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Dear Chai,

As you will agree with me, your son's case is a complicated one and

there is very little we can help you with using the medium of this

group.

Since you are already giving Basti treatment, I would suggest you go

in for matra-basti.

Matra-basti is a form of sneha-basti which can be given daily without

any side-effects.

You can start initially with 20 ml. of prefarably sesame seed oil and

increase the dose upto 50 ml. per day.

This will definitely give more results than dashmula basti and

isabgol. If you require help with the procedure do write in.

Secondly for both the sacral agenesis and neurophatic bladder we can

try giving a basti of meat juice (meat soup).

You have mentioned you do abhyanga every two days.

What oil do you use for the same.

Also is it full body or only over the concerned parts.

Do you know the procedure of kati-basti.

I think that will be more beneficial in this case.

Besides this there are many medicines which can be given for the

condition.

However that will require a personal examination by a trained

ayurveda practioner.

Where are you situated in U.K.

If there is a trained ayurvedic doctor in this group who resides in

the U.K., may be he/she can help you.

Meanwhile if you mention the following details somebody from the

group could suggest some more solution -

age, treatment given so far, improvement (if any).

 

Cybervaidya

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What you are saying is he is missing part of his spinal column?? Can he walk??

I would think a very good world renowned Orthopedic surgeon would be in order.

They may be able to fuse new bone where the others may be missing. Perhaps you

could fly him to the States? Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, or

Boston Children's Hospital may shed some light on this problem. I have no doubt

you are suffering badly, I, as a parent can understand your emotional upset. I

personally don't know enough about Auyrevda at this point in time, but I don't

think there is anything other than traditional medicine to help your poor son.

I wish you much success in your search for help.

Bonnie

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ayurveda, "Cybervaidya"

<cybervaidya> wrote:

> Dear Chai,

> As you will agree with me, your son's case is a complicated one and

> there is very little we can help you with using the medium of this

> group.

> Since you are already giving Basti treatment, I would suggest you

go

> in for matra-basti.

> Matra-basti is a form of sneha-basti which can be given daily

without

> any side-effects.

> You can start initially with 20 ml. of prefarably sesame seed oil

and

> increase the dose upto 50 ml. per day.

> This will definitely give more results than dashmula basti and

> isabgol. If you require help with the procedure do write in.

> Secondly for both the sacral agenesis and neurophatic bladder we

can

> try giving a basti of meat juice (meat soup).

> You have mentioned you do abhyanga every two days.

> What oil do you use for the same.

> Also is it full body or only over the concerned parts.

> Do you know the procedure of kati-basti.

> I think that will be more beneficial in this case.

> Besides this there are many medicines which can be given for the

> condition.

> However that will require a personal examination by a trained

> ayurveda practioner.

> Where are you situated in U.K.

> If there is a trained ayurvedic doctor in this group who resides in

> the U.K., may be he/she can help you.

> Meanwhile if you mention the following details somebody from the

> group could suggest some more solution -

> age, treatment given so far, improvement (if any).

>

> Cybervaidya

 

 

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Dear Cybervaidya: I do greatly appreciate your good advises. Yes I

also agree that Joshua Nitai (my son) is a very difficult clinical

story. Some times I do regreat not to had listened to my Guru's

advices. In any case, we are very greatful to God for his love and

compassion , and the lessons we have learned, at the same time I

want to say that things are more stable or manageable.

 

Regarding treatement: we are using the following:

 

for Basti a mixture of dashamula and sesame oil.

 

Orally for constipations one tea spoon of Isabgul seeds and husk.

The later it does not seems to me very effective. Increase the dose ?

 

Definetly we will try matra basti.

 

Regarding infections mainly produce by catheterization, we are

satisfy with the results, managing to almost eradicate them with the

help of cystone pill (not daily).

 

For Ashtma: is much under control with the help of a form of

pranayama , devised by a Russian Dr. called Buteyko.

 

I had in the past contacted on line with Dr. Kedar Shende, who gave

us a valuable information, but unfortunately we lost contact , the

following advise was given:

 

 

AFTER GOING THROUGH JOSHUA'S REPORTS WHICH WERE VERY EXTENSIVE, I

HAVE COME TO A CONCLUSION THAT T IS NOT JUST HIS ASTHI DHATU BUT ALL

HIS DHATUS FROM MANSA DHATU ONWARDS WHICH HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. AND THE

CASE CERTAINLY DESERVES A TOTAL CHECK UP BEFORE ANY COMMITTED ADVICE

AND PRESCRIPTION CAN BE MADE. BUT STILL UNTIL SUCH A SITUATION DOES

ARRIVE, AND SINCE YOU HAVE AGREED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WOLE

TREATMENT, I WOULD SUGGEST:

 

1. SNEHAN (OLEATION) WITH BALA TAIL OR BALA-ASHWAGANDHADI TAIL

OR MAHANARAYAN TAIL IN THE LOWER BACK AREA FOLLOWED BY SWEDAN (HOT

FOMENTATION).

