Infant sleep question

[Guest guest]

Hi, I have another question maybe the members can help me with.

I have a 10 month old daughter who is still nursing and on solids

since she was 7 months.

Since she was 3 months old she started waking every hour in the

night, sometimes every 30 minutes. Before that she slept 2-3 hours,

waking to nurse. (we co-sleep) i have weaned her off the pacifier.

It is very hard for her to fall asleep, she never stops moving and

will not lie still and relax. i have to rock her to sleep carrying

her in the sling. Even in her sleep when she wakes in the night she

will immediately start moving/crawling. and crying when she wakes

up. nursing usually puts her back to sleep.

for the last week i have been giving her fresh ground nutmeg with a

little milk and and have also tried the homeopathic remedy calm

forte, nothing seems to help much.

during the day she will nap 1 hour in the morning and afternoon. (it

takes about 45 minutes to rock her to sleep at nap time and about 1-2

hours to get her to sleep in the evening. (i used to be able to lie

her down on the bed by herself and she would fall asleep. now she

cannot lie still.)

 

any recommendations would be much appreciated as after 7 months of

this, i feel completely exhausted.

thank you

tracey

[Guest guest]

Thanks for giving an opportunity for discussing child health, a

subject most liked by this author.

 

Generally ADHD is dignosed after a baby grows three or four years

old, but modern medicine will suspect this as the case of a

hyperactive baby.

 

These days this has generated a ADHD industry, support groups and

drug market. However, a radicaly different view, probable reasons for

this type of hyperactivity and possible dietary changes are

extensively discussed at

 

http://www.psychicchildren.co.uk/Update1.html

 

It is really heartening to know that Moong bean water (Green gram) is

recommended in this page. Moong been payasam may also help.

 

Why author feels that ADHD is a marketing hype rather than a real disease, that

a six year old ADHD dignosed boy under Ritalin course, about to be thrown out

of school for hyperactivity and disturbance to the class, has become a first

rank student on whom teachers showers all her love and praise after a six month

course of recommendations given later in the post. Though he became OK in just

six months, parents have continued the Tablets as inch-by-inch progress is

noticed even today.

 

There are similar children here in India, who hardly sleep 4-5 hours

a day and they are less than 1 year old. These are very difficult to

put to sleep. Author suspects that these are all cases of super-

energy-children. The traditional Janma Ghuti, a pack consisting of

about 20 different herbs, helped two babies. The pack does have

nutmeg. One more baby was helped when mother took 5 gms cotton seed

powder along with a sweetened milk to which shatawari ghrutam was

added, twice a day. Author suspects that breast milk did not contain

adequate fat and protein, and baby used to get up due to unsatisfied

hunger. Breast milk does not have same composition even during one

feed. Initially it has more sugar and more fat in end. This satisfies

baby and most babies, if adequate milk exists, will sleep during feed

itself. If inadequate milk is an issue, you can take shatawari

ghrutam 1 - 1 tsp (twice a day) in warm milk. Fenugreek seeds, 1 tsp,

soaked during night and taken early morning along with soaked water

also helps secreting more milk.

 

Do not worry unnecessarily. Author is not suprised at these babies,

since he himself and many elderlies sleep only 5 hours and wakes up

fresh everyday. Sleep requirement is different for everyone. Dietary

recommendations given on the above link may help. Author would like to suggest a

pacifying drink:

 

Take 1 glass milk, add two dates finelly chopped, and half a glass

water. Boil on simmering heat till 1 cup remains. Add a little

cardamom, a pinch of nutmeg powder and a tsp of ghee (cow ghee if available).

Let baby drink it.

 

This is ayurvedic seretonin inducer drink.

 

Another recommendation is to give 1/2 tab of Brahmi Vati (125 mg

Tab), crushed and mixed with honey. This should be licked before

taking milk. Brahmi Vati also has Shankhpushpi or Shankhavali in it,

which pacifies mind and inducess sleep, relaxing and nourishing the

nerves. This was also given to 6 year old boy (1-1 tab) whose nerves are very

calm now and is a first ranker every year. The advantage of ayurvedic practice

is permanent rtelationship of respect and love which get built with society.

