Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Honorable Vaidyas; Perhaps I speak for many of this forum's less or non-trained and western participants and listeners? And for those who would like to begin some programme of transition before the very slow international mails might serve them ordering from your clinics and personal services. It is so wonderful to recieve your sharing so much information and the detailed protocols, herbal formulas and all! Sometimes it is also a little disheartening to not know or have access to the prepared formulas, and I am wondering if, when the time is available to you, if you can mention some alternatives when we only have access to the individual herbs? My feeling is your communication time will be of even greater value. As a student and postpartum ayurvedic care professional and trainer, I collect and personally must have an ayurvedic "pharmacy" of about 2/3 of the single and basic preparation herbs available in the US. While recognizing that pharmaceutical grade decocted/dehydrated into tablets or other combined and preparations are much more potent, my interest in learning more from your sharings catches on (of course my lack of training as well as) the less accessable frequently cited compounds. Hopefully this is not an unreasonable request sometimes? With much gratitude for all the tremendous wisdom shared here, and hopes to do it justice - and wisdom referring those in need of such skill whenever possible. Namaste! Martha Oakes Diplomate Ayurvedic Health Science specializing in Ayurvedic Postpartum Care 13 years, Training & Aromatherapy Gainesville, Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Honorable Vaydyas, Martha, in this regard, I am a little like Martha, in the sense that I am a Diplomate Abyangam Practitioner in Italy, and I am now in my 3rd year studying Nidan and Chikitsa. The same situation Martha is describing happens here in my country as well. Also, there is a well-developed western phitotherapy and very often we have to use herbs from our own western tradition and/or combine them with the Ayurvedic ones. This is good, of course, and I believe I read somewhere that even Indian Doctors when they are abroad and don't have their native resources available, try and use what they have locally. Maybe if would be useful to us, and to the spreading of Ayurveda in the world, if some of you could kindly share resources and/or tell us where to find comparisons between Ayurvedic herbs and Western herbs or so. Thank you very, very much! Marco Massignan Medical Translator - Ayurveda Practitioner, Italy epona www.e-passport.it/marco_massignan www.proz.com/pro/10478 - doulaminerva ayurveda Friday, October 22, 2004 12:32 AM <ayurveda> Professional herbal formulations and access Perhaps I speak for many of this forum's less or non-trained and western participants and listeners? And for those who would like to begin some programme of transition before the very slow international [ Rest of the message truncated by moderator, full text available as archives, or those receiving daily digest may receive in today's digest itself] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hello Marco In Bologna there is doctor Guido Sartori atah that produces ayurvedic formulations with western herbs. Emy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Dear Martha and Marco, It indeed is a sad state of affairs that though the knowlegde and information about ayurveda had spread far and wide, there still is a lot of difficulty in obtaining authentic ayurvedic medicines outside the shores of India. The very few attempts made in this regard have met with so many obstacles that the very near future doesn't seem very bright atleast in this aspects. It is heartening to know that there is an increasing number of persons who are trying to obtain authentic ayurvedic medicnes not just for personal use but also for the purpose of prescribing it to others. You have asked "if you can mention some alternatives when we only have access to the individual herbs". Well frankly if you have access to individual herbs you need not look out for alternatives of formulations. Formulations are based on certain principles. Once you understand those (yes I now this is another aspect of ayurveda that is largely glossed over) you can make your own formulation. For example on the query about coffee Todd very nicely put forth what is known as the Dravya-Guna of the coffee plant. I am pretty much sure that the Dravya-Guna of coffee does not appear in any of the old ayurvedic texts. There are many substances in use today which we have access to because the world has shrunk. It would be unreasonable to expect to find detailed information on every substance in ayurvedic texts. And yet ayurvedic texts mention that there is no substance in the universe that can't be used as medicine. The formulations mentioned in the texts are just examples. Again the number of individual herbs a person would have access to differs from region to region. I really cannot hope to understand the Dravya-Guna of a substance I have never seen before. So though we might be able to help you with some commonly available herbs if you train yourself to think in the lines of Dravya-Guna (I am assuming you have gone through what this is) then for a particular herb which is easily accesible to you but not to me, you would be in a better position to explain its properties and use to us. Having said that we would be more than glad to discuss individual herbs and their alternatives on a case to case basis. That is ultimately the purpose of this group - to share information :-> With warm regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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