gall bladder stones

[Guest guest]

Greetings

 

A series of liver gallbladder cleanses will remove all the stones. It

might be seen as somewhat similar to virechana purgation in panchakarma,

but this process is more specific and thorough. For details, see book

by ayurvedic doctor Andreas Moritz titled The Amazing Liver Cleanse.

Website http://www.ener-chi.com/liver.htm

 

Kind regards

 

OneLove

SpiritualAlchemy

 

Note from Andreas Moritz

 

There is an effort on behalf of certain individuals and establishments

to discredit the beneficial effects of the liver cleanse by proposing

that these gallstones are actually made of olive oil or are caused by

the liver in response to the sudden ingestion of the large quantity of

oil. These individuals have their own reasons for doing this, which is

not for me to elaborate on.

 

They have obviously never done a liver cleanse, themselves, otherwise

they would realize what these stones are made of. First, olive oil does

no have such a bad smell as is emanating from the gallstones. Second,

olive oil cannot congeal into such relatively hard structures, even if

it was chemically altered in a laboratory. This is even more impossible

given the short time frame the olive oil has to travel through the

gastro-intestinal tract and the total unavailability of any thickening

agents.

 

Third, analysis of the majority of the released gallstones reveals the

presence of all basic ingredients that make up the bile fluid. Many of

these consist of layers and layers of old, dark green bile, something

that does not happen overnight. The rest of the stones are the typical

calcified gallstones found in the gallbladder. Fourth, the olive oil

mixture does not even pass through the liver, as would be if it were

combined with food.

 

Therefore, the liver does nothing but release gallstones and bile. The

liver is not a soap factory either. Fifth, once the liver and

gallbladder are completely clean, there are no more gallstones being

released. If these stones were indeed made from olive oil , they would

occur even after all liver bile ducts are open. However, this is not the

case. There are thousands of people from all over the world who have

saved their gallbladders by the liver cleanse. Others have fully

regained their health and even saved their own lives by doing these

cleanses. Those who promote such false claims prevent their compatriots

and themselves from improving their well-being.

[Guest guest]

hello,

 

As a clinician I would like to emphasize that a great of care should be taken in

implementing the "so-called" liver cleanse, using olive oil with lemon juice, or

olive with apple juice, etc. The concern of course is that the large amount of

oil dumped into the small intestine would cause a profound secretion of bile

from the liver caniculi, significantly increasing the pressure in the gall

bladder and bile duct. Such a large increase in pressure may dislodge any

stones in the gall bladder, which may then procede to get stuck in the ampulla

of Vater (where the bile is ejected into the sm. intestine), causing a reflux of

pancreatic juices into the pancreas, and therefore causing acute pancreatitis, a

painful life threatening emergency condition.

 

For those of you who are not scientists or medical professionals, let me safely

state that much of the above written by "Andreas Moritz" is indefensible

nonsense. The author clearly has a limited and somewhat confused understanding

of the hepatobiliary system, which makes the comments in support of such methods

all the more dangerous. In regard to the claims that the saponified chunks of

olive oil actually represent gall stones, there is no proof of this, and I know

of several clinicians who have actively investigated this issue. Like me, these

folks are caring and responsible people who have no agenda to stifle useful

alternative practices.

 

On the whole, I would never recommend a liver flush to a patient with gall

stones, but it may be helpful as a method of cleansing in otherwise healthy

individuals In India, such methods are called snehana, and are used as a purva

karma in preparation to pancha karma. But such drastic procedures must be done

under careful supervision, as they are in India, typically in special Ayurvedic

hospitals.

 

As a sidenote, I have "cured" several patients with cholecystitis and

cholecystalgia, and none of these methods required the potentially dangerous

olive oil liver cleanse. These methods, using botanicals that have a

lithotriptic activity, are used over a period of weeks and months to slowly

break down the stones, not in one fell swoop. Gall stones take years to form,

so why should we expect that a couple days of cleansing can get rid of them?

