Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Sir This is what I wrote in my original mail. I do not think I have written anything that qualifies me to be a "loud mouth". I have never felt more insulted in my life. I will be very grateful if you ensure mankikar issues an unconditional apology and takes back his statement. Thank you Bob. > Drgesh > What is criterion to issue the licence to practice medicine? Is it > intention, results, and acceptance by patients? In the UK many > people including the Royal family go to quacks and not the licenced > people. My wife Dory is a nurse and does not allow me anywhere near > qualified doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Dear Bob, If anybody should apologize for hurting your feelings I think it should be me for I edited and approved the said message. For the past 4 years inspite of all my efforts there comes a time when I need to take some hard decisions. This time too steps should have been taken during the Jaganath-Mankikar confrontation but somehow the later messages indicated a reconciliation between the two and hence any direct intervention was avoided on my behalf. However the memories of that confrontation seem to pervade all further postings. The post in which Dr. Mankikar made the said remarks is a case in point. If you read the post carefully, the remark is not made against anyone individual but against the ayurvedic community as a whole. One of the reason the message was posted as it is because we face much harsher criticism here in India and hence we tend to take statements like this in our stride. Infact even in his generalised statement about Prince Charles, Dr. Mankikar is grossly mistaken. Prominent personalities tend to get swayed by "emerging trends" and in fact consult people who are not trained in their field. In case of ayurveda atleast these are people who have thier basic training in modern medicine, have strong prejudices and think that because they understand some ayurvedic words they know ayurveda "better". They then talk about "modernising", "standardising" and "what-not-ising" ayurveda. When their bubble bursts, ayurveda is discredited even without thinking that the said person was not meant to be consulted at all. So Prince Charles (if he does so) may not be consulting a properly trained ayurvedic professional at all. Dr. Mankikars greatest grouse seems to be the medicines sometimes suggested in the messages. Many group members who are doctors (whether of modern medicine or ayurveda or other fields) have always pointed out that proper prescription cannot be given without physically examining the patients. Very right. But the suggestions on this group are not prescriptions. But it altleast creates an awareness that such a medicine exists. It atleast makes a person aware that an alternative is available. All our tall talk on how there are ayurvedic medicines for every conditions would empty if people are not aware of them. Actually that is one of the major factor which has held back ayurvedic medicine. The groups aim is to basically do that. Inform people about ayurveda and related topics. That has been the motto since the inception of the group. The other of Dr. Mankikar's complaint is that non-licensed and non- trained persons making comments on modern medicine. While we would like this to be an exclusive ayurveda group, in todays world we cannot remain totally aloof of happenings in other fields similar to our own. Almost every post on topic not related to ayurveda has a source somewhere on the internet (that is why the moderators have resorted to providing only the links in such messages). It is not possible to check the veracity of each link mentioned and the contents within. But we have also never blocked any post which mentions that the information provided is wrong. It is upto people in that field to defend whatever they think is wrong. But Dr. Mankikar is instead killing the messenger. Well Bob, since this is a open for all group, I cannot ask anybody to offer any kind of apology let alone an unconditional one. But I can assure you that the comment was not meant for you alone. I offer my apologies for the mental stress it has caused you and maybe this will give us moderators a warning to be more stringent in moderating messages. Cybervaidya > I have never felt more insulted in my life. > I will be very grateful if you ensure mankikar issues an unconditional apology and takes back his statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Sir I am sorry you had to take so much trouble for my sake. I now understand Mankikar's comments were directed at Jaganath. But that does not absolve him. I hope he mends his ways. Bob. Cybervaidya <cybervaidya wrote: Dear Bob, If anybody should apologize for hurting your feelings I think it should be me for I edited and approved the said message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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