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one of my female patient(age 29) is having a bad body odour after

intercourse. she is married for last 9 years and this problem started

three moths ago. this body odour also occurs nearly five days before

each period. her body has excess temp. what is the problem?

 

snehapoorvam

vipin

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Though she is just 29, her hormone levels appear reducing and she is

perhaps progressing towards peri-menopause; check up file perimeno.rtf

in folder 'articles' in froup files. The file name will come on

screen after you click on

http://health.ayurvedaarticles/

and then click on file name 'perimeno.rtf'

Five days before period is the phase where both important hormones

are very low. Excess body temperature is what is termed 'hot

flashes'. She may have several other symptoms too.

Ayurveda has excellent means to balance hormones in such a phase. It

is no surprise for this author that women in age less than 30 are

experiencing 'peri-menopause symptoms. Few Indian women have had even

apparent menopause before this age.

 

We are just suffering for adopting western materialism based culture.

 

Dr Bhate

 

ayurveda, vipin <vipinclal wrote:

>

> one of my female patient(age 29) is having a bad body odour after

> intercourse. she is married for last 9 years and this problem

started

> three moths ago. this body odour also occurs nearly five days before

> each period. her body has excess temp. what is the problem?

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The word is not menopause in this age group, but amenorrhea, which means no

menses.

There is either primary amenorrhea, where the menses just do not occur, or

secondary amenorrhea, where they did occur for a while and then stopped.

 

The answer in both cases is "hormonal".

 

But that may be ovarian secreted hormones, or pituitary secreted ones.

For that testing, one should see a good Endocrinologist, to see signs , symptoms

and appropriate testing to determine / treat appropriate hormones.

 

Body odor is not amenorrhea or menopause. It may still be either from other

medications taken unknowingly or hormonal. Most young "modern" women, that do

take Magnesium, Selenium and such other elements, have a strange odor in their

urine, and perhaps from their body. Stopping such medications will get rid off

this body smell.

 

Borderline Uremia, from failing kidneys, or a build up of urea in the body from

whichever cause, also has its typical odor, and so does borderline hepatic

(liver) disease. Again adequate hydration, nutrition and treatment of kidney or

liver disease is recommended.

 

As far as Hormonal problems, this may be from Pituitary based hormones, which

control both body temperature and sweat secretion. This woman has increased body

temperature, which may be from Thyroid, or Adrenal over secretion, and perhaps

from MSH, Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone. Body odor may also be because of

inadequate secretion from the sweat glands, a rare Pancreatic disorder.A good

Endocrinological testing is recommended.

 

 

ayurveda wrote: There are 4 messages in this issue.

 

Message: 1

Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:20:04 -0000

"Shirish Bhate"

Re: bad body odour

 

Though she is just 29, her hormone levels appear reducing and she is

perhaps progressing towards peri-menopause; check up file perimeno.rtf

in folder 'articles' in group files.

 

ayurveda, vipin wrote:

>

> one of my female patient(age 29) is having a bad body odour after

> intercourse. she is married for last 9 years and this problem

started

> three moths ago. this body odour also occurs nearly five days before

> each period. her body has excess temp. what is the problem?

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When patient is remote, with no possibility of checking his state by

standard ways ayurveda recommends, an ayurvedist has to go mainly by

symptoms and other data provided. He has no luxury to order various

tests of modern science, the evidence based approach. Whereas modern

science practitioner has to worry all the time about protecting himself

from lawsuits, ayurvedist, with his "do no harm" (to health or vallet)

philosophy always thinks of protecting his patient first. But he can

think in the same way as ancients would have thought.

 

The lead is provided here in the data provided that the problem is

correlated to M/cycle and not due to uremia or other medication.

Patients are considered wise enough to correlate abnormal outcomes with

any medication they are taking. And an ayurvedist gets guided by his

previous experience wherein he knows that disturbances in M/cycles,

(foul smelling scanty/excess discharges, clots etc) lead to foul

odours. Most of the time, thought ayurvedist has in mind is which

possible herb, lifestyle change, food change will eliminate the root

cause of the disease, rather than how to prove his diagnosis is

correct.

 

Once a guess is made that Hormones are out-of-whack by the Vaidya, he

knows which approach to use under what circumstances. And such

situations are generally not handled remotely. Already a Vaidya is

handling the situation; the author provided just a lead to check along

theory of ayurveda which treats M/cycle problems to another ayurvedist.

Lack of pulse diagnosis brings such situations. A modern science

practitioner should not complicate the situation by tackling all

situations under which a typical symptom may appear and then

reductionist approach of carrying out several tests repeatedly (at

different times in a M/cycle) to know which hormone needs to be

supplimented! Neither body accepts this synthetic strategy as shown by

the long term outcomes of HRT. After long term medication of B/C pills

under menorrhagea, hysterectomy has been the only answer available in

modern science, when hormon imbalance exists, since already so many

side problems are created, a patient is ready for surgical guillotine!

 

It is good that ayurveda does not have separate practitioner for each

branch defined by modern science. And even if modern science can

pinpoint exact problem, neither the cause nor "exact" cure is known in

most disorders! Often the disgnoasis is "such and such gland is causing

excess/less secretion of xx hormone" after spending large sum of money.

Does it help the patient? Has anybody reversed diabetes by use of

synthetic or animal-origin Insulin?

 

The story of blind men trying to assess the shape of the elephant is

what applies to all modern diagnostics. Many lost their good organs due

to false positive tests!

 

Dr Bhate

 

ayurveda, durgesh mankikar

<d_mankikar wrote:

>

 

> The answer in both cases is "hormonal".

>

> For that testing, one should see a good Endocrinologist, to see

signs , symptoms and appropriate testing to determine / treat

appropriate hormones.

>

> As far as Hormonal problems, this may be from Pituitary based

hormones, which control both body temperature and sweat secretion. This

woman has increased body temperature, which may be from Thyroid, or

Adrenal over secretion, and perhaps from MSH, Melanocyte Stimulating

Hormone. Body odor may also be because of inadequate secretion from the

sweat glands, a rare Pancreatic disorder.A good Endocrinological

testing is recommended.

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