Nonetheless, the initial treatment usually brings profound relief, and I have

had several patients that have been able to cancel their gall bladder surgeries

(cholecystectomy). Examples of useful herbs for gall stones include Black

Radish seed, Barberry root, Stone root (Collinsonia), Dandelion root, and Globe

Artichoke. Ayurvedic herbs include Haridra, Bhumyamalaki, Katuki, and Guduchi.

The underlying problem is usually agnimandya, and thus herbs that enhance agni

and circulation are helpful, including Shunthi and Ajamoda. Additional remedies

might include choline, methionine, inositol, lecithin, magnesium and vit C. To

relieve gall bladder pain (cholecystalgia) Western herbs such as Fringe Tree can

be very helpful, as can Celandine, the latter of which should be used only under

practitioner guidance. In many patients there is a concommitant problem with

truncal-abdominal weight gain and impaired pelvic circulation, which needs to be

corrected by dramatically cutting back on sticky, heavy, sweet foods such as

flour and dairy, and eating more laghu (light) foods such as vegetables, and

ushna (hot) foods such as free-range meat. Constipation needs to be addressed,

and thus formulas like Triphala can be very helpful, as is adequate vegetable

fiber and probiotics. Water consumption should be sufficient, and weight

bearing exercise is usually very helpful.

 

hope this is of some help...

Caldecott

www.wrc.net/phyto

[Guest guest]

Dear Todd

Thank you for your thoughtful commentary. Your concerns about the liver

cleanse appear valid. However, I am going to assume you have not read in

detail the precise instructions for the cleanse as described in The

Amazing Liver Cleanse book by Andreas Moritz. And I assume you have not

actually done a liver cleanse yourself as prescribed by Andreas Moritz.

I have researched this process for the past year, read the book by

Andreas, and have personally done a number of liver cleanses myself

successfully. The liver cleanse prescribed by Andreas is distinctly

different from the others. Andreas has modified a old technique with

pre-cleanse and post-cleanse protocols. The stones are first softened

for easy passage with pre-cleanse, bile ducts are open during cleanse,

and any residual stones in the colon are removed with post-cleanse.

There is a similar liver cleanse promoted by Hulda Clark, however she

does not use the modifications that Andreas employs. Personally, I feel

the cleanse she is promoting is very unsound and potentially dangerous.

I have seen one case where the person following her cleanse wound up in

the hospital for bile regurgitation.

Andreas on the other hand, with his experience of prescribing his

cleanse to thousands of clients, has not had any problems except for

those who have failed to employ the pre-cleanse and post-cleanse

protocols. He makes his warning about this very clear in his book.

I admit the liver cleanse as prescribed by Andreas needs documented case

study analysis before it is seen as valid before the eyes of alternative

and conventional medicine. Regarding the stones are olive oil issue,

that needs further analysis too, however here is one documented case

where lab analysis stated otherwise

http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=4&i=1152

What Andreas has found from experience, is that when people remove all

their stones from a series of cleanses, not just one, their disease

symptoms from numerous health issues disappear. I feel Andreas has

modified an old technique that has tremendous value and needs to be

looked at closely by the health community. To merely pass if off as

"indefensible nonsense" is incomplete. I feel ayurvedic medicine is open

to creative adaptation in order to meet the needs of modern culture.

Andreas told me personally that traditional panchakarma treatments did

not help his gallbladder issue at all.

Your herbal protocols look sound for calcified stones, but from my

research, there are no herbs for addressing uncalcified bile stones and

cholesterol stones that clog the liver and gallbladder. In all due

respect to Andreas, I suggest you communicate with him directly and

research this issue more closely before criticizing his methodologies.

 

Most kindly

OneLove

[Guest guest]

Dear Todd

 

You can communicate directly with Andreas Moritz through his discussion

forum here

http://www.curezone.com/forums/description.asp?f=157

 

With your background and his background, perhaps insights will be

garnered that will be of benefit to everyone.

 

Kind regards

 

OneLove