Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 I am Woman A young woman's journey in surrender by Yamini Sharma ,Seattle, Washington Let's be "real" for a moment. Nowadays as a woman, I am being taught and shaped by all aspects of society, whether it be marketing, advertising, magazines, television, movies, and the people I encounter. These influences force me to be independent and ambitious, and to suppress the slightest bit of emotion. Ultimately, according to society, being a woman today is to live in a state of confidence in my pursuit of so called "happiness". This is frightening! Not only does it completely oppose and challenge Swami's teachings, it also sets me up for long-term failure. Several years ago, I was ready to conquer the world by being at the forefront of the medical field. I was not about to be "belittled" into being a simple housewife. I believed in the modern phrase, "I am woman, hear me roar." Like most females in society who are told not to be timid, shy or quiet, as this will reveal a weakness, I was bombarded with such notions throughout my adolescent years. Then came the bombshell from Swami Himself - on the very day of my engagement, as my family sat in the famed interview room, "No more studies (to be a doctor); he is your responsibility," uttered the Lord of the universe pointing to my future husband! I thought I misheard. My parents also thought they misheard. What to do? Well, the obvious was to ask Swami. So, the very next day when the opportunity arose during that actual ceremony I asked, "Swami, what about my studies in medicine?" The reply was swift and confident, "There is no question of studies now; Your duty is towards him." Swami explained to me, my husband and our families the qualities of a woman. First, He said "Grihalakshmi" a woman is the Lakshmi of the house, the pillar without which the family has no foundation to progress or operate. Next, "Ardhangi" which is the better part of the husband that creates balance and harmony in the home. "Dharampatni" is the righteous wife who confers the sense of morality, ethics and right conduct to the family, especially children. Finally, "Illalu" is the mistress of the home, the Shakti that gives power to all who reside in the home. It took me many years to digest, contemplate and realize the life saving statements Swami directed me to follow. Under no circumstances does Swami disagree with women being educated. Some may recall when Swami initiated the educational institutions He constructed the girls college in Anatapur first. He says, "It is not my view that women should not get educated. They should have education. You may also take up jobs. But you should live up to the obligations and glory of womanhood." (S.S. Dec 1966, p.333) As a married woman, the greatest lessons have come in learning about myself - as an extension of God. It is also learning to be one half of my husband and knowing how to balance my wants with those of another. What lessons can I share in a few words? As Swami says, "First Be, then Do, then Tell." I have learned that who I am is defined by Love, not by secular society's definition of a woman. I have learned the inherent value that even separates me from my husband, which is unconditional Love. Swami often reminds us that when a child is ill, the father will take the temperature and console the offspring. But it is the mother who will stay up all night and share the pain of that child. Love is the natural aspect of a woman. Today, I have been blessed with two children, a husband with many tasks and a very busy household. Indeed, I AM woman, hear me roar in the spiritual sense as I am a female who is grounded in herself, her role and her duties. It is a tough balance-with less income but greater mothering. My reward with my children is seeing them grow up to be pillars of society whose foundation consists of Sai ideals rather than confusing television values. Yes, all this requires practice but the best is yet to come when we as woman aspire to be who we truly are - reflections of Swami! I am woman, I thank you Sai! SYAN 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Aum Sai Ram Dear Sai Sisters (and Brothers, too) Thank you for bringing this topic up, and I pray you would like to discuss this difficult teaching of Swami's on the position of women as mothers and wives. It has been sometimes hard for me to accept Swami's teachings on women though I have made progress in this regard. I understand that righteousness, morality and service to the family are as hard as studying medicine and just as praiseworthy, or even more so. Surrendering to God is the hardest thing anybody could ever do, and doing so through righteousness and seva to the family is as worthy as any other spiritual path. I also understand that if society valued mothers at least as much as we value professionals we probably would not have to discuss this topic. But Swami has also said women should accept what our husbands say and if we don't agree we should pray, pray, pray. While this is easy to comprehend in hypothetical or perfect situations, when I think of the thousands of girls and women all over the world who are fed less, educated less and given less hospital care, etc than the boys and men of their communities just because they are females (not to mention that they suffer more from physical and emotional violence, etc), it is very hard for me to accept and understand. For these women not to stand up for their rights (and the rights of their daughters and mothers, etc) would probably make things worse? Or is