Guest guest Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 With Pranams at the Lotus Feet of Our Beloved Bhagwan During His Divine Discourse yesterday 7th Oct, Swamy was refering to the episode of Lord Krishna's swarga arohan. Mentioning the completion of Krishna Avatar swamy started sobbing. Again continuing the incidents from epic Mahabharata Swamy refered to the end of Kunti Devi .KuntiDevi renounced Her Body immediately on hearing the news of Krishna's Swarga Arohan. Narrating this Swamy again started sobbing. There must deep significance in this incident. Sairam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Why our Beloved Bhagavan Baba cried ? it pained me so much- Swami never cried before, even when His mom died (Mother Eswarramma ) never did he stop His darshan nor when Kasturi or His student Radhakrishnan or Dr Gokak died- what must be the reason as it is very painful to hear, and how to say as I had a dream last week where I saw rockets and missiles targetted towards Swami who is seated in a chair and then other stuff which I dont remember- Nothing can happen to Swami as He himself said that His is" His icchaa Mrituu"(ony if He wills to die). I am so used to hear and see His majestic glory - it is so painful- Please shed some light as there must be some significance as my sister said if Bhagawan cries then that is not a good sign for mother earth. Sai Ram Soumendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Krishnan T V <crishnantv Sun Oct 9, 2005 10:54pm Re: [saibabanews] Re: Bhagwan Sobs Sairam, with most humble Salutations at the Divine Lotus Feet, dear brother Soumendraji, As you rightly said, Swamy as we know hasnt cried . As viewed by an elderly Saidevotee sister at Prashanthinilayam, Swamy cried , probably to remove the Karmic ill efects affecting this universe. I also was choked with emotions. Even now when i am typing these words i feel tears . Bhagwan wants to elevate all of us. I again recollect Swamy's words of 60's "Fish cannot Gauge the the sky Grass can grasp only Grass." my dear brother saifamily, Its difficult to fathom Bhagwan by reasoning . with prayers and Namaskars at His divine Lotus Feet Sairam Krishnan ---------- sheela krishnamurthy <sheela1959 Mon Oct 10, 2005 0:02am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Bhagwan Sobs Sairam, Is there any connection with the recent earthquack in himachal pradesh?... I feel really heavy hearted after heard this news.... sairam. ---------- sudesh johar <lookfeelgood2004 Mon Oct 10, 2005 0:26am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Bhagwan Sobs my dear sai brothers and sisters, All Glories to our dear Sai Maa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes, it definitely hurt me also to learn that my swami cried while mentioning about Krishna leaving the earth planet and also while talking about queen kunti leaving her body. i agree with bros. and siss. that theres a reason(meaning) behind this . i can understand about queen kunti cause she is among one of the greatest devotees of krishna and His aunt at the same time. but my limited knowledge does not hv the answer for the rest of it. Mere Priye Sai Nath, can u pls enlighten us all yourself with the secret knowledge lying behind it all. we r waiting 4 a response fm you. My dear Sai Ma, please forgive us for giving you so many bundles of burden of ours. It must be very getting too much 4 you. Even though you always say very kindly that bring your tears and problems to me , i will take care of them. meri Maa, we r trying our best very consciously in improving ourselves at every breath we take so please have a hope on us. with your guidance we will get there. Please maa, what you recently in my dream was very encouraging and inspiring for me and gave me , once again,an assurance and hope that theres an opening at the end of the tunnel we are in at present. Lets all pray to Our beloved Maa to enlighten us all on shedding of tears, so invaluable precious pearls. with all the prayers and love sudesh ---------- Meenakshi Chintapalli <mkchintapalli Mon Oct 10, 2005 0:27am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Bhagwan Sobs Sai Ram All, Why does Bhagawan shed tears???? It is because of theself destruction that he is watching inspite of his presence and inspite of his teachings. Bhagawan will walk when we the devotees are dharmic. How can we be dhaarmic, as long as we parrot what Bhagawan teaches, and forget the teachings in practical application????. So, every individual has to go within, be