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Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Should females only between 0-9 yrs & 45 - xx yrs wear Navaratana rings/pendants? I also heard not all people can wear Navaratna. Is it true? Please advise.... Har Har Mahadev! Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: SUPER NAVARATNA (with all Flawless Gems) NOW on Sacred-Objects Home PageCheck this darshan... it's hard to find perfect quality like THIS NAVARATNA - Piece #9999 Click: sacred-objects/ Svagatam!!! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 In a message dated 10/12/2005 5:29:25 AM Central Standard Time, aparnaa_marwaha (AT) (DOT) co.in writes: Should females only between 0-9 yrs & 45 - xx yrs wear Navaratana rings/pendants? i dont think there is any age limit unless the female is wearing it for fertility. in my tradition we all wear shiva linga from time of birth to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Please accept my respectful pranams! Navaratna Rings are not for everyone. It has to consulted with a good astrologer or ask the astrologer to do a deva prashnam to check if the Navaratna ring suits you. Though many Shaivaites and Vaishnanvas or Veera Brahmins do not worship Planets, please remember Lord Rudra made the planets for a reason and gave them authority. The planets are Maha-Yogi's themselves and some of them turn malefic based on your karmas. This is also happening as per Maha Kal's orders. So not all 9 planets are favorable for anyone. I would respectfully suggest a 9 or a Gauri Shankar Mukhi Rudraksha for you to get Matha's Shri Parvathi blessings. One has to get the blessings of Matha before getting the blessings of Mahadeva. HE gets more pleased by saying him Gowrisha, UmaShankara than saying Mahadeva. SubhamDinamAstu! SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu!JCsharanananda (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: In a message dated 10/12/2005 5:29:25 AM Central Standard Time, aparnaa_marwaha (AT) (DOT) co.in writes: Should females only between 0-9 yrs & 45 - xx yrs wear Navaratana rings/pendants? i dont think there is any age limit unless the female is wearing it for fertility. in my tradition we all wear shiva linga from time of birth to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 In a message dated 10/13/2005 4:54:15 AM Central Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes: Veera Brahmins do not worship Planets, please remember Lord Rudra made the planets for a reason and gave them authority. The planets are Maha-Yogi's themselves and some of them turn malefic based on your karmas. i am curious friend, what is a veera brahmin? and additionally I am curious if you are aware that rudimentary science contradicts what you say. science says that planets are not yogis but that they are matter and gasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 In a message dated 10/14/2005 1:14:47 AM Central Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes: A veera brahmin is one who believes only his ishta devi or devatha only. He or She thinks the rests are useless or need not be worshipped or cared out. In your case it Lord Mahadeva. In my case all the attendants, his disciples, his gannas and others are all Rudra himself. Regarding science, it is so little that mortals know and preach about. I myself am a vira shaivite and in our lineage we are against brahminism and the caste system. I have not heard of a veera brahmin before. Can you show some parampara or shastra that describes itself as veera brahmin? as for science, we in vira shaivism believe that planets are planets and not yogis or gods. we also believe that the stars in the universe are similiar to our own sun.....or so to speak our sun is a star...which is not an accepted belief in some intrepretations of vedic scripture. I respect anyones right to believe what they wish as I am a lover of freedom. I additionally feel that when someone expresses a belief in a public forum that goes against grade school science they are in a position to respect the difference of opinion of those who took science class in a gradeschool. thirdly friend, I am curious what paramapara you belong to? vaishnava perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Dear Shri JC accept my respectful pranams and namakaram! A veera brahmin is one who believes only his ishta devi or devatha only. He or She thinks the rests are useless or need not be worshipped or cared out. In your case it Lord Mahadeva. In my case all the attendants, his disciples, his gannas and others are all Rudra himself. Regarding science, it is so little that mortals know and preach about. It is like a tip of needle that mortals think they know, but it is like a ocean they do not know. The human body consists of only