Guide me

[Guest guest]

I would like to do meditation but i am disturbed

within 10 to 15 min . Please suggest me some steps or books or website which i

could refer. Please help me to get steps about jyothi dhyanam too.

 

sai ram

akila

[Guest guest]

Further to message from Akila seeking assistance in Meditation, I attach a

document on Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba's views of Joyti Meditation which I

downloaded recently for your attention. THis might help her. The file is too

big to copy in body of this message.

Sai Ram

Bharat Handa (UK)

Attachment: (application/octet-stream) JoytiMeditationSSS.doc [not stored]

[Guest guest]

"" <rjmisra1

Thu Apr 7, 2005 4:55pm

RE: [saibabanews] Guide me

 

Sairam,

I have found that the book " Dhyana Vahini " By Bhagwan satya Sai

Baba has helped me a lot. Do not get worried because in the

begining, distractions are normal.What you have to do is, as soon as

your mind goes astray, try bringing it back to the form of God that

you contemplate.Have patience and keep on trying. Good luck to you.

 

Jai Sairam

Raynu

 

----------

 

Jatindar Shad <egreatindia

Thu Apr 7, 2005 10:12pm

Re: [saibabanews] Guide me

 

Sai Ram Savithri,

 

What disturbs you - if it is sound - plug cotton in your ear - if it

is vision - have no other light in the room except the jyothi for

meditation - if you are physically uncomfortable - make yourself

comfortable - a comfortable atmosphere is important - seating - if

sitting in lotus position is troubling you - then practise sitting

in lotus position even when you are not doing meditation.

 

See - you have to find out what is causing your disturbance.

 

For more on this read the Dhayan Vahini by Baba.

 

It is only when you have over come the physical disturbance, that

you will be able to control the disturbance of the mind - and have a

vision of the divine with your inner eye.

 

Sai Ram - Be Happy

 

JP

 

(The SAI AT project, to comemmorate Bhagwans 80th Year of Advent,

has been launched - for details - log on to

http://www.sailopics.com)

 

----------

 

Sai Sandesh <saisandesh

Fri Apr 8, 2005 2:33am

Re: [saibabanews] Guide me

 

Dhyana vaahini is the authentical source on meditation techniques

from

GOD Himself, our Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.

 

Available on internet at:

 

http://www.vahini.org/downloads/dhyanavahini.html

 

Entire book is available on one single page here. You can simply

print

it out and make a nice handbook for reading. The book published by

SSSPBT is also very nice.

 

Swami explains various methods of meditation. The main thing He

stresses is not to expect anything out of Dhyanam. The meditation

which expects nothing as a result is called "Sathwic Dhyana" and this

is the best method of all.

 

And Swami says, concentration and "thoughtlessness" comes through

practise. Coming to the wandering mind, Swami asks us not to use

force

to prevent the mind going after worldly thoughts. Instead, leave it

away, let it wander, and do not "care" about it all. Dont worry about

it...dont give it attention....When it sees that you are no more

caring for it, it would silently come back to you.

 

Swami gives the example of a naughty child who does a lot of noise to

enrage his mother. As long as the mother gives attention to the

child,

the child's pranks will go on increasing. Once the mother stops

paying

attention to the child, he would slowly come back to the mother

silently...:-)

 

I can share with you my personal experience. I do not do meditation

but I sit and do Namasmarana. I do it for 10 minutes everday. I keep

an alarm so as to avoid being conscious about time. On the first day,

it was great. Second day...a bit less, third day still lesser. And

particularly on some days when my mood was not good, I used to get

disturbed completely.

 

BUT.....quite unknowingly, my power to concentrate is increasing.

Gradually I got used to breathing and chanting the Name repeatedly

for

10 minutes without any stop or break. My physical position has become

comfortable and I got "used" to it. Now, there is no physical

discomfiture. The body got used to sit and chant the Name.....Also,

the mental discomfiture has reduced a lot because I know where

exactly

my mind would go on wandering and where I need to stop caring about

it

and thus get it back to Swami.

 

Now, I enjoy 7-8 minutes out of 10 thoroughly with good

concentration.

Still 2 minutes left to conquer :-)...I am also thinking of

increasing

my Dhyana time to 15 minutes (the alarm I mean...If I donot use an

alarm, I would be thinking every minute..."Oh may be the ten minutes

are over"....haha.....Once you keep the alarm, you are free from time

constraints....).

 

Sister, what I can say is .... these techniques of conquering mind

cannot be read or taught. Of course, the books and experiences of

people do help in giving some pointers, but to master the mind, the

only secret is "Sadhana"...continuous unabated practise.

 

As you practise more and more, Swami will be happy with you

steadfastness and He would bless you with His Grace. And that Grace

will make EVERYTHING possible!

 

One can feel for himself/herself the growing peace in mind and

confidence as Dhayana proceeds day-by-day. Another important thing

Swami mentions in Dhyana vaahini is to do Dhyana with enthusiasm and

firm conviction in victory...I mean with complete conidence that we

would be able to conquer the mind....NOT to get discouraged if we

were

not able to do it properly on one day or the other...