silent and practice what Swami is teaching to the core. Adherence to Truth and Dharma will hurt the individual, as the individual will be eliminated in the social circle. Then the human mind takes over the action, instead of divine dharma dictating the action. Man is a socila animal whom god trusted to protect and balance his inner nature as well as the nature and environment. For example, people come to Swami or any Guru or faith system, still entertain weakness in interpersonal relation ships, weakness on women ( besides the individual's wife), free trade of girls/women, illegitimate relationships, back biting and stabbing, family feuds, service for recognition and power, jealousy and prevention of progression of collective work, throwing stumbling blocks to good work, territorial fights, turf battles and name calling. The height of Spirituality is absolute internal and external silence. Why are teh five elements agnry? What are the 5 elements besides Swami??? The angry Tsunaami, Himalayan Earth Quake, Floods and Fire everywhere!!!! Possibly Swami knows what is the next plan in the cosmic world. He loves his creation, the good, Bad and The Ugly. The world that crucified Christ has gotten much worse in it's dealings. This pains Swami more than anything else, as his devotees are suffering. Not everybody who comes to Swami is his devotee. Swami had said that he has very few devotees and he knows who they are. I will be cavalier enough to bring about open discussion, if every body can take a vow and say that they are his devotees and place Swami's teachings above anything in life and live his teachings??? There are dedicated sevaks of Swami. For the majority Bhajans appeal for their internal peace or gives them importance and they like to enjoy bhajan singing. But when it comes to dedication in all three wings of teh organizationa and time commitment for the life and works of Bhagwan, the weekends get tied up with personal or professional work. In reality people can make the time for Swami's work. There are soem godly people in the organization but compared to the vastness of teh organization, the number is relatively small. Why is Swami sobbing??? He knows that Human ADHARMA is at it's peak inspite of his presence. He had come to change us and he realizes taht we are unchangeable. HE taught us that in KALIYUGA , Dharmam is limping on 1 foot. Now we are so adharmic that OUR SWAMI who is none other than VEDA PURUSHA and DHARMA MOORTI is showing that the DHARMA is being pushed by sages and saints and is lost. Sorry if I am too harsh. I keep these feelings to myself, but I am tempted to bring out the self audit scales of our Human behavior, teh so called the SAI DEVOTEES GLOBALLY. Sai RAm Meena Chintapalli ---------- "Trusha Bhaga" <tbhaga Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:02am RE: [saibabanews] Bhagwan Sobs Sai ram Does anyone have the discourse available in reference to our Beloved Lord crying? Thanking you HUMBLE SERVANT OF SAI TRUSHA "FAITH SEES THE INVISIBLE BELIEVES THE INCREDIBLE RECEIVES THE IMPOSSIBLE." ---------- ravi dodain <avishni Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:37am Re: [saibabanews] Bhagwan Sobs sai ram, please anybody explain me why swami was sobing. i am so restless to hear that swami was sobbing. sai ram. ---------- "Trusha Bhaga" <tbhaga Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:23am Swami cries Aum sai ram to all Could anyone please tell me why Swami cried and if anyone has the discourse that Swami gave when he cried could you please mail it to me. Thanking you for your assistance YOURS IN SAI SERVICE TRUSHA "LIFE IS NOT A PROCESS OF DISCOVERY, BUT A PROCESS OF CREATION" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Dears in Journey-to-SAI ; Om Sai Ram !!! My friends from Bhilwara were also present on this occasion in the Hall. They heard SWAMI first time. They also informed it to me over phone. They also shared this with other residents of Puttaparthi and mentioned the Discourse as " NEVER BEFORE ". The Sai Kulwant Hall was full to the capacity and according to them, all present in the hall were having tears in their eyes. Can senior members on this forum may elaborate it in detail. IT IS NOT A MERE ONE ANOTHER LEELA OF SWAMI. IT MUST BE HAVING SOME SIGNIFICANCES. Sai Ram RK MODI PRASHANTI TEXTILE CORPORATION D-43, BHILWARA TEXTILE MARKET P.O. BHILWARA- RAJASTHAN INDIA- 311001 PHONE : +91 1482 246375 FAX : +91 1482 247150 MOBILE: +91 98290 45135 E-MAIL : saimodi Skype id: saimodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 happens against Swamy's will. Every thing happens according to his divine will. May be Sai Maa is giving us a hint about some thing through her sobbing. Lord Siva's duty is Layam. May be Mother Shakthi cannot bear the suffering of her children. Every where in the world we see natural calamities and thousands of beings are taken over my the Lord. At the time of Tsunami, Swamy told that more will come, be prepared. There is certainly some message Swamy wants to convey through his sobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 With most humble Salutations at the Divine Lotus Feet of Our Beloved Sai, my dear sister in Sai Dr Meenaji, Sudeshji, Sheela, and other Sai brethren, Dr Meenaji's words struck me like the powerful spears. Its so very true, some of us ( like me ) have to evolve to higher levels . There is lot of hypocracy , ( or shall i say ignorance ? ) around . Lot of churning and cleansing required ( again its about me ). Coming back, to Avtar remembering about His previous Avtar, or / and shedding tears- Lord Rama cried remembering Seetha Devi during those years in the forest, when Ravana took away Seetha devi. Again , in the war zone, when Laxmana was struck dumb by the arrow of Indrajit, son of Ravana, and lying without breath, Lord Rama was very much moved. He started sobbing like a child taking Laxmana's head on His lap. Lord Rama was loud in His sadness saying How will i answer mother Sumitra, or Laxmana's wife Oormila who was making Sacrifice of the highest order. How will i justify this. So saying he cried aloud- as per SageValmiki . Rama Avatar was like our Bhagwan - Human in His Divinity and yet Divine in His Humanity. About Avtar remembering and reacting to previous avtaric episode- let me say this from Lord Krishna's childhood. Oneday Sage Narada comes to Gokulam to have the Darshan sparshan and Sambhashan with the Lord incarnate , the child Krishna . Mother Yasoda receives the Sage with reverence. Soon there is a small gathering. So the Sage Narada gives a Divine Discourse about Ramayana to the Gokulam children and family. The Discourse reaches the stage when Ravana abducts Seetha Devi. Suddenly the Child Krishna gets up and in fury and shouts - Laxmana, C'mon .... pick up my Gandheeva the child breathes heavily and the eyes have become red with anger. Yasoda comes rushing not knowing what has happened The sage Narada , a Chiranjeevi, understood the situation quickly and reacted calmly . My beloved child " Krishna", the sage gently prayed , this is your next avatar you have completed your Rama avatar. Please , i pray to you to come back . So saying , the sage reminded the Child Krishna of the connection and brought about calmness. Avtars remembering the previous avtars are not new . Bhagwan has on so many occasions reminded His Shirdi Devotees about the past episodes- The life of Pedda Pottu , who had the Divine Blessings to Live with Shirdi Sai and Parthi Baba- is a classic example. Bhagwan reveals many matters to the Students. which are not not disclosed so far. This much is for sure - when we shed a tear for HIm He wipes away hundreds from us . When He shed tears what should we do. We can pray more intensely, resolve to be cleaner within& without, never hurt others, be of Service to society . with prostrations at the Divine Lotus Feet with Salutations to my Beloved Sai family, ever yours in Sai Krishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 kodi pranams at the lotus feet of Beloved Bhagwan Baba. this is not the first time we heard of Swamy crying. in Rama avatar, when dasaratha died Swamy cried, when Rama lost Seethadevi He cried wandering and searching in the forests, when laxmana fainted in the yudhabhoomi Rama lamented.... in Krishna avatar when Swamy saw kuchela coming tears rolled down from the kamalanetram...in the childhood of Krishna, totally immersed in the love of gopikas and the people of nandhigram Swamy was very happy moving among them and playing with his friends and gopis..there came Naradamuni to remind the Divine of His purpose of the Avatar (as if Swamy forgot) Krishna was testing the urge of devas who sent Naradamuni.. so attributing reasons, i feel is meaningless cannt be comprehended by the human mind... i feel we devotees of Swamy, at this time keep our heart pure which only gives happiness to Our Lord we will live in love, Help Ever and Hurt Never Sairam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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