Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 On 21-Aug-05, at 4:07 AM, ayurveda wrote: > Dear Sir, > > The doctors of the like of Raghunath Mashelkar now have taken the safe > route of trying to "modernise" ayurveda. He talks of isolating the > "active ingredients" of herbs and then maybe finding a chemical > equivalent so that allopaths can embrace ayurveda in its folds and > thereby nullify the threat. It should be noted > that such attempts have already been made and have failed to deliver > the desired results. For example, whereas the plant Rawolfia > Serpentina is a potent medicine in the hands of ayurveds in lowering > high blood pressure, there is no way that sarpagandha was ever used to lower blood pressure because the technology to measure BP never existed prior to modern medicine if a practitioner uses sarpgandha to lower BP, whether crude extract or the isolated alkaloid, he or she is NOT practicing Ayurveda the only way to stop the medicalization of herbs and ayurveda is to demonstrate that it is MORE than just using herbs - it is the SYSTEM of their use, which in many respects contradicts and challenges prevailing medical beliefs or limited pharmacological evidence - see my accompanying discussion "Dr. Venugopal and CVD" Caldecott todd www.toddcaldecott.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Dear It is good to see you post after such a long time. How are you? But though "BP", an allopathic term, may not have been measured earlier, the symptoms clearly were widely known as "manas vata". Some years back when my father was diagnosed with "high BP" I took him to a reputed local ayurved here who prescribed "Cardimap" of Maharshi Ayurved, a preparation which contains Sarpagandha. He responded very well till he decided to consult an allopath for some other problem. When the doctor came to know he was taking "Cardimap" he tried to dissuade him by saying that the medicine would cause deep depression. It took quite a lot of persuasion on my part, including dowloading relevant literature from the net, to convince him not to discontinue. Similiarly, a friend of mine was taking "Neeri" of Alarsin Laboratories for his kidney stones prescribed by an ayurved and which contained the herb, "patharkuchi". However the "specialists" managed to convince him that no medicine existed for dissolving stones. After a few months of discontinuation my friend had to be hospitalised with severe pain and put on drips. He desparately asked me to procure the "Neeri" tablets and the homeopathic tincture, "Berberis Vulgaris", once again which he secretly started taking. In three days he passed ash coloured urine and the matter being resolved he was discharged from the hospital. In both the cases the medicines were taken under the supervision of an ayurved. Regards, Jagannath. > > there is no way that sarpagandha was ever used to lower blood pressure > because the technology to measure BP never existed prior to modern > medicine > if a practitioner uses sarpgandha to lower BP, whether crude extract or > the isolated alkaloid, he or she is NOT practicing Ayurveda > > the only way to stop the medicalization of herbs and ayurveda is to > demonstrate that it is MORE than just using herbs - it is the SYSTEM of > their use, which in many respects contradicts and challenges prevailing > medical beliefs or limited pharmacological evidence - see my > accompanying discussion "Dr. Venugopal and CVD" > Caldecott > todd@t... > www.toddcaldecott.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hi Jagannath the symptoms of high BP (or hypertension) are mostly non-existent, which is why hypertension is called the "silent killer" however, there are usually concomitant symptoms that indicate the metabolic dysfunction that underlies the condition - but this is a fairly new understanding, and most people/doctors aren't orientated to removing the cause in reality, (essential) hypertension isn't a disease at all but a symptom - its like being diagnosed with a sore big toe - its says nothing specifically about the underlying etiology - its an effect of some kind of obstruction in the arterial system that impairs blood flow, usually from a narrowing of the lumen from atherosclerosis or from hormonal factors that promote the retention of sodium - all of this functions to raise the pressure in the arterial system hypertension cannot be equated with manas vata - i suspect your practitioner simply used a formula that contained rauwolfia to lower BP because he/she already knew you had hypertension - there is nothing wrong with this, except that it has nothing to do with Ayurveda nor any other form of traditional herbal medicine - its how most scientific western herbalists work, using herbs as "little drugs" Caldecott www.toddcaldecott.com > But though "BP", an allopathic term, may not have been measured > earlier, the symptoms clearly were widely known as "manas vata". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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