2. I WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDED SOME SESAME OIL OR NARAYAN TAIL BASTI

(ENEMAS) FOR THE TONICITY OF HIS BLADDER AND COLON MUSCLES BUT THAT

CAN BE ONLY AFTER EXAMINATION OF THE PATIENT.

3. INTERNAL MEDICATION: AMAPACHAK VATI (AYURVED RASASHALA) 1 TABLET

THRCE A DAY, MORNING ON AN EMPTY STOMACH AND BEFORE BOTH MEALS.

 

 

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and my beloved Siksha guru Dr. Subodh Jagdale which unfortunatly I

lost contact with him: gave me the following advice:

 

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Dear Ekanth,

It is nice to hear that Joshua is doing better.It is a tough task

raising such a child especially when there is no help from anyone.I

went through a similar situation when my younger son Shreyas was born

nearly 2 years ago.

Well, I agree with Dr. Shende in most of his views.Joshua indeed has

a weak tone of the bladder muscles. So when urine volume becomes too

heavy the bladder simply allows it to pass.To increase the muscle

tone Bala tel or Bala ashwagandhadi tel or Narayan will be useful

for snehan as well as for basti.

20 cc of the tel for every basti on alternate days,massage of same

tel twice

a day on the whole body, especially lower abdomen - the apana area,

to strengthen the bladder & basti also helps the functioning of the

karma indriya.If it is difficult to get the oils you can make oil

from Asparagus (available) in Spain.It would work fairly well.

 

A lot more could be done if you were in India. I am quite sure that

this treatment should make much difference . It was good to hear

from you again. It brought back lovely memories of the good times we

had together in Koregon Park.

All my love & best wishes to happily serving your little Krishna.

Love.

Subodh

 

Dear Vaidya: please accept my apologies for presenting you this

troubles.

Hope the above information gave you a picture of the situation.

 

Thanks again for your loving help

 

 

Chai

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Dear Bonnie:

I do appreciate your information. A wise conbination of both

Conventional and Traditional Ayur veda is what we are intending to

achive. Don't forget that ayur veda is a wholistic approach of

allopathy and homeopathy + and more than that.

Regards and best wishes

chai

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Dear Chai,

How are you doing with the treatment of your same. From the detials

you have provided in the last e-mail it is clear that both Dr. Kedar

Shende & Dr. Subodh Jagdale feel the need for personal supervision.

Are you located in Spain or in UK. Besides the treatment you are

giving him at present it would be more better if an trained ayurveda

proffessional overlooks his treatment. If you give us the name of the

city or town where you are located maybe someone on the group can

guide you regarding the same.

 

Cybervaidya

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ayurveda, "Cybervaidya"

<cybervaidya> wrote:

> Sorry. Instead of " How are you doing with the treatment of your

> same", it should have been " How are you doing with the treatment

of

> your son"

 

Dear Ciber Vaidya:

 

I been away for two weeks in Spain, I'm back now . I'm resident in Uk

Hants, but moving to Spain soon, Since the last seven years we (my

wife and myself) we are working closely with allopathic Drs. and

listen to their advises and complementing with my ayur vedic

insight, in a sense we are living with special needs and in a sense

nobody knows better than our personal circumstances, we have no other

choice but to keep making prowress and remain positive, as such we

are bound to understand how the doshas are changing, and spetially

have a clear picture of your budget, how much you can afford,

available time, and so on. As I mention before we are here to serve

and make an spiritual progress, since time to time I connect with

some Vaidyas and I try follow the common sense,but I'm not running

here and there looking for the perfect treatment, just as a father

can do, with love and respect , I use my valuable life

experience,requesting permission from God within myself, just to

remind you I beging my studies of traditional Ayur Veda in Calcutta

in 1975,under the guidance of a powerful Vaishnava Vaidya. I did

further studies in Pune in the Ayur Vedic College,alone with this

valuable experience, I live with a Brazilian shamans. ( simmilar to

Eastern Auyur Veda.

 

What would you do if you live in an isolated island with no Dr. with

no one arround to help ?. Perhaps we all have to do one thing, just

trust God and beg for help, and develop a common sense. Are you with

me?

