Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Swami! We should not follow a wrong person at any cost. Swami: Yes, Rohit! You are absolutely correct in this point It is better to be in zero if not plus, but should not be minus But one should try and succeed to achieve the plus Fearing that you may fall in minus you should not be in zero The system should not be discarded due to fear of error Fear of copying the examination system should not be cancelled You must be patient in studying the procedure for plus You must achieve the highest goal, which has lot of risk Without taking the risk one can not achieve the highest goal Since you are trying for the highest goal, which is the Lord The Lord will help you by catching you from the deviation What you say shall apply in the case of materialistic matters But in spiritual matters the help of the Lord is there with you You have to climb the steps with your own effort only But if you slip, certainly the Lord will come to your rescue That much help is justified and it is not partiality shown to you Such help will be extended to any traveler in the spiritual path. God is unimaginable and so all His inseparable characteristics Also become unimaginable, you can not directly detect Him. You can say that this is fire since it is hot, a direct detection But when fire and heat are unimaginable, how to detect? Veda says that God can be detected by negative analysis That is to reject every imaginable item as not God ‘Neti Neti’ means every item of the creation is rejected By the sages who said that this is not God, this is not God Finally they rejected all the items of the creation as not God God is unimaginable and is beyond this entire creation Veda says “ Yatovachah ” “ No Word can indicate God ” Aprapyamanasa ” “ Mind can not imagine God ” Namedhaya ” “ The intelligence can not discuss God ” Naisha Tarkena ” “ God is beyond all imaginations ” Yasyaamatam” “ Know that God can never be known” Gita says “ Maamtuveda Nakaschan ” “ None can know God” Regarding God, the scriptures are only the authority If the story stops at this stage, you need not worry about God When we are unable even to imagine God, why God? The real story starts now only because God becomes known But He is known not directly but only indirectly only Perception is not the only single authority of the truth Inference is also an equal authority to know the truth Direct knowledge of the object through senses is perception Indirect knowledge of the object through analysis is inference You see the fire directly with your eyes and say it is fire This is perception and no identifying mark is necessary. The inseparable characteristics of the fire are also seen The fire is burning and very hot as known by senses The inseparable characteristics are also grasped by senses Burning and heat are the inseparable characteristics of the fire Similarly if you take the case of God, perception is impossible Neither God nor His inseparable characteristics are perceived God enters an imaginable item of the creation and gives The proof of His existence through that medium The proof is not His inseparable characteristics at all Because they are also unimaginable like Himself He will make a characteristic of the medium itself Wonderful which is imaginable but special Special means that it is not seen in another place Knowledge or Jnanam is imaginable sign of the medium. Every human being has some amount of knowledge But when God enters the human body, the knowledge there Becomes Prajnanam which is the special knowledge Veda says “ Prajnanam Brahma”, no human being can show This Prajnanam , it is special only to human incarnation Thus Prajnanam is imaginable characteristic of human being So that imaginable human beings can grasp it But at the same time it is special that is wonderful However, Prajnanam is not the inseparable sign of God It is not the sign of God at all, no sign of God is known But at it acts as inseparable sign of God by which Only the existence of God is known and this does not mean God is known, the existence of unknown God is known We have recognized a person hidden in a house By His special voice, by voice you can not know The inseparable signs of the person like height, colour etc., By the yellow thread in the neck you know the lady is married And she has a husband alive, only that much is known By the yellow thread we have not seen her husband She may donate any jewel to any one but not the yellow thread The yellow thread can act as inseparable sign of her husband But the color and height of the husband are not seen by it Therefore the yellow thread can act as inseparable sign Similarly Prajnanam acts as inseparable sign of the Lord The human form with Prajnanam is like the married lady Prajnanam is the yellow thread and the Lord is like husband Prajnanam is the main characteristic of human incarnation Love and bliss are associated with Prajnanam always But the reverse is not true, you may see love and bliss But Prajnanam need not be with love and bliss. Love and bliss can be obtained in the world also They are limited and expressed as “Anandamaya Kosa” Every human being is having love and bliss in him Love and bliss are inseparable since Veda says that one gets Bliss through love only “ Rasam hyeva … Anandee” . In fact love and bliss of human beings are finite only But the love and bliss of human incarnation are infinite You may misunderstand the love and bliss of a human being To be infinite, because you have not seen their infinity Since you have not come to the human incarnation. Even the finite knowledge of a person may appear to you As infinite knowledge since you have not received it yet >From the real human incarnation, yes, the subject is Very very complicated and this is called “Brahmmajnanam” You have to catch the original diamond very carefully At every step artificial diamonds stand before you. The detection of the Lord in human form is His divine game The wrong persons claiming as human incarnations are The artificial diamonds created by the Lord only An examiner gives four answers to a multiple-choice question Three answers are wrong and one answer is correct Using your analysis you must find the correct answer Remember, the wrong answers are also set by the same examiner Please understand the delightful divine game of the Lord The producer of cinema also remunerates the villain The role is Saturn, which opposes