Guest guest Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Dear Members, WE have seen this controversy in posts Nos. 2507, 2517, 2527, 2529, 2541, 2935, 2939, 2944, 2946, 2948, 2949, 2950. Yes, ayurvedic medicines use metals. Other than metals, some of the most deadly poisons are also used in ayurvedic drus, after killing their toxicity, take Kuchala for example. Castor oil itself has some mild poison, which cures some Vata diseases. Ayurveda was almost being forgotten by health providers, till interest was revived by toxins in alloptahic drugs. Modern science community tried to suppress the truth whenever alternate inexpensive herbal or other methods were proposed, practiced and success demonstrated. Western world is well known for such occurances. To cite an example let us discuss Essiac, the formulation which cured several cancers in Canada. Essiac (es-ee-ack) is an herbal tea remedy attributed to Rene Caisse (reen-case) of Canada Canadian Nurse Rene M. Caisse claimed the source of her recipe was an old Indian medicine man. Rene treated cancer patients with her Essiac remedy for 50 years, Rene M. Caisse Cancer Clinic operated from 1935 until 1941. Rene Caisse named her herbal remedy "Essiac" after backward spelling of her last name. Information and education about essiac including the history, herbs, recipes, available books, controversial issues and product prices for comparison shopping are available on http://essiac-info.org/ Though she tried for approval of this drug for nearly 12 years, vested interests of MNCs prevented the approval. According to the FDA, there are no scientific clinical studies that prove Rene Caisse's formula cures, alleviates or prevents any disease or condition. Essiac stories and testimonies are not medical proof!! To prove that a certain drug can cure some disease, hospitals, universities and MDs must conduct double blind clinical trials in controlled groups and statistical evidence must be obtained. This ensures that the bandwagon of academicians, practitioners of modern medicine and MNCs can not be disturbed by anybody, since he has to approach the bandwagon and obtain a costly approval. But, friends, we have seen that such trials often disprove what an earlier trial had concluded. and why people should trust such results when often trials are funded by the benificiaries only. The drug multinationals (MNCs) wish desired outcomes of the trials should be published by MDs, Profs and University academicians. The message on this list just before this message tells how undesitable outcome is dealt with. Most of the "successful drug" scientific literature is ghost written by academicians/professionals on the pay-roll of MNCs. This consclusion is drawn by a trustworthy professional trind to find the war against suicidal and leading to divorce effects of anti- depresants. Please check up: http://health.drugawareness/message/323 If ayurvedic meds contain metals, so far not a single case has been proved where someone died or become unstable in mind by consuming ayurvedic drugs. If a wrong medicine or excess dosage is taken, patient receives adequate warning by consequential weakness, burning sensation in stomach, other organs, especially urination and passing motions. Most of the patients taking allopathic medicines come with such complaints to ayurvedists. On the other hand several suicides/homicides are caused by allopathic drugs calss SSRI. Many deaths can not be proven, but it is now believed that long term use of anti-hypertensives, anti-diabetic drugs etc leads to renal failure. This spreading has occured by whispers from one patient to other. Kidney just reaches exhaustion while flushing out heavy toxins in those drugs. FDA also now agrees and warns women on its site against Cancer risks due to HRT. You can obtain better explaination of why a large proportion of U.S. women suffering from breast cancer or ultimately leading to hysterectomy on: http://www.johnleemd.net/books/bcancer_excerpts_chp3.html Since ayurveda is picking up fast in west, the potential threat is being countered by MNCs using articles by MDs, WebMDs etc. If population wishes to get mislead this way, it is better for oriental world, since their precious herbal resources will be preserved. Already many rare herbs have come to "disappearing" state in Himachal Pradesh, U.P., Uttaranchal states of India. Poaching by greedy commercial minded men is the cause. Ayurveda did not evolve through clinical trials, pharmacies, FDA etc. Ayurveda is a philosophy of life, science of longevity, restraint on food, behaviour, thoughts, yoga techniques, etc. It is not medical science in the connotation of the word medicine. Since basic aim was the welfare of humanity, the properties of the herbs, naturally occuring minerals etc was documented through discussions, oral communication etc. No journals, scientific literature, conferences having cocktail dinners etc. Ayurveda can not be understood by reading about it on Net, getting a 4-6 year degree, or spending a year or two in India, after a degree in west. Years of practice, meditation, humbleness to super power and ultimately, "I treat but he cures" attitude is needed to understand ayurveda in depth. Members of this list are requested not to go by few messages here, but research for yourself. What can not appeal to self logic, or can not be experienced by self, is not true knowledge. True knowledge may not be expressible in words. Ayurvedic texts mention that not every disease needs to have a name. If a Vaidya can assess the unbalance of three doshas, he should try to restore balance. And most important, if he feels disease as incurable, he should not treat it. While modern science has no option to leave someone dyeing, as relatives/friends request to use life support system. Two sciences are poles apart. Author is happy to note that some western MDs who are true humanitarian professionals, despite obtaining modern science degrees, are practicing naturopathy or taking a lead role in exposing the drug mafia consisting of MNCs, professionals etc. Dr Bhate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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