Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 nim raj <appling72 Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:07am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sai Ram, Swami does not need any publicity of such sort. His Life is His Message, and as long as we continue to be his ambassadors, Swami would be very happy. Jai Sai Ram! ---------- AG Prasad Kumar <agpkumar Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:18am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Dear Brother Soumendra, Our Beloved SWAMI is above all these and doesnt need to be nominated as he himself is controlling the Universe. Sai Ram, AGP Kumar ---------- "SAIpapu" <saipapu Cc: <soumendra_toronto Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:45am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sairam Soumendra bhai Brother, do Bhagwan need any award ??????? I had heard earlier, Swami's name for the award was thouhgt of when one of Noble's family member beonging to World Space Radio expressed Swami about the same during his visit to Puttaparthi in connection of Radio Sai Global Harmony which was rejected by Swami. I dont know whether above was true or just rumour. Sairam brother. Papu ---------- Sai Sandesh <saisandesh Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:22am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Teachers do not compete with students...isn't it? Mother does not compete with children, isn't it? What's the point in God competing with humans? It's God who gifts humans .... what can humans gift Him except Love? I believe it's time for the world to recognize Him as the pervading Power, the Lord of Lords, not just as a peace supporter or reformer. I believe it's time for each one of us to realize Him as our own inner reflection and strive to live every every moment in that consciousness....to emulate the example He has set for us. I believe it's time for us to treat both difficulties and sorrows as equals and shed body consciousness, and live like the embodiments of Divinity as much as He Himself is! With hand on my heart, I have not seen another personality in the human history or mythologies or even in my dreams, a person like Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. A person who has lived every moment in bliss, lived as an example of Love....and cured millions of physical, mental and of all the worldly disease (Bhava Roga). As Swami Himself indicated, in every Avtar, God played some drama as if His will is not happening. In Swami's Avtar only God was so explicit...so straight-forward....He said He is God...to all the world and lived every moment to prove it. As Swami urged, what all He expects from us is not an award, but to shun all the desires and become one with Him. To realize Him within us and lead every moment in that bliss. To wrap up out individual Karmic dramas and get back to Him. Nothing less. Dear brother, I intend no arrogance or preaching. The sense behind my words is only to stress the deep urgency of following Swami's command and desiring the highest bliss always.....nothing less. When I write these words, I am telling these words to myself. Sometimes I feel in all Discourses, He is just repeating the same thing...."I am you. God is in you. Bliss is in you. Goal is in you."....nothing, nothing new. Same old sentence. But the next moment, wisdom strikes me....even after the umpteen times He repeated it, the umpteen miracles He showed me, the boundless Love He has showered on me...I have not implemented His words yet. It shall not be the case anymore. Jai Jai Sairam! ---------- "H Gayatri" <hcgayatri Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:58am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? He is an Avataar by himself - God supreme. Its not the nobelprize he wants but wnts us to do noble things with Love and follow his teachings -that itself is his prize. ---------- Bodla Ramesh <rameshbodla Cc: soumendra_toronto Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:30am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sairam Brother Soumendra.. "so many others for Peace awards but I fail to understand why not Bhagavan Sree Sathya Sai Baba? why ?? Why ?????" Its very simple and easy to answer your question. They are getting awards b'coz all of them are Great Spiritual Guru's, they reached the state of Divinity. But our Swami is different, he is Bhagwan and come down to earth in human form to change our life through his pure love. I think No noble prize or any other award would make him happy. And i think there is no such Prize or award so that anybody can nominate Swami.. If we follow his teachings then its equal to crores of noble prize to him. Swami never desired anything from us..he is giving giving giving... only the thing he desired is pure love towards him. Many many Pranams at the lotus feet of Bhagwan. Sairam Bodla.ramesh ---------- v.shyamsunder Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:00am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sai ram, I feel that swami is the creator