the human incarnation The villain opposes hero in the cinema only The actors of villain and hero are good friends personally ! Jesus told “ Hate the sin but not the sinner” means the same The Hero hates the villain in the cinema only There is no hatred between the two actors Lord Vishnu and Jaya love each other in the upper world Jaya is the gatekeeper of Lord Vishnu, most faithful servant Vishnu acted as Rama and Jaya acted as Ravana Rama fought with Ravana and killed him in the war It is the entire apparent cinema only, hate Ravana but not Jaya There is no Ravana really, there is really Jaya only Ravana is the role and Jaya is the actor Role is inert dress only, Jaya is the living being Therefore you should not hate the wrong person also Oppose the wrong theory of the wrong person His wrong theory is also the dialogue written by the Lord When Sisupala scolded Krishna, Krishna was smiling, Because all those abuses were written dialogues of Krishna As actor Sisupala is Jaya and Krishna is Vishnu Jesus opposed the attraction from Saturn, that is all Jesus never scolded Saturn or even the people killing Him He knows that they are roles in the drama And their abuses were written dialogues of God Therefore argue with wrong persons and analyze truth Reject their wrong arguments, which are false But love them as your friends, realizing that They are the set roles in this divine drama by the Lord only. You have to catch the human form, no alternative, Except in the human form God remains unimaginable Even if you have caught correctly, He is not in your grip This Prajnanam gives the inference of the God The smoke is associated sign of fire but it is inseparable You have seen the smoke and not the fire at all You have inferred the existence of fire only You can infer God through the human incarnation Veda says “Asteetyeva” which means that at the maximum You can infer the existence of God but not His perception By seeing the bridge you can infer the existence of Engineer But you can not infer the place where exactly Engineer exists now Similarly on seeing this universe, you can infer existence of God But you can not infer the exact place of the existence of God Prajnanam gives the exact existence of God Like the voice of the engineer coming out from a house. The bridge is universe and the house is a particular human body Remember that the medium into which God enters must be Only the human being because knowledge can be only In the human being, not in inert statues, plants, and animals Inert objects give the existence of physical materialistic item Plants give the extra existence of life, animals give still more Extra existence of mind, finally human beings give Extra existence of intelligence which gives knowledge. Since Prajnanam means special knowledge, which is not present In any other human being, finally this concludes that Only a particular human being is the special human incarnation This may kindle jealousy and egoism in human beings, I can not help in this matter since it is the bitter truth. Gita says that He comes in the human form only. The incarnation has not come for the sake of entire humanity It has come only for those human beings who have conquered The egoism and jealousy and craved for the God to come down Therefore human incarnation is not the subject of all For all the people the incarnation acts as ordinary man only Krishna never told to any one that He is God Except to Gopikas and Arjuna who were great sages Therefore any body with jealousy and egoism need not worry About the human incarnation which is not his subject But this fellow does not keep silent with this clarification He asks the devotee about his experience of the incarnation The devotee says that he has experienced the Lord in Him This fellow becomes jealous of the devotee also He wants that the devotee also should join him He will plead that God can not be in the human form He neither experiences nor allows others to experience the Lord If he has not experienced, others also should not experience He pleads all should come to formless or statues Or past dead human incarnations who are in the pictures. The human incarnation never says to all that He is God He says and also behaves as an ordinary human being only But He allows and declares also that He is God Only to a very few really deserving devotees since He gives His experience through the medium to them In which case He can say that He is God, nothing wrong. As Nikhil rightly pointed out that all this is divine game (Leela) If one remembers this single point in his entire life He is never disturbed by any situation because Even if he is scolded by some body, he is happy Since he is a part of drama for the entertainment of Lord The person who scolds is an actor with his dialog The person who is scolded is also an actor, who weeps The scolding and weeping are directed by the Lord Both are in the service of the Lord only You have to withdraw from the worries of the world You must become peaceful by such detachment This is the state of self-realization by becoming self Then you must identify the Lord in the human form With the help of His wonderful and blissful knowledge You are tasting the bliss of the Lord just for His identity The self-peace and bliss from Lord are only intermediate They should not be permanent since both are selfish You have to sacrifice both the peace and bliss For pleasing the Lord through His service Service is worry related to the work of the Lord Therefore you are transferred from world-worry to The worry in the work of God, that is divine service Peace and bliss are temporary only in the interval. Jesus ended with terrible worry in the work of the Lord He did not end in selfish peace and bliss He also asked the devotees to sacrifice wealth and come He stated that unless one leaves his family and even life Can not be His dear disciple. He also stated that He has come with knowledge sword Not to establish peace in the family of the devotees He said that He would divide the family members All this indicates worry and disturbance in the service And not the selfish bliss and selfish peace The life histories of devotees clearly show Lot of worries and problems, not peace and bliss. His Holiness Shri Datta Swami website address: http://www.universal-spirituality.org e-mail address: swami Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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