exhaustion

[Guest guest]

Dear esteemed Ayur-group,

I wondered if anyone could help me with these symptoms.

I am a 29 year old female with a 2 year old son, I am constantly

exhausted, often feel queezy or nauseated, have chronic thick mucus

stuck in my throat, along with a chronic soar throat. I often have K

type depression during premenstrual time. Although I dont get sick

often, I feel pretty awful most of the time. Like I'm constantly

fighting something.

I take a fomula that includes licorice, mahasudarshan, tumeric,

tulsi, neem, ginger, pippali + other digestives to fight off

infection and help lymph drainage, and try to dissolve some ama.

I have a V/P mind,(prone to anxiety and irritablity) and a K/P body

type, and a little vicrity in all it seems.

A chinese medicine doctor told me I had a "bad" stomach, and bad

kidneys. I do drink caffeinated beverages, to fight off the

exhaustion.

I crave mostly K type foods, my diet is primarily vegetarian

(including eggs and dairy).

My quality of life suffers much from these complaints, and I would

greatly apreciate any suggestions anyone has to offer.

Thanks to all, namaste, Radhika

[Guest guest]

>

> I wondered if anyone could help me with these symptoms.

> I am a 29 year old female with a 2 year old son, I am constantly

> exhausted, often feel queezy or nauseated, have chronic thick mucus

> stuck in my throat, along with a chronic soar throat. I often have K

> type depression during premenstrual time. Although I dont get sick

> often, I feel pretty awful most of the time. Like I'm constantly

> fighting something.

>

>

 

dear Radhika

 

it sounds to me from your description that like you are likely

suffering from ama, or more specifically in western terms, a chronic

candida/fungal problem

 

please avoid eating ANY dairy (butter/ghee OK), sugar (incl.

dried/tropical fruit), flour products and fermented foods for at least

one month, preferably three

 

consider taking a full spectrum digestive enzyme with meals along with

digestive herbs such as cardamom, hing, pippali, ginger, garlic etc.

 

try drinking pau d'arco tea, 3 cups daily - it will help with your

symptoms and boost immune function

 

another helpful herb would be daruharidra or barberry, as a tincture,

40 drops before meals thrice daily - this has a specific antifungal

activity, corrects the liver and promotes detoxification

 

you might also want to try a chinese herb called Reishi (Ganoderma

lucidum), 2 caps thrice daily of a 15:1 extract - it can boost immune

function, deal with lingering pathogens and help with the anxiety

 

after 2 weeks start taking an acidophilus/bifidobacterium supplement,

and rotate brands every bottle to avoid building resistance

 

other helpful supplements include a vit B complex (100 mg/d), vit C

(3-5 g/d), and omega 3 fats (= to 1000 mg EPA/DHA daily)

 

good luck... Todd Caldecott

[Guest guest]

As per Ayurvedic principals, you may be suffering from Pachan Vikar which falls

under the catagory of weak digestion,ultimatly causing RASA Dhatu Kshaya.

 

Stop immediatly all refrigerated Drinks and Ice Creams.

 

Daily take about 200 ml leuke warm water after Lunch and Dinner

 

Stop immediatly Red meat and take light break -fast and light dinner.

 

Add ginger in your diet as per your chice.The best way is to cut ginger in small

pieces and put these pieces in lemmon juice and add some salt in juice as per

your taste.Use 2-4 pieces daily twice 30 minutes before your lunch and dinner or

with your food during having lunch and dinner.

 

Daily take 10 Resins morning and evening.Chew the resins very well and swallow

it.

 

Dr. ANIL

 

BAMS,M.D.(Ayurveda),Ph.D.(Sch)

 

 

 

> I wondered if anyone could help me with these symptoms.

> I am a 29 year old female with a 2 year old son, I am constantly

> exhausted, often feel queezy or nauseated, have chronic thick mucus

> stuck in my throat, along with a chronic soar throat. I often have K

> type depression during premenstrual time. Although I dont get sick

> often, I feel pretty awful most of the time. Like I'm constantly

> fighting something.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear

Thank you so much for your suggestions. I will try what you said.

Just one last try, no goat dairy either? Goat milk or cheese? Also should I

incorporate meat into my diet? Cheese is (was)my main source of protein, and

legumes.

