Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 one thing i do not understand. we get punya due to swamis darshan or due to punya, we get swamis darshan? On 8/11/05, Sathya <sathyanarayananqc wrote: > > > shivathmika <shivathmika wrote: > "shivathmika" <shivathmika > Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:00:55 +1000 > [saibabanews] China Katha from Swami (Vishvamitra & Vashista) > > > > This is the story narrated by Swami to show the importance of being present > in a congregation of sadhus and emphasise the fact of the merits we have > earned to have the dharshan, sambashan & sparshan of the Divinity. > > In Swami's words ……………… > > If the people in the olden days had the opportunity of listening to the > divine discourses and sambhashana with God, they would not have gone to the > forests to do penance at all. In those days even eminent rishis would invite > other great rishis to give divine discourses. Maharishi Vasishtha once had > an opportunity of such a satsanga for one and a half galige (galige: span of > twenty four minutes) by being in Brahmaloka for a moment. You are getting > the benefits of such satsanga here for four hours every day (bhajan, > darshan, upanyasa, and so on). Your punya is, therefore, immeasurable. But, > do not feel proud about it. > > Once Brahmarishi Vasishtha and Rajarishi Vishvamitra invited some eminent > sages to give spiritual discourses. In that great gathering of rishis, > Vishvamitra gifted the punyaphala obtained by his dvadasha vrata to > Vasishtha. In return, Vasishtha offered to gift away a quarter of the > punyaphala obtained in Brahmaloka. Vishvamitra felt slighted thinking that > for his gift of the merits of twelve months' penance, Vasishtha had given > him only a negligible measure of his punyaphala. With that idea, he rejected > Vasishtha's offer. Vasishtha tried hard to convince Vishvamitra of the > greatness of the punyaphala. Finally, he turned to the rishis and asked them > to convince Vishvamitra. They replied, "You are greater than all of us. We > cannot advice you. It is better if you can get a person greater than you to > arbitrate." Sage Vasishtha told Vishvamitra to bring Surya, Vayu, Agastya > and Adishesha for arbitration. During Girijakalyana, when the entire > entourage of Shiva congregated on the northern side of Himalaya, the > southern part rose. The devas then made Maharishi Agastya sit on the raised > portion to counter the imbalance. Such was his mahima. Sage Vishvamitra left > to get them. When he requested Surya to come, Surya said, "I cannot leave my > place and come with you. If I do, the entire world will be in darkness. If > you can take my place for sometime, I can go and give my opinion." > Vishvamitra could not comply with the condition and returned. Vayu, Agastya > and Adishesha also put similar conditions and he returned alone. > > Then, Vasishtha proceeded to get them. He divided the one and a half galige > punyaphala into four equal parts. With the strength of these, he substituted > Surya by his sphatika japamala; his yogadanda took the place of Adishesha; > his chamara took the place of Vayu and his kamandala replaced Agastya. All > the four of them accompanied Vasishtha. Seeing them coming, Vishvamitra was > highly surprised. He said, "Brahmarishi, enough. Seeing them come with you > has made me realize your greatness. There is no need for arbitration," and > prostrated before Vasishtha. He prayed Vasishtha to bless him by giving the > quarter of the punyaphala. Vasistha said, "Where is the punyaphala? It was > only by using that punyaphala, I was able to bring the four of them here." > Vishvamitra realized his mistake and regretted. > > Swami then continues ………………. > > With the punya of one and a half galige, Vasishtha could do so much. HERE, > YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT WITH ME IN BHAJAN AND LISTEN TO DISCOURSES > FOR HOURS. IS IT POSSIBLE TO MEASURE THE PUNYAPHALA YOU ARE ACCUMULATING? DO > YOU NOW REALISE HOW MUCH IMPORTANCE THE GATHERING OF HOLY MEN HAS? YOU ARE > ENJOYING THIS ONLY DUE TO PUNYAPHALA OF MANY BIRTHS. > > Sai Ram > > > > Shivathmika > > > > Sathya > > "Hands that help are holier than lips that pray" - BABA -- Regards, Balraj Goulikar 022-25620354 ®, 9880766900 080-51056766 (O) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 I think it works both ways. Definitely due to swami's darshan one gets a lot of punya, but to get that darshan, we must have our share of good merits!!!! Good begets good, and more good. The additional bonus of coming into Swami's fold is that He puts you on the spiritual path right away, with all the bhajans, Seva opportunities, etc. Balraj Goulikar <gbalraj wrote: one thing i do not understand. we get punya due to swamis darshan or due to punya, we get swamis darshan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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