > anthropocentric, pertaining to the evolution of man, not of the

> > > Earth. But it is an evolution extended out through cycles of

> cosmic

> > > evolution, into the cosmos, so it is not just an anthropology,

> but a

> > > cosmology as well. She speaks of human evolution in terms of a

> > > number of Root-Races, each of which existed for a while before

> being

> > > replaced by the next. The early Root-Races were not even physical

> at

> > > all, but vast, amorphous, etheric beings.

> > >

> > > "The First Root-Race, i.e. the first "men" on earth (irrespective

> of

> > > form) were the progeny of the "celestial men"...in Indian

> philosophy

> > > the "Lunar Ancestors" or the Pitris, of which there are seven

> classes

> > > or Hierarchies" [p.74]

> > > Unlike Judeo-Christianity, in Blavatsky's cosmology, "man" is the

> > > creation of higher spiritual hierarchies, but not of "God". They

> are

> > > described as the astral Shadows of the Progenitors [p.181,

> 188], "so

> > > ethereal and so little human in constitution they could not be

> > > affected by any elements - flood or fire" [p.181].

> > >

> > > Just as the Polarians are themselves non-physical, so was

> > > the "continent" upon which they dwelled. It is referred to as

> > > the "Imperishable Sacred Land", which did not "share the fate of

> the

> > > other continents" [p.152] (i.e. to be destroyed at the end of the

> > > era).

> > >

> > > The Polarians reproduced through fission, as the amoeba does today

> > > [p.189]. They "were devoid of all understanding (mind,

> intelligence,

> > > and will)." [p.188]. They were "ethereal, a-sexual, and even

> > > devoid...of desire" [p.176]. The individuals of this Race did not

> > > actually die. Instead, they "melted gradually away, becoming

> > > absorbed in the bodies of their own "sweat-born" progeny (the

> Second

> > > Race), more solid than their own." [p.179].

> > >

> > > Blavatsky's thesis that our distant progenitors were gigantic

> etheric

> > > amoebas may seem incredible at first, but support comes from a

> rather

> > > unexpected quarter: a UFO researcher, Trevor James Constable, who

> > > photographed unusual UFO phenomena using infra-red film in an

> > > otherwise ordinary camera.

> > >

> > > Blavatsky's Polarian Root Race, and even the term "Polarian", was

> > > adopted with little modification by Rudolph Steiner

> > >

> > > and from wikipedia a note....

> > >

> > > Overview

> > > Nazi mysticism is a volkish initiation with roots in the Thule

> > > society and theosophy, as well as the racist ideas of Arthur de

> > > Gobineau. Guido von List and Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels were

> important

> > > figures ........

> > >

> > > .....Research and expeditions

> > > A great deal of time and resources were spent on researching or

> > > creating a popularly accepted "historical", "cultural"

> > > and "scientific" background so the ideas about a "superior" Aryan

> > > race could prosper in the German society of the time. Mystical

> > > organizations such as the Thule Society, Schwarze Sonne, Vrill

> > > Society and others were created, usually connected with elite SS

> > > corps, and adopting specific rituals, initiations and beliefs.

> > >

> > > Expeditions in Tibet, Nepal, Greece, the Arctic, and

> Neuschwabenland

> > > in Antarctica were organized in the search for the

> mythical "Aryan"

> > > nation of Hyperborea, whose capital, Ultima Thule was supposedly

> > > built by the extraterrestrial ancestors of the "Aryan races" who

> came

> > > from the star Aldebaran, according to some of the "Aryan"

> theories.

> > >

> > > A German expedition to Tibet was organized in order to search for

> the

> > > origins of the Aryan race. To this end, the expedition leader,

> Ernst

> > > Schäfer, had his anthropologist Bruno Beger make face masks and

> skull

> > > and nose measurements.

> > >

> > > Similar expeditions were organized in the pursuit of semi-mythical

> > > objects believed to bring power or granting special powers to

> their

> > > owner, such as the Holy Grail and the Spear of Destiny.

> > >

> > > again, anyone with access to a history book, library or search

> engine

> > > can easy read very much on this topic, its not some dusty secret

> > > hidden away.

> > >

> > > now as to your new age idea and support of theosophy, thats a

> matter

> > > of opinion and personal conscience. it pains me though that you

> > > would be so quick to forgive a movement that was championed by

> adolph

> > > hitler and other racists and new agers. It pains me because we are

> > > brothers under mahadev. please read more and keep open mind before

> > > defending these new age movements. kali yuga has long long long

> time

> > > left. the vaishnavas and shaivites of traditional lineages are in

> > > agreement on this. and traditional buddhists believe that coming

> of

> > > maitreya is a long long time away.

> > > if one wants to read alot, that is those who have lots of time on

> > > their hands they can read blavatsky herself here.....The Secret

> > > Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky

> > >

> > > here is a little more..... The Secret History

> > >

> > > The Secret History's most important figures are perhaps self-

> > > proclaimed Russian mystic Madame Helena Blavatsky and her American

> > > husband Colonel Henry Olcott. The result of their collaboration

> would

> > > thrust the world into the abyss and cost the lives of millions.

