Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Adarniya Suryaji, Namaskar! All I know is that when, as per the Gita, Arjuna expressed his doubts before Bhagwan Krishna that he was not sure as to who -- whether Kauravas or Pandavas -- would win the war, Omniscient Krishna did not reveal to him the outcome of that war bgefore hand, nor did He advise him to consult some "Veidc" or "non-Vedic" Jyotishi! On the other hand, He was very emphatic that if Arjuna got killed in the battle field he would go to heavens and if he won the war he would be the king of all the earth! "Kuru karmaiv tasmat tvam purvaih purvataram kritam..." and celebrating festivals on right days and timings is also a shastriya doctrine! That is what we want to discuss in HinduCalendar forum! With regards, Avtar Krishen Kaul - prakki surya HinduCalendar Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:36 PM Re: [HinduCalendar] The aims of HinduCal;endar forum. I. Correlating Astrology And Theory Of Karma Astrologers say that you are getting troubles due to the movement of the planets. This means that you are getting the trouble not due to your previous sins. Therefore you feel that you are unnecessarily getting troubles, even though you have not done any sin. Astrologers say that a police arrests you because you are going on a road and accidentally the police is also walking on the same road. You are very anxious to get rid of these troubles because these are unnecessary punishments for you. The astrologers exploit your anxiety by suggesting some remedies. The word Graha (planet) means that system which gives the exact result for your exact deed in exact time. The planets are just the computers. They are inert and are not independent. Only Swami can change the decisions. Therefore there is no use of worshipping the planets. One has to receive the fruits of the deeds whether good or bad (Naabhuktam Ksheeyate Karma). There is only one way to escape the fruits of the deeds. The Lord comes down in human form and undergoes the punishments for your sake and saves you. At the same time He will protect the prestige of God of Justice and the theory of Karma. This is the main reason for His human incarnation. He will never cancel the fruits of deeds. He will sacrifice Himself and protects you. When you cannot pay the fine, your father pays it. You must become eligible for such grace of the Lord. The eligibility is achieved by you when you do not aspire to get rid of the fruits of your deeds and prepare to undergo the punishments of all your sins. You should never think that the Lord should sacrifice for your sake. at the lotus feet of shri datta swami surya --- ----------- --- ----------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Lord Krishna is supreme and he knows everything.... why will lord Krishna ask arjuna to go to Jyotish ( Vedic or someother)... he didnt tell the result because he dosent want Arjuna to know the result in advance. and what is connection between this story and celebrating festivals on right days and timings ? Divakar. --- Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved wrote: > Adarniya Suryaji, > Namaskar! > All I know is that when, as per the Gita, Arjuna > expressed his > doubts before Bhagwan Krishna that he was not sure > as to who -- > whether Kauravas or Pandavas -- would win the war, > Omniscient > Krishna did not reveal to him the outcome of that > war bgefore hand, > nor did He advise him to consult some "Veidc" or > "non-Vedic" > Jyotishi! On the other hand, He was very emphatic > that if Arjuna > got killed in the battle field he would go to > heavens and if he won > the war he would be the king of all the earth! > > "Kuru karmaiv tasmat tvam purvaih purvataram > kritam..." and > celebrating festivals on right days and timings is > also a shastriya > doctrine! That is what we want to discuss in > HinduCalendar forum! > > With regards, > Avtar Krishen Kaul > - > prakki surya > HinduCalendar > Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:36 PM > Re: [HinduCalendar] The aims of > HinduCal;endar forum. > > > I. Correlating Astrology And Theory Of Karma > > > Astrologers say that you are getting troubles due to > the movement of > the planets. This means that you are getting the > trouble not due to > your previous sins. Therefore you feel that you are > unnecessarily > getting troubles, even though you have not done any > sin. > Astrologers say that a police arrests you because > you are going on a > road and accidentally the police is also walking on > the same road. > You are very anxious to get rid of these troubles > because these are > unnecessary punishments for you. The astrologers > exploit your > anxiety by suggesting some remedies. The word Graha > (planet) means > that system which gives the exact result for your > exact deed in > exact time. > > > > The planets are just the computers. They are inert > and are not > independent. Only Swami can change the decisions. > Therefore there > is no use of worshipping the planets. One has to > receive the fruits > of the deeds whether good or bad (Naabhuktam > Ksheeyate Karma). > There is only one way to escape the fruits of the > deeds. The Lord > comes down in human form and undergoes the > punishments for your sake > and saves you. At the same time He will protect the > prestige of God > of Justice and the theory of Karma. This is the > main reason for His > human incarnation. > > > > He will never cancel the fruits of deeds. He will > sacrifice Himself > and protects you. When you cannot pay the fine, > your father pays > it. You must become eligible for such grace of the > Lord. The > eligibility is achieved by you when you do not > aspire to get rid of > the fruits of your deeds and prepare to undergo the > punishments of > all your sins. You should never think that the Lord > should > sacrifice for your sake. > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami > > surya > > > > > > > > --- > ----------- > > --- > ----------- > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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