How to decide

October 17, 2005

I feel so much peace in being meditative state all the time, i feel inside a

chanting of

Om namah Shivaya namah om or some other mantra..this keeps on going..the only

thing which gives me internal peace and in being with self is above state..about

10

days back..while i was chanting MMJ..for 1/2 day i was in a state that i saw

Brahma in

each and everything..feeling faded on its own the way it came..for the first

time in my

life..but i want to be in state for ever..

But i have a problem.. and that is.. being in a job.. how can i all the time

remain in a no-

mind state where self arises..?

What to do when the spirituality becomes an obsession for a person who must

fulfill

the duty/responsibilities towards family,job and other worldly activities..??

i get irritation when i am distracted from meditative state..

kindly help

regards

anil

October 17, 2005

Dear Shri Anilji, please accept my respectful pranams! I bow to the Brahman in you!

It is a bliss to be in that state. However you need to control the bliss since

you are in Grihastram. I remember my very good brother Shree Ram told me to get

advice from a Guru, who can help one to control the mind and bring it under our

control. If you are married and have children you have to accomplish those

tasks first.

I have learnt that our jiva karma period is broken into three, Brahama bhaga

where we learn, etc. Vishnu bhaga where we raise family, suppor them etc. then

comes Rudra bhaga where we go for seeking Brahman etc. So if you are in the

family way do your Vishnu karma and then after that you do full time spiritual

progress.

I used to ask Lord SadhaShiva in the Shiva linga to help me with this. It took

me sometime but now I am over it. Lord Shiva will help you, keep praying him

and one day you will realise it.

SubhamDinamAstu!

SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu!anil <anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

I feel so much peace in being meditative state all the time, i feel inside a

chanting of Om namah Shivaya namah om or some other mantra..this keeps on

going..the only thing which gives me internal peace and in being with self is

above state..about 10 days back..while i was chanting MMJ..for 1/2 day i was in

a state that i saw Brahma in each and everything..feeling faded on its own the

way it came..for the first time in my life..but i want to be in state for

ever..But i have a problem.. and that is.. being in a job.. how can i all the

time remain in a no-mind state where self arises..? What to do when the

spirituality becomes an obsession for a person who must fulfill the

duty/responsibilities towards family,job and other worldly activities..??i get

irritation when i am distracted from meditative state..kindly

helpregardsanil

October 17, 2005

Dear Anil,

I feel the responsibilities come first. If you have

people depending on you, you have to fulfil their

priorities first. If you fail in this you will not be

able to get peace or face god. There is no spiritual

activity greater than carrying responsibility, fulfil

them and see the kind of permanant peace you get. I

can say this is the shortcut to god. God has given you

some responsibilities to fulfil so give first priority

to that.

remember duty is divine, yes you can continue your

spiritual journey in paralllal, use this spiritual

energy to spread good and peace around.

It is very difficult to juggle both activities but

Lord Shiva will give you strength to do it.

REgards,

Om namah shivaya

Divakar.

--- anil <anil_bindal2000 wrote:

> I feel so much peace in being meditative state all

> the time, i feel inside a chanting of

> Om namah Shivaya namah om or some other mantra..this

> keeps on going..the only

> thing which gives me internal peace and in being

> with self is above state..about 10

> days back..while i was chanting MMJ..for 1/2 day i

> was in a state that i saw Brahma in

> each and everything..feeling faded on its own the

> way it came..for the first time in my

> life..but i want to be in state for ever..

>

> But i have a problem.. and that is.. being in a

> job.. how can i all the time remain in a no-

> mind state where self arises..?

>

> What to do when the spirituality becomes an

> obsession for a person who must fulfill

> the duty/responsibilities towards family,job and

> other worldly activities..??

>

> i get irritation when i am distracted from

> meditative state..

>

> kindly help

>

> regards

> anil

>

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October 17, 2005

Hi Anil,

Very nice experiences you are having.

