Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Dear Dr. Durgesh, I would rather request you not to get perturbed by the article posted by Shri Chatterjee. Nobody can go beyond the Prakruti he is born with. I believe that ayurved also supports this theory. Allopathy also supports the theory that the chararteristics of human being is guided by genetics and hormonal chemistry. Some people would always have inflexible mindset and enjoy to remain as frog in the well lest adverse theory should pull their pious mindset down. Only a few are gifted with rare openmindedness. This is precisely the reason Rabindranath Tagore wrote his famous allegorical story named DAKGHAR. In the end, the patient died due to dearth of knowledge as all windows were closed. It was too late when Vaidya came and ordered to open all the windows. It is to be noted that both good and the bad, pure as well as adulterated, favourable and adverse would enter through the open window. It is the duty of specialist ( Doctors, Scientists ? ) to synthesize and develop a new way of life( Integrated medicine ? ) good for well-being of society. Our mind should be open enough to discard the bad and embrace the good irrespective of system of medicine in the process of synthesis & evolution. That is what Science stands for. Science is eternal quest for truth. Shri Chatterjee has put Science to the gallows for no fault of its. Should science be castigated for the extinction of species, deforestation and mining ? Is this not for burgeoning population, unscrupulous political leadership and lack of refined culture in present growth of civilisation ? How many of us are ready to live without concrete shelter, electricity and luxury tools of livelihood ? Should we honesly use PC and Internet? Can we force the clock to move backward ? We need to force a solution only in the forward direction. We need to wade through the muddy water for eternal peace leaving behind the drawback of the systems, search for light in the tunnel of darkness. Shri Ramakrishna rightly propounded the theory of Unity in diversity. He said, " The more there are opinions, the more are solutions." Why should medical science be blamed for the greedy doctor who prescribes wrong medicine by design or otherwise ? If a civil engineer designs a faulty bridge , can the theory of elasticity be questioned ? My most beloved nephew died of blood cancer at the age of ten after 3 years of wrong treatment. I had shed tears but did not form any opinion against a particular form of medicine. I have told myself that all the doctors cannot be Dhanvantari. Also there are always some people who will do business in the welfare area too. Misusing science by human being cannot be construed as criminal offence committed by science itself. It is very unfair to disregard today's scientists and blame them for lacking conciousness. We have seen Dr Ramanna and Dr Kalam from close quarters. They belong to ocean of conciousness where science and philosophy lose separate identity. De Broglie at the age of 23 years got Nobel prize for his famous Wave-Particle duality theory almost 80 years back. It is not entirely De Broglie's fault if it still remains a puzzle. In macroworld, a vehicle in a vacant road can be easily identified. In a road full of traffic, it is very difficult for a viewer to identify a single vehicle. It almost looks like a string of wave. Separate character of individual vehicle is hidden. Each of us has a dual character. When I work in my room, my character is different. When I go to canteen, start chatting with colleages, my outwardly character changes with inner character hidden in a wave. Let me draw an end with famous debate between Rabindranath and Einstein in the thirties. Rabindranath strongly felt that an object has no value till it is viewed. Einstein vehemently protested. As per him, value of an object remains intact irrespective of viewership. As per Rabindranath, beauty always lies in th eye of a beholder. After this debate, he wrote his famous poetry " I ". It said that the Emerald became green and Ruby became red through the rays of his conciousness. Emerald and Ruby do not have separate entity till these are seen by the poet in the realm of his conciousness. This is totally against the version of Einstein. Later Quantum Mechanics proved Rabindranath right.Rabindranath, the philosopher of Upanishad could visualize the truth through his enlightened sense. As Dr Robert Openheimer rightly said that the theory of quantum mechanics matches Upanishad in the higher etchelon of understanding. The theory of Quantum Mechanics attach lot of importance to virtue of subject just Ayurved to life force instead of objective symptom. It is a challenge to the people with Scientific mindset to understand and evolve a common theory which works in every sphere of life and do not differentiate between ancient and modern, good or bad in quest of truth. Dr. Durgesh, I felt very bad for intolerant chauvinistic attack on you by Shri Chatterjee. That's why I am writing to you. Otherwise his article