Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Sairam, Devotees Experiences - C.G.Narke UPADESA, MANTRA, TANTRA, ETC. Sai Baba never gave me any mantra, tantra or Upadesa - and so far as I know, he gave these to none. Madhavarao Deshpande has told me of the following incident, Radhabai Desmukhin was at Shirdi waiting for a time on Baba and she wanted Upadesa. Finding that He gave her none, she started Satyagraha. She stopped taking food and was determined to be without food until Sai Baba should give her Upadesa. On the fourth day of the fast, Madhavarao taking pity on her condition went and told Sai Baba of it and requested Him to pronounce the name of some God, so that she might take it as the mantropadesa for Japa. Baba then sent for her and told her that giving Upadesa was not in His line, that He following His Guru had different traditions, that His Guru was so powerful that He trembled to go and stand before him, and that the help given by the Guru was invisible and secret and not by oral instruction. / do not instruct through the ear. Our traditions are different was what He said. Sai Baba never lectured, nor discoursed systemati¬cally as others do. He gave hints - very pregnant hints. A word or a sentence or two at a time was all He cared to utter. But from them an observant devotee could build up his own system, lecture or philosophy. It is difficult therefore to be dogmatic if one is asked what are Sai Baba's aims, methods etc.? But stray hints were forthcoming. AIM IN LIFE OR PURUSHARTHA Did Sai Baba ask people to aim at Moksha? Did He advocate Viveka and Vairagya? Never have I heard that from His lips. Reaching God is the aim. That was the way He put i.e.. Reaching God, Crossing or traversing all the Oceans and Worlds Getting beyond chains (or limits). He never (so far as I know) spoke of Maya (or the theory that all existence in the sublunary sphere is mere illusion) to my knowledge. He took the commonsense view that this world and the worlds beyond are real, and that we have to make the best of them, here and hereafter. KARMA AND REINCARNATION These were frequently referred to by Him. "We must sow good (results) in this life and the next" was the truth that underlay many of the stories He told. He frequently referred to past lives of others and occasionally referred to the future life of some. No one moving with Him could have even a momentary doubt about post mo; iem existence and the exis¬tence of other worlds than this, wherein rewards and punish¬ments for acts done here would be reaped. These are Hindu doctrines and beliefs. Coming to the question of Baba's Hin¬duism or other religion - Baba never declared (so far as I know) whether He belongs to any religion, caste, creed, etc. He was above all. But He has mentioned and done several things showing His relation to Hinduism. I have heard Sai Baba say My Guru is a Brahmin. BABA'S ATTITUDE TO HINDUISM AND BRAHMINS Baba had a great regard for the B.Gito, Bhawartha Ramayana, Eknath Bhagwata* Panchadashl Yoga Vasishta, the Puranas, etc. His talks had reference to the contents of these often. When Jnanadeva's Arati was begun, He would sit up, fold His hands joining His palms in front of His chest in token of reverence and close His eyes. About Panchadashi, He said to Mr.Khaparde (as I hear) This is our treasury, i.e., it contains whatever is valuable for our spiritual welfare. I know personally His reverence for Yoga Vasishta. One day, in my early days (1914), Baba asked me several times to give Him Rs.15 as Dakshina. I had no money and He knew that fully well. So when I was alone with Him, I said "Baba, you know, I have no money and why do You ask me for Rs.15 Dakshina?" Baba answered that He knew my impe¬cunious condition well enough. "But" He added "you are reading Yoga Vasishta now. The part you are now reading is specially important. Get Me Rs.15 Dakshina from thtf. I was reading Yoga Vasishta. Getting money out of it was deriving valuable lessons therefrom; and giving the money to Baba meant of course lodging the lessons in my heart, where He stayed as my Antaryaml I also know that He held Rama and Krishna in great reverence, BABA AND MAHARASHTRA SATPURUSHAS Baba had great reverence for Saints like Jnanaeshwar, Tukaram. What were the aims, and the virtues needed for achieving them, in Sai Baba's view and what sadhanas did He favour? OF THE FOUR MARGAS I. Yoga Marga Regarding this as chiefly based on (1) Asana (2) Pranayama (3) Concentration (4) Rousing the Kundalini and (5) Achieving higher powers thereby, en route, Sai Baba did not care for these. These were not the steps He recommended to any so far as I know. On the other hand, He said (I know personally), "Those who proceed by the method of Pranayama must come to Me ultimately for further progress. II. Karma Marga Baba set the example of living amidst society and labouring to produce goods. He ground grain into flour. He was not for ascetic desertion of society, nor for begging. Though He Himself begged within limits (prescribed by His Rinanubandha perhaps) it was for a little food only and when He demanded Dakshina that was for a number of reasons, chiefly clearing off Rinanubandha, He wanted the general run of visitors to continue their grihasta lives and did not advo¬cate Sanyas,i.e., that they should renounce society or go to beg. He made me and Vamanrao Beg, not for ourselves but only for the Guru - as humble service to the Guru. Though Baba did not say so, I think He realised the evil of begging, i.e., indiscriminate begging, to be the loss of one's stored up merit, i.e., "Apurva". Sai Baba's demand for Dakshina was explained by Him, when some one asked Him why He asked for Dakshina "Hello, do I ask Dakshina of every one? I de¬mand only from those whom the Fakir (God) points out to Me". He demanded only particular sums, and would not accept anything more. None refused Dakshina, when He wanted it. Sometimes the demand had other meaning, e.g.,(I) get away, (2) get into contact with X,Y,Z etc. III. Jnana Marga If this is taken as something confined to inquiry into the Self and an effort to understand the Upanishads and Brahmasutras to get light on that inquiry that was not Baba's method and aim. His wish was not expressed. But by His example, His devotees should infer that He wanted them to become like Himself. His knowledge and experience were, so far as I could see, real and realistic. His awareness ex¬ceeded the bounds of our space and time - extended over all the worlds and embraced the distant past and future as well as the present. He knew, therefore, what existence in any of the worlds and at any time had to offer for the soul's enjoy¬ment and with such knowledge He renounced all attachment. He was perfectly detached amidst numerous attractions. His life was, therefore, real Vairagya and real Nishkamya Karma which would lead one to God. IV. Bhakti Marga This is, of course, the main plank of most saints - as it is, of Sai Baba. Obeying, serving and loving God are its chief features. The peculiar feature stressed by Sai's example and words is the vast Importance of developing this devotion on the basis of devotion to one's guru or teacher. It is seeing God in, through and as the Guru, identifying the Guru with God. 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