> > >

> > > Their Theosophy ideology became popular amongst the middle

> classes in

> > > Germany at the end of the 1800's, mostly because of its

> introduction

> > > to Eastern religious and mystical ideas. Blavatsky claimed to have

> > > been party to revelations from Hidden Masters called the "Great

> White

> > > Brotherhood" who resided somewhere in the Himalayas. But Blavatsky

> > > later admitted in letters to her sister that this was a codename

> for

> > > the Rosicrucian hierarchy who funded her. It is clear her work is

> > > influenced, if not sourced, in the work of Masonic demagogue

> General

> > > Albert Pike - the American South's Sovereign Grand Commander of

> the

> > > Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry,

> > > Civil War war criminal, and leading member of the Ku Klux Klan -

> who

> > > revealed Rosicrucian/Masonic doctrine and its "Aryan heritage" in

> his

> > > unpublished pamphlet Morals & Dogma (1871) that was distributed to

> > > Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret (32nd degree) Scottish Rite

> > > initiates.

> > >

> > > Albert Pike is regarded as bringing "order out of chaos" by

> rewriting

> > > the ancient rites of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, formerly devised

> by

> > > groups in France including the Council of the Emperors of the East

> > > and West (now known as the European Council of Princes) and the

> Royal

> > > Stewart's Chapter of Clermont, based at the College of the

> Jesuits,

> > > Paris in 1761. Pike modernized these rituals for the modern

> American

> > > leader, and explained their Aryan source and meaning in Morals &

> > > Dogma and numerous other works. At this time Pike was head of the

> > > Supreme Council of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, based in Charleston,

> > > South Carolina, and following the Civil War and dropped charges of

> > > treason against Pike, the Supreme Council moved to Washington DC.

> > >

> > > Blavatsky's breakthrough book The Secret Doctrine (1888) was an

> > > attempt to popularize the racist concepts of Rosicrucian belief

> at a

> > > time of great change and turmoil. America was recovering from the

> > > Civil War, and the abolition of Slavery was forcing a

> redefinition of

> > > the West's perception of Race. The radical decision to reveal the

> > > beliefs of the power elite came at a time when desperate measures

> > > seemed necessary. The Priory of Sion within the Royal Houses of

> > > Europe and various occult circles were attempting to create a

> > > movement with their Synarchy ideology, a politicized form of

> > > Rosicrucian dogma. Synarchy advocated government by secret

> society -

> > > an elite of enlightened initiates who rule from behind the scenes.

> > > This found expression through the writings of Joseph Saint-Yves

> > > d'Alveydre, which called for the infiltration of "the three key

> > > pillars of society... political and social institutions, economic

> > > institutions, and religious institutions". The infamous Protocols

> of

> > > the Learned Elders of Sion (commonly known by its Old English

> > > variant "Zion") are clearly some form of manifesto for the

> > > implementation of Synarchy's aims, and are signed by

> > > the "representatives of Sion of the 33rd degree". Not

> surprisingly,

> > > the content of the Protocols have much similarity to Albert Pike's

> > > central work Morals and Dogma. Synarchy was opposed to ideas of

> > > democracy and social equality, as only the Synarchists were

> > > the "natural leaders".

> > >

> > > As the masses of Europe were rising up rebelliously against their

> > > feudal overlords, the Holy Roman Empire was in disarray. The First

> > > Reich, founded in 800 by the 'Emperor of the West' Charlemagne,

> had

> > > been smashed by Napoleon following the French Revolution. With

> > > Napoleon's eventual defeat, the Holy Roman Empire reformed in a

> > > weakened and splintered state. Prussia/Germany took the former

> > > Gnostic Cathar regions of Lorraine and Alsace back from

> revolutionary

> > > France, and established the Second Empire under Kaiser Wilhelm I.

> He

> > > was allied with the Austrian-Hungarian-Croatian Empire, which was

> > > still under the control of the Grail bloodline House of Habsburg,

> who

> > > had been ruling for the previous 600 years. Power was still very

> > > much in the hands of the Princes of Europe and the Vatican, who

> found

> > > unity within their occult "Secret Church" that has historically

> > > always existed behind the "Visible Church".

> > >

> > > Theosophy was born in 1875, a key time of political upheavals

> > > throughout Europe, as Russia was moving towards revolution,

> following

> > > the examples set by America and France. The Theosophy movement was

> > > an attempt to occultize the newly emerging industrial and merchant

> > > class and provide a spiritual antidote to Marxism straight from

> the

> > > Rosicrucian philosophy that previously had been for hand-picked

> > > initiates only. The Grail aristocratic families of the Holy Roman

> > > Empire were planning to reunify the old territories and needed the

> > > control and support of the managing classes. It is no coincidence

> > > that their plan to "infiltrate Freemasonry and seize absolute

> control

> > > of the Western World's social, political and economic

> institutions"

> > > as outlined in the Protocols of Sion appeared simultaneously with

> the

> > > Synarchy ideology and the creation of Madame Blavatsky's Theosophy

> > > movement. As the Protocols stress "Our philosophers will discuss

> all

> > > the shortcomings of the various beliefs of the manipulated. But

> no-

> > > one will ever bring under discussion our faith from its true

> point of

> > > view since this will be fully learned by none save ours who will

> > > never dare betray its secrets".

