Shirodara(a defense of good ayurvedic docs)

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ayurveda, vinod3x3 wrote:

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> Unfortuantely the problem you mention is very common. I have

made

> many complaints about the cheating practices of many so called

> reputable ayurveda centers in India.

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> I pray that serious Ayurvedic practioners will reevaluate the

>isuues and come to a new conclusion that will lift the name of

>Ayurveda in the minds of foreigners not bring it down.

 

Hello ,

I have watched this debate and experience of foreigners and

NRIs and sometimes resident Indians too with some interest. There

is one distinct point in this entire discussion which has not yet

come to the fore. I have quite a few of my friends who are

ayurvedic doctors. I myself am an engineer. The background behind

the frustration among ayurvedic doctors is very simple.

 

In India there are 4 most popular medical streams. MBBS-Bachelor

of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery, BAMS-Bachelor of Ayurvedic

Medicine and surgery, BHMS-Bachelor of Homeopathic Medicine and

surgery and BUMS-Bachelor of Unani Medicine and Surgery. All of

these streams have full-fledged departments in most of the bigger

universities of India.

 

The crux of the issue is that Indian Government recognises only

MBBS and its respective postgrduate qualifications for

recruitment to Government Hospitals,which are the largest in

number.The medical services of the armed forces, the indian

railways, most private companies recruit MBBS students "only". And

you can very well imagine that they have a fixed and reasonably

secure source of income.

 

For the other streams,however,only God helps them. They end up

as private practitioners or at specialist ayurvedic clinics which

have sprung up on a large scale in recent times. It is very much

reasonable for them to charge fees so that they end up incomes on

par with the MBBS fellas. The end result of this is that the

people who believe in ayurveda and its benefits tend to get

disgusted with what they see as unreasonably high fees.

 

So I hope you understand the problems faced by ayurvedic

practitioners.The government really has a bias against them.They

now get some amounts of money only because the interest of

the westerners have convinced the government to allow reasonable

amounts of ayurvedic students to pass out. Until the bias ends, it

is difficult to be reasonable, atleast that is what I have heard

from my Ayurvedic friends.

 

I would suggest that foreigners(and NRIs) who intend to undergo

ayurvedic packages could first ask the intitution itself for a

list of foreign patients whom they have satisfied and then they

can get the useful feedback.

 

regards,

Ganadeva B

[Guest guest]

Bravo on this posting - it reveals part of the extremely complicated

issue that doctors face in India. Many young people find it very

difficult to get properly educated and certified in Aurveda - what to

say of developing a successful Ayurvedic practice. In India today the

Ayurvedic pharmaceutical industry drives most large Ayurvedic

Centeres.

 

How many young people have given up and gone into other fields - or

worse have gone into cheating business just to be able to make a

living and support their family with the practice of medicine. I have

lectured on this subject for several years and have immense empathy

for Vaidyas and their plight. Many idealistic people have been broken

by the challenge of medical practice in India. Also they are not

payed well!

 

One example is a young man who graduated his class with the highest

honors and was a true sanskrit scholar in the ayurvedic scriptures. I

met him a couple of years after his graduation and I asked him how

was his practice coming? He said "Sir I have gone into computer

field - I could not support my family with Ayurvedic practice".

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--- vinod3x3 wrote:

> Bravo on this posting - it reveals part of the

> extremely complicated

> issue that doctors face in India.

.....

.....

> One example is a young man who graduated his class

> with the highest honors and was a true sanskrit scholar in the

> ayurvedic scriptures. I met him a couple of years after his graduation and I

> asked him how was his practice coming? He said "Sir I have gone

> into computer field - I could not support my family with Ayurvedic

> practice".

 

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Hi all,

In this regard,I would like to mention that some

years ago Mr.A.R.Antulay who is an ex-chief minister

of Maharashtra State, called upon the union government

to develop an Indian medical system of eduction

whereby the best of all the treatments is taught.

It can be verified that such an advanced indigineous

medical course is already implemented in China by

their government, so the doctors there can treat

patients using allopathic,herbal drugs, acupunture,tai

chi,etc.

regards,

Ganadeva B

[Guest guest]

I feel that the weakest part of Ayurvedic training is good clinical

practice training- the system that the alleopaths use of training

doctors in their Intern programs is very effective for training

doctors - Ayurveda institutions need to provide as thorough a

clinical practice as possible so that doctors are trully experienced

in seeing and treating a broad range of cases.

 

 

ayurveda, bandyopadhyay ganadeva

<ganadeva_b> wrote:

 

> Hi all,

> In this regard,I would like to mention that some

> years ago Mr.A.R.Antulay who is an ex-chief minister

> of Maharashtra State, called upon the union government

> to develop an Indian medical system of eduction

> whereby the best of all the treatments is taught.

> It can be verified that such an advanced indigineous

> medical course is already implemented in China by

> their government, so the doctors there can treat

> patients using allopathic,herbal drugs, acupunture,tai

> chi,etc.

> regards,

> Ganadeva B