Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 05:28 AM, ayurveda wrote: > Jeeva shakti. Hence Todd recommends that all veggies feel happier > when they take something from other animals. Ghee, eggs, milk, etc. > Did we not grow most rapidly and healthily on mothers milk. Thus > animal derived foods have more Jeeva shakti and as Guru Khalsa > pointed out in yesterdays post, Animal food also has Karma hidden > inside it. What he calls Karma, the author terms it as intelligence. > Despite much progress in science, this Jeeva shakti, Karma etc has to > be believed as indirectly proven. Can anybody show gravitation, > electricity directly? There presence has to be accepted as an axiom. the difference is that with gravity and electricity (the latter of which can certainly be measured), is that they have an observed cause and effect relationship the negative effects of eating meat upon spiritual consciousness is not clear: it is a statement of theory/philosophy, but no way to actually see it in contrast to the oft stated perspective that eating meat impairs meditation (i.e. is more tamasic), I have not experienced this as an inherent truth; nor does this match with the experience of highly evolved masters of meditation from traditions outside of hinduism, e.g. Tibetan Buddhism, Bon, Sufism, Christianity, Judaism etc. if anything, poor nutrition would affect one's ability to concentrate and focus prolonged fasting (and a long term sub-optimal diet) can certainly promote an altered states of consciousness, but are these altered states more valid than one's regular consciousness, i.e. are these altered states simply a manifestation of disturbed vata? eating animal products is perhaps more tamasic, but this quality of tamas can reconnect oneself to the body, to one's physical consciousness to my understanding the basic perspective of Indian philosophy suggests that we should not deny the body, but recognize its existence within our own consciousness, and how this consciousness is affected by it being here, being now body-consciousness-spirit Caldecott phyto http://www.wrc.net/phyto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 As I have understood, food is live substance. The vibrations around meats are negative because of the fear, pain and suffering of the creature sacrificed for eating. Since animals are more evolved than vegetables, the negative vibrations in meat are stronger than in vegetables. These vibrations do affect one's inner peace i.e meditative state. One may overcome the vibrations but its avoidable. May be the non Hindus did not lay much stress on this aspect and did not specifically try it or study it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Dear ?? Your comment is very valuable and right to the point. The Buddhism and Christianity have those rules as well and ask not to kill. As explained in the 10 commandments of the Bible as well as the first rule in Buddhism we are held to respect life and not to kill. This is not only valid for humans even though it is used in such a way. Every act of violence is adding to our list of karma. The karma we face today is the result of yesterdays actions and the actions we take today makes tomorrows karma. Question: Why are fish seen differently in this respect.? In all religions in historical notes fish has been served or caught to feed even the saints and sages of all times. Could it be that fish do have a collective soul and are not individually seen outside their school. I have no clue but was wondering if any member of this group has any comments to this topic. Wishing you all happiness Sabrina - Vinod Haritwal Tuesday, April 06, 2004 2:39 AM Re: Diet Considerations for Health As I have understood, food is live substance. The vibrations around meats are negative because of the fear, pain and suffering of the creature sacrificed for eating. Since animals are more evolved than vegetables, the negative vibrations in meat are stronger than in vegetables. These vibrations do affect one's inner peace i.e meditative state. One may overcome the vibrations but its avoidable. May be the non Hindus did not lay much stress on this aspect and did not specifically try it or study it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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