water and other gases but how come people talk about Athma inside the same body? Science talks about binary matter which is visible and can be put to experiments with results. Spritual path can never be explained and its realisation cannot be preached either. Thatvas can only be realised in spirtiual route. So my friend Mahadeva, listen shed out the illusion of science and look at the Shiva Linga carefully you will notice a bindu at the center with 9 different alloys surrounding the bindu going in atomic vibrations. These alloys are not there in the so called periodic table. These vibrations that emit out of such a shiva linga, touch your inner self not the composition what is made of. Hope it clarifies your illusions. SubhamDinamAStu! SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu! JCsharanananda (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: In a message dated 10/13/2005 4:54:15 AM Central Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes: Veera Brahmins do not worship Planets, please remember Lord Rudra made the planets for a reason and gave them authority. The planets are Maha-Yogi's themselves and some of them turn malefic based on your karmas. i am curious friend, what is a veera brahmin? and additionally I am curious if you are aware that rudimentary science contradicts what you say. science says that planets are not yogis but that they are matter and gasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Hey JC I AM NOT A VEERA BRAHMIN, nor A Shiva Gnani like yourself, Nor a Vaishnanva. I am an ignorant trying to reach my ishta devi. Please keep this in mind before you start to hurt people. Just because I say Hari, Krishna does not mean I am a vaishnanava. You can study science and compare to Rudra, for that is your Shiva caught in a web of illusions. You do not need to be a scientist to become Sri Kannappa. The spiritual plane is entirely different than that of the science plane you know or preach here in this forum. SubhamDinamAstu! SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu! JCsharanananda (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: In a message dated 10/14/2005 1:14:47 AM Central Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes: A veera brahmin is one who believes only his ishta devi or devatha only. He or She thinks the rests are useless or need not be worshipped or cared out. In your case it Lord Mahadeva. In my case all the attendants, his disciples, his gannas and others are all Rudra himself. Regarding science, it is so little that mortals know and preach about. I myself am a vira shaivite and in our lineage we are against brahminism and the caste system. I have not heard of a veera brahmin before. Can you show some parampara or shastra that describes itself as veera brahmin? as for science, we in vira shaivism believe that planets are planets and not yogis or gods. we also believe that the stars in the universe are similiar to our own sun.....or so to speak our sun is a star...which is not an accepted belief in some intrepretations of vedic scripture. I respect anyones right to believe what they wish as I am a lover of freedom. I additionally feel that when someone expresses a belief in a public forum that goes against grade school science they are in a position to respect the difference of opinion of those who took science class in a gradeschool. thirdly friend, I am curious what paramapara you belong to? vaishnava perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Veera Shaivas are also called Lingayats or Linga-yuta Brahims. I suppose they are called brahims because Basanna, the re-former was Brahim. My Grandpa passed away recently. Otherwise he would have shown some light on this. I am sure, some of your Grandparents will know. (Pls pass the info when you have it – Thanks) One can become Lingayat at anytime. As Veera-Shaivas are baptised to be one when the child is in mother’s womb. Sri Ganeshaya Namaha.... Har har Mahadev JCsharanananda (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: In a message dated 10/14/2005 1:14:47 AM Central Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes: A veera brahmin is one who believes only his ishta devi or devatha only. He or She thinks the rests are useless or need not be worshipped or cared out. In your case it Lord Mahadeva. In my case all the attendants, his disciples, his gannas and others are all Rudra himself. Regarding science, it is so little that mortals know and preach about. I myself am a vira shaivite and in our lineage we are against brahminism and the caste system. I have not heard of a veera brahmin before. Can you show some parampara or shastra that describes itself as veera brahmin? as for science, we in vira shaivism believe that planets are planets and not yogis or gods. we also believe that