> > >

> > > At the turn of the 20th century this agenda was again outlined in

> the

> > > Priory of Sion's Hieron du Val D'Or that described "a theocracy

> > > wherein nations will be no more than provinces, their leaders but

> > > proconsuls in the service of a world occult government consisting

> of

> > > an elite. This regime of the Great King will be a double hegemony

> of

> > > the Papacy and the Empire, of the Vatican and of the Habsburgs".

> > > This ambitious scheme was thwarted with the assassination of the

> > > Habsburg heir Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria in 1914, an

> event

> > > that ignited the First World War.

> > >

> > > Theosophy's teachings about enlightened mystics guiding human

> > > evolution towards the creation of a higher super-race, and pseudo-

> > > theories about the ancient Aryan civilization of Atlantis,

> promoted

> > > dangerous racial theories that formed the core of Austrian and

> German

> > > anti-Semitism.

> > >

> > > From an aristocratic background, Helena Blavatsky, the widow of

> > > Russian Army General Count Blavatsky, designed elaborate genetic

> > > family trees that clearly illustrated the superiority of the Aryan

> > > people over the other races of the world. These strange beliefs

> were

> > > heralded by middle class occultists throughout Germany and

> Austria-

> > > Hungary and merged with their extreme right-wing nationalist

> > > politics. Hence, complete reunification of the Holy Roman Empire,

> > > effectively abolished by Napoleon in 1806, became a priority not

> only

> > > of the ruling aristocracies, but also of the merchant middle

> classes.

> > >

> > > The ensuing horrors of the First World War was an attempt to take

> > > France from the democratic Republicans by a vengeful aristocracy

> who

> > > had seen their brethren murdered by the French revolution. The new

> > > middle-class occultists such as Guido von List and his Armanen

> Order,

> > > Baron von Sebottendorf and his Thule Society, and Lanz von

> Liebenfels

> > > and the Order of the New Templars refered to the First World War

> as a

> > > Holy War, revealing the quasi-religious and philosophical motives

> of

> > > their Hidden Masters. It has been documented that Nazi party

> leaders

> > > Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Rudolph Hess and Hermann Goering

> were

> > > all members of these occult secret societies. The Protocols of the

> > > Learned Elders of Sion and the Hieron du Val d'Or are proof that a

> > > conspiracy of epic proportions was at play behind the broader

> > > political scene.

> > >

> > > The end of the First World War resulted in Kaiser Wilhelm I being

> > > banished to Belgium and the removal of the Habsburgs from the

> throne

> > > of the Second Empire--the global "hegemony of Great King and Pope"

> > > was delayed. The Habsburg's reluctant abdication was upon the

> > > insistence of the Allied nations and their Treaty of St. Germaine.

> > > Incidentally, the Order of St. Germaine is the French Royal

> Stewart

> > > equivalent of the Habsburg's Order of Sion (each laying claim to

> > > genetic superiority and Kingship of Jerusalem) - such is the

> secret

> > > subtext of European war and politics. The magickally relevant

> > > regions of Alsace and Lorraine were promptly returned to the

> Republic

> > > of France through the Treaty of Versailles, which not so much

> > > infuriated a young Hitler, as his aristocratic Hidden Masters

> behind

> > > the curtain. While their agenda had brutally backfired, the Great

> > > White Brotherhood were by no means beaten, and a simple reversal

> of

> > > the truth (a common propaganda technique) would lead them ever

> closer

> > > to their goal, and introduce the world to perhaps their greatest

> spin

> > > doctor.

> > >

> > > In his popular book Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler conveniently used the

> > > Protocols of the Elders of Sion to deceptively "prove" that a

> global

> > > conspiracy was afoot - but led by the League of Jewish Rabbis.

> This

> > > stirred massive anti-Semitism that ultimately justified the

> Holocaust

> > > to the German people. Earlier in 1919, the newly formed Thule

> > > Society had distributed copies of the controversial Protocols to

> > > troops of the White Russian army loyal to the Czar, in an attempt

> to

> > > blame the Jews for the ensuing Revolution. This led to the

> massacre

> > > of 60,000 Jews over two years, and was perhaps the beginning of

> the

> > > Jewish Holocaust. The Rosicrucian Protocols document is still used

> > > by neo-Nazi groups throughout the world to stir anti-Semitism and

> > > hate. Even today Rebublican David Duke promotes these same anti-

> > > Semitic theories on his popular website and continues to blame the

> > > Russian Revolution on the Jewish people, regardless of the

> historical

> > > oppression of the Russian people that motivated this conflict. The

> > > fact that Jerusalem's Mount Sion/Zion is prophesied (according to

> St.