Thanks again,

Radhika

[Guest guest]

Dear

I forgot to ask, after 1 to 3 months on this diet, would I be able to

incorporate any of those things( dairy, sugar, flour) into my diet again? Or is

it best I just stay away from them? Is honey and maple syrup ok?

Thank you!

Radhika

[Guest guest]

Exhaustion is the common symptom when one of the twenty different

ailments can be present. Unless you personally meet some ayurvedic

expert, it will be difficult to diagnose what exactly is out of

order. You could have also mentioned whether you are loosing weight

and whether delivery was normal. The surgical delivery, due to spinal

anasthesia often disturbs the CNS, hormonal system, a possibility

indicated by your depression attendant with cycles. The author feels

that you may be having low B. P. also.

 

A general conclusion is of course that metabolism or "Sapt Dhatu

Kriya" is disturbed. Already you have contacted a doctor, but you are

not satisfied. Caffeinated beverages is not a right way to fight off

the exhaustion.

 

The herbs you are taking include herbs which can attack all three

doshas.

 

A useful article related to your state and possible herbal

recommendation is available at:

 

http://ayurveda-foryou.com/topic.html

 

Despite this, meet some ayurvedic expert in vicinity personally.

Exhaustion is often indicator of some serious disorder.

 

Dr Bhate

 

ayurveda, "cassia108" <cassia108>

wrote:

 

> I am a 29 year old female with a 2 year old son, I am constantly

> exhausted, often feel queezy or nauseated, have chronic thick mucus

> stuck in my throat, along with a chronic soar throat. I often have

...

...

> Thanks to all, namaste, Radhika

[Guest guest]

Thank you,

I have been diagnosed with low blood pressure, but don't know how to fix it, I

am not losing weight, about ten years ago I was diagnosed with chronic yeast (I

am following Todd Caldecott's dietary suggestions), along with the ones posted

at Ayurveda for you) delivery was normal, but I did get an epidural.(2 years

ago, would there still be an effect?)

I will continue the more gentle approach of diminishing ama to deal with the

cause, and not take the harsh herbs as often.

Thank you for responding,

ps, the Chinese herbs were helping, but were too expensive for me to continue,

and as such, I was left at square one.

Namaste to all, Radhika

 

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[Guest guest]

Todd <phyto

Tue Oct 5, 2004 12:15:57 AM America/Edmonton

ayurveda

Re: <ayurveda> exhaustion

 

>

> Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:32:39 -0400 (EDT)

> Cassia Katz <cassia108

> Re: exhaustion

>

>

> Dear

> Thank you so much for your suggestions. I will try what you said.

> Just one last try, no goat dairy either? Goat milk or cheese? Also

> should I incorporate meat into my diet? Cheese is (was)my main source

> of protein, and legumes.

> Thanks again,

> Radhika

 

dear radhika

 

over all, decreasing the carb quotient is an effective strategy in

treating candida b/c the fungus survives on sugars

whole grains/legumes are generally OK

 

i find that increasing good quality, hormone and antibiotic free

eggs/fish/chicken/meat in the diet is very helpful to change the pH of

the bowel making it less favorable for the yeast - of course make sure

you still eat lots of vegies, preferably steamed, in soups, or baked

(where appropriate), with the herbs already mentioned

 

limit fruits as well - best to have zero fruit for the first 2 weeks,

and then maybe an apple a day

 

regarding goat dairy, it really doesn't seem to make a difference -

just avoid all dairy except a little butter and ghee

your issue may be compounded by an actual dairy allergy, constitutional

or acquired

 

after avoiding these foods, if my supposition is correct, you should

begin to feel better in a couple weeks, but continue for at least 3

months

 

there's certainly no harm in anything i have suggested

 

here is a question sheet you may find helpful:

http://www.wrc.net/wrcnet_content/questionsheets/candidalong.htm

 

from an ayurvedic perspective candida is a kapha disorder, with

paittika or vattika variants

thus heavy, sticky and greasy foods with a sweet taste should be

avoided - to my mind that sounds like cheese, doesn't it?

 

best... Todd

[Guest guest]

On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, at 12:12 AM,

ayurveda wrote:

 

> Message: 1

> Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:40:38 -0400 (EDT)

> Cassia Katz <cassia108

> Re:exhaustion

>

>

> Dear

> I forgot to ask, after 1 to 3 months on this diet, would I be able to

> incorporate any of those things( dairy, sugar, flour) into my diet

> again? Or is it best I just stay away from them? Is honey and maple

> syrup ok?