the stars in the universe are similiar to our own sun.....or so to speak our sun is a star...which is not an accepted belief in some intrepretations of vedic scripture. I respect anyones right to believe what they wish as I am a lover of freedom. I additionally feel that when someone expresses a belief in a public forum that goes against grade school science they are in a position to respect the difference of opinion of those who took science class in a gradeschool. thirdly friend, I am curious what paramapara you belong to? vaishnava perhaps? India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 I'm probably putting my foot in where it does not belong. However seeing the idiot that I am, I am going to regardless....... This is an open forum and people with different views ought to be able to express their views without being labelled with a particular way of thinking. Parampara is something that came into existence when our fore-fathers from India felt that the knowledge of ancient wisdom was being depleted through the forces of change both from within (e.g. Buddhism & Jainism etc. demanding religion to change according to times) and from outside (as the society expanded and religions other that the dominant viewpoints reached in India from the middle east and such like). This is the reason why, people following a particular lineage or way of worshipping, tend to be stricter in their approach to the philosophy of religion and the sensitive subject of 'God' and how to view/achieve 'Him/Her'. There is nothing wrong with stricter versions of the religion; in most cases it is only in these enclosed circles where the tradition is harboured and passed on to the next generations in an un-adultered form. However there is another side to this kind of stricter form of lineage and people can become over-jealous to the fact that they start to judge everything against their form of life and that is when it no longer remains an un-adultered pure tradition and becomes a poison to the society. It is the responsibility of everyone that follows a stricter form of religion to understand that exceptionally large limit of tolerance and avoid crossing the barrier where tradition becomes bigger than 'God' himself. This is especially a heavy burden of responsibility upon the accepted 'living' experts of the particular sect/lineage to step-in and avoid or deviate over-jealous disciples of the religion from going a step too far. Please preserve the great and ancient traditions but at the same time, please observe and keep in your heart, the bigger picture of life. It is only through tolerance of each other's views that we can learn about things that we may have otherwise closed our minds from. Hope I am not too over-stepping on someone's toes but this is something I could not avoid saying. Kind regards Anand [] On Behalf Of Pradeep Balakrishnan14 October 2005 08:50To: Subject: Re: ULTIMATE HINDU TALISMAN ON VIEW Hari Om! Hari Bolo! Hey JC I AM NOT A VEERA BRAHMIN, nor A Shiva Gnani like yourself, Nor a Vaishnanva. I am an ignorant trying to reach my ishta devi. Please keep this in mind before you start to hurt people. Just because I say Hari, Krishna does not mean I am a vaishnanava. You can study science and compare to Rudra, for that is your Shiva caught in a web of illusions. You do not need to be a scientist to become Sri Kannappa. The spiritual plane is entirely different than that of the science plane you know or preach here in this forum. SubhamDinamAstu! SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu! JCsharanananda (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: In a message dated 10/14/2005 1:14:47 AM Central Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes: A veera brahmin is one who believes only his ishta devi or devatha only. He or She thinks the rests are useless or need not be worshipped or cared out. In your case it Lord Mahadeva. In my case all the attendants, his disciples, his gannas and others are all Rudra himself. Regarding science, it is so little that mortals know and preach about. I myself am a vira shaivite and in our lineage we are against brahminism and the caste system. I have not heard of a veera brahmin before. Can you show some parampara or shastra that describes itself as veera brahmin? as for science, we in vira shaivism believe that planets are planets and not yogis or gods. we also believe that the stars in the universe are similiar to our own sun.....or so to speak our sun is a star...which is not an accepted belief in some intrepretations of vedic scripture. I respect anyones right to believe what they wish as I am a lover of freedom. I additionally feel that when someone expresses a belief in a public forum that goes against grade school science they are in a position to respect the difference