> > > John's Revelation) as the place of the Second Coming of Jesus

> Christ

> > > is conveniently ignored by these right-wing groups. As is the fact

> > > that the premier secret organization dedicated to this Second

> Coming,

> > > albeit through a complex and conflicted view of genetic bloodlines

> > > and reactionary socio-political models, is the Priory of Sion.

> > >

> > > Although thought by many academics to be a creation of Russian

> Czar

> > > Nicholas II's secret police, to those aware of occult references

> the

> > > Protocols of Sion clearly show the hand of the Grail/Dragon

> > > sovereignty. It is likely the Czarists altered the texts to

> include

> > > traditional Jewish terminology that otherwise has no place in

> what is

> > > obviously a Rosicrucian agenda with Jesuit undertones.

> > >

> > > The Yiddish word "Goyim" (meaning Gentile) has been inserted in as

> > > many places as possible, even in places grammatically

> inappropriate.

> > > Written in a tone of lofty superiority, echoed in the contemporary

> > > writings of Nicholas De Vere, the masses are refered to throughout

> > > as "the Mob", "bloodthirsty beasts", "alcoholized animals"

> > > and "cattle". Passages such as "From the premier-dictators of the

> > > day the peoples suffer greatly and bear such abuses, as for the

> least

> > > of them they would have beheaded twenty kings... unification must

> be

> > > achieved only under our Sovereign rule", clearly reveal an

> embittered

> > > post-French Revolution power elite planning to restore the "King

> of

> > > the blood of Sion whom we are preparing for the World".

> > >

> > > Also overlooked in the analysis of the Protocols is their

> similarity

> > > to the little heard of "Secret Instructions of the Society of

> Jesus",

> > > which outline a goal of bringing in a golden age or millenium with

> > > the entire world under the authority of the Pope to enable the

> Second

> > > Coming of Jesus Christ. Indeed, the Jesuits' Secret Instructions

> > > could be considered a prototype of the Protocols of Sion with its

> > > rhetoric of subterfuge such as "We must inculcate this doctrine

> with

> > > Kings and Princes, that the Catholic faith cannot exist in the

> > > present state, without politics; but that in this, it is

> necessary to

> > > proceed with much certainty. Of this mode, we must share the

> > > affection of the great, and be admitted to the most secret

> > > councils."

> > >

> > > "We must be careful to change our politics, conforming to the

> times,

> > > and excite the Princes, friends of ours to mutually make terrible

> > > wars that everywhere the mediation of the Society will be

> implored;

> > > that we may be employed in the public reconciliation... the

> Society

> > > afterwards can count on the favor and authority of the Princes,

> > > procuring that those who do not love us shall fear us."

> > >

> > > Discovered towards the end of the Holy Roman Empire's Thirty Year

> War

> > > with itself that resulted in France being given part of Alsace and

> > > Lorraine (only to be later reclaimed by the Second and Third

> Empires)

> > > and cities ruined and millions dead, the Jesuits' Secret

> Instructions

> > > clearly are an inspirational source for the Protocols of Sion,

> which

> > > would be written 200 years later following the formation of

> Ancient &

> > > Accepted Scottish Rite Freemasonry. With passages such as "If the

> > > Pope should return as temporal prince of all the properties; for

> as

> > > much as it is very necessary to extend little by little, with much

> > > secrecy and skill, the temporalities of the Society; and not

> having

> > > any doubt that the world will enter the Golden Age" there can be

> no

> > > doubt that The Protocols of the Elders of Sion are the work of the

> > > Jesuits, the European Council of Princes, and their Rosicrucian

> > > allies within 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasonry. As outlined

> in

> > > the final Protocol "Confirming the roots of King David and the

> > > training of the King", the Grail/Christ bloodline conspirators

> insist

> > > that "sensuality worse than all else disorganizes the capacities

> of

> > > the mind and clearness of views" and should not be a quality of

> their

> > > King - thus denying any instinctive connection to his humanity in

> > > true Jesuit and Rosicrucian style. There is little in Judaism

> about

> > > the repressing of the senses in order to achieve any kind of

> kinghood.

> > >

> > > Following the widespread distribution of the Protocols by the

> Thule

> > > Society and Hitler's protege Alfred Rosenberg, it was the

> > > added "Jewish" elements that were seized upon by Hitler's Mein

> Kampf

> > > and Henry Ford's The International Jew. Conveniently both of these

> > > fervantly anti-Semitic works chose to ignore the Rosicrucian

> > > references of the Protocols, and the fact that the "Return of the

> > > King" agenda is not traditionally Jewish or a historical goal of

> > > Jewish Zionism, but the secret goal of the

> Catholic/Rosicrucian/Grail

> > > elites. Perhaps the popularization of the altered Protocols was an

> > > attempt at damage control, and a pointing of the finger away from

> the

> > > true authors, as their actual neo-feudalistic agenda was becoming

> > > known by political and occult scholars. Or something even more

> > > nefarious: "It is hardly credible that the baddies would reveal

> their

> > > fell purposes so blatantly", commented Foucault's Pendulum author

> > > Umberto Eco on the current recycling of the Protocols within

> popular

> > > culture and the disturbing rise of "crude forms of racism of the

> neo-

> > > Celtic kind" -- and yet the use of the Protocols was the primary

> > > justification for the Holocaust and the attempted annihilation of

> the

> > > Jews, who are regarded as the historical "perfidious Enemy" of

> both

> > > Jesuit and Rosicrucian elites.