of the nobel prize.Hence there is no need for any human to give swami a momento of appreciation like nobel prize, if he wishes , he would get it anytime, then i believe he wont be swami any more...Swami 'THE creator' shall take care of all of us, and the nominations are for e.g yogi Ravi or dalai lama who are humans who may be divine and not the divine in human form. if i have hurt anyone's feeling pls excuse. May swami bless us all with peace and prosperity. OM SAI RAM, swami's child, shyam ---------- "Reet" <reet.priiman Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:51am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Light and Love All worldly titles and prizes belong to the prominent human beings and saints who have promoted different kinds of actions for benefit and development of society on the level of human activities. However, Swami is the Avatar in human body. Avatar's life rules are different from humans' ones. Humans' prizes have distributed by His Cosmic Omnipresent Form's Grace. (All worldly prizes are His, how can He to prefer one of them)? Swami's greatest prize on the Earth is when all human beings will install the Lord in their hearts, (let it be by whatsoever name) and will follow the eternal human values in their life. Namaste - Reet ---------- Angelicpassage Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:24am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sairam I heard that Swami was offered but he turned it down and said "Give it to the Sai Organization"...I dont know how true this is because sometimes we hear that Swami has said this or that. Better to hear from his lips. But this is what I heard not long ago. SaiRam ---------- "Venkat Govindarajan" <saivasan Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:25am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sairam, Swami is Divine incarnation in Human form. Who is competent to judge him and suggestion of a Nobel Prize is like devaluating Swami. just a thought Venkat ---------- Bala <balakumar79 Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:33am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? sairam, you are forgetting brother, Swami is Siddha-Sankalpa (Whatever happens is his will). Besides the award is for human beings with god-gifted qualities not for God himself !!! sairam Bala ---------- "sundaram_6" <sundaram_6 Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:47am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sairam Brother soumendra: What a Question, sairam? You equate our beloved Swami to mere learned and enlightened humans who get awards and prizes? No, brother, our Swami is Kalyug ke Avatar and so, He is much much above all these awards and medals. All those you have referred to in your mail are just enlightened humans.....our Swami is God in human form. Our Swami decides the people who should be honoured and our Government or anybody representing the govt. is only an Instrument......Our Swami is the doer......please dont ever raise such topics. Our Swami is Bhagwan. Sairm ---------- Madhu <nomavi Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:14am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sairam Brother Soumendra, In my opinion SWAMI is GOD. All those who get nominated or get Nobel and other wards do so because HE willed it. GOD always gives whatever is due to all, HE is EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING (including Nobel award) is HIS, no one can give anything to HIM, all HE wants is for us to follow HIS teachings, rise above body consciuosness, become good / better / best individuals spreading DIVINE Love everywhere, thus leading to a better society / world / universe. Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu. In Sai seva, Madhusudan Nori ---------- RK MODI <saimodi Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:09am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? OM SAI RAM !!! Swami is above all these so called Prizes . Is there any one ' capable' who can give Prize/award to SWAMI or is there any such Prize at the level of SWAMI. Swami is the GIVER only Sai Ram RK MODI PRASHANTI TEXTILE CORPORATION D-43, BHILWARA TEXTILE MARKET P.O. BHILWARA- RAJASTHAN INDIA- 311001 PHONE : +91 1482 246375 FAX : +91 1482 247150 MOBILE: +91 98290 45135 E-MAIL : saimodi Skype id: saimodi saibabanews, Soumendra Bhattacharjee <soumendra_toronto> wrote: > > Sai Ram All , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Prabhakar Devarakonda <prabhakar_devarakonda Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:56am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Om Sri Sai Ram Dear Sai Brother. What you feel is true.As human beings we are prone to feel so. But in my opinion SWAMI IS GOD.He is always a giver & not a taker.It is only we mortals who hanker around such worldly laurels &gifts.He is above all such credits.So it may not be of such concern.As humans if we follow His teachings & foot steps it is sufficient to cross this ocean of sansar. May Swami bless all of us including the Nobel Prize