State of "no-mind" is probably the best thing to happen even if you

are working. I know you are not convinced about it, but that could

be because what I perceive as "no mind" is not what you

perceive. "No mind" does not make you a zombie, it rather makes you

very "centered". probably best state for both material and spiritual

world.

About how to balance spiritual practices with worldly duties, pray

to Lord Shiva to help you strike a balance. Pray for His Grace. He

will work it for you. Have that faith.

Irritation is good. make it work for you, let it goad you to pray

and surrender to Him for getting His Grace quickly!

I pray for your well-being in the journey and beyond.

Jai Ma!

October 17, 2005

Sh Anil,

You are lucky enough and blessed by the Lord to have "Saakshatkar of

Brahman". It is a great event and was possible with your great

dedication and belief. This group is lucky to have a member like you.

It is believed that with out fulfilling ones responsibilities one

cannot get this enjoyment continuously. For getting "Deeksha" as

"Sanyasi" or to renounce the world one need permission from parents,

especially from mother or from wife if married.

Please do not get disappointed or vexed up with this statement made

here. One thing is for sure that your "Kundalini Shakti" was awakened.

It is a good sign of progress in Spiritual Avenues. You may continue

your japa as you do without neglecting your basic duties and

responsibilities (What is expected from you as a Son or Father or

Husband).

In addition to your morning meditation you may do it before you go to

sleep too. You may be destined to help the society with added

blessings from Lord.

I regret very much if I hurt you in any way.

Aum Namah Shivay

On 10/17/05, anil <anil_bindal2000 wrote:

> I feel so much peace in being meditative state all the time, i feel

> inside a chanting of

> Om namah Shivaya namah om or some other mantra..this keeps on going..the

> only

> thing which gives me internal peace and in being with self is above

> state..about 10

> days back..while i was chanting MMJ..for 1/2 day i was in a state that i

> saw Brahma in

> each and everything..feeling faded on its own the way it came..for the

> first time in my

> life..but i want to be in state for ever..

>

> But i have a problem.. and that is.. being in a job.. how can i all the

> time remain in a no-

> mind state where self arises..?

>

> What to do when the spirituality becomes an obsession for a person who

> must fulfill

> the duty/responsibilities towards family,job and other worldly

> activities..??

>

> i get irritation when i am distracted from meditative state..

>

> kindly help

>

> regards

> anil

>

________________________________

>

> Visit your group "" on the web.

>

> ________________________________

>

--

KS Rao,

Navi Mumbai

Cell: 93242 94531

October 17, 2005

Anil Ji

Absolutely agree with sh KS Rao. The state of meditation that you have

attained is the result of a continuous journey of your soul. However as

has been commanded by Lord Krishna in Srimad Bagwatam, you must put your

worldly duties before your pleasures.

I can somewhat relate to you (although am not willing to go beyond this

mention as every experience is unique and specific to each and every

soul), however this is yet again a pleasure that you were destined to

achieve.

All I am able to provide you with is that slowly over the course of time

if you continue over your path with the same level of devotion as you

have until now, the answers will come from within.

The good Lord has opened your path for you and only with His grace you

will learn (in due course of time) to achieve the balance in a manner

that is right for you. However be assured that the path open to you

would be the right path for you and you would be able to recognise it

when the time comes.

Apologies for somewhat garbled message but some things go beyond the

linguistic abilities of us mere mortals and we need to remain within our

boundaries.

God bless and keep faith in the one that has given you this immense

source of pleasure.

Kind regards

Anand

[] On Behalf Of KS Rao

17 October 2005 17:01

Re: How to decide

Sh Anil,

You are lucky enough and blessed by the Lord to have "Saakshatkar of

Brahman". It is a great event and was possible with your great

dedication and belief. This group is lucky to have a member like you.

It is believed that with out fulfilling ones responsibilities one cannot

get this enjoyment continuously. For getting "Deeksha" as "Sanyasi" or

to renounce the world one need permission from parents, especially from

mother or from wife if married.