> > >

> > > Hitler's Third Empire would go one step further than Theosophy,

> > > taking Rosicrucian and Occult theories directly to the working

> class

> > > people of Germany, and openly running the country according to

> their

> > > principles. Their use of Rosicrucian symbolism, the Swastika, the

> > > Nuremberg rallies/rituals, and inner occult orders within

> > > Himmler's "SS", who like the Knights of Malta and Dragon Court

> > > insisted upon a long heritage of pure Aryan blood before

> initiation,

> > > clearly illustrates how linked National Socialism was with the

> secret

> > > agenda and beliefs of the power elite. It is clear the Nazi

> movement

> > > was a new approach to feudalism, by the same aristocratic ruling

> > > powers. Realizing that some sense of revolution must be fulfilled

> in

> > > the ordinary working classes, Nazism gave the impression of

> > > revolution, but was in fact the Restoration of the feudal

> overlords

> > > of the Holy Roman Empire, and the beginning of the National

> Socialist

> > > deception.

> > >

> > > Hitler's personal aide escaped his clutches and fled to Britain.

> In

> > > 1939 he wrote an eye witness account of the madness of the Third

> > > Reich: "What will the social order of the future be like?

> Comrade, I

> > > will tell you. There will be a class of overlords, after them the

> > > rank and file of the party members in hierarchical order, and then

> > > the great mass of anonymous followers, servants and workers in

> > > perpetuity, and beneath them again all the conquered foreign

> races,

> > > the modern slaves. And over and above all these will reign a new

> and

> > > exalted nobility of whom I cannot speak. But of all these plans

> the

> > > militant members will know nothing. The new man is living amongst

> us

> > > now! He is here. Isn't that enough for you? I will tell you a

> > > secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was

> > > afraid of him" - Adolf Hitler quoted from "Hitler Speaks" by

> Hermann

> > > Rauschning.

> > >

> > > Hitler could not have expressed the aims of the Protocols of the

> > > Elders of Sion or the Hieron du Val d'Or more eloquently. Today

> the

> > > agenda of the power elite continues using its network of Occult

> and

> > > political structures - from the unaccountable Bilderberg Group to

> the

> > > elite of the Dragon Court, from the undemocratic Trilateral

> > > Commission to the transnational Knights of Malta. Through their

> > > influence and control the Synarchists continue to stay on top of

> the

> > > power pyramid, regardless of how much global suffering and misery

> is

> > > caused, and maintain the anti-democratic structures of a hidden

> > > feudalist system. By his own admission, the new head of the

> European

> > > Council of Princes HRH Prince Michael Stewart recently replaced

> HSH

> > > Prince Otto von Habsburg of Austria as chief representative of the

> > > thirty three Royal Houses of Europe. These are the thirty three

> Holy

> > > Grail bloodline royal families who bizarrely claim descent from

> Jesus

> > > Christ (who they believe was a Dragon high priest/king), and their

> > > historical goal remains the same. But who exactly are their

> allies?

> > >

> > > Has the Western world finally and completely internalized the

> values

> > > of the Great White Brotherhood?

> > >

> > > Again these same secret societies are revealing the inner secrets

> of

> > > their inverted belief system, in the hope of converting new

> followers

> > > in key positions of influence. Their philosophers continue to

> seduce

> > > the highest levels of the military, politics, and business, and

> reach

> > > out to the public through books, lectures, and the internet. While

> > > the economic and political power of 21st Century Synarchy spin

> > > doctors such as Sir Laurence Gardner and Prince Nicholas de Vere

> is

> > > narrow, their esteemed position and knowledge within occult

> circles

> > > will almost certainly reach many with genuine clout: namely high

> > > level Freemasons and Rosicrucians within the corporate-military-

> > > industrial complex. While most of the world naively believes

> > > democracy has truly replaced feudalism, the concentration of

> wealth

> > > in the hands of a few, with majority ownership of stocks, bonds

> and

> > > real estate, and even the 2000 American Presidential elections,

> > > proves the contrary. The richest 254 people in the world own more

> > > wealth than 47% of the global population.

> > >

> > > Right-wing conspiracy theorists mistakenly believe the goal of the

> > > secret societies is a One World Utopia, or Global Socialist State,

> > > but this couldn't be further from the truth. Synarchy's "Global

> > > Village" will be ruled by the "Dark Lords from their Castles of

> > > Darkness"; reigning supreme, uncontested, and as the past has

> shown,

> > > plotting to starve the poor to feed the rich, while a divided

> middle-

> > > class competes for the scraps--a historical socio-political model

> > > that is the norm in most developing countries. Undemocratic and

> > > inaccessible political and economic organizations - whether ultra-

> > > conservative "think-tanks" or globalization commissions -

> ultimately

> > > harness the methodology of fascism, and are the enemies of a truly

> > > democratic and open World Unity or Global Village.