winners. Sai ram Prabhakar Devarakonda. Vancouver-Canada ---------- CARL ROSEN <carlrosen Wed Jan 18, 2006 0:40pm Re: [saibabanews] Re: Noble Prize-why not Swami? Hello, Swami does not need anything that we can give him. He is here to give to us on every level that which we need. Swami is totally happy, he gives happiness to us, leading, guiding us. if we said "yes" to Him, he is the "Hound of Heaven" and will not give up until our "yes" is accomplished in our surrender to Him. It is tempting to our limited vision to have Him receive the Nobel. Hey, Which of the several Nobels would he not be eligible? Education, Economic theory, Chemistry, physics, evolution explanation, mathematics, service to others, et cetera, et cetera. Yes, He is beyond the Nobel notions. It is fun to speculate, isn't it? Carl Rosen ---------- "R chandrasekar" <rr_chandrasekar Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:15am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Dear Soumendra ji The created cannot give awards to the creator. Has anyone ever given award to Parents. Our heart should be full of Thankfulness for the love we receive and obey the command with a total sense of surrender. It is SAI MA beyond all human awards. She needs only LOVE from her children. Sairam R.Chandrashekar Chheda Nagar Chembur Mumbai India ----------- Arundhathi Haridasan <arundhathihari Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:19pm Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? sai ram dear brother, i was surprised while going through your mail, because i feel our swami never need any nobleprize or any other thing like that. he himself is the door of all these dramas. i believe he will never accept anything like that. most of us know that in front of his value everything is priceless. swami is the most powerful and precious among all in this world, then how can someone measure him by giving nobleprize or something more than that. our swami's value is not limited in a peice of paper. this is my openion. your sister in sai arundhathihari ---------- shivathmika Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:29pm Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sai Ram Brother Do we need a nobel prize to be given to Swami to make people to respect/know him? Swami in His discourse advises us to be a "NOBLE" souls rather than "NOBEL" prize winners. Quote from the Discourse in the Puurnachandhra Auditorium on 14-1- 1996, after distribution of prizes to winners in sports and games. "Young people, failing to exercise control over their actions, tend to become unruly and ungovernable. You may be great scholars or intellectual giants. There are many Nobel Laureates. How many remember them? But the great benefactors of mankind, the men of noble qualities, are cherished by all mankind. For instance, there is the example of a noble soul from Calcutta. Calcutta produced many great intellectuals. After a time they are not remembered at all. But if today Raamakrishna Paramahamsa, an illiterate person, is enshrined in the hearts of millions all over the world, is education responsible for it? Likewise, if many noble persons are enshrined in the hearts of people, what is the reason? They have earned their good name by their faith in God, their character, magnanimity and spirit of sacrifice. God has been the prime factor in their lives." (Taken from http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume29/sss29-02.pdf ) In other words, Swami says Rabindranath Tagore (born in Calcutta) who was awarded with the Nobel prize for `Literature' in 1913 is known by many, but Ramakrishna Paramahamsa who was also born in the same Calcutta but NOT awarded with Nobel prize is cherished by millions around the world. Further, we shouldn't forget how the "Nobel prize" was initiated. Alfred Nobel worked on and discovered dynamite, which caused great destruction. Alfred was very unhappy at this. He had a lot of money and fame, but he felt so miserable for the destruction he brought to humanity that he made a will and donated all his wealth for the good of humanity. (Taken from http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume14/sss14-54.pdf ) Thus, Alfred Nobel repenting on his discovery started this with a view to wash his sins away. Do our loving Swami the advent of Kali Yuga who has descended from heaven and dedicated His life endlessly to the humanity, need such Nobel Prize created by a human to wash his sins away, to make the humans to recognise His divinity??? Sai Ram Shivathmika ---------- "Ramanathan VG" <ramanathan.vg Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:21pm RE: [saibabanews] Re: Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sairam, GOD to have a prize ?????? SWAMI is above all these. He is giving us the noblest prize of LOVE and Happiness through SERVICE. With lov VGR ---------- "R R" <radheyr Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:12pm RE: [saibabanews] Re: Noble Prize-why not Swami? Om Jai Sai Raam....I totally agree with you...Swami does NOT NEED ANY PUBLICITY....This