Can you help me?

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Beloved sisters and brothers in Swamiji,

 

Here I am to ask you for your comments about a personal matter.

 

Maybe I should have kept it in myself, praying to Swami´s Light in my soul in

order to catch a glimpse of the answer that I need, but my heart told me:

They are your spiritual family, your sathsang. Why fear if they are here?

 

At the Divine Lotus Feet I tell you that:

 

I am a Sai Devotee very active in Swami´s Organization, mainly in Swami´s Words;

and since I have gotten so many dreams, visions, leelas, experiences with Him, I

have no doubt that my Dear Guru Bhaghavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba is GOD Himself, in

the Majesty of His Omnipresence, Omnipotence, Omniscience.

 

It occurs that, after deciding to live a spiritual life (oh, better late than

never) I was so happy for the wonderful things I was living with Swami. He has

seen the mysery I had come through about Maya stuffs and, for His Mercy, He has

addopted me. He cures my wounds, feeds me, gives me the Milk of His Darshan...

It is a Love Affair!!! My Beloved Husband makes me so many surprises, pampers

my Heart with His warmth, says that He Loves me with His touchable presence and

makes me feel in constant bliss.

 

But sometimes... because of the weakness that we human beings tend to feel... I

felt loneliness. I felt like speaking and listening to a person about some

crisis that were bothering me.

 

And cutting some details, I found a Sai Devotee that were the Premaswaroopa

itself. I used to expose and to hear those Divine Swami´s Words and

Orientations..

 

and all of a sudden... I felt that I was in love for that soul.

 

Now I feel ashamed to tell it to you all, because it is supposed that a good

spiritual aspirant does not have time or mind to such distractions of personal

love. But I am so baby. I am not a jnani. Truly I call myself a bhakta, but I

honestly know that not even a bhakta I am deep inside. So many things to

realize to be a Swami ´s Bhakta! And I felt in love for that soul...

 

And I ever cried for so much pain to love too much, I ever laughed to see the

big Leela my Lord has sent me. And it seemed my spirit was shaking in a

liquefier... That thunderstorm of feeling used to make me stare astonished at

Swami´s pic and ask Him: What do you mean, Dad?

 

I saw in the blue of the sky the very skin of Lord Krishna... the stars each one

were Lord Shiva´s shining eyes just taking care of everything... Everything

became brighter... happier... profound... And the other person... Used to say

that was feeling the same. We felt as if we were son and daughter of the only

King of all Earth, and this rich and powerful King was taking our breath away

giving so many treasures to us so that we couldn´t even hold it all...

 

And one day...

 

The soul said that our love is (was) a childish thing. That there is no time to

lose in personal love; (after stealing all the sweetness of my child´s heart)

that it was only... an illusion; That Swami neither does not allow

intercultural marriage nor would never bless a union where the woman is elder

than the man...

 

I thought to myself ( asking to Swami, for sure...)... Hey... Aren´t we the

ATMAN? Isn´t space, time, body and culture only mere characteristics of the

cosmic drama´s scenery? Isn´t the most important thing of the world (maybe the

ONLY one) the LOVE? Isn´t the feeling of Divine Love a Grace that we cannot

command, hence come from God Himself?

 

When I have realized that i am not this body here, the devotee (that is a so

fair and dedicated devotee) insists that anyway by now WE ARE THIS BODY AND

Swami would never allow our approach. Because we are from different cultures

(east and west) ! I said to the soul: My culture is my Swami. I do not feel

closer to my neighbor because of the same country. I feel closer to Sai

Devotees. Sai Devotees have the same culture. Swami is our way, our Truth and

our life. Everything else is temporary.

 

And now.. I am here ... My baby heart still has pain and joy at the same time.

Poesy and music, longing and dreaming about my twin-soul...my consort. The

most pure Love a human being could ever feel for another human being. We have

never looked physically to each other´s eyes. But at the same time... How many

times those black eyes were my Cosmic ocean, and there I saw Swami!

 

Oh, Lord! Into those eyes I saw Two portals revealing Your Glory!!

 

That´s it, brothers. I repeat my shame in sharing this personal matter with you,

but I am so alone, I would so much to hear words filled of Divine Love to help

me to clarify my thoughts... Thank you for your attention! Swami bless all

Earth, Swami bless you,who are reading my heart at this moment. Jaya Sathya

Sai!!!

"But if you love and must needs have desires,

let these be your desires:

To melt and be like a running brook

that sings its melody to the night.

To know the pain of too much tenderness.

To be wounded by your own understanding of love;

And to bleed willingly and joyfully.

To wake at dawn with a winged heart and give thanks for another day of loving;

To rest at the noon hour and meditate love's ecstasy;

To return home at eventide with gratitude;

And then to sleep with a prayer for the beloved in your heart

and a song of praise upon your lips."

 

 

 

 

Better first dates. More second dates. Personals

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Meenakshi Chintapalli <mkchintapalli

Tue Apr 5, 2005 0:09am

Re: [saibabanews] Can you help me?