> Thank you!

> Radhika

 

i think you should cross that bridge when you come to it. after a

couple weeks any cravings you have will probably diminish and it won't

seem as pressing of an issue; after 3 months eating these foods every

once and awhile, e.g. once every 1-2 weeks is unlikely to create

problems, but if you start to crave them or find yourself slipping into

a pattern then better to avoid

 

as far as honey/maple syrup goes, nope: this includes brown rice syrup,

dried fruit, any kind of intensely sweet food or sweetener

 

try stevia in the short term for sugar cravings

but better to avoid any sweet food and retrain your palette

 

"she who controls her tongue controls her life"

 

:-) Todd

 

Caldecott

todd

www.toddcaldecott.com

[Guest guest]

Exhaustion

 

Message from Radhika brought the memories of several similar patients

from Mumbai. There are two types of exhaustions. First is body

exhaustion while second is mental exhaustion. Mental exhaustion is

more difficult to treat. It changes the entire life. Body exhaustion

reduces with some rest. Some good and tasty food also reduces

exhaustion. However, mental exhaustion is difficult to reduce.

 

In reality, both types of exhaustion are coupled to each other and it

is difficult to separate them. Both influence each other. Many a

time, ayurvedic vaidya gets confused as some medicines do not work as

per his expectations. The influence of mind over body needs to be

recognised first. Thus in one case, a patient was having watery loose

motions. One of his family member had expired and watery loose

motions was the shock reaction of the `mind over body' control.

Without any medicine, they stopped in a few days as he regained

stability of mind.

 

When blood glucose increases as a result of Diabetes mellitus, one

feels exhaustion. Such patients often use both ayurvedic and

allopathic medicines to control blood sugar. In the author's

experience, when patient is taking purely ayurvedic medicines, his

blood sugar never goes to `too low range'. However, allopathic

medicines which are chemistry molecules, due to absence of herbal

intelligence in them, often take bloos sugar to 'too low'. They

become super effective when blood sugar is close to `normal' range.

In such situations, when sugar reaches low range, hypoglycemia,

causes exhaustion. Excess pancreatiuc activity lowers blood glucose

as a result of excess insulin. Under these circumstances, food gives

better feeling. Especially, sugar and sweets cause energetic feeling.

However, this is a wrong policy. One should not take caffeinated

drinks or intoxicating substances, simply because they

give `energetic' feeling. One should avoid sweets, rice, potato,

sweet potato, etc which are carbohydrates easy to digest and have

higher glyceimic index. Protein rich diet is more advisable.

Cashewnuts, Akhrot, Horse Gram, Ground nuts do not encourage the low

sugar state to become more accute.

 

In such cases, perfect diagnosis can be done

by `Darshan', `Sparshan', `Pulse' and `Prashnottari' as per standard

ayurvedic practice. To confirm the diagnosis, fasting glucose and the

tests every half an hour after consuming 50 grams of glucose sugar or

100 gms of carbohydrates will reveal the presence of hypoglucemia

or diabetes mellitus.

 

There has been substantial research on Hypoglycemia. Despite this,

modern science has no cure for this. In the language of ayurveda, the

digestion of food causes `Rasa', the first dhatu amongst seven

defined by ayurveda. The increase or decerease of `Rasa' , both

states cause exhaustion. For instance, eating Shreekhand, Dudhpak,

Basundi: [all made by concentrating milk/curd and adding white sugar]

causes dizziness, drowsiness and often deep sleep. And doing this

frequently, [a common practice in `Gujurathi' population in India

which invented above dishes] gives rise to Meda roga or obessity.

Another modern health-hazzard is Pavbhaji, very popular dish in

Mumbai and slowly spreading to most of India. Some patients informed

that Pavbhaji is now available in Motels run by Gujarathis in U.S.A.

and Canada. It is now being served in some domestic flights also.

This pavbhaji, being prepared in ghee and number of spices, causes a

conflict in `Satva' and `tamas' guna of human body. Eating such

dishes only few times may not cause much damage. However, nowadays,

children demand such dishes only, and loving mom provides them with

the result that the juvenile obessity, a western disorder, spreading

in India, Mumbai being its focal point.

