Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Hi Deana; You are fortunate to have found Shatavari; not only is it cooling (by itself not so good postpartum) but it is usually the best postpartum rejuvenative tonic for especially, female reproductive system and hormones and best galactagogue (milk production). I buy mine in bulk (powdered) from www.Banyanbotanicals.com, where you can get organic quality; it is very nice quality and price very reasonable. I have my clients take it in a blend with a few other herbs usually, depending upon their individual nature and needs, and I always add a little cardamom or some other digestive maybe ginger, maybe clove, maybe cumin, fennel, like that, as Shatavari is a nutrient dense root, requireing some extra digestive fire. And postpartum our digestive fire is very weak. How many weeks post are you now? Ayurveda has a very special body of knowledge for postpartum mothers and babies. I have been very fortunate to recieve enough of it to have been of service to many mothers over the last 13 years, and seen what a missing piece this is in western culture! I hope many more women will learn this wisdom. Martha Oakes Sacred Window Ayurveda for Mothers and Children Postpartum AyurDoula Care, Handbook, Training, & Aromatherapy PO Box 2276, Alachua, FL 32616 - 2276 (352) 378-3660 ; ayurveda – open membership and files www.sacredwindow.com under reconstruction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Martha , Thank you , your reply post meant very much to my heart. I unfortunatley did not hear of Ayurvedic medicances or learn of shatavari until I was 7 weeks postpartum.. (it sure would have helped my body handle our colicy baby much better ) I still cry when I think of how hard that was, and yes that was our 4th colicy baby But it had been 7 yrs so I had forgot how hard it was, and the breastfeeding was every hour and half for 3 months straight for 45 mins at a time 24/7 . I almost ended up being hospitalized from being so exhausted I fell down the stairs with our baby I learned of the shatavari through a book I decided to pick up from the library since my husband wasn't much help at the time and I was trying to take care of myself and the baby and our other kids at the same time. He has since changed his tune when I fell down the stairs and is a much better helper. The lady in the book listed many herbs but shatavari stuck out in my mind because my body defenately needed some hormonal balance before the doctors decide I was PPD. Which I wasn't, but only me and my husband seemed to know that. I have used the shatavari everyday since about 8 weeks postpartum and my son is 7months old today. I just ran out today too. but the bottles here run $11 for 75 count pill. If I were to order the dried herb. how much of it would I take and would I put it into tea or just eat it as part of a salad?? The lady next door to me just had a baby 3 weeks ago and I gave her half my bottle of shatavari to help her. She is out of it and wants to know where to get more too )) Herbs and there healing powers is very very new to me. I also learned of Motherwort from this book. It is WONDERFUL but the only problem is that it tastes so extremely bad in tincture form. I have to plug my nose to take the tincture. Yuck.!! Any ideas on both of these would be greatly appreciated. Hugs Deana Frugal Family ( Can you spend $75 a week for a family of 5 - I can help if you need guidance, just send me an email) Mom of 4 (3 boys, 1 Girl - Bless her Heart and make her strong!) Wife, Friend, Mentor, Homeschooler, and all the other wonderful jobs that women today posess at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Dear You were still very fortunate to find this herb when you did. It does help us handle things better, tho it does not help directly for baby to reverse the colic. You may be interested in the articles at the open group, perinatalayurveda on the topic (see files, Happy Baby Tummies, like that). Oh my, 4 colicy babies. I do my best not to think too much about what it must be like, as just a few minutes of unconsolable crying (which so commonly goes on for hours every day for months) is so heartbreaking. You will not be happy to know that even breastfeeding so often ... every hour and half contributes to the colic. It is because babies, like adults, who eat while partially digested food is in their stomach, don't feel so good afterwords. It confuses the body with teh two stages of feeding, and creates many incomplete products of digestion, leading to more complications short and long term, including of course mega gas. No wonder, breastfeeding so constantly for so many days/months, you were so exhausted. It is unfortunate that this knowledge is not shared by the La Leche League or alternative western health practitioners; on the contrary recommending you console your baby with more food. It actually can create eating disorders, encouraging emotional satisfaction that way. Of course, you do everything you can to make baby happy, and in the early days and months they have sucking need beyond nourishment, which has to do with coordinating the brain hemispheres and giving bliss, balance energetically. The book you found at the library must have been well most likely from a dear midwife named Robin Lim? She does have a nice chapter or two on ayurveda, but completely misses the point on postpartum maternal dietary factors. I am upset with her, dear personally as she is to me, because I gave her a copy of my manuscript to read. The three keys for avoiding problems (depression, colic, constipation, sleep problems, digestion, etc) are 1) Mothering the mother - rest, and TLC. 2) Dailyl massage for Mother as well as baby - ayurvedic style very oily and warm, and in this case extra soothing, graceful and gentle. 3) Dietary. Again I refer to the documents/files as above. For turning around depression in my experience, add two more keys 4) personalized herbals 5) therapeutic grade essential oils. Colic, the dietary shifts are so key, and if formula, many factors. Essential oils and herbs are also very helpful, as is Infant massage well documented to help, heat treatments, and yes it takes some time. About 3 weeks for the accumulations to become colic, often weeks to correct though comforts can come before. No one thing will fix, and no instant fixes for chronic violation the laws of our own nature. It is a great gift this knowledge is beginning to be available to our culture, so long so pioneer/do it yourself based. Please do not eat salads if you or baby is gassy, it is a BIG problem in early postpartum. The shatavari is best delivered into deeper tissues by hydrating well (cook or soak in hot water or boiled milk) the milk (only organic, NON homoginized, and boiled) must have a little cardamom, clove, ginger, or similar digestive in it (cinnamon won't do the same) this is for both the milk and the nutrient dense herb of shatavari. Take 1/2 - 2/3 tsp two times a day is what I would start with, combining a lilttle ashwaghanda, jatamamsi and brahmi in equal parts or so would also be even better. About a teaspoon total is probably good, plus or minus. Sweeten to taste with appropriate sweetener (don't cook honey please, and of course avoid white refined sugar). Banyan's pound of Shatavari powder is maybe $20. That will go quite a ways for you and your neighbor, but please encourage her to look also at the referred to site free info, or order my parent's handbook it is cheap and will save much trouble. The herbs help, but are definitely a fix-all. After birth we are in a sacred window when all tissues and systems are in transition, and the biological mandate is total reset. But you have to properly support the process. Many cultures have some of this knowledge, the ones which statistically don't have problems postpartum. You may also want to read the article published in the July issue I think of the Light on Ayurveda Journal this year on the postpartum kayakalpa. Oh re tinctures, not Ayurveda's favorite method of delivery, among other reasons you loose much of the nutrition found in the rejuvenative tonics of ayurveda such as shatavari. Motherwort I don't know so well, except remembering it is quite bitter? Don't use early postpartum, it will aggravate the already highly aggravated doshic principle called VATA. I'll leave that discussion to someone else or the many introductory books on the subject. Except to say the postpartum vata management requires special modifications. Please forgive my website below will not be properly updated for one or two more weeks, but the site has much in the files. Peace and Good Health to all MOthers, and through them the rest of the World; Martha Oakes SWA MA CHI Postpartum AyurDoula Care, Handbook, Training, & Aromatherapy PO Box 2276, Alachua, FL 32616 - 2276 (352) 378-3660 ayurveda www.sacredwindow.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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