> > >

> > > The biblical struggle against the anti-Christ is not some future

> > > event - it is History, past and present, and symbolic of the

> struggle

> > > between anti-hero and hero, darkness and light, feudalism and

> > > democracy.

> > >

> > > The likely consequences of the Occult Conspiracy suggest that the

> > > economic, political, and social decision making of individuals

> allied

> > > with the aims of the European aristocatic secret society network,

> > > whether in the Vatican, the British Crown, the American

> Government,

> > > European politics, transnational Corporations, or the vast

> > > bureaucracy of Nato's military machine, will consciously or

> > > unconsciously reflect their initiation, indoctrination, and

> > > allegiance to the Aryan/Rosicrucian white supremacist perception

> of

> > > the world.

> > >

> > > Having internalized their Rulers of the Universe values, mega-

> > > corporations and conglomerates backed by the WTO and other

> spurious

> > > organizations, are attempting to hold the world to ransom by

> > > copyright patenting essential items for basic human survival,

> such as

> > > human DNA, genetically modified rice and wheat that is forced upon

> > > Third World farmers, and life-saving AIDS drugs (most of which

> were

> > > developed by public-funded universities). While the poorest

> > > countries face trade sanctions for trying to stay alive, more

> > > elaborate methods of "bio-piracy" are being devised to more

> > > effectively steal the natural resources of our world. As drug

> > > companies reach yearly profits of over $1.3 billion each, the

> power

> > > elite's starve the poor to feed the rich methodology continues

> into

> > > the 21st Century. Even the CIA admits in its recent Global 2015

> > > report that the gap between rich and poor will grow greater with

> the

> > > effects of globalization. As South Africa's Nelson Mandela

> recently

> > > asked "Is there a direct link between Africa's poverty, and the

> > > Western world's wealth?" According to Rosicrucian logic, this

> > > inequality is not only necessary, but vital.

> > >

> > > The Spider's Web of cause and effect, of safe-guarding interests,

> > > wealth, resources and position, and the seeking of supreme and

> > > ultimate power--economic, political, and magickal--ultimately

> opposes

> > > all progressive moves towards global democracy and freedom, human

> > > rights and social justice, which are perceived as a direct threat

> to

> > > the New World Order historical agenda of the Great White

> Brotherhood,

> > > and their reactionary Secret Church, with all its various

> > > denominations, royal courts, orders, and covens, who find unity of

> > > purpose and intent through their Aryan white supremacist belief

> > > system.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 15

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:13:39 -0000

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > >

> > > Thank you..

> > >

> > > I have always wanted to do astral travel and meet my spiritual

> gurus to

> > > guide me

> > > further.. i have always felt them to be with me.. but i want to

> meet them

> > > and seek

> > > guidance..whenever i do meditation.. i only see as a light in a

> cave as my

> > > spiritual

> > > gurus..

> > >

> > > i guess i need some relaxation.. shaking is becomeing more as i

> keep

> > > writing and

> > > thinking about these things..

> > >

> > > AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA..

> > >

> > > anil

> > > , "pillai_george"

> > > <pillai_george> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Anil,

> > > >

> > > > Not to worry,

> > > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which goes thru all the

> > > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You will feel

> what

> > > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is very normal.Get

> ready

> > > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > > >

> > > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint Arunagirinathar.

> > > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close your eyes.

> > > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > > >

> > > > Om namah shivaya

> > > >

> > > > Yours

> > > > George Pillai

> > > >

> > > > , "anil"

> > > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Aum.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it is shaking

> > > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i feel so much

> energy

> > > > within and i am

> > > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake happening..

> > > > >

> > > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating on my being..

> > > > >

> > > > > Need immd help..

> > > > >

> > > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > > >

> > > > > rgds

> > > > > anil

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > >

> > > Message: 16

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:50:30 -0700 (PDT)

> > > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > > Re: Signals

> > >

> > > Very inspiring.

> > > Thanks,

> > > Divakar.

> > >

> > > --- pillai george <pillai_george> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a

> > > > small, uninhabited island.

> > > >

> > > > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and

> > > > every day he scanned the horizon for help, but none

> > > > seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually managed

> > > > to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect

> > > > him from the elements, and to store his few

> > > > possessions.

> > > >

> > > > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he

> > > > arrived home to find his little hut in flames, the

> > > > smoke rolling up to the sky.

> > > >

> > > > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was

> > > > stunned with grief and anger.

> > > >

> > > > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> > > >

> > > > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the

> > > > sound of a ship that was approaching the island. It

> > > > had come to rescue him.

> > > >

> > > > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man

> > > > of his rescuers.