 

Before I forget. Allopatic Drs. Pediatritians ,are happy with the

evolution of Joshua, They told me I don't know nothing about ayur

Veda or Chiness medicie, but what you are doing seems to work. we

keep permanently open for the blessings of Dhanvantary, and it may

come at any time in any shape and any form.

 

thanks for your interest

 

best wishes

 

chai

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Dear chai,

 

hi....u all may not knw me...m jus a student of homoeoapthic med nd m very much

interested in alternative med...is y m assc wid the grp...i read all the

msgs...n try to learn more....urs is one wich has touched me deeply...

 

m very much impressed wid ur +ve attitude 2wards life nd the tremendous amt of

courage tht u hv....i cudnt help myself frm writing directly to u nd wishing the

best for joshua...may god shower all His blessings upon ur child...!

 

take care,

blessings & best wishes.

- neha!

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DEAR CHAI

I A,M AN AYURVEDIC CONSULTANT WORKING GLOBALLY IN AYURVEDIC MED.

I READ YOUR MESSAGE..& FELT U ARE DOIG GREAT JOB

SOUND DOES HAVE GREAT IMPACT....SOUND CAN BE SPOKEN OR THE INNER SOUND..BUT AS

LONG AS ONE HAS POSITIVE WAVES ABOUT THE ONE YOU ARE TREATING...DOES GIVE YOU

POSITIVE RESULTS.

ONCE CONGRATS ON THE GREAT WORK..U R DOING

REGARDS

DR.MANISH PATWARDHAN

 

Neha Agrawal <krishnaneha28 wrote:

Dear chai,

 

hi....u all may not knw me...m jus a student of homoeoapthic med nd m very much

interested in alternative med...is y m assc wid the grp...i read all the

msgs...n try to learn more....urs is one wich has touched me deeply...

 

m very much impressed wid ur +ve attitude 2wards life nd the tremendous amt of

courage tht u hv....i cudnt help myself frm writing directly to u nd wishing the

best for joshua...may god shower all His blessings upon ur child...!

 

take care,

blessings & best wishes.

- neha!

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Dear Dr. Manish:

 

I wish to express my gratitude for your encouragement.

Shabda Brhaman brings always the greatest healing power, I had

dedicated in my web page the importance of positive waves,(please

refer to http://www.be-here.com/power.htm . We may fail a thousand

times but God is very kind and easily available in the transcendental

Sound Vibration.

where are you located Dr. Manish?

 

Namaskar Jai Shree Ram !

chai

 

 

ayurveda, manish patwardhan

<drmspatwardhan> wrote:

> DEAR CHAI

> I A,M AN AYURVEDIC CONSULTANT WORKING GLOBALLY IN AYURVEDIC MED.

> I READ YOUR MESSAGE..& FELT U ARE DOIG GREAT JOB

> SOUND DOES HAVE GREAT IMPACT....SOUND CAN BE SPOKEN OR THE INNER

SOUND..BUT AS LONG AS ONE HAS POSITIVE WAVES ABOUT THE ONE YOU ARE

TREATING...DOES GIVE YOU POSITIVE RESULTS.

> ONCE CONGRATS ON THE GREAT WORK..U R DOING

> REGARDS

> DR.MANISH PATWARDHAN

>

> Neha Agrawal <krishnaneha28> wrote:

> Dear chai,

>

> hi....u all may not knw me...m jus a student of homoeoapthic med nd

m very much interested in alternative med...is y m assc wid the

grp...i read all the msgs...n try to learn more....urs is one wich

has touched me deeply...

>

> m very much impressed wid ur +ve attitude 2wards life nd the

tremendous amt of courage tht u hv....i cudnt help myself frm writing

directly to u nd wishing the best for joshua...may god shower all His

blessings upon ur child...!

>

> take care,

> blessings & best wishes.

> - neha!

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Dear Neha:

 

Your encouragement and good wishes are of no doubt of great help!.

 

may you aim to the highest !

 

best wishes

chai

 

 

ayurveda, Neha Agrawal

<krishnaneha28> wrote:

> Dear chai,

>

> hi....u all may not knw me...m jus a student of homoeoapthic med nd

m very much interested in alternative med...is y m assc wid the

grp...i read all the msgs...n try to learn more....urs is one wich

has touched me deeply...

>

> m very much impressed wid ur +ve attitude 2wards life nd the

tremendous amt of courage tht u hv....i cudnt help myself frm writing

directly to u nd wishing the best for joshua...may god shower all His

blessings upon ur child...!

>

> take care,

> blessings & best wishes.

> - neha!

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