 

Many a time, inadequate digestion gives rise to gas formation in

intestines, and this makes them restless. Once the bowels are clean,

the lightness makes them calm. Janma Ghuti helps for better digestion

and elimination of gas and stools. For babies, Panch Gavya Ayurved has a

classical medicine called Bal Pal Ras, which substitutes Janma Ghuti.

 

Last and most important recommendation is to discuss this problem

with an ayurvedist in neighborhood and follow what he says rather

than this author.

 

Dr Bhate

 

 

 

ayurveda, tracey_rao <no_reply>

wrote:

>

> Hi, I have another question maybe the members can help me with.

> I have a 10 month old daughter who is still nursing and on solids

> since she was 7 months.

It is very hard for her to fall asleep, she never stops moving and

> will not lie still and relax.

[Guest guest]

My daughter used to be like that. Try some light massage and pat her back.

She may be moving because she is having growing pains, since movement helps

with muscle cramps and leg pain and such. My daughter did have ADHD and is

bipolar, and some of that may have been manifesting that early (it does in

our family). But the main thing was the leg pains and the colic. You might

want to take a look at her diet for allergens. Kids with allergies will

often act like that too. She may be a night owl, in which case you are in

for some rough years when she gets to school. Some people really do sleep in

the day and stay up at night and that also manifests very early and is

common with ADHD and bipolar people. One other thing that seems to help is

those homeopathic teething pills that are sold in drugstores and

supermarkets, I can't remember the brand name. They are very good and

harmless and seem to calm them and make them sleepy. Good luck.

Darla

 

On 1/5/06, tracey_rao <no_reply> wrote:

>

> Hi, I have another question maybe the members can help me with.

> I have a 10 month old daughter who is still nursing and on solids

> since she was 7 months.

> Since she was 3 months old she started waking every hour in the

> night, sometimes every 30 minutes. Before that she slept 2-3 hours,

> waking to nurse. (we co-sleep) i have weaned her off the pacifier.

> It is very hard for her to fall asleep, she never stops moving and

> will not lie still and relax. i have to rock her to sleep carrying

> her in the sling. Even in her sleep when she wakes in the night she

> will immediately start moving/crawling. and crying when she wakes

> up. nursing usually puts her back to sleep.

[Guest guest]

There are some good answers to this question. You might also try this: Place

the baby on the floor, bed, table, etc. sitting with the legs straight out.

Gently, push the baby's chest towards the knees while bending from the lower

back which acts like a hinge. Slowly and gently do this a few times. You may

even do this while massaging the baby. It is the same asana a the sitting

forward bend for adults.

 

GB Khalsa

[Guest guest]

thank you for your reply.

 

my daughter has very good attention, even since she was small and is

very focused on her toys or books.

it's interesting you mentioned about pain in the legs, one time i was

trying to relax her by massaging her back and noticed when i massaged

her thighs and calves that she became calm. throughout the pregnancy

i suffered bad calf muscle, and general muscle aching and still

continue to have this. so i am wondering if she has my body type

too? i have been massaging her with sesame oil every day, giving warm

baths. it hasn't helped much.

i also thought that she may be hungry and tried giving her higher

protein meal at night. i started with moong dal, then tried toor dal

and finally urad dal, noticing with urad dal a slight improvement.

today i will give ghee as i have not tried that.

 

it is not a case of too little milk, as i had a huge oversupply of

milk when she was born and had to work at reducing the supply as she

would choke and gag. but possibly the milk is low in fat and protein?

I myself am very thin. (I don't know if that makes a difference). She

has never slept directly after a feeding, but seems content and pulls

off, refusing to nurse more.

 

You mentioned I could take cotton seed powder shatawari ghutam,

should i still take this if I have an oversupply of milk? I do not

want to increase my milk supply.

 

 

> Do not worry unnecessarily. Author is not suprised at these babies,

> since he himself and many elderlies sleep only 5 hours and wakes up

> fresh everyday. Sleep requirement is different for everyone.

 

it's not the ammount of sleep that is difficult, it is that she wakes

every hour crying. And I do not feel rested, also having constant

headaches and aching body.

 

 

Dietary

> recommendations given on the above link may help. Author would like

to suggest a pacifying drink:

>

> Take 1 glass milk, add two dates finelly chopped, and half a glass

> water. Boil on simmering heat till 1 cup remains. Add a little

> cardamom, a pinch of nutmeg powder and a tsp of ghee (cow ghee if

available). Let baby drink it.

