Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dear Friends, Reading Jagganathji's post on meditative yoga, especially the last part where he wrote that practicing pranayama can be dangerous if one does not know the proper procedure has inspired me to write this post. I believe Pranayama is one of the most potent and powerful practices one can do. It purifies the Ida, Pingala and Shushumna Nadis, as well as other nadis, which allows the Kundalini to "rise" through the Chakras, energizing and cleansing each Chakra as the energy enters it. This can be one of the most beautiful and beneficient experiences one can have. If done correctly, different techniques of Pranayama can cure many, many ailments, and bring us to higher awareness. However, if the practitioner of Paranayama is not educated on the correct way to do the practice, it can be very very dangerous. I have a friend who attended a Kundalini (as per the late Yogi Bhajan) class, and had an experience that left him ill for several years. In my opinion, "Kundalini" Yoga as directed by Yogi Bhajan is the most intensive and advanced practices of Yoga Asana. I believe is for the advanced student who knows how to direct the flow of Prana, and also has a strong mind. He did everything the instructor said, including, in my opinion, the very intense pranayama that is part of the Kundalini Yoga practice. Being a complete novice, my friend was not aware of the effects of Yoga Asana practice or Pranayama. When I asked him how his first Yoga class went, he said to me that he felt some thing "Shoot out of me" during one of the more intense Pranayam. He said it felt like "Someone stuck a knife in my shoulder." The Prana "shot" out of him at the location of Brihati Marma point, which is the medial edge of the scapula, midway beteween the inferior and superior angles, Vitiation of pranic flow through the Brihati Marma point is associated with Lung dysfunction, shoulder dysfunction, and is closely related to the Heart Chakra. This caused him very bad physical problems with his shoulder, and also to have a cold heart. This was 3 years ago, and only after seeking attention from a Vaidya who practices Marma Therapy did he have some relief. However, the efffects of the flow-out of the prana through the Brihati Marma point still continue to give him problems today. He continues to have Vata related issues in the shoulder and the Heart Chakra. He has found many websites of people who were seriously hurt or who sufferred serious psychological problems after practicing these intense Pranayams associated with Kundalini Yoga. So, this is not an isolated incident. After searching the web, I too found many sites warning people about these practices. In Ayurveda, we call this "flow out" of a Srota. On a physical level, what happened to him could be compared to a puncture in an artery. The blood would flow out everywhere as it would not have a channel or vessel to control its flow. When we practice Pranayama, we increase the flow of Prana through our subtle body and its system of Nadis. Like veins and arteries channel the flow of blood, Nadis channel the flow of Prana. We must be educated before we practice Pranayama. My advice to anyone starting to practice, or has interest is to seek a good teacher. Books, tapes, and even Ram Dev on the TV is not enough education on how to control the flow of prana while practicing Pranayama. A "safe" Pranayama that will not vitiate the doshas, and a good one for a begginner is "Anuloma-Viloma" or alternate nostril breathing, done only for a few minutes a day, and not retaining the breath untill one is more experienced. Kapalabati or "breath of fire" as it is sometimes said is indeed a powerful Pranayam, but one must know what they are doing and have a good teacher. I welcome any discussion on Pranayama, its potential bad effects, and its positive effects, and any stories of being cured by Pranayama. As I stated before, it has the ability to erradicate disease. With Warmest Regards, Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dear Tony, Greetings. Thank you for the wonderful and highly educative post. There was a lot to learn from it. I came to know of the dangers of full fledged pranayama from the book "Raja Yoga" by Swami Vivekananda. He very clearly states that full fledged pranayama can be practised only if all the rules and regulations prescribed in the Patanjali Yoga Sutras can be met. He also says that in the Kali Yuga with the polluted environment it is best not to attempt Raja Yoga practices. This book prompted me to study books by Pandit Gopi Krishna. He had an unwitting Kundalini Awakening experience which, as evident from his own description, was particularly horrifying. The kundalini energy had risen through the wrong channel in his case. Another book which interviews Pandit Gopi Krishna also describes the experiences of J Krishnamurthy. Sri Krishnamurthy also had an unwitting arousal but was under the personal supervision of Annie Besant. In our scriptures too we find that kundalini yoga is a merciless force if one does not have the protective umbrella of a trained teacher. We have read of the tremendous experiences of Sri Krishna Chaitanya and Sri Ramakrishna, which cannot be borne by ordinary individuals. It may take many lifetimes of practice before one becomes an adept in kundalini yoga. In case of Sri Shyama Charan Lahiri Mahashaya we see that he had practised in his earlier birth also and his Guru was waiting for him to be reborn so that he could complete the process. In many forums I read of people who claim that they practice kundalini yoga on their own after receiving Shaktipat from some Indian Guru. I prefer to keep quiet knowing that such people will learn only after going through some horrific experience. In the Ramakrishna Mission centre which I frequent many young lads turn up yearning to learn pranayama and kundalini yoga. The monks do their best to dissuade them but we have seen three cases where very bright young students have suffered irreversible damage after doing pranayama on their own for long hours hoping to attain spiritual powers. One of them still visits the ashrama but is a ghost of his former self. I do four basic pranayama exercises for 10 minutes each (OM, kapalbhati, anulom bilom and bhramari). I do it very slowly, without any kind of haste and doing shavasana after each. I do not retain the breath either during inhaling or exhaling. Like you said my own teacher here also warns against overdoing kapalbhati. It can make the body hot he says and says it must be restricted during summer months when it should be replaced with sheetali. I fully agree with you that pranayama is best done under supervision. Regarding kundalini yoga I only study it out of interest and not with the intention of practicing. Thank you again. Regards, Jagannath. ayurveda, "mantra_media" <mantra_media> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > that practicing pranayama can be dangerous if one does not know the proper procedure > has inspired me to write this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dear Tony, It is good that you have brought out the experience of your friend. After mention of breathing techniques invented by Guru Padmasambhava and their benifits in some posts, several members have requested (off- list) that those techniques be taught through posts. However, knowing fully well that these techniques cant be taught fully through a mass medium like this, author declined posting any details. Pranayama should be learnt from an experienced person, who knows possible mishaps. Dr Bhate ayurveda, "mantra_media" <mantra_media> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Reading Jagganathji's post on meditative yoga, especially the last part where he wrote > that practicing pranayama can be dangerous if one does not know the proper procedure > has inspired me to write this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Thanks for this information. I also read somewhere that there was a woman who called herself practioner and she tries to raise the Kundalini serpent in children. Is that appropriate? mantra_media <mantra_media wrote:Dear Friends, Reading Jagganathji's post on meditative yoga, especially the last part where he wrote that practicing pranayama can be dangerous if one does not know the proper procedure has inspired me to write this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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