Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Sat Nam and hello, I have been more than curious about probiotics, but recently in their use externally Yogi Bhajan talks about taking a "Yogurt bath". Also, Robert Svoboda talks about the alternatives to soap for bathing, as soap tends to strip away the the natural bio-flora (the mantle) of the skin which allows odor causing bacteria to move in. Have you ever noticed that sometimes when you get around a person who is using perfume, that there are actually two smells? One, the actual perfume, and two, the smell that they are trying to cover up. For all their efforts at soap use and scrubbing, they are actually making the situation worse, hence the need for more perfume. It's a very vicious cycle and a catch 22. Such people need to step back and do a different approach....poor thing. Anybody out there with more, or any, information on this? Thanks, Dharam Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Dear Dharam, soap indeed strips the skin of fatty acids which protect the skin and nourish commensal bacteria that ferment these fats and other secretions to make the skin slightly acidic, i.e. forming the acid mantle. I recommend not using soap of any kind, just water, unless one is actually dirty. For semi-regular use, a quick oil massage followed by a scrub with chana or some similar dried legume powder. I use this method when I work in the garden and my hands get dirty - rubbing my hands in olive oil, which appears to act as a good solvent, after which I'll use a little soap to remove the oil. As for body odour, we need to look at the underlying, metabolic causes, which might be diet (e.g. hing, garlic, coffee etc.), stress, ama, lack of exercise, dysbiosis/poor digestion etc. If there appears to be no underlying issue I try to recommend that folks find a natural scent that combines well with their particular body odour, such as Sandalwood EO for men, which seems to effectively mask the pungent high tones of apocrine glands (located in the axilla and groin), which account for the strong odour (as opposed to the more numerous eccrine glands which secrete sweat). For women, Sandalwood with perhaps more floral fragrances, e.g. Rosewood, Ylang, Jasmine etc. are quite nice. Synthetic perfumes rarely mix all that well with natural body scent, and often provoke negative responses in sensitive individuals. Anti-perspirants which contain aluminium as the active ingredient are IMO dangerous, although there is little clinical info to suggest this. As for a yoghurt bath, well, sure why not? But here we are actually only talking about the whey portion, which contains the bacteria, not the yoghurt itself. But its not all that practical, and I doubt that many would comply. Instead probiotics internally combined with the above measures to my mind makes a little more practical sense. Caldecott, Cl.H., AHG Clinical Herbalist Wild Rose Clinic ******************************************* of Clinical Herbal Studies Wild Rose College of Natural Healing ******************************************* 400 - 1228 Kensington Rd. NW Calgary, AB T2N 5P6 CANADA tel: (403) 270-0891 ext 315 fax: (403) 283-0799 email: phyto http://www.wrc.net/phyto ******************************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Dear Thank you very much for this clarification and new info (skin ph, dermal glands, etc.). It's only in the last few weeks that I have put down the soap. I have used olive and almond oil massage every morning for years followed by a cold shower with brisk rubbing/scrubbing. I haven't yet tried legume flour (chick pea flour aka Besan). Several weeks ago, as an experiment, I slept with a acidophilous solution in my armpits for several nights in a row with intention of restoring mantle wellness because if there was any area of my body that I have certainly used soap 2x a day, that would be it. So far, I think, I smell good but I haven't had to deal with any major stressors, which is when I would emit under arm odour. When the weather gets hot again (90F plus) I will try the full body "yogurt". "It's not just a body, it's an adventure" Sat Nam, Dharam Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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