> > > >

> > > > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> > > >

> > > > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going

> > > > bad. But we shouldn't lose heart, because God is at

> > > > work in our lives, even in the midst of pain and

> > > > suffering.

> > > >

> > > > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to

> > > > the ground, it just may be a smoke signal that

> > > > summons the grace of God.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yours

> > > >

> > > > George Pillai

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

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> > >

> > > Message: 17

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT)

> > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > > Re: Signals

> > >

> > > dear brother george

> > >

> > > your mails with various stories are highly inspirational for all

> devotees,

> > > especially for those in distress. please continue your posting

> such nice

> > > lessons whenever time permits you.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > arjun

> > > moderator

> > >

> > > pillai george <pillai_george> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small,

> uninhabited

> > > island.

> > >

> > > He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he

> scanned the

> > > horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he

> eventually

> > > managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him

> from the

> > > elements, and to store his few possessions.

> > >

> > > But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to

> find his

> > > little hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky.

> > >

> > > The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was stunned with

> grief and

> > > anger.

> > >

> > > "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.

> > >

> > > Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the sound of a

> ship that

> > > was approaching the island. It had come to rescue him.

> > >

> > > "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his

> rescuers.

> > >

> > > "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.

> > >

> > > It is easy to get discouraged when things are going bad. But we

> shouldn't

> > > lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the

> midst of pain

> > > and suffering.

> > >

> > > Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground, it

> just may

> > > be a smoke signal that summons the grace of God.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yours

> > >

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New and Improved Mail - 1GB free storage!

> > >

> > >

> > > Lord shiva

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visit your group "" on the web.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > > Message: 18

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:05:12 -0700 (PDT)

> > > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > > Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > As we all requested please take some rest and let your

> > > body adjust to your new energy. You will surely find

> > > your quests but right now you need to take care of

> > > your self. in my opinion spiritual journey is a long

> > > and arduous.

> > >

> > > From whatever I have read and personal experience, we

> > > can try to contact spiritual guides, but they will get

> > > back to us only when they feel the time is right and

> > > when we are ready for them, only in a high relaxed

> > > state we can see them or communicate with them. you

> > > dont have to focus so hard, they will communicate in a

> > > simple manner like in your thoughts or dreams or

> > > through people or happenings around you, you need an

> > > open mind and patience, sometimes you can see then

> > > also.

> > >

> > > Relax and spend time with your family, let your normal

> > > life go on as it is, spiritual things happen at a very

> > > slow pace, having so many expectations so soon will

> > > disappoint you, I am telling this out of my personal

> > > experience, things happen but they happen slowly, at

> > > the pace God wants not at the pace we want.

> > >

> > > Relax, Sleepwell, re-joice in life. Keep things

> > > simple, all great things in this world are very simple

> > > we just dont realize.

> > >

> > > Regds,

> > > Divakar.

> > >

> > > --- anil <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Thank you..

> > > >

> > > > I have always wanted to do astral travel and meet my

> > > > spiritual gurus to guide me

> > > > further.. i have always felt them to be with me..

> > > > but i want to meet them and seek

> > > > guidance..whenever i do meditation.. i only see as a

> > > > light in a cave as my spiritual

> > > > gurus..

> > > >

> > > > i guess i need some relaxation.. shaking is

> > > > becomeing more as i keep writing and

> > > > thinking about these things..

> > > >

> > > > AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA..

> > > >

> > > > anil

> > > > ,

> > > > "pillai_george"

> > > > <pillai_george> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Anil,

> > > > >

> > > > > Not to worry,

> > > > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which

> > > > goes thru all the

> > > > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's. You

> > > > will feel what

> > > > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is

> > > > very normal.Get ready

> > > > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > > > >

> > > > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint

> > > > Arunagirinathar.

> > > > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras close

> > > > your eyes.

> > > > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > > > >

> > > > > Om namah shivaya

> > > > >

> > > > > Yours

> > > > > George Pillai

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > "anil"

> > > > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Aum.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and it

> > > > is shaking

> > > > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i

> > > > feel so much energy

> > > > > within and i am

> > > > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake

> > > > happening..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it started on itw own..when i was concentrating

> > > > on my being..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Need immd help..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > anil

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Music Unlimited

> > > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.

> > > http://music./unlimited/

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> > > Message: 19

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:59:18 +0530

> > > KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

> > > Re: seeking your advice

> > >

> > > Lakshmi Jee,

> > > Please refer Message No: 795 vide Title "Mercury Shiv Lingam"

> sent by Sh

> > > Pillai George for complete details.

> > > It costs:

> > >

> > > 100 gm.INR

> <http://astroshastra.com/services/articles/parad_art.asp##>

> > > 1100

> > > USD <http://astroshastra.com/services/articles/parad_art.asp##>

> 24.46

> > > AUM Namah Shivaya

> > >

> > >

> > > On 10/20/05, goodgirllakshmi <goodgirllakshmi> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members

> > > > can some one guide me on Silver-Parad Shiv Ling.Its benifits

> and how to

> > > > get and puja procedures

> > > > lakshmi

> > > >

> > > >

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This is how people manipulate truth to spread

religion, deep in their hearts they know what they are

doing, but they do, they have money and blinded bu it,

it is bad, there will be very bad repercussions to

these actions.

