Guest guest Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 I receive sometimes appeals of different kinds from members and readers. They are often messages saturated with suffering or dealing with urgent matters. They are not specifically requests for prayers, but calls for urgent help in different fields: medical, financial, etc. Anyone may face trials and tribulations in the life. These appeals cannot be ignored. In order to help these brothers and sisters in need, a special section in the group has been created in which the appeals will be published to make them available for the consideration of the members. A note will be sent to the group when an appeal is added to the list. Although will be only published the deserving requests, since it is impossible to verify and investigate every message received, each member, listening to his own conscience, will decide in every case what is the right thing to do. Address: Appeals and requests for help Group Home Page - Files - Appeals and requests for help Thank you very much With Love Moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 After reading brother kumudu ratnayake's email, i felt so bad because i was also a student facing the ordeals of student life not so long ago here in the US. But now by Swami's grace i have an excellent job here in CA. I think we all shud do something for people asking for monetary help. We can start some type of a fund to which willing members contribute every month, say $10. I am sure there will be many well to do devotees here in the US or any other foreign country who will be willing to contribute on a monthly basis. There will be different levels of members like Platinum, Gold and Silver members depending on the amount of contribution. We can then appoint a committee to manage those funds and lend money to deserving persons anywhere in the world using our strong network of sai devotees in every corner of the world. Swami says that to progress spiritually, u shud first have a strong and healthy body and a stable, peaceful mind. Today 50% of the problems of mankind have their roots in the lack of money. We will be doing a great service to mankind by giving them food to eat and a stable and peaceful mind which will help them to progress spiritually. Any supporters/ideas ? regards, Arvind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 anju777 Tue Aug 2, 2005 6:38pm Re: [saibabanews] Re: Appeals and requests for help - New section in the group SAI RAM, I think this is a good suggestion ,and if all agree,I am ready to give every month $10.00. SAI RAM TO ALL. anju ---------- dvs prasad <dvs_prasad2001 Wed Aug 3, 2005 0:23am Appeals and requests for help - New section in the group dear arvind, ur idea is welcoming. the fact here is how to organize the funds & how to assess the need is also the another question. b'cause, there may be some fraud people in disguise. the good idea may turn in to a sleepless night. think before act twice or thrice. u can seek any further assistance in this regard with best wishes dvs prasad ---------- "me" <galaxyandromeda22 Wed Aug 3, 2005 3:55am sairam Moderator Sairam to all devotees brothers and sisters a very timely and well thought of injunction to the site thank you Moderator any help regarding health and education, sai human values and matters which deal with understanding how to address and be with the atma in practical terms may be addressed to yours sincerely....i have over 30 years in this field and know of skills and techniques in pranic healing spiritual healing, chakral balance and how to govern and address the various ethereal levels in relation to your gunas...music, dance and the recitation of slokas have also got a direct connection and are in fact very effective methods of making the governance easy and permanent thanks for reading the post yours in seva and in respect as atma nayanika romanyuk sairam ---------- vijay laxmi <ranawatvl65 Wed Aug 3, 2005 6:03am Re: [saibabanews] Appeals and requests for help - New section in the group Sairam , This is the wiser thing to publish a separate group for the appeal and request. We are in the materialistic world some brother and sister are some time in need of some help other than the prayer. As swami himself says first bhojan than bhajan. empty stomach one cannot think of GOD. we are not talking about the luxeries but some minimum living is required for every sai family. If we will come forward little bit than only we can say we are sai family. We annot sserve every one atleast we can think to serve from our own resources to some one. This we have to decide how one sai brother can help to other.Hope swami will guide us in this also. Sairam Vijaya saibabanews, Arvind Sherigar <arvind1180> wrote: > Dear Sai Family, > After reading brother kumudu ratnayake's email, i felt so bad because i was also a student facing the ordeals of student life not so long ago here in the US. ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 I am back from Puttaparti and we had wonderful time and darsan of Bhagawan. He is withdrawing from the crowds. I totlly concur that we have a world that is controlled by materialism and consumerism. We are not an organization thta is for collecting funds but yet we need money fro spontanoeus seva commitments when the need arises. Swami is going to guide through the inherent love in the heart of his devotee. What comes to my mind is, rising to the occassion when a small child who is poor needs a heart surgery and it can be sponsored at Puttaparti or at Bangalore facilities and so much can be donated by the Global Prayer group as a united service. It can be a poor person requiring Eye suregery and can be sponsored. It can eb Anti malarials and mosquito nets for teh third world countries and it can be sponsored. I shyed away from recommending this in the previous e- mail on my suggestions on the Social Welfare and Medical activities of the Global Prayer Group. I want you all to think about it. We have a secular Non Profit Organizarion, that is dedicated for Health, Education and Social Welfare. It is The Society For Assistance International and it's web site is www.saicdp.org. Bhagawan blessed this Organizarion in 1998 and called it as an organization whose work automatically becomes the work of SAI. We have a branch in Puttaparti also. People do contribute through this organization for various causes and all the money, 100 % goes to charitable causes. It is a 501C-3 non profit and we send receipts. We do not have large administrative red tape as all the officers are volunteers for the charitable causes. I do the work of Educare under the banner of SAI Educare Programs. I am ready to train manypeople to do the SAI Educare PArenting Courses, Lesson Plan Development and Child Care tips on Behavioral management. Please visit the web site www.uth.edu/tececds/. Goes to the search, trainer and scroll to Meena Chintapalli and click on to register for the course. Anywhere in USA I can give this course and I can give CEU to the participants. Swami gave me this as a very indepenndent Seva opportunity and Bhagawan has been guiding me all the way in this venture. Every workshop that I do he gets the report. So far it has been possible. Pleaase email me or contact me personally if you have any concerns and questions. I learnt inb this visit that Swami is going to stand by all good work that is God's work In Love for SAI Seva Meena Chintapalli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Sai Ram, The last point in the Nine-Point Code of Conduct states: 9. Practicing placing a ceiling on desires "consciously and continuously striving to eliminate the tendency to waste time, money, food, and energy" and utilizing the savings for service of mankind. To help people in need who appeal to us is a duty, not charity. It is an excellent suggestion by Arvind that we try to do what we can monetarily to help people in their hour of need. Of course, we will need to come up with a well-planned way for members to contribute from various corners of the world. Maybe we can consider services like PayPal (http://www.paypal.com/)? just a suggestion. We will have to discuss the ramifications of any method in more depth before we adopt anything. I personally would be grateful for an opportunity to contribute whatever little I can. "Moreover you should not only practise yourself but teach others also about this ceiling on desires. Though Naaraayana is in everyone, the one in the poor people is referred to as "Dharidhra Naaraayana". When this Naaraayana begs for food, you refuse to give him food while you offer food to another person who is already well-fed. You place before God's pictures a lot of food of rich variety as 'Naivedhyam' (offering). You do this because you know very well that this is coming back to you. So, here too it is 'Swaartham' (self-interest) and not 'Thyaagam' (sacrifice) The amrithathwa (immortality) or Moksha (Liberation) will come out of thyaagam." -Baba Regards, Mangala > saibabanews, Arvind Sherigar > <arvind1180> wrote: > > Dear Sai Family, > > After reading brother kumudu ratnayake's email, i felt so bad > because i was also a student facing the ordeals of student life not > so long ago here in the US. ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 nice idea aravind sairam but we must take care that ego problem will not rise between us and be in a constant thinking that it is our swami's work. meanwhile the aid will not be limited to US itself but to be extended countries like India, Srilanka and wherever be, there is a craving for money for a genuine cause. sairam ganesh loka samastha sukhino bhavanthu Arvind Sherigar <arvind1180 wrote: Dear Sai Family, After reading brother kumudu ratnayake's email, i felt so bad because i was also a student facing the ordeals of student life not so long ago here in the US. ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Yes, i think brother prasad is right in stating that there will be many fraud people trying to take advantage of us. But this should not hinder our goal to help deserving people. By people i mean the general masses. Irrespective of whether a person is a Sai devotee or not, we shud help them. It is our dharma. Now about the fraud problem. There are solutions to every problem This can be one of them. First of all we need a list of Sai devotees, their names, addresses, and misc information. Here is how this idea works. For example, if someone in New Jersey needs help, then we find some devotees residing in New Jersey from the list we have(they shud voluntarily sign up for this service), and then tell them to go to the house of the person needing help and meet him/her personally. They shud follow some guidelines to verify the authenticity of the persons appeal, and then shud inform the central fund members. Then the money in the form of a check/draft can be sent to the person. This is just one of the solution. Do u guys have any ideas ? We shud be ready to do anything to make this idea a success.