 

Just do not care about the disturbances....go on doing it....go on

with the Name and Form of Swami....May be, you can try Namasmarana

(chanting the Name aloud rather than internal Namasmarana or

thoughtless Dhyana)...because chanting the Name aloud will keep

useless thoughts away. The sound produced by the Name will keep our

mind concentrated on Lord...It is much easier to concentrate by

chanting the Name than silent meditation....

 

I chant "Om Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Ramaya Namaha..."

 

Go ahead, sister, with faith in our GOD, the MASTER! Swami is your

PERSONAL Guru. He would teach you all the techniques and help and

guide you....Within a month, or even much before that...Swami will

grace you with bliss...It is a fact beyond doubt!

 

All the very best!

 

Swami is with you, in you.

 

JAI SAIRAM

Pardha

 

----------

 

mrao

Cc: tmsrao05

Fri Apr 8, 2005 5:14am

Re: [saibabanews] Guide me

 

Sairam Sister Akila,

 

Jyoti Meditation - A Quote from Sathya Sai Baba

 

"As regards the technique of meditation, different teachers and

trainers

give different forms of advice. But I shall give you now the most

universal

and the most effective form. This is the very first step in spiritual

discipline. At first, set a few minutes every day for meditation, and

extend the time as you feel the bliss that you get.

 

 

"Let it be in the hours before dawn.This is preferable because the

body is

refreshed after sleep, and the dealings of daytime will not yet have

impinged on you. Have a lamp or a candle before you with an open,

steady,

and straight flame. Sit in front of the candle in the lotus posture

or any

other comfortable sitting position. Look on the flame steadily for

some

time, and closing your eyes try to feel the flame inside you between

your

eyebrows. Let it slide down into the lotus of your heart,

illuminating the

path. When it enters the heart, imagine that the petals of the lotus

open

out by one, bathing every thought, feeling, and emotion in the light

and so

removing darkness from them. There is no space for darkness to hide.

The

light of the flame becomes wider and brighter. Let it pervade your

limbs.

Now those limbs can never indulge in dark, suspicious, and wicked

activities; they have become instruments of light and love. As the

light

reaches up to the tongue, falsehood vanishes from it. Let it rise up

to the

eyes and the ears and destroy all the dark desires that infest them

and

which lead you to perverse sights and childish conversation. Let

your head

be surcharged with light and all wicked thoughts will flee therefrom.

Imagine that the light is in you more and more intensely. Let it

shine all

around you and let it spread from you in ever widening circles,

taking in

your loved ones, your kith and kin, your friends and companions, your

enemies and rivals, strangers, all living beings, the entire world.

 

 

"Since the light illumines all the senses every day so deeply and so

systematically, a time will soon come when you can no more relish

dark and

evil sights, yearn for dark and sinister tales, crave for base,

harmful,

deadening toxic food and drink, handle dirty demeaning things,

approach

places of ill-fame and injury, or frame evil designs against anyone

at any

time. Stay on in that thrill of witnessing the light everywhere. If

you are

adoring God in any form now, try to visualize that form in the

all-pervasive light. For Light is God; God is Light.

 

 

"Practice this meditation as I have advised regularly every day. At

other

times repeat the name of God (any Name fragrant with any of His many

Majesties), always taking care to be conscious of His might, mercy,

and

munificence."

 

 

Sathya Sai Speaks, volume ten, last few pages in that chapter.

(American

Version is pages 348-350)

 

Swami said that doubts are passing clouds and often come when we have

difficulties. Difficulties are good for us. Troubles are for our own

good.

Donít get worried or bothered by these difficulties. At times, there

is

depression from disappointment. Think of difficulties as a gift from

God

and you will not have depression.

 

 

"A bar of iron sinks in water; but beat it into a hollow vessel

and it will float merrily and even carry some weight. So too,

man's mind sinks easily in the sea of senses; beat it hollow,

hammering it with the Name of the Lord. It will float, safely,

on a sea of troubles.

 

 

Do not be like gramophone records singing someone else's song,

ignorant of the genuine thrill of music. Sing from your own

experience the Glory and Grace of the Lord." --BABA

 

---

 

Kind Regards,

T.M.S. Rao

 

 

 

 

 

 

saibabanews, savithri c <savi_13ind>

wrote:

> Sai Ram Brothers & sisters

>

I would like to do meditation..........

[Guest guest]

Sai Ram

 

There is a simple technique I use that work most of the times. Imagine that the

object of your distraction is a cloud or a group of clouds in the sky. Look at

them and observe how they come and they disappear, until that imaginary sky in

your mind is totally clear. If some other thought or noise comes back to

distract you again, apply the same visualization - It is just an act of

accepting the thought, paying it the required attention to finally let it go.

If you try to fight against the object and put some resistance to its

appearance, you may end up putting all your attention on the source of

distraction rather than in your meditation.

 

Peace and plenty

 

Francisco M. Salazar

 

 

-

savithri c

[saibabanews] Guide me

Sai Ram Brothers & sisters

Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Angel_44 [not stored]