of opinion of those who took science class in a gradeschool. thirdly friend, I am curious what paramapara you belong to? vaishnava perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Dear Shri Anand please accept my humble pranams! What you are saying is right. Shri KS Rao and Shri Prasanna Kumar gave me a good advice not to curse our own selves. So your points are well taken at least by me. The Shiva in me respects Sri Kannappan's Bhakthi than Sri Agastya Maha Muni's veda, Gyana, Vairagya and lineage. The devotional love of a simple hunter Sri Kannappa moved Lord Shiva and I try to adore that concept. Bhakthi in all forms is powerful than the Veda, strict life style etc. SubhamDinamAstu! SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu! Anand <anand_nortel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: I'm probably putting my foot in where it does not belong. However seeing the idiot that I am, I am going to regardless....... This is an open forum and people with different views ought to be able to express their views without being labelled with a particular way of thinking. Parampara is something that came into existence when our fore-fathers from India felt that the knowledge of ancient wisdom was being depleted through the forces of change both from within (e.g. Buddhism & Jainism etc. demanding religion to change according to times) and from outside (as the society expanded and religions other that the dominant viewpoints reached in India from the middle east and such like). This is the reason why, people following a particular lineage or way of worshipping, tend to be stricter in their approach to the philosophy of religion and the sensitive subject of 'God' and how to view/achieve 'Him/Her'. There is nothing wrong with stricter versions of the religion; in most cases it is only in these enclosed circles where the tradition is harboured and passed on to the next generations in an un-adultered form. However there is another side to this kind of stricter form of lineage and people can become over-jealous to the fact that they start to judge everything against their form of life and that is when it no longer remains an un-adultered pure tradition and becomes a poison to the society. It is the responsibility of everyone that follows a stricter form of religion to understand that exceptionally large limit of tolerance and avoid crossing the barrier where tradition becomes bigger than 'God' himself. This is especially a heavy burden of responsibility upon the accepted 'living' experts of the particular sect/lineage to step-in and avoid or deviate over-jealous disciples of the religion from going a step too far. Please preserve the great and ancient traditions but at the same time, please observe and keep in your heart, the bigger picture of life. It is only through tolerance of each other's views that we can learn about things that we may have otherwise closed our minds from. Hope I am not too over-stepping on someone's toes but this is something I could not avoid saying. Kind regards Anand [] On Behalf Of Pradeep Balakrishnan14 October 2005 08:50To: Subject: Re: ULTIMATE HINDU TALISMAN ON VIEW Hari Om! Hari Bolo! Hey JC I AM NOT A VEERA BRAHMIN, nor A Shiva Gnani like yourself, Nor a Vaishnanva. I am an ignorant trying to reach my ishta devi. Please keep this in mind before you start to hurt people. Just because I say Hari, Krishna does not mean I am a vaishnanava. You can study science and compare to Rudra, for that is your Shiva caught in a web of illusions. You do not need to be a scientist to become Sri Kannappa. The spiritual plane is entirely different than that of the science plane you know or preach here in this forum. SubhamDinamAstu! SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu! JCsharanananda (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: In a message dated 10/14/2005 1:14:47 AM Central Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes: A veera brahmin is one who believes only his ishta devi or devatha only. He or She thinks the rests are useless or need not be worshipped or cared out. In your case it Lord Mahadeva. In my case all the attendants, his disciples, his gannas and others are all Rudra himself. Regarding science, it is so little that mortals know and preach about. I myself am a vira shaivite and in our lineage we are against brahminism and the caste system. I have not heard of a veera brahmin before. Can you show some parampara or shastra that describes itself as veera brahmin? as for science, we in vira shaivism believe that planets are planets and not yogis or gods. we also believe that the stars in the universe are similiar to our own sun.....or so to speak our sun is a star...which is not an accepted belief in some intrepretations of vedic scripture. I respect anyones