(I am sorry for the 'We'. 'We' am not doing, but Swami is doing through us) Just imagine, if this idea becomes a success , then people will truly know who is Swami and his mission, through his devotees(i.e us). I think this will help us in our Sadhana also. First of all this will remove our attachment to 'our' money which is actually God's gift. Second, it will give us a chance to show our love to all people irrespective of caste, creed, etc. Thirdly, it will encourage other people to contribute and become voluntary seva members in this mission of Sai. How about starting a website with these ideas ? Thanks and regards, Sairam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Sai Ram All , I think Sister Menakshi idea is great- as this is already approved by Swami and we can do in a mammoth way. We need all our brother's and Sister's to think about this project. To me it is a unique project. Sai Ram Regards Soumendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Sai Ram Every one I too would lilke to help in whatever small amount I am able to donate - as we may be aware, all the money comes from Swami and is HIS.....and we must try and see that every one's stomach is filled. It is our Dharma to help in whatever way we can be it financial/prayer/etc. jai sai ram monica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Great!! I am ready to contribute any little amount i can if others are going to benefit. Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 IT is said that the Victory begins at home , in own our house , for all of us netsaidevotees our home is this marvellous group, thank you to our webmaster, his service and his help to make seva , to help us in engage our minds in the name of sri Sathya Sai is inmesurable, and this new seva in this new section Appeals and requests for help - New section in the group is great, why ... because we are allways talking about to help the needy, to help the poor... .. ... , but now this kid is asking directly us to help him , is our duty to help him, allways when we can of course , i shall help but please find the right way and I shall help ., AND YES MY DEAR FAMILY I PRAYED TODAY THURSDAY 4TH AUGUST AND THIS WAS GREAT DEARS I PRAYED FOR MANY FAMILIARS WHOM ARE OLD A AND SICK, HERE IN MADRID TOO AND "Alberto López" shirdi54 .mx have writen me asking me to visit his mother whom is in madrid alone in all this country of spain,my dear Alberto , I am going to visit, to write and ,to give some vibhuti to your mother(,querido Alberto he recibido tu e=mail ire a visitar ,a tu madre l la escribire e=mails y le dare vibhuti, ya te contare hermano mio no te preocupes, hoy he orado por ella ) NOW WHEN I PRAYED WITH THE GROUP MY PRAYERS ARE MORE MORE...SWEETS THANK YOU TO ALL THE GROUP WITH SAI LOVE: sairamdoris (AT) (DOT) es "...always look at the positive side of things... " sri sathya sai sairamdoris (AT) (DOT) es Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Fraud can be prevented with good and credible organizations. that is why we stopped taking telephone appeals but have taken all our charitable work through SAI. We can form an internationsl THE SAI GLOBAL PRAYER GROUP TRUST AND pick some CA's and LAwyers from the group to oversee the designated distribution of funds in Health, Education and Social Welfare. If Million people on line decide to donate 10 dollars each fro teh cause every year, the Global SAI Prayer group can do a lot of service. If the same million people across the globe contribute 120 dollars per year a lot more can be accomplished globally, like the Maharaashtra seva dal 's work, Globally. In HIS service with Love Meena Chintapalli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 lyonsdavid7 Thu Aug 4, 2005 5:02am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Appeals and requests for help - New section in the group Sai Ram Monica, You can relie on my prayers each and every day. Love and light. David. ---------- RAM KUSHWAHA <kushwaharam Thu Aug 4, 2005 6:56am Re: SPECIAL GROUP-HELP REQUEST-LETUS MOVE FORWARD Sai Ram , dearest brothers and sisters of this group ! I may also join hands for this noble cause.Just move ahead..and kindly form a global monitering commitee from the official list of sathya sai organisation who will take decision under the blissful guidance of bhagwan baba. jai sai ram kushwaha R.S New Delhi - INDIA ---------- Meenakshi Chintapalli <mkchintapalli Thu Aug 4, 2005 7:06am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Appeals and requests for help - New section in the group Sai Ram to all of you, With most humble pranaams to Swami and with the due respect and reverence for the reason of his AVATAARHOOD, I offered myself at the Lotus Feet Openly. THE S.A.I. can establish with the same non profit status a SAI GLOBAL PRAYER TRUST, that will create a Board with a couple of Lawyers, Educators, Doctors and Chartered Accountants. Again with Love for Bhagawan's existence in the human form and with reverence for his teachings, through Unity, Love and focus on taking Swami's teachings into life apllication scenarios, this offering was made. We can take Swami's teachings into Public Schools, by creating Door Prizes for listening to parenting