 

Anyone who manipulates the truth, supresses his

conscious for simple gains will pay for it, because

God is truth and truth is god.

 

Just imagine if everybody lived by truth, this world

wil be a heaven, Truth is God, this is very simple but

it always goes above our head, in everyday life we

always manipulate the truth to impress someone, to

gain some silly materialistic thing without knowing we

are stiffiling the God.

 

 

 

--- Vijay <shankerv wrote:

 

> On Sept.20,2005, in another group on

> i.e.Hinduism_environment, while putting forward

> my views on the issue of "Conversion" I had

> mentioned

> that "....So much so that the Christianity, the

> priests

> would like to convince the masses that the Christ is

>

> the only personal saviour of human beings on this

> earth

> and all the human beings are the sinners....

> {Reference:

> Foundations of Faith (what the Bible says), page –

> 64,

> Para "Prayer"}". In the same continuation,I had also

>

> mentioned that " Religious leaders belonging to

> Islam and

> Christianity have been considering it as their

> sacred

> duty to attract people of other faiths in order to

> convert

> them by hook or by crook, by means of offering

> temptations,

> by persuasions or even by using force, if so

> desired."

>

> The website which you have mentioned, is a clearcut

> case

> of ongoing effort by some christian group/s to

> divert

> people's faith from Hinduism to Christianity.

>

> Vijay Shanker

>

>

>

>

> , Vijay

> Balachandran

> <vijayjunior@g...> wrote:

> >

> > **

> > *Attention to all,*

> > **

> > *Crude remarks have been made on lord shiva and

> ganash as well in

> this

> > website, for your kind attention.*

> >

>

http://www.themiraclesofjesusministry.org/vision-1-30-05.htm

> >

> > Regards

> > Vijay

> > On 20 Oct 2005 22:04:26 -0000,

> <

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > There are 19 messages in this issue.

> > >

> > > Topics in this digest:

> > >

> > > 1. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > > 2. Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > 3. Re: Rama and Krishna pastimes

> > > Sujata Krishna <sujatakrishna2010>

> > > 4. Re: mudras

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > 5. Re: God gave me everything

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 6. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 7. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 8. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 9. Mercury Shivalingam

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 10. Body Shaking

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 11. Jokes

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 12. Signals

> > > pillai george <pillai_george>

> > > 13. seeking your advice

> > > "goodgirllakshmi" <goodgirllakshmi>

> > > 14. Re: Spiritual Inquiries: 3. The One, The

> Three and t...

> > > "Jatadhar" <JCsharanananda@a...>

> > > 15. Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

> > > 16. Re: Signals

> > > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > > 17. Re: Signals

> > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004>

> > > 18. Re: Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > > Divakara Tanjore <div_tan>

> > > 19. Re: seeking your advice

> > > KS Rao <kasturisrao@g...>

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

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> > >

>

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> > >

> > > Message: 1

> > > Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:16:20 -0000

> > > "pillai_george" <pillai_george>

> > > Re: Need immd help..body shaking..

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > >

> > > Not to worry,

> > > Your body as received much cosmic energy which

> goes thru all the

> > > 72000 nadi's which will activate the chakra's.

> You will feel what

> > > you have mentioned earlier.(Body Shake)This is

> very normal.Get

> ready

> > > for Astral Journey after the third eye opening.

> > >

> > > As what Lord Subramaniam have told Saint

> Arunagirinathar.

> > > Keep quiet,don't think or chant any mantras

> close your eyes.

> > > Just relax,relax,relax.

> > >

> > > Om namah shivaya

> > >

> > > Yours

> > > George Pillai

> > >

> > > ,

> "anil"

> > > <anil_bindal2000> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Aum.

> > > >

> > > > Since morning my body is giving me jerks and

> it is shaking

> > > sideways, L-R, sometimes

> > > > R-L., diagonally, clockwise, anticlockwise..i

> feel so much

> energy

> > > within and i am

> > > > scared...it is like there is an eartquake

> happening..

> > > >

> > > > it started on itw own..when i was

> concentrating on my being..

> > > >

> > > > Need immd help..

> > > >

> > > > What is happening to me ??

> > > >

> > > > rgds

> > > > anil

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

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> __

> > >

>

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> __

> > >

> > > Message: 2

> > > Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:32:39 -0000

> > > "prasanna kumar" <prasannakumar21@g...>

> > > Re: Fwd: Ancient Temples Renovation.

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > > A very good effort from Sri K.S.RAO ji for a

> noble cause.I am

> happy

> > > that shiva group is helping the efforts for

> Ancient Temples

> > > Renovation.Let us all come forward help Prof. R.

> Radhakrishnan by

> > > Providing financial support needed for the

> renovation of

> dilapidated

> > > ancient temples.

> > > With Warm Regards

> > > Prasanna kumar

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Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

 

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