 

thank you for this recommendation, but my baby is not drinking cows

milk yet (i think after one year maybe, but she is primarily

nursing). Is there any other recommendation?

>

> This is ayurvedic seretonin inducer drink.

>

> Another recommendation is to give 1/2 tab of Brahmi Vati (125 mg

> Tab), crushed and mixed with honey. This should be licked before

> taking milk. Brahmi Vati also has Shankhpushpi or Shankhavali in

it,

 

I'm not sure if honey is ok to give to a small infant, could i mix

the brahmi vati with breast milk?

 

 

> Many a time, inadequate digestion gives rise to gas formation in

> intestines, and this makes them restless. Once the bowels are

clean,

> the lightness makes them calm. Janma Ghuti helps for better

digestion

> and elimination of gas and stools. For babies, Panch Gavya Ayurved

has a classical medicine called Bal Pal Ras, which substitutes Janma

Ghuti.

 

 

thank you for this suggestion, i do not feel like she has gas, she

has regular stools and does not seem to have abdominal pain. i am

leaning more towards leg pain, and restless mind, although it is very

hard to tell!

 

thank you for taking the time to help me

regards,

Tracey

[Guest guest]

> She may be moving because she is having growing pains, since

movement helps

> with muscle cramps and leg pain and such.

 

i think this might be the case as rubbing her back does not calm her

but rubbing her legs does help.

 

She may be a night owl, in which case you are in

> for some rough years when she gets to school.

 

she doesn't wake up and want to play at night, she crys because she

wants to sleep, but it seems she can't relax to go back to sleep. it

is difficult to get her to nap in the day too. (she finally fell

asleep this afternoon completely exhausted after having been awake

since 7.30am.

 

> those homeopathic teething pills that are sold in drugstores and

> supermarkets, I can't remember the brand name.

 

hylands makes some, and i have tried clove oil on her gums when she

is teething which seems to help.

 

thank you again for your help,

tracey

[Guest guest]

thank you very much for this suggestion, i will try this, this position

helps me with my leg pain, so hopefully it will help her,

tracey

 

> There are some good answers to this question. You might also try

this: Place the baby on the floor, bed, table, etc. sitting with the

legs straight out. Gently, push the baby's chest towards the knees

while bending from the lower back which acts like a hinge. Slowly and

gently do this a few times. You may even do this while massaging the

baby. It is the same asana a the sitting forward bend for adults.

>

> GB Khalsa

>

[Guest guest]

ayurveda, tracey_rao <no_reply>

wrote:

>

> my daughter has very good attention, even since she was small and

is

> very focused on her toys or books.

 

This is exactly what this author noted in some hyperactive children

in India. Too inteligent for the age. This you would have read on the

link that was sent.

 

> it's interesting you mentioned about pain in the legs, one time i

was

> trying to relax her by massaging her back and noticed when i

massaged

> her thighs and calves that she became calm. throughout the

pregnancy

> i suffered bad calf muscle, and general muscle aching and still

> continue to have this. so i am wondering if she has my body type

> too? i have been massaging her with sesame oil every day, giving

warm

> baths. it hasn't helped much.

 

Thanks Darla for the suggestion.

 

Though it did not help much at that time, in fact it gives another

key for possible solution. Since you suffered muscle pain when

pregnant and still suffering , likelyhood of Calcium deficiency in

you is suggested. Calcium tablets of modern science get rejected

almost 85% through kidney. If inadequate Calcium in mom, breast milk

too may be deficient in Calcium, the mineral required for growth of

bones, muscles, and giving calmness to nerves (Please see message

4788 on ayurveda list). With inadequate Calcium, pains may

arise, disturbing her sleep and giving rise to cries. Furthermore,

while high Calcium deficiency during poregnancy may give rise to

spine formation deficiency, moderalte or slight Calcium deficiency

may give rise to restlessness. Solution for both mom and baby:

 

Take 5 litre hot water in a bucket, add 1 handful sea salt and about

20 gms epsom salt to it. Let dissolve. Sit on a chair and dip legs

into bucket. With a small mug remove water from bucket and pour on

knees such that it returns to bucket. YOu can try this for 10-15

minutes till water is hot and comforting. This reduces knee, calf

muscle, heel and sole pain gradually. Many arthritis patients have

tried this with a great satisfaction. For daughter, if she has a bath

tub of small size, add sea salt and epson salt to hot water and let

her enjoy comforting bath, taking care that she does not swalllow

salted water. 10 minutes before bedtime should give good comfort.