education based on the principles of Swami's teachings. We can do medical seva through the Public schools, globally, so that Swami can be felt though our giving, help, medicines and service. We can help the ctaract surgery to heart surgery or medicines for the villagers in India or other Third World Countries. Through the Mother Eswaraamma Trust Project we can help support the cause to build self help among battered and destitute women. We can go globally do screening for HIV ( rampant in India by the way ) and raise the morality of the people through Bhagawan's teachings. We can do a lot of seva when people come together with same focus, trust and ris eto the appeals of the neddy people. In all of these endeavors, we know many volunteers are working and we can establish a net work in each country or state or city, through SSO. We can supplemnt the efforts of various samithis across the globe to enhance their basic service projects. If 10 million people contribute a dollar each per month a lot can be accomplished. At the same token, if 1 million people give 10 dollars imagine what can be done!!!! This is why Bhagwan says that " Bharat has no Poverty". I want to make it very clear that there are many people who are running Non profit organizations in their local areas or samithis. But I volunteered with the confidence that Bhagwan had blessed SAI as the Organization, whose work will automatically become SAI's work. This is not a plea to collect funds. We can all openly brain storm and make this zeal of giving become a reality in Helath, Education and Social Welfare. I wonder why Swami is inspiring all of us. I have complete faith and with 100% surrender that Swami is inspiring all of us. In his service with love and respect Meena Chintapalli ---------- Anita Sakthi <nit552000 Thu Aug 4, 2005 11:51am Re: Appeals and requests for help - new section group Sairam Sai Family, This is a great opportunity for all of us to be indulged in this seva. We can contribute whatever we can from where we are. I am ready to give what I can.Just let me know how I can be of help and service to set up this mission of seva to all. Love all Serve all Anita Sakthi ---------- sangeeta sharma <sangeeta65 Thu Aug 4, 2005 0:01pm Re: [saibabanews] Re: Appeals and requests for help - New section in the group om sai ram kindly tell us the mode of donation,address etc. sai ram ---------- nishma agarwal <sainishma Thu Aug 4, 2005 2:24pm Re: [saibabanews] Re: Appeals and requests for help - New section in the group Sairam. While I applaud these love filled thoughts from eager brothers & sisters, please let us think this through carefully. While it may be easy to appoint CAs & Lawyers to manage this Trust, more important is that we identify the 'needs' properly and ensure that the money is going to the 'Right' causes. This is NOT comparable to the Sevadals work in Maharashtra as responding to the emergency following a natural devastating tragedy in Mumbai is quite different to what we plan to do here in this group. Also we need to ensure that this is fully in line with the SSSSO Prashanti & International protocol. May Swami bless this wonderful group! love in Sai, Nishma ---------- Arvind Sherigar <arvind1180 Thu Aug 4, 2005 3:02pm Re: [saibabanews] Re: Appeals and requests for help - New section in the group Sairam all, I think Sister Meenakshi's idea is an excellent one and we shud all seriously consider starting the Sai Global prayer group trust. We can launch a website with the ideas. But first we need a list of people from this group who can help in setting this up. We will also need some details like level of education, profession, current home address, etc. We need to push this idea and make it a success. regards, Arvind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Let us all unite for this noble project- Brother Arvind also agreed to this project and now our next move would be for final approval. We can wait for 7 or 10 days where we all can remind our Sai group members each day for final approval(also briefing about the plan). What do you all think? Sai Ram Soumendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Sai Ram I am very happy to serve via this way and happily willing to do this contribution of $10 or more. As this is going to be an INTERNATIONS trust, this would definitely attract many people around the world and thus should be able to do numerous service to the 3rd World Countries. I am a Chartered Accountant residing in Sydney currently. If there is any other service I could undertake for this noble service, please let me know. With love Sai Sister Shivathmika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Sairam sister Meena, The suggestion to form THE SAI GLOBAL PRAYER GROUP TRUST is excellant .Lets do our best for the deserving people.We may need to creat a database of our SPG. Sairam Beena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Sai Ram , dear brother & Sisters ! This is really a very very necessary noble cause , which should be performed any how by the grace of bhagwan baba. Let us move ahead.... All the members of this group are requested to please provide their complete address so that a regional group might be formed further.. We all should pray bhagwan baba for the same..... JAI SAI RAM kushwaha New Delhi-India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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