did not merit my attention. As we were taught in Mathemetics that two parallel lines meet only in infinity. An open minded cannot meet a close minded person in real world. The difference between these two are that when there is a fault in the system one group tries to castigate the system instead of correcting the fault and other group tries to analyse the fault and correct ( thereby retaining good fruit ) Whenever, there is a controversy, I go back to my philosopher Rabindranath for tolerance and integrity as an eternal disciple in this multicultered, multireligious, multilinguistic diverse incomprehensible magical world of Upanishad & Quantum mechanics for guidance. Till date he has never failed me. Sorry to say, This is my last article on this subject. I do not want to occupy the space for non-Ayurvedic article. In the long run, it does not help the society at large. Regards, asis das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 > of society. Our mind should be open enough to discard the bad and > embrace the good irrespective of system of medicine in the process of > synthesis & evolution. That is what Science stands for. Science is > eternal quest for truth. like the US constitution guarantees the the pursuit of happiness, and the pursuit only, science is only concerned with the pursuit of truth, or in this case, facts the difference is that the wise scientists knows that the pursuit is the best that can be achieved, since science is actually not orientated to demonstrating truth but to replicate findings to generate reasonable confidence in a particular theory such that it stands the test of time - in this sense there is no truth in theory, just like zeno's arrow never actually hits its mark because of the infinitude of increments between the archer and the target - there is always the leap of faith that is required to make something "truth," even if it appears obvious... it is a common feature of science that what was held to be fact 20 years ago is no longer true, or least not exactly true any more - and, we have all seen the contradictory findings that science presents in a myriad number of subjects, such that most people don't know what to believe - unfortunately the media doesn't help we especially see this in medicine, and there have been some very interesting studies that have shown how clinical truths held to be self-evident a couple decades ago are no longer perceived this way in contrast, ayurveda is based on empirical observations that extend back thousands of years the only problem is that is has been damaged, and it needs to be restored to its former glory, when there was no disease, and no technique that could not be understood by its principles Caldecott www.toddcaldecott.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 > > it is a common feature of science that what was held to be fact 20 > years ago is no longer true, or least not exactly true any more - and, > we have all seen the contradictory findings that science presents in a > myriad number of subjects, such that most people don't know what to > believe - unfortunately the media doesn't help > Caldecott > www.toddcaldecott.com Dear Greetings. Years ago when my doctor relatives tried to reason with me to follow the "beaten path" I told them exactly the same thing. I told them, "First you come out with some basic principles that don't need a change every few years and I'll once again be back in your care." Whereas one end of science has discarded the old newtonian view of the Universe, the changed scenario shows no signs of percolating down to the mainstream. This is the double standard that is hurting us today. There are all sorts of interests that prefer the old and have no wish to usher in the new because it will hurt their ambitions. We must realise that the views expressed in the search for truth from within the materialistic domain have changed drastically. The new paradigm is almost a replica of the old that science sought to replace. And as you said, the truth can never be expressed as it is beyond words, beyond mind. It is only accessible by personal experience. Science can at best speculate, poets can at best offer glimpses, and even scriptures can only show the way. As the Upanishads say the truth is "abangmanasagocharam", beyond expression, beyond mind. Sri Ramakrishna said, "The truth will never be soiled because nobody will be able to express it. It is beyond expression." Hence the efforts of science to search for the absolute truth is futile. It can only help verify the spiritual traditions and once again restore the faith of the people in the Primal Source. The string theory, the theory of relativity, the theory of interdependancy/interconnectedness, latest experiments in the field of light are steps in this regard. As they progress the scientists feel the presence of a Great Force which is sometimes terrifying and sometimes loving and benign. Like our own Lord Shiva. Regards, Jagannath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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