 

Sai Ram to you dear Sai Devotee. Once you realize the armic

awareness, the physical love or attraction ceases, even between

the duly wedded couples. As long as the heart is throbbing for

another soul in communion through holy matrimony, it is nothing

but "Moha" or "l;ust or "infatuation" or intense desire for the

physical touch and proximity. A Swami says "love Gives and

frogives". It is unconditional and not related to any feelings,

other than pure love. Once you see Swami in others, the physical

attraction ends and only true craze for Swami's Darshan, Sparshan

Sambhashan exists. Nothing else matters. Celibacy becomes the rule

as you can not establish any other relationship other than heavenly

surrender.

It is much of a distoted picture that is given when describing the

love of Gopikas and Raadha fro Krishna. It i sthe example of ANANYA

BHAKTI like a "DHAARA" or a stream. Krishna was the YOGESHWARA.

Nothing touche dhis heart other than pure love. Swami is the same

way. If we are in true devotion with Swami an dfolllow his

teachings, there shall be no distractions.

 

SO my friend, Eka Atma Bhava means no other feeling than Love,

Sympathy and empathy. It leads to Samadarshana. No ill feelings no

good feelings.

 

"`" Sarva Bhootastha Maatmaanaam,Sarva Bhootani Chaatmani,

EEkshathe Yoga yukthaatma Sarvatra Samadarshana"

 

Bhagavadgita,hymn 29, 6th chapter.

" Asamshayam Mahabhavo,Mano Durnigraham Chalam

Abhyaasenatu Kounteya, Vairagyenacha Grihyate"

Bhagavadgita,

hymn36, Chapter 6

 

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"pidatala gopi krishna" <Gopipidatala

Mon Apr 4, 2005 10:45pm

Re: [saibabanews] Can you help me?

 

Dear ...

Sai Ram. I have just read ur mail and normally i do not reply but

since there is an instance such as yours in my life time experience

with swami i would like to narrate this to you and the members.

 

I am a part of the Hyderabad Youth group of the Sai Organisation and

the responsibility of looking after the needs, welfare , well being

of the group was bestowed upon by Bhagawan right from the early days

of the formation of the group.

 

It so happenned that one day when we were in the interview room soon

after my marriage with a host of VIPS ( senior adminstrators, Judges

etc of Sri Prasanthi Society) Swami who was serioulsy advising the

members of the society on the activity front, turned towards me at

180 degrees in his swivel simhasan and said that i was a bad leader.

I was zapped and astonished too. Such a remark was a not easy one to

digest ... that too before all elders. I pleaded ignorance. Then

Swami said " why did you not advice that boy that it is wrong to

have such thoughts ? I said what thoughts ? A boy in your group

intends to get married to a girl elder to him by two years!!! It is

wrong. Then Swami went on saying that " when I talk of Unity of

religions and regions , people take it that i promote it in terms of

Inter caste , inter religion and inter region marriage . This is

wrong. There is always the culture shock . Even if you are devotees

of sai, there is a culture shock... So, talk to the boy and dissuade

him to take such a step. He not only gets a bad name for himself but

for Sai too. People will start talking Oh! this is what happens in

Sai Organisation and I get a bad name for an action of someone's

else. I am ready to accept this ... but i dont want the boy to get a

bad name . You do ur role perfectly... Keep a check on these ... i

Pleaded with Swami ... Swami... I told them ... i cannot invlove in

their perosnal matter... Swami very sternly said " You should " It

is the reputation of the orgn.

 

WEll this is the feelings of the Lord. YOu have the answer. ... Sai

Ram.

 

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"" <rjmisra1

Mon Apr 4, 2005 9:18pm

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My Dear Sai-sister,my heart goes out to you. You are an aspiring

devotee and you have to be strong.These distractions will come to

you, but you have to be stong and do the right thing.This might be

the ultimate test that swami himself is putting before you. He wants

to see if u will be a slave to the senses.You seem to be a wonderful

and honest person.

I admire you bravery by coming out in the open with this.Sometimes

this loneliness maybe that you are longing for swami himself.Listen

to bhajans everyday in your car, house and sing also.Do naam smaran

(repeat his name all day )Meditation.

Watch a dvd of Swami.In other words use all your spare time to keep

swami in your thoughts.Talk to him,put your weakness at his lotus

feet.

Dearest sister,do not fall into the trap of maya. You are much more

intelligent than that.Raise above wordly attatchment.Put Bhagwan

first.You can do it.I can tell that you are truly a devotee who does

not want to do wrong.That's the first good sign.Keep Bhagwan's name

on you lips day and night.

My prayers are with u.

Loka Samaasta Sukhino Bhavantu.

Jai sairam

Raynu

 

 

 

 

saibabanews, Jai Sai Ram <jayasathyasai>

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> Beloved sisters and brothers in Swamiji,

> Here I am to ask you for your comments about a personal matter.

...........