is only a human act....yes it is true..we only have to follow Swami's teachings for Swami's life is his message now reverted to Swami's message is OUR LIFE......That is the recognition and award SWAMI will want!!! Even though Swami demonstrates exemplary qualities of compassion, generosity, and wisdom and Love.... Swami encourages us to recognize who we are. We are not these minds. We are not these bodies. We are the eternal spirit that temporarily occupies these minds and bodies. We can appreciate and become who we really are by turning inward with faith in God and an intense yearning to know Him. Our conscience is a reflection of the eternal spirit. For us to be able to follow Swami's teachings is the ONLY RECOGNITION AND AWARD Swami will want.... I offer my most humble pranaams at the lotus feet of the beloved Lord Of The Universe...Bhagawan Sri Sai Baba... Om Jai Sai Raam Your sister in sai Radhey ---------- paulson kunal <paulson_kunal Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:45pm Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sai Ram, I am surprised by the thought, why not SWAMI for nobel prize. What is the nobel prize ? Who gives it and to whom it is given ? without thinking on these aspects if you, me or we (all of us) put this as question I can never consider it worth considertaion. All these prizes and digrees including nobel prize are worldly. People give and decide this and to people these are given. I don't think that there could be any thing in the whole world which could be given to the LORD, BHAGWAN, ALMIGHTY which could be called some digree or which may considered for the status simble. It is well said BHAGWAN does not require advertisement. Nor there is any person, institute in this world which can be helpful in upliftening the status of BHAGWAN. Because it is already on the TOP OF TOPS even HIGHER then the HEIGHT of HEIGHTS. No words, no degree is required to make him more bigger or more powerful or more populer. In fact he is the supremo, Who can ever think or decide to say or offer any position to him when HE is already at the highest position. Nobel prize is for the worldly people and not for the BHAGWAN. With love, At the lotus feet of BHAGWAN BABA GHAYAL ---------- Neeraj Verma <sairam2201 Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:19pm Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sairam Brother, These awards are instituted for humans not for GOD. He is above these, his glory, his powers, his love is to be felt and are for us, not to be rewarded. The best reward what we lesser mortals can give him is by following his instructions. Sairam Neeraj ---------- dvs prasad <dvs_prasad2001 Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:19pm Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? dvs_prasad2001 Offline Send Message Edit Membership dear sir, your agony is understandable completely, but kindly through little light on the following issues: 1. our Swamy is not for publicity. if at all so, he could have achieved this or more than Noble prize long long long back. not only Himself, His ardent devotees through out the world are not for any name or fame sake. it is our hearts to show the reverence. 2. if shri Ravishankar or Smt. Amma are/were nominated, it is for them to analyze deeply with that what they are going to get. it is only a piece of crown for their achievement. our Swamy is not for any recognization for His divine deeds. 3. tomorrow if any [god forbidden] reason it is found that some kind of favourism was found during the selection, it is also going to attribute to our Swamy's purity. 4. please trust me, our Swamy is beyond all sort of recognizations for praise through name & fame. 5. the greatest recognization or reward is nothing but following His principles all the time. 6. you must have by this time noticed how much importance He gives for the bureaucrats or for the most famous people. i have personally noticed big shots waiting for His darshan although they can dictate terms to most of us but they wait for His darshan. hence, please do not feel for these petty things. i know it is hard to digest but this is the truth. else, please pray for Him for a sound solution, you shall certainly understand. this is not atall debatable issue please. myentire family is attached to Him for the last 3 generations, hence, this message. with regds dvs prasad ---------- Balakrishna Abburi <abburib51 Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:01am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sai Ram, Why does Swami need a Nobel Prize? What is he going to do with this? He is an Avathar by Himself & will not accept any such Nobel Prize or any other honour which r limited to human consumption only & not like GODly Avathars like our beloved Baba, Jai sai ram, BalaKRISHNA aBBURI ---------- "Kartik Mehta" <kartik.mehta Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:23am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? sairam., sawami not need any awards sawami need our devotion. when we follow bhagwans