How to get direction from the Lord

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Q.221) How to get direction from the Lord? Do

Hinduism and Christianity agree the concept of Human

incarnation? (A sincere Devotee)

 

Ans) The direction from God is always true. But then

how to approach formless God? If you ask God, He will

not reply from the sky. If you approach God in form,

it must be human being only because only human form

can reply. But in which human form God is present? God

is present in a particular human form. Even some human

beings in which, God is not present are also stating

that they are God. The actual human incarnation some

times is keeping silent, some times says that He is

God and some times says that He is not God. Arjuna

asked Krishna for direction. But Krishna may be or may

not be God. Therefore, even though Krishna is

preaching about the direction, Arjuna did not believe

blindly. He asked questions at every stage and

analysed the direction given by Krishna. Taking

benefit of doubt, he considered Krishna as a human

being only and discussed with Him at length and in

depth. Even after seeing the vision of Viswaroopam, he

continued the discussions for a long time. This means

he did not give any value to vision.

 

Even demons can give visions. Ravana showed a vision

to Rama in which he appeared killing Sita. Rama

believed and wept and wanted to stop the war. But

Vibhishana told Him that the vision is false and is

created by the demon Ravana. Therefore, one should not

decide based on the visions seen by eyes. Saturn

showed a vision to Jesus in which he showed the entire

world offering to Jesus. One should not believe the

mind with emotion. Some times the mind is also

affected by the tricks of Saturn. When Rama went to

catch the golden deer Sita heard the voice of Rama

crying for help. Sita decided that Rama was in danger.

But Lakshmana gave the argument that Rama can never be

in danger. Finally Sita was proved wrong and Lakshmana

was correct. Therefore, emotional mind will mislead

but not the logical and analytical knowledge of the

brain. Hanuman thought of committing suicide when Sita

was not found in Lanka. But He analysed and dropped

the idea. Therefore, logical and analytical knowledge

and discussion can alone give the correct direction.

In the beginning of Gita, Krishna told “ Dadami

Buddhiyogam Te……” which means that only by logical

analysis of brain, God can be achieved. After

achieving God, logic must be closed and the heart must

be opened. Sankra also told “ Jnanaadeva Tu

Kaivalyam….” Which means that only through divine

knowledge one can achieve God. After achieving God,

devotion and service will come. One cannot achieve God

through devotion, because unless you recognize the

correct form of God, how can you devote yourself to

that form? You must select one girl through analysis

and fix her as wife and then only love her and serve

her. How can you fix the best girl without analysis?

 

At the time of Jesus priests were there who always

think that old is gold and past is the last word. They

hate the present. They have no logic. When they

arrested Jesus, there were no proper discussions and

logical analysis about His case. When there were no

logical discussions, He was crucified based on simple

emotional slogans. His death was not justified and

therefore He rose and walked out. When the soldier was

leaving finally, he pierced the stomach of Jesus with

his weapon. Then blood came out. Blood will not come

out from dead body. Jesus was alive and He was brought

down by His disciples. Then He was kept in the cave.

He knew the protection of His life. He walked into

India and met the king Salivahana and talked with him.

His conversation was recorded in “Bhavishaya Purana”

of Vyasa. This scripture speaks about the future.

Vyasa wrote this long back. The verse in scripture is

“ Esa Putram Cha Mam Viddhi, Kumari Garbha Sambhavam,

Mlechcha Dharmasya Vaktaram…..”, which means “ I am

the son of the father of heaven. I was born to

unmarried girl. I preached spirituality to Muslims”.

Thus spoke Jesus to Salivahana. He stayed in India

till He attained the age of eighty-five years and died

in Kashmir. You can find the buried tomb of Jesus

there even today. On the tomb it is written “Jesus” in

Hebrew language. Jesus disappeared from home at the

age of 16 years. He returned at the age of 30 years.

He was crucified in 32nd year. From 16th year He was

in Himalayas in the association of several sages. He

was a good Sanskrit scholar. He studied all the Hindu

philosophy and this is the reason why the Christian

and Hindu philosophies are almost similar in concepts.

Krishna told that He is God. Jesus told that He and

His Father are one and the same. Krishna told that He

would come whenever there is necessity. Jesus told

that He would come again. Krishna told that He is the

only ultimate goal. Jesus told that one could attain

God through Him only. All these are same concepts.