Please do not get disappointed or vexed up with this statement made

here. One thing is for sure that your "Kundalini Shakti" was awakened.

It is a good sign of progress in Spiritual Avenues. You may continue

your japa as you do without neglecting your basic duties and

responsibilities (What is expected from you as a Son or Father or

Husband).

In addition to your morning meditation you may do it before you go to

sleep too. You may be destined to help the society with added blessings

from Lord. I regret very much if I hurt you in any way.

Aum Namah Shivay

On 10/17/05, anil <anil_bindal2000 wrote:

> I feel so much peace in being meditative state all the time, i feel

> inside a chanting of

> Om namah Shivaya namah om or some other mantra..this keeps on

> going..the only

> thing which gives me internal peace and in being with self is above

> state..about 10

> days back..while i was chanting MMJ..for 1/2 day i was in a state

> that i saw Brahma in

> each and everything..feeling faded on its own the way it came..for

> the first time in my

> life..but i want to be in state for ever..

>

> But i have a problem.. and that is.. being in a job.. how can i all

> the time remain in a no-

> mind state where self arises..?

>

> What to do when the spirituality becomes an obsession for a person

> who must fulfill

> the duty/responsibilities towards family,job and other worldly

> activities..??

>

> i get irritation when i am distracted from meditative state..

>

> kindly help

>

> regards

> anil

>

________________________________

>

> Visit your group "" on the web.

>

> ________________________________

>

--

KS Rao,

Navi Mumbai

Cell: 93242 94531

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October 17, 2005

I salute to DOW ( Divine one within ) in all of you.

I am a hanuman bhakt and as per doha -- sri guru charan saroj raj, nij manu

mukuru

sudhaar..treat Hanuman ji as my Guru..

Till 2 months back i had no shradha bhav for Shivji..until..i was introduced to

MMJ by

someone..i always worshipped Lord Krishna for mukti..I only pray for my

incessant

shraddha which is never interrupted..not for any material gains..

It is the divine grace of Lord Shiva who has ordered me to worship Him now..

I bow to all that is i am all that is..

On Thursdays, there is a Sadhu who visits my parental home in Delhi ( i am based

in

gurgaon )..who when visits our house says .. Saab Gorakh ki Maya ji...and now i

understand him..

By His grace, i want to wear Rudraksh..and this craving has become a compassion

...

but i donot know which one i should wear for the state i am in .. to bring a

balance of

mind between spirituality and materality.. and then to gain wisdowm of soul for

Samsara=Nirvana..

for reference.. my DOB is 8th Nov 1963, 07:38 am ..delhi..male

With so many wishes in this group, and by divine grace, i am sure i will evolve

further..

However i have a confusion which i would like learned masters in this group to

clarify

...

I am caught in conflict .. and that is..

How should i view this world for performing duties ?

As an illusion ? but this makes me indifferent to the world.. an escapee..

OR

As Oneness - this make me a realized person seeing a oneness like i had an

experience for 1/2 day..this makes me akarta of karta..

regards

anil

, "anil" <anil_bindal2000>

wrote:

>

> I feel so much peace in being meditative state all the time, i feel inside a

chanting of

> Om namah Shivaya namah om or some other mantra..this keeps on going..the only

> thing which gives me internal peace and in being with self is above

state..about 10

> days back..while i was chanting MMJ..for 1/2 day i was in a state that i saw

Brahma

in

> each and everything..feeling faded on its own the way it came..for the first

time in

my

> life..but i want to be in state for ever..

>

> But i have a problem.. and that is.. being in a job.. how can i all the time

remain in a

no-

> mind state where self arises..?

>

> What to do when the spirituality becomes an obsession for a person who must

fulfill

> the duty/responsibilities towards family,job and other worldly activities..??

>

> i get irritation when i am distracted from meditative state..