 

 

> i also thought that she may be hungry and tried giving her higher

> protein meal at night. i started with moong dal, then tried toor

dal

> and finally urad dal, noticing with urad dal a slight improvement.

> today i will give ghee as i have not tried that.

 

Idli would be better, as it is lighter for digestion, and has many

vitamins for growth and fertility. Has good protein content too. Do some

research and then take these words. In this respect, you may request experience

of few south indian moms, who are members of this list.

 

>

> it is not a case of too little milk, as i had a huge oversupply of

> milk when she was born and had to work at reducing the supply as

she

> would choke and gag. but possibly the milk is low in fat and

protein?

 

This may be the case, as suggested by next paragraph.

 

> I myself am very thin. (I don't know if that makes a difference).

She

> has never slept directly after a feeding, but seems content and

pulls

> off, refusing to nurse more.

 

 

 

>

> You mentioned I could take cotton seed powder shatawari ghutam,

> should i still take this if I have an oversupply of milk? I do not

> want to increase my milk supply.

 

Yes, the suggestion makes milk higher in fat and protein content, not

necessarily increase the quantity of milk (if supply is adequate).

 

> it's not the ammount of sleep that is difficult, it is that she

wakes

> every hour crying. And I do not feel rested, also having constant

> headaches and aching body.

 

You are perhaps passing on your stress and mineral deficiency to her?

 

> > Take 1 glass milk, add two dates finelly chopped, and half a

glass

> > water. Boil on simmering heat till 1 cup remains. Add a little

> > cardamom, a pinch of nutmeg powder and a tsp of ghee (cow ghee if

> available). Let baby drink it.

 

Breast milk may be substituted for Cow milk anytime for all humans.

 

 

 

> I'm not sure if honey is ok to give to a small infant, could i mix

> the brahmi vati with breast milk?

 

Honey is predigested sugar, one which will not destablise Calcium in

blood. Ayurveda recommends giving it to even 2 month old baby. When

mother milk is inadequate, in India, we used to get a plastic ball

with a nipple. The baby will keep licking honey filled in ball and

feel satisfied. The material of the nipple was the one used for

surgeons gloves. Honey digests and mixes in blood in less than an

hour, after 120 minutes excess honey will be rejected in urine.

 

 

Finally, let whole group benifit, post results of your decisions after a month

or so. Other moms will get educated (so also Vaidyas).

 

 

Dr Bhate

[Guest guest]

Dr Bhate, thank you for your reply.

 

Do you (or any other group member) know where I can find the

following recommended medicines online?

 

Janma Ghuti (I find it on the dabur website, but they do not sell it

there)

Cotton seed powder

Brahmi vati

 

(I found Brahmi capsules at my local indian grocer, is this the same

as brahmi vati? also, what about brahmi oil, i found that at

banyanbotanicals.com)

 

Thank you again, I have already begun drinking the milk mixture and

taking calcium supplement. Now I am looking to get the other

recommended herbs. I tried giving a little ashwaganda in ghee, i

don't know if this is recommended, but it is all I have on hand at

the moment.

 

Tracey

[Guest guest]

ayurveda, tracey_rao <no_reply>

wrote:

> Janma Ghuti (I find it on the dabur website, but they do not sell

it

> there)

> Cotton seed powder

> Brahmi vati

>

> (I found Brahmi capsules at my local indian grocer, is this the

same

> as brahmi vati? also, what about brahmi oil, i found that at

> banyanbotanicals.com)

 

Brahmi Capsules no good as you cant reduce the capsule dose easily.

Brahmi oil you can apply on babies head advantageously, just an hour

before bath or bed time. Generous massage with light pressure on

scalp, and with a finger tip in the crown area (the skull is very

soft in this area, about half an inch radius) yields miraculous

results, especially if massage is done by mother. Many babies smile

even during sleep, but such incidences are rare.