 

The blood pressure is a natural symptom, not a disease according to

ayurvedic philosophy. It can be high or low. When it goes much above

or below, causes exhaustion. It is possible that there may not be any

other symptom, but mostly headache, anxiety, exhaustion,

irritability, short-temper are common symptoms under which blood

pressure is the indicated. Lack of sufficient blood supply in

caratoid arteries which carry blood to brain needs to be

investigated. There is a strong correlation between the blood sugar

and the blood pressure.

 

In case of men, exhaustion is the disease caused mainly by lifestyle.

Stuffing the stomach fully twice a day, carrying the food to work

place and eating it after few hours when it is already cold or

devalued in terms of nutrition, and workoholic habits can be few more

reasons for chronic fatigue. People commuting from subrubs to main

city are often subject to this type of exhaustion. In the mad and

long run to materialism, slowly health gets spoiled. The metabolism,

or Sapta-Dhatu Kriya (which goes on for 41 days on food consumed

today) gets disturbed. New blood cells do not form adequately and

reduced iron in blood caues `Panduroga' or `anemia' in modern science

terms. Neither liver works properly, there is a lack of digestive

enzymes, which reduces hunger also. Due to this Agnimandya, person

wishes to eat more and more `spicy' ` hot' pitta aggravating foods,

which vitiate both blood and fleshy muscles. The elasticity of

muscles decreases, causing slow appearance of wrinkles. Flabby

appearance of skin exposed ouside tight clothes can be seen,

especially in working women. Pitta aggravating foods also include

Chillies, Nicotine, Spices, Fried foods. Often, hypoglyceimic get a

kick to smoke or consume intoxiacting substance, since the brain

demands it out of higher energy need to digest the food. What really

happens is that heart rate goes up, more blood is pumped to brain and

then only brain is able to give commands to carry out digestion. Due

to this increased demand, till two hours after food, no yoga, no

exercise, no heavy physical work.

 

The commuting is the curse on city poulation. Travelling far in

crowded suburban trains makes life irregular. Irregularity in food

habits is also result of this routine. Vitamin shots give only a

temporary relief. It is not a permanent solution. Improving the

metabolism is the permanent solution. Eating whtever available

outside is also incorrect. Indian youth in age group 20-30, living in

Metros, is slowly becoming victim to the 9 AM to 9 PM work culture

brought in by cash rich jobs offered by 'Outsourcing' opportunities.

Since a vehicle can be bought after first salary itself, walking

habit is lost slowly.

 

Improper diet shows its influence on health sooner or later.

Generally, in youth and middle age, the dhatu-kriya works properly.

However, with progress of age, food habits show up by advanced

ageing. Joint pains, lack of enthusiasm/vigour, premature ageing

symptoms are the result. Despite whatever the cause of exhaustion, the author,

even without diagnosing, can recommend Moong Dhal Khitchri as one of the

most recommended food by ancient acharyas. IT contains right amount

of everything. Proteins, carbo-hydrates, very little fat, vitamins, minerals

and also fiber to ease the elimination process. IN extremely weak patients,

we give this khitchri, or sometimes, simply liquid part of this khitchri.

 

In case of women in middle age (30-35), who have never known what

natural sea salt is, there Sapt Dhatu Kriyas have disturbed by either

epidurals during delivery or 'Mineral deficiency' caused by white

sugar and iodized salt. Author feels that both obessity and chronic

fatigue is the result of mineral deficient diet and disturbed

metabolism. The percentage of 'pre-diabetic' population is increasing

every day, if Mumbai is taken to represent typical world cities.

 

Though disturbed metabolism is discussed as one of the causes here,

there are many other causes, which should be ruled out before

treating exhaustion appropriately.

 

Dr Bhate

 

 

ayurveda, Cassia Katz <cassia108>

wrote:

>

> Thank you,

> I have been diagnosed with low blood pressure, but don't know how

to fix it, I am not losing weight, about ten years ago I was

diagnosed with chronic yeast (I am following Todd Caldecott's dietary

suggestions), along with the ones posted at Ayurveda for you)

delivery was normal, but I did get an epidural.(2 years ago, would

there still be an effect?)

> I will continue the more gentle approach of diminishing ama to deal

with the cause, and not take the harsh herbs as often.

> Thank you for responding,

> ps, the Chinese herbs were helping, but were too expensive for me

to continue, and as such, I was left at square one.

> Namaste to all, Radhika

[Guest guest]

Dear

Thank you again, this has been more than helpful, in 3 days, I already feel

better, and to my surprize, have no cravings.

I am extremely grateful to you, and this group.

namaste, Radhika

 

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