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Dear Sai friend,

 

I have also undergone a similar experience in my life.It occurs for our

good.From that experience we should realize that we have to transcend the

physical body.Physical and emotional love may seem good at the beginning but

has to end sometime and is not always blissful.But this divine love will

protect you all the while.Such experiences/obstacles should be taken as

stepping stones to reach the full glory of his splendor.

Sometimes HIS Maya is so overwhelming that he puts us through these tests.We

should not succumb to this seemingly real Maya.

I have undergone a similar experience in my life and I am overcoming it.

The temptations will be strong and prevent us from concentrating on our daily activities.

Think of it this way.Human love is selfish.We love somebody usually to

experience happiness ourselves.

We can devote that energy that we are wasting (having silly thoughts and

attractions) towards doing something altruistic .Focus every moment as

divine,say a mantra or namasmarana constantly and live in the present.Think of

your parents or somebody who has been your mentor and think in what ways you

can convert that energy to a positive one and focus on making your family and

society happier.

Sometimes we do have to sacrifice somethings in life.But later down that road

that sacrifice will yield fulfillment and help us find divinity.

Dear friend do not ever feel ashamed of it.By doing namasmarana a, meditation

and sevice we will reach a different frame(plane) of thinking and we will not

even bother about what others think of us.

 

You are not alone when you experience such feelings.I think most of us undergo

something like in at some point in our life because the force with which the

lord's maya attracts us seems sometimes more powerful than than His true Bliss

itself and it is just a test that we have to overcome to take a step further in

acheiving divinity.

 

Om Jai Shri Ram.

 

RegardsJai Sai Ram <jayasathyasai > wrote:

Beloved sisters and brothers in Swamiji..........

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Dear Brother

I think that we come to this world to become one with God (Baba). But in

order to become one with Him we have to detach from everything and

everybody, to cut those wordly ties that bind us and cause us to come back

again. And in order to detach we need to accept whatever we live without

guilt, shame as coming from His guidence and His will. We need to accept all

the emotions which another person provoques in us as being mirror of our

soul and the twin-soul is a very perfect mirror for this if you understand

this processus. It means you do your work of detachement from her by seeing

Baba and only Baba in her and accepting all emotions you live with Baba in

her. And without God s will you would not be put in that situation and even

you would never meet her. And when your work is done, only then you can

offer your pure and free heart to Baba and you become a free soul able to

love everybody in detached way. This is a long processus and in order to be

succesfull we need to accept all emotions we go through.

Barbara

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Sister Meenakhsi is absolutely correct when atma bhava arises then pure love

dwells,there will be spiritual love no ill feelings but equal mindedness where

there is no hatred nor any ill feelings. Now some incidents which I have noted

when I was in Sai organisation in India and it worth mentioning ----(hope we

all get the picture )

 

I dont want to disclose the name as he is in Parthi now but anyway when active

grama seva was implemented devotees of that province took it with great

gutso.Devotees use to go to the villages with limited cars mostly crammed up

with gents and ladies in one car(10 people).

 

All with good intentions anyway when this renouned office bearer was summoned in

the interview room by Swami ,as he thought Swami will praise him for this

stupendous task instead he was reprimanded about the discipline of the

organisation.Swami told him that this not the way to do seva where there is no

dicipline among ladies and gents(all in one car huddled up)(please note I

dind't give in details as some might questions why this discriminations but on

spiritual point some will pick up the context)

 

Another incident which took place in Parthi again I dont want to mention any

names and he was was a great Bhajan composer.Now in his early days Swami

blessed him with a flat in Parth and quite often Swami use to mention his

name.He was a great person in Parthi and everyone use to respect him as he was

so close to Swami--- now this person fell for a lady(widow)who use to live in

the ashram later this person was not allowed to enter the ashram-

 

So you see Swami is very strict about His organisation and He wants His office

bearers to maintain this stictness and discipline>He is very hard task master

same thing, He mentioned to Hislop that anyone fails to maintain discipline in

the organisation then he must be removed from the organisation.As Brother Gopi

Krishna mentioned who is in the youth group that how He is so concerned about

the reputation of the Sai organisation.

 

We all have desires but we must control ourselves when we are attached to His

organisation ,and if we fail then it becomes different as this opportunity will

not come again- As Noble laaureate from England Sir George Trevellyan ( who past

away -devotee of Swami) said that whoever hold this light(Sai org) will be saved

..So hold on -----(let all our temptations melt at His lotus feet)

 

Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavanthu

 

Soumendra

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In Sai's Love

AdrianaJai Sai Ram <jayasathyasai > wrote:

Beloved sisters and brothers in Swamiji..........

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Sai Hridayam Sarbtra Prakasam

Prema Hridayam Sarbatra Mohitam

Brahmya Hridayam Sarbottoma Santham

Prema Hridayam Sarbtram Suswagatam

 

The supreme heart of Lord Sai everywhere exists. The heart that filled with

love always one wonder. The supreme heart of Brahman is always peaceful. I

welcome that supreme heart filled with prema inside that me