it perhaps that I don't understand the real force of faith and prayer? Or perhaps it is a teaching that Swami intends for the future, when the worse of the Kali Yuga is over? Dear Sai family, thank you for your answers and comments and I look forward to hearing from you. With light and love, Gueza saibabanews [saibabanews] On Behalf Of sherry jagdeoThursday, 5 May 2005 7:45 AMsaibabanewsSubject: [saibabanews] A young woman's journey in surrender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Sai Ram Swami's opinions are not new for Asians as they were brought up with that kind of thing in the mind. So its not shocking for us. But, at the same time it has exceeded in certain males mind and thus lead to a male chauvinism. That's the bad thing and Swami again try to remove it through his teachings. See whatever said and done female is a female. Though now females have gone into each and everything that man does, the man simply couldn't do one thing that woman does; giving a birth to a child. Mothers always have had a special place. Its said "Mathro devo bava, pithuru devo bava, guru devo bava and aththi devo bava" Means, first equal status with God is given to "Mother", then "father", "teacher" and "guest". In all the animal kingdom, its only the female has this ability. Why females started to work is is because of economic situation and they needed more money to support the family. That's alright and its accepted by Swami as the Sai sister noted in her e-mail. But, think of something when you make the dolls at home how much care you give. You need to get the correct shape, size, etc. Same for everything, we need perfections in all the jobs. They say attention to detail. All this attention we are giving for inanimate things. But a child is a human who has born at the highest level of spiritual path to live his life and to get the liberation. Shouldn't they be molded correctly with all the attention?? They basically need the love and support of the family. I am in align with Swami's opinion of mother's role. If your question is about the role of Mother or Doctor ??? Answer depends on the each woman's destiny. For example if woman can I have a child and if she goes for it, the her priority should be in molding the child in the correct direction. Even if that woman is a famous doctor, this comes first. If its a lady who can't have a child (due to any reason) then her duty should be to serve other children. Take the case of Kalpana Savla the best Astronaut from NASA. How many people talks about her now? Almost forgotten? But "Mother Theresa" She was not married so she lost the chance of being a mother to her own children. But she was a mother for many and in the hearts of all!! Who is the best?? Saratha Devi wife Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, as the husband took celibacy she couldn't have any children. But she was called as mother by all the devotees and followers of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. Ladies are especial as they are more compassionate and loving than males. Why? Its a pre-arrangement by God as that is necessary to bringing up the children. We have different cultures, languages, etc. but allover the world everything is referred to as "mother tongue", "mother land", etc. Why? Because only mothers have the best gift in the world. You say "Happy Eswaramba Day" Why? She was not a doctor, or a famous person. She simply gave birth to a child and became a mother. Society's opinions changed and changing over the period. So, we need not pay and heed to them. Also, accepting husband's words should not taken very literally. Ex: if husband ask you to have drug, you are not suppose to say yes. That's not what Swami says. What he means is there can be only one head in a family(similar to a chairman). One should make the decisions with the consent of the other - wife(director). This is necessary for the family (company) to go smoothly in the correct path. Then you could ask the question why Man be the Chairman? Because "Man" is included in "Woman" Woman is all pervasive. She is the highest source of energy. Swami Himself is "Arthanareshwar" - half Shiva(male) and half Parvathi (female). and His teachings are for all yuga and is practiced by everybody. By being a doctor you can cure a disease but can't change mind of the males or females who treats the other females in a discriminatory manner. But being a mother you can simply change all your sons attitudes and mould them in such a way that they will give respect to womanhood. Also being a mother you can change the ways of your daughters in such a way that they will uphold the dignity of womanhood. If all mother changes their daughters and sons then where is the need for the questions of rights of woman ??? Finally, I would like to emphasize on one thing. Believe in Swami and His teachings. Every thing He says is for our best. Be like a small child who looks up the face of its mother for everything. That child depends on its mother for everything. It doesn't do anything on its own. We are in the same position as that child. We need to follow our mother Sai. What She gives is for our best. I would like to remind you a small story. When Swami was walking, one of His student gave Him an expensive vase. Swami asked Him to break it. The boy didn't as it was an expensive one. Again He asked another student to do that and that boy didn't do so for the same reason. Third time he asked another boy and he without any hesitation broke that into pieces. What Swami did was he took all the pieces and made it as a vase