Shivambu, Gerson Therapy, Heavy Metals and animal products

[Guest guest]

As long as there are proponents of these therapies

(Shivambhu, Gerson, etc), Alternative medicine

including Ayurveda will have its skeptics and it will

prove a daunting task for folks like me to speak

laurels about Ayurveda.

 

How can anyone claim that Shivambhu works? The body is

getting rid of a Mala (Ayurveda defines urine as mala)

as a means of cleansing and yet there are quarks out

there to convince that there's manna (nectar) in the

urine that can cure all diseases. As a reason to

convince the skeptics they give the example of a

former centenarian and prime minister of India Mr

Morarji Desai. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DRINK YOUR URINE TO

BE A CENTENARIAN. There are several published

research papers that describe the dietary habits of

centenarians living on Okinawa, Sardinia and Siberia.

These folks have lived for hundred years but they do

not drink their own pee.

 

Somebody in this group also discussed about goat

testicle extracts mixed in their herbal formulation.

THIS IS NOT AYURVEDA. This is quark medicine out to

make a quick buck. Mixing animal products and heavy

metals in herbal formulations is against the very norm

of Ayurvedic practise.

 

I have attched a PDF file about a recent report that

describes more than 100 formulations laced with heavy

metals. Some of these products were maufactured by

well established companies like Zandu, Baidyanath and

Dabur. Even the most sought after Himalaya had tainted

products.

 

As long as there are dubious therapies, dubious

companies marketing and manufacturing dubious products

and dubious practitioners and quarks recommending

these products to unsuspecting patients, Alternative

medicine especially Ayurveda will never be embraced by

the public at large.

 

Finally, I will also request my Indian Ayurvedic

practitioners to provide me a list of trustworthy and

honest companies that manufacture pure, organic metal

and testicle free Ayurvedic products that I can

recommend to my indian patients. Please do not send me

names of Dabur, Baidyanath, Himalaya and Zandu. I have

lost total trust and faith in these companies.

 

K.Ayasola

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Aysola,

 

Namaste. I am not a doctor but I have read the benefits of Urine

Therapy being propagated by many a good practitioner. My curiosity

led me to verify their claims as I found the therapy to be very

nauseating and unclean.

 

However my study threw up some interesting revelations.

 

1. Urine is not entirely mala. It also consists of undigested,

partially digested material. These partially digested material are in

a highly digestive and diluted form and can be reused to help people

whose system is unable to digest some vital nutrients/food.

 

The urine also has traces of various minerals which serve as very

necessary micronutrients when reused.

 

2. The urine also consists of various toxins in a very trace form.

These toxins act as a form of natural vaccination but minus the side

effects as the body gets a chance to form antibodies against these

trace toxins, which in their more gross form, are causing a lot of

harm to the body.

 

I am sure there are more reasons why urine therapy is beneficial.

 

I have never tried urine therapy myself. However patients with

terminal illnesses often try it as they have nothing to loose. Even I

have consumed coackroaches boiled in milk to get relief from my

asthma. Later I found out that the same element is used by homeopaths

as Blatta Orientalis. The urine of the hippopotamus is also used as a

medicine for asthma. The urine of the cow is said to have many

medicinal properties and is widely used especially in the North.

 

Therefore I believe that we should carefully study all non-scientific

practices, which have survived the ages, without outrightly rejecting

them. We should take cogniscance of clinical evidence which is more

important than scientific evidence.

 

Again, I personally do not feel that the medicines of such reputed

pharmaceutical companies as Dabur, Zandu, Baidyanath, Himalaya are

unsafe. I know the FDA has found traces of various minerals in some

of their products, but there is no evidence to prove that they have

done any damage to any patient. This is in contradiction to

allopathic drugs which have been declared safe but withdrawn from the

market, by the same FDA, after they have killed thousands of

patients. Please do not get taken in by those claims. As they came

just before the CODEX was drafted one can easily see why those claims

were made in the first place.

 

I have an excellent article in Hindi that explains the ayurvedic

stand on the presence of minerals in the ayurvedic products. I will

try to translate it and share it with the group but that will take

time.

 

Regards,

Jagannath.

[Guest guest]

there is a long history of using goat testicle in vajikarana - you need

to read the nighantus and you will find it

as for it being "quark" medicine you must mean quack medicine, and this

is a term that originally derived from physicians using "quick" silver,

i.e. mercury to poison and kill their patients - hence, it actually

refers to using a substance without knowing why you are using it - the

vaidyas of old knew very well how a goat testicle might help male

infertility in special cases, and weren't quacks

 

 

> Somebody in this group also discussed about goat

> testicle extracts mixed in their herbal formulation.

> THIS IS NOT AYURVEDA. This is quark medicine out to

> make a quick buck. Mixing animal products and heavy

> metals in herbal formulations is against the very norm

> of Ayurvedic practise.

Caldecott

todd

www.toddcaldecott.com

 

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