right to believe what they wish as I am a lover of freedom. I additionally feel that when someone expresses a belief in a public forum that goes against grade school science they are in a position to respect the difference of opinion of those who took science class in a gradeschool. thirdly friend, I am curious what paramapara you belong to? vaishnava perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Dear Pradeep ji, I completely agree with you, "Bhakthi in all forms is powerful thanthe Veda, strict life style etc". Bhakti is simple love and Compassion for God, humanity and life. God is also very simple, that is why the greatest of God's avtars are very simple and loving like Lord Ram, Lord Krishna, Jesus Christ, Shiridi Sai Baba, Lord Ganesh ...etc. Even Lord Shiva is simple and Kind. the greatest scientists like Albert Einstein and Newton were very Simple, humble and very spiritual. Best Regards, Divakar. --- Pradeep Balakrishnan <balakrishnanpradeep wrote: > Hari Om! Hari Bolo! > > Dear Shri Anand please accept my humble pranams! > > What you are saying is right. Shri KS Rao and Shri > Prasanna Kumar gave me a good advice not to curse > our own selves. So your points are well taken at > least by me. > > The Shiva in me respects Sri Kannappan's Bhakthi > than Sri Agastya Maha Muni's veda, Gyana, Vairagya > and lineage. The devotional love of a simple hunter > Sri Kannappa moved Lord Shiva and I try to adore > that concept. Bhakthi in all forms is powerful than > the Veda, strict life style etc. > > SubhamDinamAstu! > SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu! > > > Anand <anand_nortel wrote: > I'm probably putting my foot in where it does not > belong. However seeing the idiot that I am, I am > going to regardless....... > > This is an open forum and people with different > views ought to be able to express their views > without being labelled with a particular way of > thinking. Parampara is something that came into > existence when our fore-fathers from India felt that > the knowledge of ancient wisdom was being depleted > through the forces of change both from within (e.g. > Buddhism & Jainism etc. demanding religion to change > according to times) and from outside (as the society > expanded and religions other that the dominant > viewpoints reached in India from the middle east and > such like). > > This is the reason why, people following a > particular lineage or way of worshipping, tend to be > stricter in their approach to the philosophy of > religion and the sensitive subject of 'God' and how > to view/achieve 'Him/Her'. There is nothing wrong > with stricter versions of the religion; in most > cases it is only in these enclosed circles where the > tradition is harboured and passed on to the next > generations in an un-adultered form. > > However there is another side to this kind of > stricter form of lineage and people can become > over-jealous to the fact that they start to judge > everything against their form of life and that is > when it no longer remains an un-adultered pure > tradition and becomes a poison to the society. > > It is the responsibility of everyone that follows a > stricter form of religion to understand that > exceptionally large limit of tolerance and avoid > crossing the barrier where tradition becomes bigger > than 'God' himself. This is especially a heavy > burden of responsibility upon the accepted 'living' > experts of the particular sect/lineage to step-in > and avoid or deviate over-jealous disciples of the > religion from going a step too far. > > Please preserve the great and ancient traditions but > at the same time, please observe and keep in your > heart, the bigger picture of life. It is only > through tolerance of each other's views that we can > learn about things that we may have otherwise closed > our minds from. > > Hope I am not too over-stepping on someone's toes > but this is something I could not avoid saying. > > Kind regards > > Anand > > > > [] On > Behalf Of Pradeep Balakrishnan > 14 October 2005 08:50 > > Re: ULTIMATE HINDU > TALISMAN ON VIEW > > > Hari Om! Hari Bolo! > > Hey JC I AM NOT A VEERA BRAHMIN, nor A Shiva Gnani > like yourself, Nor a Vaishnanva. I am an ignorant > trying to reach my ishta devi. Please keep this in > mind before you start to hurt people. Just because I > say Hari, Krishna does not mean I am a vaishnanava. > > You can study science and compare to Rudra, for that > is your Shiva caught in a web of illusions. You do > not need to be a scientist to become Sri Kannappa. > The spiritual plane is entirely different than that > of the science plane you know or preach here in this > forum. > > SubhamDinamAstu! > SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu! > > JCsharanananda wrote: > In a message dated 10/14/2005 1:14:47 AM