Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 > > The translator of this article has published it here for benefits of > others and to repay the debt of the Lord Siva when he smiled on few > patients at the doorstep of Yama. There is no attempt to encourage a > sect or religion. This mail is also to improve the views of certain > members that Vedic science is guarded as secret and personal material > property by socially elite/Brahamanic class of India. hee hee! thanks Dr. Bhate for the veiled reference to my comments ;-) are you denying that there is Ayurvedic knowledge that is NOT taught to college-trained physicians, that remains the preserve of an elite, a tradition of hereditary knowledge that is very privately and secretly passed along from teacher to disciple? When I was in India I was constantly presented with this fact when I tried to deepen my studies - certain questions I had couldn't be answered by even by the best of Ayurvedic physicians, but they did say that there are live human repositories of this knowledge, but that if you weren't "in the circle" as it were, you were outta luck. And in India, being "in the circle" is largely a function of caste. In Kerala specifically, this knowledge is the preserve of the ashta vaidyas, a somewhat <infamous> group of hereditary physicians that practice outside of what is certainly one of the better systems of Ayurvedic training in India. Several of my ayurvedic colleagues have explicitly stated that much of the pariksha methods described in Ayurveda have minimal practical application in modern Ayurvedic practice, primarily because there is little knowledge about how to implement them on a practical basis, and thus college-trained practitioners rely primarily upon medical diagnostic techniques such as BP, urinalysis etc. Although the Brits were instrumental in causing serious harm to Ayurveda, the application of Western scientific methodologies can do much to help liberate Ayurveda from blind beliefs or empty tradition. I hear that KAPL down in Kerala are now conducting research into the benefits of kutipraveshikam, observing all the traditional rules and practices. It will be interesting to see if such techniques result in anything close to what is enthusiastically described in the texts. It is in this same spirit that savants like Gopi Krishna, one of the few authentic writers on the kundalini experience, wasn't afraid of using science as a tool to deepen our understanding of traditional knowledge, especially where this knowledge is obscure or hidden from sight. Alas, if scientists spent more time examining our shared human heritage instead of pursuing technology as an end in and of itself we might actually begin to improve the condition of many people's lives, and honor the potential of the human spirit. And thanks for the mantra - as i fortunately have no chronic illness (apart from the one that "I" am this body ;-), i won't the need to try it out. But I heartily encourage others on the list suffering from such conditions to give it a try and report back to us. And a quote from buddha, on the subject of knowledge: "It is proper for you Kalamas, to doubt, to be uncertain; uncertainty has arisen in you about what is doubtful. Come, Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon rumour; nor upon what is in the scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon consideration , 'The monk is our teacher'. Kalamas, when you yourselves know; 'These things are good; these things are not blamable; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness', enter on and abide in them." Anguttara Nikaya, Tika Nipata, Mahavagga: 65 best... Caldecott phyto http://www.wrc.net/phyto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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