 

Only Dabur seem to be caring children. Anyway, it will not be easy to

get it online, since used predominantly in Indian culture. Cotton

seed powder is available in Mumbai, that too only in one small area

only. You may find it in an Indian grocery stores, if lucky. Nobody

recommends these traditional single herb solutions these days, and

therefore availability is becoming poor.

 

Brahmi Vati you may be able to get on allayurveda.com Check that it

contains Shankhpushpi, Jatamansi.

 

>

> I have already begun drinking the milk mixture and

> taking calcium supplement. Now I am looking to get the other

> recommended herbs. I tried giving a little ashwaganda in ghee, i

> don't know if this is recommended, but it is all I have on hand at

> the moment.

 

Ghee OK. But Ashagandha should be given boiled in milk, same way as

dates. (dates for baby as well as mom). But use Aswagandha powder

only 1/4 tsp. Mentat, suggested by other member, already contains

Aswagandha. Secondly, when you boil cow milk, addition of water and

boiling till water part evaporates is to make cow milk as digestible

as breast milk. Boiling breast milk may not be a good idea, since it

will drive away enzymes, vitamins already present. Since Cow milk you

get may already be pasteurised, this question does not arise.

 

When breast fed children are concerned, it is a wise policy to prune

their prescritption and add same thing to mom's prescription, since

she will moderate everything to make suitable for baby.

 

Best health for baby,

Dr Bhate

[Guest guest]

Hello Dr Bhate,

I have ordered the janma ghuti online and am waiting for it to come.

If I cannot find the cotton seed powder, should I still take (order)

the shatawari for myself?

 

Should I also give my daughter Mentat as well as the Janma Ghuti? Or

try one first and then the other if no relief comes?

 

Finally, I have noticed one more thing. Last night she did not sleep

more than half an hour at a stretch before waking and crying, even

while sleeping she would move around and moan. I noticed that the

more I nursed her, the less she slept and more uncomfortable she

seemed. Ever since she was small she has only nursed for maybe 2-3

minutes and then she has had enough. But she will nurse every 1-3

hours. Maybe she is only the foremilk and having problems with

digestion?

Today I will reduce the time between nursings and see if that helps.

 

Thank you again for your help,

Tracey (and daughter Kalyani)

[Guest guest]

tracy,

 

Her nursing only for 2-3 minutes and waking up crying after less than

an hour or so suggests that she is having inadequate hunger and

digestion too, perhaps due to sluggish liver. This may give rise to

leg pain, back pain too. Before arriving at this conclusion, author

tried to test this on a sister discipline of ayurveda. Breast milk

indigestion cases are rare, but with chemical sea, pollution,

vaccines, distancing ourselves from nature, everything is possible.

It is not known how you are giving Urad dal, a most difficult bean to

digest. Are you giving any vegetable soups, especially leafy ones?

 

With remote discussion of this type, one has to go by method of

elimination, while nearby ayurveda practitioner will arrive at the

root quickly. Give slight pressure by three middle fingertips of

hand, slightly below the last rib, and just in the plumb line from

right nipple and check baby's reaction. Repeat, now with just two

fingertips at solar plexus. This way you can check entire stomach

too, check if any soreness or hardness. Percussion, i.e. using three

finger tips on belly as if you are playing a percussion music

instrument (e.g. Tabla) may also be used to check if gas is forming.

This tests are easy to describe, but interpretation is better with

more experience. Gas formation can be easily tackled without ordering

anything online.

 

Mentat can be given along with Janma Ghuti, but confirm dosage from

the member who suggested it. By the way, Janmaghuti requires grinding

on a stone, either with water or a little breast milk. In India we

use the same stone used for grinding sandalwood to paste. Janma Ghuti

has everything required to tackle digestive problems, from

indigestion, constipation, worms, to loose motions etc.

 

Already many suggestions from Goup members have come. Let they be

tried. Though suggestions had diversity, such thinking helps. All

angles will be covered.

 

Do not expect quick results shown by allopathic injections. Problem

is not just 2-3 days old, but from last 7 months. So allow at least 7

days to see some change. You may note change in color, consistency,

volume, frequency of stools.

 

Shatawari can be taken, if cotton seed not available.

 

Blessings to daughter

Dr Bhate

 

 

 

 

ayurveda, tracey_rao <no_reply>

wrote:

> I have ordered the janma ghuti online and am waiting for it to come.