>

> kindly help

>

> regards

> anil

>

October 18, 2005

Dear Shri Anil please accept my respectful pranams! The Shri Krishna in me bows

to the Lord Shiva in you!!! Jai Mahadeva

This bhoomi is a Karma bhoomi and not a mrityu bhoomi or yogi bhoomi. Your

realization path is that you are Sri Shiva and HE is worshipping HIMSELF. Think

this way. For the Shiva in you is trying to reach the Sadha Shiva.

You have to do your karama's, becoming a yogi is an escapism for you will be

tormented in not completing your karamas in Grihastra nor in Spritual World.

Karma Karo Shri Anil!!! and this is the only way to Mukthi in Kali Yuga.

Develop Bhakthi and concentrate on the Bhakthi maarga only.

If you meet that Yogi ask HIM to give a mantra upadesha which Matha Shree Raja

Rajeshwari gave to Lord Shiva to control the desire and anger, anger that comes

out of Frustrations in not able to complete the karma. HE will give that to

you...chant that always for you will realize that it is a web of karamas and

illusions. Then the conciousness in you will be under the control of the Lord

Shiva in you!

SubhamDinamAstu!

SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu!anil <anil_bindal2000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

I salute to DOW ( Divine one within ) in all of you.I am a hanuman bhakt and as

per doha -- sri guru charan saroj raj, nij manu mukuru sudhaar..treat Hanuman

ji as my Guru..Till 2 months back i had no shradha bhav for Shivji..until..i

was introduced to MMJ by someone..i always worshipped Lord Krishna for mukti..I

only pray for my incessant shraddha which is never interrupted..not for any

material gains..It is the divine grace of Lord Shiva who has ordered me to

worship Him now..I bow to all that is i am all that is..On Thursdays, there is

a Sadhu who visits my parental home in Delhi ( i am based in gurgaon )..who

when visits our house says .. Saab Gorakh ki Maya ji...and now i understand

him..By His grace, i want to wear Rudraksh..and this craving has become a

compassion .. but i donot know which one i should

wear for the state i am in .. to bring a balance of mind between spirituality

and materality.. and then to gain wisdowm of soul for Samsara=Nirvana..for

reference.. my DOB is 8th Nov 1963, 07:38 am ..delhi..maleWith so many wishes

in this group, and by divine grace, i am sure i will evolve further..However i

have a confusion which i would like learned masters in this group to clarify..I

am caught in conflict .. and that is..How should i view this world for

performing duties ? As an illusion ? but this makes me indifferent to the

world.. an escapee.. ORAs Oneness - this make me a realized person seeing a

oneness like i had an experience for 1/2 day..this makes me akarta of

karta..regardsanil, "anil"

<anil_bindal2000> wrote:>> I feel so much peace in being meditative state

all the time, i feel inside a

chanting of > Om namah Shivaya namah om or some other mantra..this keeps on

going..the only > thing which gives me internal peace and in being with self is

above state..about 10 > days back..while i was chanting MMJ..for 1/2 day i was

in a state that i saw Brahma in > each and everything..feeling faded on its own

the way it came..for the first time in my > life..but i want to be in state for

ever..> > But i have a problem.. and that is.. being in a job.. how can i all

the time remain in a no-> mind state where self arises..? > > What to do when

the spirituality becomes an obsession for a person who must fulfill > the

duty/responsibilities towards family,job and other worldly activities..??> > i

get irritation when i am distracted from meditative state..> > kindly help> >

regards> anil>

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October 18, 2005

my simple advice

to a balanced mind

is that

anil brother

do yoga & meditation

and japa

do japa the name of ur

ista daiva

and utter one mantra

which comes to u easily

without ur knowledge

u wil get balance in life

u can do things easily

u wil be nearer to GOD

and GOD wil hold ur hand

hare krishna

hari om

Pradeep Balakrishnan <balakrishnanpradeep > wrote:

Hari Om! Hari Bolo!