again. If we debate on Swami's teachings is like the student who didn't break the vase thinking that its expensive. But, if we follow like the boy who broke it without any hesitation, we'll achieve the goal in the same way Swami made up the vase from the broken pieces as He is the creator of all. So, why thinking and analysing His teachings? He is the Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscience. Believe in Him and follow Him, you will be there sitting on Swami's lap forever as a child who cuddles in his mother's lap. Shivathmika Chavez, Gueza Monday, 9 May 2005 1:24 PMMathivannan, ShivaFW: [saibabanews] A young woman's journey in surrender I remember the first time I knew about Swami's opinion about mothers, etc I was pretty shocked. Now I accept it much more but I still can't accept it 100%! Perhaps when society considers being a mum as important as being a doctor then maybe my opinions will change..? I also think in the future there will be 2 kinds of women: 1) those who want to be single (or at least not have kids) and have a job, and 2) those who want to be mothers. I would love to hear other people's opinion and I would specially love hearing your own. Perhaps we should write some comments to the group..!? Gueza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Sairam. I very well understand your predicament in this subject. but, what SWAMI says has to be right. People who commit atrocities on women in certain countries, like not giving them food, healthcare and not educating them enough are real fools. They are the modern day rakshasas. They will reap the benefits for these karmas. Kali youga has still 400,000 years to go. I will say as follws - as I understand the creation and the rules. Women are created with certain duties and men are created with certain duties. This is the divine will. So, men should respect women for doing their duties and women should respect men for doing their duty. When ego comes in between, then we get into a clash.In fact, women contribute the maximum to the family and inturn to the society. Everyone should understand this fundamental reality. The child feels very happy when he/she finds the mother in the house when they return from the school. They get food at the right time. They get full emotional security. Can any father give this? Similarly, the child is very happy and secure when he/she receives the father in the evening. Can any mother give that? So, both father and mother are equally important to the child for its allround growth. Comparing a mother and father for their good qualities is not correct. Both are important. So, house wives, you are the greatest contributor to the society. I would like to discuss in this topic if any one wishes to. Sairam."Chavez, Gueza" <gchavez (AT) kcc (DOT) com> wrote: Aum Sai Ram Dear Sai Sisters (and Brothers, too) Thank you for bringing this topic up, ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Sai Ram, dear brothers and sisters. My understanding with respect to getting married and/or divorced is that this is one of those instances where one's guru should always be consulted first, if one is fortunate enough to have one. This I learned when I read the Sri Sai Satcharita, which is the famous book on the life and teachings of our Swami during his past incarnation as Sri Sai Baba of Shirdi. In the relationship between Guru and Bhakta (Devotee), the devotee is supposed to ask his or her guru's permission before engaging in some actions, among them, marriage and/or divorce. If the guru says no to marriage, the devotee should not marry. If the guru denies permission for the devotee to divorce, then the devotee should not try to obtain a divorce. Only if the guru gives his approval can the devotee marry or divorce. This is entirely the guru's choice, not the devotee's. Therefore, in the case of Diana Baskin, it was alright for her to divorce her first husband, Joel Riardon, because Swami, her Guru, gave her permission to do so. Later on, after she had been divorced, Baba Himself chose another husband for her and married them. Also, a devotee should always consult with his guru and request his permission and approval before investing his or her money and before undertaking a trip. It's also a privilege of the devotee to have the right to request from his or her guru that the guru finds the devotees' children suitable husbands and wives. Also, when it is time for the devotee to move, the devotee has the right, and should, ask that his or her guru finds him or her and family a good house to move to. These I learned reading the Sri Sai Satcharita and ever since I've always asked for Swami's permission with respect to these matters. Though sometimes the outcome may not be exactly what we wanted, we must consider the fact that our Divine Sadguru Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba knows what is best for us. If we, in our hearts, truly believe this, we shall overcome difficulties and our lives will be redeemed. With much Sai love to all my Sai sisters and brothers, Gina Saiyeled284 (AT) comcast (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 sai ram to all the ways of our beloved sai is different. His decisions are different for each individual. But whatever the decision swamy takes that is best for us. Have faith he will hold our hand and will not leave. He will hold how a mother holds. His hold is firm. SAI MATA PITA SAI BANDHU SAKHA TERE CHARANME SAI LELO KOTI PRANAM. SAI RAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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