> If I cannot find the cotton seed powder, should I still take

(order)

> the shatawari for myself?

>

> Should I also give my daughter Mentat as well as the Janma Ghuti?

Or

> try one first and then the other if no relief comes?

>

> Finally, I have noticed one more thing. Last night she did not

sleep

> more than half an hour at a stretch before waking and crying, even

> while sleeping she would move around and moan. I noticed that the

> more I nursed her, the less she slept and more uncomfortable she

> seemed. Ever since she was small she has only nursed for maybe 2-3

> minutes and then she has had enough. But she will nurse every 1-3

> hours. Maybe she is only the foremilk and having problems with

> digestion?

> Today I will reduce the time between nursings and see if that helps.

[Guest guest]

Tracy

Just 1 ml, diluted twice or thrice with warm water, after meal/breakfast/feed,

at maximum thrice a day. Twice a day should also be adequate, but watch stools

and then it can be changed later. The dose can be given approx. after 30-60

minutes after the end of meal/breakfast/feed.

 

The fetal position of sleeping suggests anxiety about pain etc. But do not

worry. Janma Ghuti alone should take care of most of problems.

 

Dr Bhate

 

 

 

Dr Bhate,

 

the janma ghuti syrup arrived today, it is a liquid. the whole box

is not in english so can you please advice the dosage? before or

after meals, etc.

 

the first company i ordered the mentat from cannot supply it, i am

trying to order it from someone else.

 

thank you again for your help

tracey

[Guest guest]

In a remote discussion where patient and vaidyas sit at opposite end

of globe, there can be utter confusion, since Vaidya cant see the

patient, touch the patient, check pulse etc. In the infant sleep

question, the querry attracted quite many replies from Vaidyas, and

more and more info was provided by mother. Since the baby is on

breast milk and household light food such as Moong bean water, the

question of colic arising from mothers diet did not arise at all!

 

But there is another angle to the case, as shown by the following

publication:

 

Researchers discovered that breastfeeding mothers who take all the

possible allergens out of their diet are far less likely to have a

colicky baby.

 

Researchers recruited 107 breastfeeding mothers whose babies - all

aged six weeks or less - were suffering from colic, which involved

them crying or fussing for five or more times each day.

 

Half the mothers were put on a low allergen diet - which excluded

dairy products, soy, wheat, eggs, peanuts, tree nuts and fish - while

the rest included one portion of wheat and peanuts, one chocolate-

covered cereal bar, and a drink containing soya and milk in their

daily diet.

 

The mothers on the low allergen diet reported a marked improvement in

their babies' behaviour, and their babies were sleeping for an

additional hour and a half a day.

 

Ref: Pediatrics, 2005; 116: 709-15

 

While diet is a problem in western countries, in India, this question

does not arise, since nursing mothers are given special treats made

from various rich nutrients like cow ghee, fenugreek, guugal etc, and

Janma Ghuti takes care of colic quite well. By Janma Ghuti author

does not mean the one made by Dabur, but a collection of about twenty

herbs, which some mothers know how to vary the proportion daily to

take care of babies problems.

 

This also show how important it is to ask a woman if she is nursing,

while writing the prescription! The importance of treating both as a

single patient can not be over empasized.

 

Tracy, can you check up if your diet is causing problems for you

daughter?

 

Dr Bhate

 

 

ayurveda, tracey_rao <no_reply>

wrote:

> Dr Bhate,

>

> the janma ghuti syrup arrived today, it is a liquid. the whole box

> is not in english so can you please advice the dosage? before or

> after meals, etc.

>

> the first company i ordered the mentat from cannot supply it, i am

> trying to order it from someone else.

>

> thank you again for your help

> tracey

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr Bhate,

we have consulted our family astrolger and he has indicated that my

daughter's mercury is debilitated, causing nervous tension high vata

etc...he recommends worship of tulsi devi, chanting visnu

sahasranama, eating green foods and wearing of emerald etc.

just thought this information might be of interest to you.

 

i noticed with the janma ghuti (from dabur) that her bowel movements

became more watery and after a week her behaviour did not change. so

i have stopped that medicine.