 

There is difference between God in human form and

human being posing as God. To differentiate both,

analysis is essential like in the separation of

original diamond from artificial diamond. Once you

select the original diamond, no need of further

analysis and you can kiss and love the diamond.

Krishna was God in human form and Paundraka Vasudeva

was human being posing as God. Krishna told Bhagavat

Gita and the latter could not preach any knowledge.

Except this difference, external dress and doing

miracles were common in both.

 

The priests believed the dead messengers and did not

believe the then alive messenger. Jesus told, “Let the

dead bury dead”. This means the priests were dead

because they always lived in the past and never in the

present. Those who live in past are dead and those who

live in the present are alive. This means that the

dead priests will attend the dead messengers and the

living disciples will attend the present living

messenger. When Jesus told that He would come again,

that means the human incarnation will come again for

every next generation. Therefore, Christianity

believes in the human incarnation that comes every

time as in Hinduism. There is no difference between

the two philosophies. The human incarnations of all

the religions tell always the same point. The

followers do not take the right interpretation and

mock the other religion. The Christians criticize

Krishna and Mohammed for killing the evil people. They

say that Jesus changed all the evil people also

through love. Then why the people crucified Him? Why

they did not change by His love? Why Christianity

suggests the permanent hell for sinners after enquiry?

If love can change every body, there should not be

hell at all! Jesus told that it is better to punish

yourself instead of falling into hell permanently.

Therefore, he was indicating the punishment and hell.

He is never against the punishment of evil people. The

L.K.G. students cannot be controlled by speech like

college students. They need a strong cane for

discipline. The followers always misinterpret their

original preachers. Krishna tried His best to change

Kauravas but as a last resort only, He punished them.

Similarly, Mohammed fought as last resort only. In

fact Mohammed was the incarnation “ Kalki” who killed

evil people with a sword riding on the horse. Krishna

is Buddha while preaching Gita. He was Jesus when He

showed kindness on Sudama and Draupadi. He was

Mohammad in killing the demons. For protecting the

good people (Pandavas) and for punishing Kauravas, He

was cursed by Gandhari because of which, He died by

the arrow shot on His foot. This is crucification only

for the sake of good people like Pandavas. Both died

shedding the blood. He took the punishment on Him to

protect the real devotees like Pandavas. Krishna and

Jesus were born in the similar situations. Devil

people killed the children born on their birth dates.

Krishna left Brindavanam when He was 16 year old.

Similarly Jesus. Krishna met Gopikas again on the

seashore at His age of 30 years. Similarly Jesus

returned to home at the same age. Jesus quoted several

scriptures of Hinduism, which were filtered from the

Bible.

 

Q222) Hindus are converted in to Christians. How do

you stop this conversion?

 

Ans) I am neither Hindu nor Christian. I belong to

Universal Spirituality, which means that I am a true

Hindu and therefore simultaneously a true Christian. I

like to question the conversion being done is whether

based on conversion of religion or spirituality. If it

is religious conversion, I am not interested in the

topic. If it is a spiritual conversion, there is no

need because all religions have the same spirituality.

Religion is only an external dress and spirituality is

the same person present in all the types of dress. If

the religious conversion is aimed at a political

background by which a religion wants to increase its

number and thus wants to have a single kingdom of

Christians or Hindus, there is no spirituality. When

Jesus thought of spreading the kingdom of God, a

revolutionist thought that Jesus was aiming to remove

the Roman Government and establish Jadish rule, Jesus

refused to join hands with that revolutionist. If you

are prosperous, the first people who are jealous are

the people of your religious community only. If you

are trying to convert the entire world in to one

religion, the entire world will become jealous when

you prosper. Is this your ultimate result?

 

Only minority indicates real spirituality only to

reach God as said by both by Jesus and Krishna. Jesus

told that the path leading towards Him is very narrow.

Krishna told in Gita that one in millions only can

reach Him. Therefore, the minority is supported by the

Lord and not the majority. Quality lies in minority

only and not in majority. Jesus told that wherever two

or three people associate to praise the Lord, the Lord

dwells there. This indicates a qualitative minority

and not ignorant majority. You say that Hindus are

worried about the conversion of Hindus into

Christians. But I find at least a few Christians are

also converted in to Hindus. Perhaps, the Hindu is

worried since both the rates of conversions are not

equal. If your worry is based on this point, you are

not against the concept of conversion. If you are

against the concept of conversion, you should not have

agreed to convert Christians into Hindus also.

