Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 On 22-Aug-05, at 3:41 AM, ayurveda wrote: > I think Dr. Venugopal has very effectively separated the two schools > when he requested this list to discuss the concept of cardiovascular > disease based upon ayurvedic terminology alone. i must have missed this thread... anyway, i would agree that if we want to consider CVD from an Ayurvedic perspective we should first remove any discussion of medical terms and diagnostic methods - it simply confuses the issue at the same time, i think it is similarly helpful to expand our notion of CVD and recognize the kind of metabolic changes that occur prior to specific "disease" states such as hypertension, angina pectoris, truncal-abdominal obesity etc. etc. to borrow a computer term, in order to "port" CVD into Ayurveda, we need to look at the various signs and symptoms represented by it and its larger syndrome (syndrome X, metabolic syndrome) - but we do so knowing that of course this is an artificial process, because in truth Ayurveda always looks at the individual, not a disease or group of symptoms nonetheless, what we call CVD/metabolic syndrome does manifest signs and symptoms that are clearly recognized in Ayurveda, some of these resembling aspects of the hrdaya rogas (heart diseases), as well as more specific entities such as medo roga (obesity), madhameha (glycosuria), shotha (edema), udara roga (abdominal enlargement), vata vyadhis (nervous system disorders: neuropathies), svasa (dyspnea: SOB), etc etc the way I look at it, CVD is caused by a number of different factors, although I think there are some general causes that are very clear, e.g. poor diet, lack of exercise, nutrient deficiencies etc. - this in turn aggravates any 1, 2 or 3 doshas (given the specific factors and prior history), each responsible for the differing signs and symptoms seen in CVD as CVD is essentially a disease of the blood it is by nature associated with pitta, but because rakta arises from rasa we need to look to kapha as well - vata represents the long-standing, degenerative aspects of the disease, or otherwise specific vattika symptoms i also think its important to look at specific factors in the blood, which by some traditions in Ayurveda acts as its own dosha, i.e. the fourth dosha (note that this becomes very similar to the four humors of Unani) an assessment of rakta (blood) is determined by a number of parameters including the constitution of the blood (inferred from diet/digestion, elimination, skin), its movement (inferred from a myriad of factors including systemic/local temperature, pain, fatigue, SOB, arrhythmias, vertigo, etc.), and blood vessel integrity (inferred from factors such as chronic bleeding/ bruising, varicosities, retinopathies etc.) - apart from case history analysis, physical observation, urinalysis etc. other assessments might include pulse (to determine the overall balance of vitality and specific doshic influences), tongue (to determine digestion), and even therapeutic venesection (i.e. noting the features of the blood, its color, smell, how it oozes etc ) - (in this respect, leeches can thin the blood, dissolve clots and reverse sclerosis...) evenually, what is needed is a therapeutic framework for a pop'n of CVD patients based only on Ayurvedic principles, using medical parameters such as BP, blood, ECG etc. the model would need to be standardized in the sense that it encompasses all the parameters an Ayurvedic physician might likely observe in such a population, but not so that it becomes too expansive that it becomes meaningless - we could call this the "Ayurvedic CVD Intervention Program," with each lakshana correlated with a medical symptom/sign i suggest a long term 2-3 year study, self-reporting questionnaires and biannual medical testing this could then be compared with a simialr pop'n receiving conventional treatment - and we will see what the results are it could be that any differences in them not only suggest the effectiveness over one or the other, but elucidate possible differences in the very nature of the two systems that is, if there are any silent and incredibly wealthy benefactors on this list that would like to fund such an endeavour, i am available ;-) todd caldecott Caldecott todd www.toddcaldecott.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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