 

i don't think my diet is causing her any problems. i eat a very

simple diet of rice, moong dal, chapati, paneer, some tofu, with

pitta reducing vegetables and fruits. oh and warm milk at night.

 

i have tried a few new things that seem to be helping. one is

rubbing brahmi oil on her head at night. the other is i myself am

drinking a herbal tea that is called "yogi sleepytime" it has herbs

like skullcap, passionflower and valerian and for the last 2 days she

seems much calmer, sleeping 2-3 hours at night, and not crying much

when she wakes. she is also less hyper.

i have also changed her diet to heavier foods reducing the ammount of

fruit.

 

so whether the improvement is because of these changes, or because of

my mother in laws chanting of the visnu sahasranam, our worship of

tulasi devi or a combination, some improvement is definitely

happening.

 

(i am still waiting for the mentat syrup to arrive).

thanks again for your help,

tracey

[Guest guest]

you have tottaly wrong diet and u r trying to be your own doctor n

keep trying new things on your child like she is a kind of

laboratory. Bottom line, u need to see Ayurvedic Practitioner. I have

one and half year old daughter and she doing extremly good with

proper Ayurvedic Lifestyle. i m giving u here wakeup call. I m

practitioner with very straight talk....

 

Till then bye for now n take care....thanks...

 

Rakesh Modi

Ayurved Centre,

Toronto, Canada

www.AyurvedToronto.com

 

ayurveda, tracey_rao <no_reply>

wrote:

>

> Hi Dr Bhate,

> we have consulted our family astrolger and he has indicated that my

> daughter's mercury is debilitated, causing nervous tension high

vata

> etc...he recommends worship of tulsi devi, chanting visnu

> sahasranama, eating green foods and wearing of emerald etc.

> just thought this information might be of interest to you.

>

> i noticed with the janma ghuti (from dabur) that her bowel

movements

> became more watery and after a week her behaviour did not change.

so

> i have stopped that medicine.

[Guest guest]

ayurveda, tracey_rao <no_reply>

wrote:

my

> daughter's mercury is debilitated, causing nervous tension high

vata

> etc...he recommends worship of tulsi devi, chanting visnu

> sahasranama, eating green foods and wearing of emerald etc.

> just thought this information might be of interest to you.

 

Author had noted this already. NOte the words "sister discipline of

ayurveda' in an earlier post. Hence Brahmi Vati or equivalent syrup

was indicated. We are highly affected by environment in the house.

Academicians are not taught the science of Nada - Brahma, Japa,

Rudraksha etc. So chanting of traditional mantras DOES help. Vishnu

Sahastra nama casette by M. S. Suba Lakshmi is best in whatever

little knowledge this author has. Wife of Vishnu, i.e. Tulsi is

another goddess where one goes for Prasadam when mind is disturbed or

nerves are tense. See how tulsi cured a bipolar patient, in archives

of ayurveda.

 

>

> i noticed with the janma ghuti (from dabur) that her bowel

movements

> became more watery and after a week her behaviour did not change.

so

> i have stopped that medicine.

>

 

This is frequent observation that when toxins (ama) leave the body,

the best way they can leave is loose motions, not watery ones. Watery

indicate stronger toxins, which body eliminates with large force.

Anyway, if you just try 2-5 drops instead of 1 ml as suggested

earlier you may have very mild response. increase gradually, so that

the response remains always mild. Janma Ghuti is such a traditional

remedy that it will not give any adverse effects if correct dosage is

kept.

 

 

> so whether the improvement is because of these changes, or because

of

> my mother in laws chanting of the visnu sahasranam, our worship of

> tulasi devi or a combination, some improvement is definitely

> happening.

>

 

That is a good news. Ayurveda's discoveries have been always through

communicated experience. A search on the net reg long term use of

herbs you are taking may be useful, since they are of western origin.

 

Lastly, that there is a need for consultation with an ayurvedist in

the neighbourhood was brought out in the very first message on your

post, by which author still stands. However, if problem resolves this

way, well and good.

 

Dr Bhate

[Guest guest]

thank you for your advice, we do not have any ayurvedic doctors

nearby and i am trying to do my best in the absence of a qualified

practitioner. i am taking her to a western naturopathic doctor next

week as this is the closest we have to an ayurvedic practitioner.

otherwise we must travel out of state to see an ayurvedic doctor.

tracey

 

> you have tottaly wrong diet and u r trying to be your own doctor n

> keep trying new things on your child like she is a kind of

> laboratory. Bottom line, u need to see Ayurvedic Practitioner.