 

I am completely against to the conversion from one

religion to the other religion because any religion

has the same spirituality and same God. The external

dress of God and the language of spirituality-

syllabus differ from one religion to the other

religion. Therefore, there is no meaning in the

conversion. It is like two different classes of the

same school in different languages. The two classes

belong to the same standard and the same teacher goes

and teaches the same syllabus to the two classes in

their respective languages. Even if a person changed

one class to the other, the teacher and the syllabus

remains same. Whatever may be the religion, he remains

as a theist only. If a theist becomes an atheist,

then, we shall worry about him. Thus by conversion no

religion gained anything and no religion lost any

thing. After all, the person is in the same house of

spirituality and he has changed form one room to the

other. I don’t know why some people are anxious about

conversion and some other people are feeling for the

conversion. The person does not develop by conversion.

If a student changes one section to the other, his

standard did not raise. Only his language is changed

and syllabus remains same. Thus by conversion, one has

changed the culture and language only but not the

actual substance called as spirituality. Change of

culture is not spiritual progress. In every language

all standards are present. He should try to go to the

higher standard in his own language and then that is

called as academic progress. Similarly one should try

to go to higher levels of spirituality in his own

religion. One should go up vertically from lower

standard to higher standard in his own religion to

reach the goal quickly, but not go horizontally from

one religion to the other religion. The former is

called as progress and latter is waste of energy and

time.

 

If a Christian is converting Hindu in to Christianity,

I advise him “why you are so much particular about the

change in the culture which is the external religion.

The internal spirituality remains same and therefore

you have done only external conversion but not the

internal conversion. Since spirituality in both

religions remains the same, you have not converted him

at all. You have plenty of money and broad mind to

sacrifice. You help the poor Hindu because he is a

poor theist. He is not atheist.” On the same occasion

I advise the Hindu also like this, “Most of Hindus are

poor. The rich Hindu minority has no broad mind to

sacrifice to poor fellow Hindus. Neither you help the

poor people of Hinduism, nor allow them to get help

from broad-minded rich Christians. Majority of

Christians are rich and also are broad-minded. Why do

you worry? The Hindu did not become atheist by

becoming Christian. Only his external dress is

changed. He changed just his shirt only and you need

not worry about this.”

 

I wish every human being in this world to recognize

the underlying common basis of all the religions,

which is the Universal Spirituality. If that is

realized, a Christian will not worry even if the

entire world becomes Hindus and a Hindu will not worry

even if the entire world becomes Christians. Either

the Christian or Hindu should worry if the entire

world is filled with atheists. Any human being can

ware dress of any colour. Nothing is gained if

majority wears shirts of a particular colour and if

one celebrates that as victory, there cannot be more

foolish ignorance than this. One should become the

fish living in the unlimited ocean of Universal

Spirituality .One should not linger as stagnant fish

of his own river called religion. If the fish of the

river is patient to travel to the end of its religion-

river, it will find the above said ocean.

 

One can chose any religion of his choice in this

world. All religions are equal but not all the steps

in any religion. All standards in a school are not

equal but all classes in different languages of the

same standard are equal. The formless God, the form

full God like statues and the human form of God are

gradually school, college and University levels.

Hanuman is the highest among devotees and He also

gained the highest result, which is the post of

creator. No body can be wiser, more devoted and more

gifted than Hanuman. He worshipped Rama who was human

form of God in His time. In Valmiki Ramayana, there

was no single reference for Him worshipping formless

God or energetic forms like Brahma, Vishnu etc., or

statutes. Similarly there was no single reference to

Him doing Bhajans or doing meditation by mind or

discussing about God using intelligence. Hanuman

silently worked for the Lord and got the result also

silently. Thus human form of God and practical

participation in His work are highest steps to please

the Lord. You should not say that all the steps are

equal in a stare case, but all the staircases are

equal.

 

 

 

His Holiness Shri Datta Swami

 

website address: http://www.universal-spirituality.org

 

e-mail address: swami

 

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