Guest guest Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 I find it very interesting that in our society, it does not matter what the discussion is, whether it is endocrine balance or food turkeys, we start and end our discussion with effects on sexual organs. There is more to endocrine system than just an effect on the sexual organs. It is the very essence of life, of health and of maintaining auto regulation of all of our biologic functions , including balance of sugar metabolism and energy metabolism, and water metabolism, and liver function, of proper digestion and of elimination, of reaction to fright and flight, in survival and reaction to one's surrounding environment. Let us address all these issues, and not just bring every discussion to only its effect on sexual organs, important as it is, that should not be the only focus of any " intellectual" discussion. Why is the sexual activity of a food turkey important ? If you talk about pure Ayurveda, I am not sure turkey is a prescribed food to begin with. We do not even talk about proper exercise, yogic or otherwise, or the effect of meditation in maintaining mental health, or one's attitude to " stress " in life, or to life in general. All these are more important than just effect on the sexual organs. I also find it interesting how we latch on to certain key words--like Ojas --in the last few mailings. And how Ojas decreases with sex, etc...... Well, even a sexual act is a physiologic act and so is childbirth. Healthy and not too much sexual activity perhaps increases your Ojas, because the lack of it is equally devastating to one's mental sanity. One has to balance all physiologic functions. Even pregnancy and delivery----there is a prescribed diet for the pregnant, full of dry fruits and nuts, with "laddoos" made from certain nuts, and herbs to increase one's energy level prior to delivery. Post delivery, oil massages with medicated oils and the same herbs and nuts also help in increasing one's energy level. And instead of calling the child a parasite, the very site of the baby is important to the mother's mental health, which is equally important in maintaining "Ojas" !! She may be physically tired on a few days, but that is not the same as Ojas. We are confusing the 2 definitions, and pretending to have an intellectual discussion. Durgesh Mankikar,MD > > Deana endocrine system How do I support the endocrine system and allow it time to repair? hugs Deana After all my research - this is what i am learning for myself that is going on..... (IE .. Hypothyroid, Endimitriosis, Overactive adrenal gland - constant fluctuation of inside body temperature.) *The Endocrine Interplay* What needs to be understood is that, for example, if a woman's thyroid or adrenal glands are depleted or functioning inadequately--a fairly common occurrence in our stressful culture--she will likely experience problems with her sexual reproductive organs. The connection between these organs and the thyroid, the adrenals and other endocrine glands is that they are all governed by endocrine hormones. This is an important interrelationship, which is why what disrupts one gland can disrupt another, causing a kind of domino effect or vicious cycle. The immune system and the thymus are involved, too, because immune response is inhibited by abnormal hormone levels. > > Caldecott Re: Thanksgiving menu instead of turkey maybe go for a big organic chicken - ALL food turkeys are hybrid mutants incapable of sexual reproduction read more at http://www.upc-online.org/fall94/breeding.html Caldecott todd www.toddcaldecott.com [irrelevant messages from the quoted digest removed by moderator, relevant ones retained] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 > instead of calling the child a parasite, the very site of the baby is > important to the mother's mental health, which is equally important in > maintaining "Ojas" the use of the word "parasite" was simply a humorous attempt to illustrate the issue of energy loss in pregnancy - those of us with children may find some sympathy with this sentiment - if you haven't figured it out yet, almost all i say on this list is done so with my tongue firmly wedged in my cheek - i really don't take any of this too seriously, and nobody should, especially those of you looking for free advice > !! She may be physically tired on a few days, but that is not the same > as Ojas. We are confusing the 2 > definitions, and pretending to have an intellectual discussion. please enlighten us as to your definition of ojas... Caldecott todd www.toddcaldecott.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 > Why is the sexual activity of a food turkey important ? If you talk about pure Ayurveda, I am not sure turkey is a prescribed food to begin with. > We do not even talk about proper exercise, yogic or otherwise, or the effect of meditation in maintaining mental health, or one's attitude to " stress " in life, or to life in general. Dr Manikkar, It seems you are the one who is jumpy when it comes to matters of sex :-). In fact the thought never even crossed my mind when I read till you pointed it out. I do not eat turkeys but if I had to on some occasion, I would most certainly keep away from impotent turkeys(esp. when most of the turkey population is so). I mean is not that a red flag right there, would you by analogy eat rotten fruit or cook rotting vegetables? > > All these are more important than just effect on the sexual organs. > I also find it interesting how we latch on to certain key words-- >like Ojas --in the last few mailings. And how Ojas decreases with >sex, etc...... Well, even a sexual act is a physiologic act and so is >childbirth. Healthy and not too much sexual activity perhaps. I humbly submit that you are mistaken on this. More important that moderation is whether you have control over the sex impulse. If there is no self-control even if one is moderate, I submit that this is no different from being a drug addict. Please note I use the term "self- control" which is different from repression(which is decidely unhealthy). And of course uncontrolled but moderate is preferable to pure repression. On this topic everyone has his/her own opinion, so please take the forementioned as one more; who knows many years from now I may come back and tell you "you were right Dr. Manikkar, and I was wrong". BTW the parasite reference was purely facetious. I thing Todd has a whole brood of "parasites",whom he is very happy to have :-). -yogaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 - "childofdevi" <childofdevi <ayurveda> Sunday, November 28, 2004 3:13 AM <ayurveda> Re: Endocrine system, ojas > Dr Manikkar, It seems you are the one who is jumpy when it comes to > matters of sex :-). In fact the thought never even crossed my mind > when I read till you pointed it out. I do not eat turkeys but if I > had to on some occasion, I would most certainly keep away from > impotent turkeys I would agree with this > > BTW the parasite reference was purely facetious. I thing Todd has a > whole brood of "parasites",whom he is very happy to have :-). > I think Todd referred to a 'parasite' technically and not emotionally or spiritually. The selection of the word may be inappropriate. Vinod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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