[Guest guest]

Tracey,

U can do one thing is that u can visit our website

www.AyurvedToronto.com and fill-out ONLINE CONSULTATION FORM, so we

will get maximum ideas and we can send u whatever is neccessary.

 

As we practice in Toronto Canada, we have clear idea of western world,

hlike the mentality - lifestyle - food style of western societies.

 

if u still have any question or concern pls feel free...

 

Till then bye for now n take care....thanks...

 

Rakesh R. Modi

www.AyurvedToronto.com

 

> thank you for your advice, we do not have any ayurvedic doctors

> nearby and i am trying to do my best in the absence of a qualified

> practitioner.

[Guest guest]

thank you for your offer, we are travelling to New Zealand next week

and I am trying to organise to see a doctor there, as there are

several in Auckland.

Thanks again,

Tracey

 

ayurveda, indianlovebird_m

<no_reply> wrote:

>

> Tracey,

> U can do one thing is that u can visit our website

> www.AyurvedToronto.com and fill-out ONLINE CONSULTATION FORM, so we

> will get maximum ideas and we can send u whatever is neccessary.

[Guest guest]

This question had generated more than 23 responses, highest number

after the responses on Veg/Non veg debate. Having received another

query off-list, which is also appended at the end, author offers a

simple home remedy based on water.

 

In yesterdays 'Iron rules..' post, question of calmness of mind and

water element of body was indicated. The remedy given herein tries to balance this element.

 

Take 1 litre of water, boil it so that it remains only 25%. Remove

from fire. Grind about 50 grams onion in mixer and add it to hot

water. Let cool. Strain. Take 5 ml (50 drops) water from this, add 5

drops honey and give it to sleepless baby. Depending on age of baby,

give once or twice a day. for babies getting up frequently, keep

giving even three-four times a day.

 

If you can find an indian nearby, find out how they use cloth pram

(craddle), hung from the hook in ceiling, and given a gentle

oscillation. the oscillatory movement makes baby calm, as if she is

still in womb. This helps. All these mercurian babies, get hypnotized

by oscillations, a rhythm hypnotizes a mercurian. Based on ver limited knowledge of music, author also suggests Beethoven or other types of classical music, as this can be very soothing for a baby. Classical music can also help with a baby’s intellect.

 

dr bhate

 

 

ayurveda, tracey_rao <no_reply

wrote:

>

> Hi, I have another question maybe the members can help me with.

> I have a 10 month old daughter who is still nursing and on solids

> since she was 7 months.

> Since she was 3 months old she started waking every hour in the

> night, sometimes every 30 minutes. Before that she slept 2-3

hours,

> waking to nurse. (we co-sleep) i have weaned her off the pacifier.

> It is very hard for her to fall asleep, she never stops moving and

> will not lie still and relax. i have to rock her to sleep carrying

> her in the sling. Even in her sleep when she wakes in the night

she

> will immediately start moving/crawling. and crying when she wakes

> up. nursing usually puts her back to sleep.

> for the last week i have been giving her fresh ground nutmeg with a

> little milk and and have also tried the homeopathic remedy calm

> forte, nothing seems to help much.

> during the day she will nap 1 hour in the morning and afternoon.

(it

> takes about 45 minutes to rock her to sleep at nap time and about 1-

2

> hours to get her to sleep in the evening. (i used to be able to lie

> her down on the bed by herself and she would fall asleep. now she

> cannot lie still.)

>

> any recommendations would be much appreciated as after 7 months of

> this, i feel completely exhausted.

> thank you

> tracey

>

 

I am a regular reader of your posts. My seven-month-old granddaughter

is not sleeping very well through the night. She often wakes several

times and it's difficult to get her back to sleep. She is being

breast-fed by my daughter who also uses goats milk supplement. My

daughter uses organic produce and gives her baby bifidum. The baby is

happy and well during the day but rarely sleeps unless in her pram

while out for a walk. Chamomilla has been tried to no avail as has

cranial osteopathy, which is short lived. Can you offer any

suggestions to help?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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