<ayurveda>Ayurveda and TCM

[Guest guest]

Dear Anna,

Apperently I think there is no direct connection of evolution of TCM from

Ayurveda ! Because both have evolved from one of the most ancient civilizations

existing in those periods. There principles are also differ to some extent

although there are certain striking simillarity between these two systems.

There may be influence of Ayurveda thro' Buddhist Monks on TCM when they might

have travelled from India to China for spreading Buddhism. There are certain

views in Ayurvedic Researchers that there is a direct linkage between Accu

points of TCM & Marma Points of Ayurveda. There are number of plants simillar in

either system, but still it will be bit improper to say that TCM must have been

evolved from Ayurveda unless & untill we can demonstrate good number of

demonstrable evidences to support this statement.

I am sure there will be definitely scholarly replies from our other fellow

colleagues on this interesting topic.Even I will be interested to know those

replies.

With warm regards,

Dr.Aashish Phadke M.D.(Ayurved)(Mumbai)

 

"radjfarkas" <radjfarkas

TCM

 

I am new to this group and this is my first question:

Did TCM (Traditional ) evolve from Ayurvedic medicine?

 

Anna

[Guest guest]

Dear Aashish

 

Thank-you for your reply,

 

If you believe in the existence of one consciousness,

that we are an expression of one mind, (and I am sure

that you do), then these two modalities would have to

have evolved from the same source, but with some

variations.

 

The reason I ask this is that one of the differences

is that on the Chinese 24 hour clock the stomach is

most active between 4-6pm (If I remember correctly)

but Ayurverda tells us that our digestive fire is most

active .......I think....between 11am and 1 pm?.

 

Why the different view of the highest point of

activity of the stomach?

 

These are questions that I need concrete answers to as

I am ascertaining which modality is best for my

constitution. I am a Vata

 

Anna

[Guest guest]

dear anna

 

these are different systems, and while its fun to contemplate the similarities

unfortunately

you will only confuse yourself by trying to integrate them without a good

understanding

 

the Stomach in TCM is not the same organ as the amashaya (stomach) in ayurveda -

it has

different characteristics and functions

 

the 24 hour biological clock of TCM refers to the flow of qi in the

organ-related channels,

not just the organs themselves - in this sense, the concept of "organ" in TCM is

very

broad, including mental/emotional qualities that have no direct correspondance

in

ayurveda

 

further, many of the actions we associate with the stomach in ayurveda speak

more to the

role of the spleen in TCM, which to make matters more confusing, doesn't

actually related

to the physical spleen at all

 

the best guide of when to eat is your hunger, when you keep regular hours (i.e.

in bed

before 10-11 pm)

 

best... todd caldecott

>

> If you believe in the existence of one consciousness,

> that we are an expression of one mind, (and I am sure

> that you do), then these two modalities would have to

> have evolved from the same source, but with some

> variations.

>

> The reason I ask this is that one of the differences

> is that on the Chinese 24 hour clock the stomach is

> most active between 4-6pm (If I remember correctly)

> but Ayurverda tells us that our digestive fire is most

> active .......I think....between 11am and 1 pm?.

[Guest guest]

 

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Anna