Central > Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes: > A veera brahmin is one who believes only his ishta > devi or devatha only. He or She thinks the rests are > useless or need not be worshipped or cared out. In > your case it Lord Mahadeva. In my case all the > attendants, his disciples, his gannas and others are > all Rudra himself. > > Regarding science, it is so little that mortals know > and preach about. > > > I myself am a vira shaivite and in our lineage we > are against brahminism and the caste system. I have > not heard of a veera brahmin before. Can you show > some parampara or shastra that describes itself as > veera brahmin? > as for science, we in vira shaivism believe that > planets are planets and not yogis or gods. we also > believe that the stars in the universe are similiar > to our own sun.....or so to speak our sun is a > star...which is not an accepted belief in some > intrepretations of vedic scripture. > I respect anyones right to believe what they wish as > I am a lover of freedom. I additionally feel that > when someone expresses a belief in a public forum > that goes against grade school science they are in a > position to respect the difference of opinion of > those who took science class in a gradeschool. > thirdly friend, I am curious what paramapara you > belong to? vaishnava perhaps? > > > > Lord shiva > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the > web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > Start your day with - Make it your home page! http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Manava Parampara Jai Sita Ram , Pradeep Balakrishnan <balakrishnanpradeep> wrote: > > Hari Om! Hari Bolo! > > Hey JC I AM NOT A VEERA BRAHMIN, nor A Shiva Gnani like yourself, Nor a Vaishnanva. I am an ignorant trying to reach my ishta devi. Please keep this in mind before you start to hurt people. Just because I say Hari, Krishna does not mean I am a vaishnanava. > > You can study science and compare to Rudra, for that is your Shiva caught in a web of illusions. You do not need to be a scientist to become Sri Kannappa. The spiritual plane is entirely different than that of the science plane you know or preach here in this forum. > > SubhamDinamAstu! > SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu! > > JCsharanananda@a... wrote: > In a message dated 10/14/2005 1:14:47 AM Central Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes: > A veera brahmin is one who believes only his ishta devi or devatha only. He or She thinks the rests are useless or need not be worshipped or cared out. In your case it Lord Mahadeva. In my case all the attendants, his disciples, his gannas and others are all Rudra himself. > > Regarding science, it is so little that mortals know and preach about. > > > I myself am a vira shaivite and in our lineage we are against brahminism and the caste system. I have not heard of a veera brahmin before. Can you show some parampara or shastra that describes itself as veera brahmin? > as for science, we in vira shaivism believe that planets are planets and not yogis or gods. we also believe that the stars in the universe are similiar to our own sun.....or so to speak our sun is a star...which is not an accepted belief in some intrepretations of vedic scripture. > I respect anyones right to believe what they wish as I am a lover of freedom. I additionally feel that when someone expresses a belief in a public forum that goes against grade school science they are in a position to respect the difference of opinion of those who took science class in a gradeschool. > thirdly friend, I am curious what paramapara you belong to? vaishnava perhaps? > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Dear Shri Ram please accept my respectful pranams! I bow to the Lord Shiva in you! Thank you. I did not even know what parampara my jiva belonged to. SubhamDinamAstu! or Have a nice day! SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu! or I surrender everything to Lord Shri Krishnapsk_2 <psk_2 > wrote: Manava ParamparaJai Sita Ram, Pradeep Balakrishnan <balakrishnanpradeep> wrote:>> Hari Om! Hari Bolo!> > Hey JC I AM NOT A VEERA BRAHMIN, nor A Shiva Gnani like yourself, Nor a Vaishnanva. I am an ignorant trying to reach my ishta devi. Please keep this in mind before you start to hurt people. Just because I say Hari, Krishna does not mean I am a vaishnanava. > > You can study science and compare to Rudra, for that is your Shiva caught in a web of illusions. You do not need to be a scientist to become Sri Kannappa. The spiritual plane is entirely different than that of the science plane you know or preach here in this forum.> > SubhamDinamAstu!> SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu!> > JCsharanananda@a... wrote:> In a message dated 10/14/2005 1:14:47 AM Central Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes:> A veera brahmin is one who believes only his ishta devi or devatha only. He or She thinks the rests are useless or need not be worshipped or cared out. In your case it Lord Mahadeva. In my case all the attendants, his disciples, his gannas and others are all Rudra himself.> > Regarding science, it is so little that mortals know and preach about.> > > I myself am a vira shaivite and in our lineage we are against brahminism and the caste system. I have not heard of a veera brahmin before. Can you show some parampara or shastra that describes itself as veera brahmin?> as for science, we in vira shaivism believe that planets are planets and not yogis or gods. we also believe that the stars in the universe are similiar to our own sun.....or so to speak our sun is a star...which is not an accepted belief in some intrepretations of vedic scripture.> I respect anyones right to believe what they wish as I am a lover of freedom. I additionally feel that when someone expresses a belief in a public forum that goes against grade school science they are in a position to respect the difference of opinion of those who took science class in a gradeschool.> thirdly friend, I am curious what paramapara you belong to? vaishnava perhaps?> > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Krishna ka arth kuch istrah ka hai Krish - means - Bhoovachaka Shabda - Sukh aur Dukh, happiness and sorrow Na - means - nakaram = only happiness only sukh there is no dukh, Manava parampara yani you belong to human race. Enjoy life Manava gotra -- Enjoy the lienage Manava kul -- Enjoy the Status Manava disha -- Enjoy the Flow.... Koi Ram kaha koi krishna kahi, koi bola shiv koi bole mata sabhi eak hai ye na samja koi Sahasra sheersha poorsha, Sahasraksha Sahasrapaat. (Vishnu Sahasranamam) - Everybody needs to understand the meaning. Om Nirakaraye Namha, Om Nirupamaya Nama, Om Vishnu Rupinye nama, Om Vishnu mayaye Nama, Om Shiva Shaktaika Rupinye Nama. -- Brahmanda Purane Uttara khande, Hayagrivagasya Samveda,-- Lalitha Sahasranamam. ( Hayagriv - Lord Vishnu..... Agays ( Agastya Muni), in Brahmanda purana, Lord vishnu initates sage agastya into Lalitha upasana.) Jai Sita Ram, Pradeep Balakrishnan <balakrishnanpradeep > wrote: Hari Om! Hari Bolo! Dear Shri Ram please accept my respectful pranams! I bow to the Lord Shiva in you! Thank you. I did not even know what parampara my jiva belonged to. SubhamDinamAstu! or Have a nice day! SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu! or I surrender everything to Lord Shri Krishnapsk_2 <psk_2 > wrote: Manava ParamparaJai Sita Ram, Pradeep Balakrishnan <balakrishnanpradeep> wrote:>> Hari Om! Hari Bolo!> > Hey JC I AM NOT A VEERA BRAHMIN, nor A Shiva Gnani like yourself, Nor a Vaishnanva. I am an ignorant trying to reach my ishta devi. Please keep this in mind before you start to hurt people. Just because I say Hari, Krishna does not mean I am a vaishnanava. > > You can study science and compare to Rudra, for that is your Shiva caught in a web of illusions. You do not need to be a scientist to become Sri Kannappa. The spiritual plane is entirely different than that of the science plane you know or preach here in this forum.> > SubhamDinamAstu!> SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamastu!> > JCsharanananda@a... wrote:> In a message dated 10/14/2005 1:14:47 AM Central Standard Time, balakrishnanpradeep writes:> A veera brahmin is one who believes only his ishta devi or devatha only. He or She thinks the rests are useless or need not be worshipped or cared out. In your case it Lord Mahadeva. In my case all the attendants, his disciples, his gannas and others are all Rudra himself.> > Regarding science, it is so little that mortals know and preach about.> > > I myself am a vira shaivite and in our lineage we are against brahminism and the caste system. I have not heard of a veera brahmin before. Can you show some parampara or shastra that describes itself as veera brahmin?> as for science, we in vira shaivism believe that planets are planets and not yogis or gods. we also believe that the stars in the universe are similiar to our own sun.....or so to speak our sun is a star...which is not an accepted belief in some intrepretations of vedic scripture.> I respect anyones right to believe what they wish as I am a lover of freedom. I additionally feel that when someone expresses a belief in a public forum that goes against grade school science they are in a position to respect the difference of opinion of those who took science class in a gradeschool.> thirdly friend, I am curious what paramapara you belong to? vaishnava perhaps?> > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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