massages than sawami is happy. Satya sai baba is not sadhu or pandit, he is a God, Bhagwan Sri Satya Saibaba said work is workship duty is god. Do your work not expect anything from anyone. Therefore Bhagwan baba not need any Awards for other. Baba want awards with us like bhakati like seva live samarpan. Regards, Kartik ---------- Saraswathi sarvothaman <vigadvaith96 Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:28am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sairam brothers & sisters I Think Sairam Is universe himself so there is no need man created things Or Awards to be presented to god We should show our love for him by atleast following his preachings in words & kind Jai Sairam Humble Pranams at the Lotus Feet of Lord Sairam ---------- Saijyothi KOSURI <saijyothi_kosuri Thu Jan 19, 2006 0:15am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? Sairam to all Sai brothers and sisters. I do agree with Ghayal. All these noble prizes are worldy things. When our baba is ALMIGHTY, who he can give to our LORD. Sairam Saijyothi ---------- jayanthi mahesh <jaimax11 Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:38am Noble Prize-why not Swami bcoz no one superior than swami sairam nobel prize is issued 2 anyone by higher authority and only if our swami wills right. Our swami willed mr. Yogi Ravi Shankar of Bangalore to be nominated for Noble Prize, similarly for Ammajee and Dalai Lama. Whose the superior enough 2 give our swami a nobel prize ? its quite impossible. our swami isnt actor or any ambassador to have an identity. he neednt starve for identity. But swami can make it possible for getting an noble prize. we devotees itself serve as nobel prize. I too believe that swami alone is the person who has more lovers than any creature n this world. forgive me if anytings wrong ---------- sai hruday <hrudaysai Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:16am Re: [saibabanews] Noble Prize-why not Swami? hrudaysai Dear all, I feel sorry to see mail in support for the nomination of our beloved Swami for the Nobel Prize. Swami does all his service work only for the sole purpose of the love that He has towards humanity and no other recognition. This being so, the love that is reciprocated from His devotees is more than any Nobel Prize for Him. This apart, in many foreign countries there is a lot of anti-Swami campaign activities happening due to several reasons that devotees are well aware of. Therefore, I do not think the nomination will even reach the base levels. Regards, Hruday Sai ---------- Soumendra Bhattacharjee <soumendra_toronto Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:07pm Noble Prize- ......please dont ever raise that topic Sai Ram Brother's and Sister's , Thank you for all your response's it was out pouring with love and devotion towards Swami- simply great - thanks a lot-I am overwhelmed - what more to say- It went that extent someone mentioned please dont ever raise that topic again( Brother with folded arms I do naamaste to you) another mentioned very sarcastically she was surprised that question came up in the forum-- I know the answer the same answer which so lovingly you all summed up- "Swami is God". Same answer which we got from our group when negative publicity about Swami was televised in North America - answer was same "Swami is God we dont have to worry"- Great very good, but why I brought this topic I myself dont know, maybe sudden ouburst after reading the newspaper - anyway now the point is -worth mentioning here, when this negative publicity was telecast and CBC TV ( Canada) was trying to retelecast the programme(upon public demand) this person who is from our Sai group and from North America did a stupendous task - you know what? he personally outlined all about Swami's mission,Institution,His hospitals,His students ,His organisation and his million and million's devotees all over the world, and this was handed to the Prime minister of Canada(Paul Martin) and then to CBC TV News director- now the outcome they all unnaimously made decision, that a person who is a Universal teacher how this can be televised to the public ,where negativity is been highlighted right throughout the documentary- it was stop right away - ( this person was behind all this drama, and he just couldn't come in the forefront as he went above and beyond where he didn't take any official permission(Sai org)- imagine he did his part but had to go underground)- Yes Yes Yes - He is God all Supreme so what ever is hurled to Him our response will be "He is God"- if He does good for the mankind( water projects ,Hospital and more) oh - " He is God " - He doesn't want any publicity so please dont bother do your part well " dont think about Noble Prize do noble deeds- yes this will be our response- if you want your feelings to be expressed you become untouchables- yes you are shunned and been shut up with - how dare you raise the topic------- May Swami Bless you all - and - yes may you all have eternal happiness. 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